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The OFFICIAL 2006 Boston Red Sox Thread (1 Viewer)
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Insoxicated
Good Value on the Chi Sox there.....
bialczabub
Lord of the Flies
you're absolutely correct. I'll fix my post.
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Hinske trade struck
Blue Jays unload lefthanded bat
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | August 17, 2006
Not one to complain, David Ortiz yesterday afternoon put words to a sentiment widely held in the Red Sox clubhouse.
``We need help," he said. ``It's getting late."
Perhaps Ortiz already had an inkling of what was coming, because last night the Sox struck a waiver deal with the Toronto Blue Jays for Eric Hinske, who fits the profile of the type of player Boston was seeking: a lefthanded hitter who can play both corner infield positions as well as the outfield. The move comes right before this weekend's five-game series against the Yankees, a team against which he has fared well this season, batting .368 (7 for 19) with two home runs and five RBIs.
The deal, because it involves an outlay of more than $1 million, still requires approval from Major League Baseball. The Sox are expected to send a low-to-mid-level prospect to the Blue Jays.
Hinske, the American League's Rookie of the Year in 2002, when he hit 24 home runs and knocked in 84 runs while batting .279, signed a five-year deal worth $14.75 million the following year but had devolved into a platoon player.
The Blue Jays, looking to get out from under his contract, agreed to pay $2.8125 million, half of the salary due him next year. The Sox apparently agreed to pay the roughly $1.4 million still owed Hinske for this season.
Hinske is expected to start a couple of times a week, in place of Kevin Youkilis or Mike Lowell, and also becomes the team's primary lefthanded pinch hitter off the bench.
Hinske was pulled from the Blue Jays' starting lineup last night minutes before their game in St. Petersburg, Fla., but told Toronto reporters after the game he was just awaiting word on his fate.
Hinske, 29, began the season as part of a right-field platoon with Alex Rios and hit .323 (10 for 31) in April, though none of his hits went for extra bases. With Rios emerging as a star, Hinske gradually lost playing time. He has appeared in just nine games this month, going 4 for 24 (.167). Overall, he brings a .264 average with 12 home runs and 29 RBIs.
His appeal to the Sox comes in his at-bats against righthanded pitchers. He has a .376 on-base percentage and .575 slugging percentage against righthanders, which suggests there will be games when Sox manager Terry Francona uses him to hit late for shortstop Alex Gonzalez.
The Sox had no official comment on the deal, but there was rampant speculation among players that Hinske was headed here. The team has had a lopsided roster of late, employing 13 pitchers, leaving Francona with just three players on his bench -- a backup catcher, backup infielder Alex Cora, and backup outfielder Gabe Kapler.
Nick Cafardo of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
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Blue Jays unload lefthanded bat
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | August 17, 2006
Not one to complain, David Ortiz yesterday afternoon put words to a sentiment widely held in the Red Sox clubhouse.
``We need help," he said. ``It's getting late."
Perhaps Ortiz already had an inkling of what was coming, because last night the Sox struck a waiver deal with the Toronto Blue Jays for Eric Hinske, who fits the profile of the type of player Boston was seeking: a lefthanded hitter who can play both corner infield positions as well as the outfield. The move comes right before this weekend's five-game series against the Yankees, a team against which he has fared well this season, batting .368 (7 for 19) with two home runs and five RBIs.
The deal, because it involves an outlay of more than $1 million, still requires approval from Major League Baseball. The Sox are expected to send a low-to-mid-level prospect to the Blue Jays.
Hinske, the American League's Rookie of the Year in 2002, when he hit 24 home runs and knocked in 84 runs while batting .279, signed a five-year deal worth $14.75 million the following year but had devolved into a platoon player.
The Blue Jays, looking to get out from under his contract, agreed to pay $2.8125 million, half of the salary due him next year. The Sox apparently agreed to pay the roughly $1.4 million still owed Hinske for this season.
Hinske is expected to start a couple of times a week, in place of Kevin Youkilis or Mike Lowell, and also becomes the team's primary lefthanded pinch hitter off the bench.
Hinske was pulled from the Blue Jays' starting lineup last night minutes before their game in St. Petersburg, Fla., but told Toronto reporters after the game he was just awaiting word on his fate.
Hinske, 29, began the season as part of a right-field platoon with Alex Rios and hit .323 (10 for 31) in April, though none of his hits went for extra bases. With Rios emerging as a star, Hinske gradually lost playing time. He has appeared in just nine games this month, going 4 for 24 (.167). Overall, he brings a .264 average with 12 home runs and 29 RBIs.
His appeal to the Sox comes in his at-bats against righthanded pitchers. He has a .376 on-base percentage and .575 slugging percentage against righthanders, which suggests there will be games when Sox manager Terry Francona uses him to hit late for shortstop Alex Gonzalez.
