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The Official Kicker (K) Thread (1 Viewer)


Meanwhile, Harrison Butker was not long ago considered one of the best there is. This year? He's actually worse than Badgley was, in terms of how many he's missed (3 FG and 4 PAT's). But, KC doesn't seem to be as quick to move on. Maybe they realize the grass isn't always greener, and at least they know what they have (as opposed to opening Door #2 and finding something worse).

Fascinating. It's almost as if some teams invest in and stick with solid kickers, and others just choose to stream kickers, just like fantasy.

Butker is in the second year of a 4-year, $25.6 M contract (highest paid kicker in the NFL). PHI, LAC, SEA, PIT, BUF, LV are other teams with kickers on veteran 4-year deals

Colts opened the year with Spencer Shrader on a 2-year, $2.5 M contract. When he was injured, they signed Badgley on a 1-year, $1.17 M deal, which appears to be the veterans' minimum, as that's how much Riley Patterson, Eddy Piniero and Zane Gonzalez are making. So Badgley misses a couple, just cut him, hold a try out, and sign another kicker at roughly $1 M/year.
Not sure if the bolded is sarcasm or not, but I think you're absolutely right. KC is more invested long-term in Butker... If he was on a one-year deal for the minimum, he'd probably be gone.
 
Was Grupe really that bad? Made 10 out of 11 FG's. I guess the downside was he missed three PAT's out of 21.

Still... The musical chairs at the PK position sort of feels like a "grass is greener" situation for some of these teams. Drop the guy you have in hopes that there is somebody else who's better (and currently unemployed)? Not to mention, half of these moves end up being teams acquiring retreads that someone else cut a week or two ago.

I'm really becoming an advocate for the TMPK position, particularly in larger (14-16) team leagues. I've spent way too much time (and FAAB $$) trying to acquire the next kicker to be signed (or re-signed). Feels like half of the league has switched kickers at some point this season. That never used to be a thing, from what I can remember. Maybe there's just not as many decent kickers as there are teams. Are kickers getting worse, expectations getting higher, or are they just more injury-prone these days? Or does the longer XP distance have something to do with it?
He was 18 for 26 on the season. Thats atrocious
Sorry... I meant to say Badgley, not Grupe. :doh:

But, that sort of makes my point.... Grupe is terrible for NOS. Meanwhile, Indy grabs Badgley when Schraeder goes down. Badgley wasn't great, but he wasn't terrible, either. Then, IND cuts Badgley and signs Grupe? I don't get it. But, obviously, there's more to the story than just those stats (or I would think they would have stuck with Badgley).

The other interesting piece is that there doesn't seem to be another position in the NFL that is so streak-dependent. Almost like basketball shooters or hitters in baseball (or even golfers).... When kickers are on, they're on. When they aren't, some of them can massively struggle. Probably because so much of what they do is mental compared to other NFL positions.

Nick Folk was cast aside several years ago as being washed up and done as an NFL kicker. Then someone (NE?) signed in out of desperation a couple of years ago. Now, he's one of the top kickers in the league, at least in terms of accuracy. He's missed one kick (out of 40+) all year.

Meanwhile, Harrison Butker was not long ago considered one of the best there is. This year? He's actually worse than Badgley was, in terms of how many he's missed (3 FG and 4 PAT's). But, KC doesn't seem to be as quick to move on. Maybe they realize the grass isn't always greener, and at least they know what they have (as opposed to opening Door #2 and finding something worse).
Sorry I misunderstood.

From what I gathered about Badgley he had a VERY weak league and they barely attempted FGs over 50 yds with him.
No worries... I'm the one who typed the wrong name. And that makes a lot of sense. In fact, that exact thought crossed my mind (if Badgley is relatively accurate, but still got cut, he must not have much of a leg). And, in today's NFL, where it seems like even the mediocre legs are easily making FG's from 