The Sox had no official comment on the deal, but there was rampant speculation among players that Hinske was headed here. The team has had a lopsided roster of late, employing 13 pitchers, leaving Francona with just three players on his bench -- a backup catcher, backup infielder Alex Cora, and backup outfielder Gabe Kapler.
Nick Cafardo of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
© Copyright 2006 Globe Newspaper Company.
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Former NU star Peña is added to the mix
First baseman left Yankees' system
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | August 17, 2006
The Red Sox, who have been casting about for a lefthanded hitter for some time, last night came to terms on a deal with Carlos Peña, the Haverhill native and former Northeastern star who has spent the summer in the minor leagues.
Peña, who is expected to report today to Triple A Pawtucket, was released by Detroit in March and signed with the Yankees April 15. Peña was leading the Columbus Clippers, the Yankees' Triple A affiliate, in home runs (19) and RBIs (66) while batting .260. But yesterday, Pena exercised a clause in his contract that allowed him to ask for his release to pursue a major league deal.
The club last night would not confirm the deal.
Peña, a first-round choice by the Texas Rangers out of Northeastern in 1998, is joining his fifth organization, having also played for the Athletics and Tigers before signing with the Yankees for $1.25 million, with an additional $500,000 in incentives.
The Sox passed on Peña this spring, electing to sign Hee-Seop Choi, who has been a bust in Pawtucket, hitting just .207 in 66 games while spending a large chunk of the season on the disabled list. Choi was placed back on the DL with a strained back yesterday by the PawSox.
As recently as 2004, Peña hit 27 home runs and drove in 82 runs for the Tigers and appeared on the verge of fulfilling his considerable promise. But last season, he took another step backward, batting just .235 with 18 home runs and 44 RBIs, striking out 95 times in 260 at-bats, and was sent down to Toledo.
A cautious Felipe Peña, Carlos's father, was reluctant to speak about the deal until it became official. ``I don't know any details of the deal," he said. ``We're really, truly very happy that he's going to be heading back to Boston."
First baseman left Yankees' system
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff | August 17, 2006
The Red Sox, who have been casting about for a lefthanded hitter for some time, last night came to terms on a deal with Carlos Peña, the Haverhill native and former Northeastern star who has spent the summer in the minor leagues.
Peña, who is expected to report today to Triple A Pawtucket, was released by Detroit in March and signed with the Yankees April 15. Peña was leading the Columbus Clippers, the Yankees' Triple A affiliate, in home runs (19) and RBIs (66) while batting .260. But yesterday, Pena exercised a clause in his contract that allowed him to ask for his release to pursue a major league deal.
The club last night would not confirm the deal.
Peña, a first-round choice by the Texas Rangers out of Northeastern in 1998, is joining his fifth organization, having also played for the Athletics and Tigers before signing with the Yankees for $1.25 million, with an additional $500,000 in incentives.
The Sox passed on Peña this spring, electing to sign Hee-Seop Choi, who has been a bust in Pawtucket, hitting just .207 in 66 games while spending a large chunk of the season on the disabled list. Choi was placed back on the DL with a strained back yesterday by the PawSox.
As recently as 2004, Peña hit 27 home runs and drove in 82 runs for the Tigers and appeared on the verge of fulfilling his considerable promise. But last season, he took another step backward, batting just .235 with 18 home runs and 44 RBIs, striking out 95 times in 260 at-bats, and was sent down to Toledo.
A cautious Felipe Peña, Carlos's father, was reluctant to speak about the deal until it became official. ``I don't know any details of the deal," he said. ``We're really, truly very happy that he's going to be heading back to Boston."
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Footballguy
i have since softened that stance. i still think we take 3-5. but we shall see.anyone think they'll stick hinske in right for any of these 5 games?
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Footballguy
this could be key
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Footballguy
Wright (L, 9-7) 3.0 2 5 5 4 2 1 4.54
Villone 2.0 3 2 2 1 4 1 2.43
Dotel 0.2 3 3 2 0 1 0 18.00
Myers 2.1 1 2 0 0 3 1 2.57
Bruney 1.0 0 0 0 1 3 0 0.00
Pitches-strikes: Wright 75-39, Villone 42-26, Dotel 22-15, Myers 31-21, Bruney 17-11.
i especially like the 2+ by myers. although villone threw more pitches.
should be a fun series.
Villone 2.0 3 2 2 1 4 1 2.43
Dotel 0.2 3 3 2 0 1 0 18.00
Myers 2.1 1 2 0 0 3 1 2.57
Bruney 1.0 0 0 0 1 3 0 0.00
Pitches-strikes: Wright 75-39, Villone 42-26, Dotel 22-15, Myers 31-21, Bruney 17-11.
i especially like the 2+ by myers. although villone threw more pitches.
should be a fun series.
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Michael Brown
Footballguy
Yeah, I really didn't get using our two most reliable relievers in a blowout game for so long. Myers hasn't pitched much lately, but 31 pitches is too much. Especially with fat boy pitching the 2nd game tomorrow. Yanks really MUST win game 1 and get length from Wang or else you can pencil in 3-2 Boston for the series (if not 4-1).
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[leecorso]Not so fast![/leecorso]Ya haven't watched our pitching/offense lately have ya?
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Footballguy
david wells is not pitching tomorrow...
wilked
Footballguy
"You set em up, I...."
HellToupee
Footballguy
Todays deals in Boston sports
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ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
They may need him to pitch
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Footballguy
another game tonight!
Alias
Footballguy
3 for 4 with a run
Righetti
Footballguy
agreedBUMP for Papelbon.......
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Footballguy
f'n bullpen
bostonfred
Footballguy
This pitching staff is in a bad way right now.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
MAN.... I wish I had some big coin on the overs in these games!
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Michael Brown
Footballguy
How did I not realize what I was saying?!?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Someone posted this on a SAWX MB. Do you Boston fans agree with him?
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
True frontrunner. Waited until late August to post this? Why not do it in June?
ThisGuy
Ignored by Nipsey
Probably because they were in first in June.Bottom line is: The Red Sox had every opportunity to put the Yanks away in May and June when Matsui and Sheffield were injured. They couldn't shake them and made no moves to pull away. If you're a Sox fan, you better hope Theo and Gang are right about their young arms because they did everything in their power to protect them. Lester, Delcarmen, and Hansen were abused this weekend and Papelbon was about 3 feet from suffering the same fate with a Giambi blast to the track.
Reaper
Footballguy
"But I say the 2004 ALCS turned around when Pedro put Matsui on his fanny."
I have said this since that day and agree 110%.... From then on the Yankees were timid at the plate as a hole and Matsui was done.
And as a Yankee fan what pisses me off more than anything is the fact that the Yankees rarely pitch inside or knock player down while the Yankee players get thrown at all the time from chumps looking to take a shot.
I have said this since that day and agree 110%.... From then on the Yankees were timid at the plate as a hole and Matsui was done.
And as a Yankee fan what pisses me off more than anything is the fact that the Yankees rarely pitch inside or knock player down while the Yankee players get thrown at all the time from chumps looking to take a shot.
Reaper
Footballguy
As a Yankee fan, i think that Sox fan is a Complete Buffoon...... Except for the turning point of the 04 playoffs - I agree it was knocking down Matsui and pitching inside.
But, Injuries happen - One thing about the Yankees teams that won it all, for the most part they stayed Healthy and didn't even need late season salary deals.... Health to your core players is vital, especially the pitchers.
I think the Sox made good moves and only need to stay healthy and add some pitching, if not for this year then next.
But, Injuries happen - One thing about the Yankees teams that won it all, for the most part they stayed Healthy and didn't even need late season salary deals.... Health to your core players is vital, especially the pitchers.
I think the Sox made good moves and only need to stay healthy and add some pitching, if not for this year then next.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Very true , the Sox had their chance and didnt capitalize on itits funny how all is forgotten with Giambino in NY over the hgh/roids once he stated producing again 
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Insoxicated
Hey icon I seem to see you ignoring my question if you still want those tickets?I seem to recall you laughing at my assertion that the season would be over by Sept 16. Sorry I was a month off
I haven't been in this thread since you posted that. Yes. I'll gladly still take the tickets. What you want for them?
NY/NJMFDIVER
Footballguy
Giambi gets some deserved quarter because unless these high profile abusers, Bonds, Raffy, Big Mac, Sosa, Sheff, Landis, most of the NFL, he's actually shown both remorse and some willingness to admit culpability. He didn't specifically reference steriods, but he's the only guy active or recently active to not make an about face and face some music. Of course, if he wasn't hitting now, he'd face more heat, but performance does indeed go a long way in matters such as these.
arrow1
Footballguy
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
If you believe that, then you cannot think that Ortiz is worthy of the AL MVP...
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Footballguy
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Icon, when can you change this to the official 2006 New York Yankees magic number thread?
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I miss Wilked's nonsense in all the other baseball threads. Almost makes me sad that the Sux suck.
No seriously this is hilarious.
No seriously this is hilarious.
bialczabub
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Thanks for packing it in and no longer competing. Just terrible. 
Thanks for packing it in and no longer competing. Just terrible.
It's not their fault you guys blew a 10.5 game lead 
humans_being
Footballguy
Quit whining.Thanks for packing it in and no longer competing. Just terrible.
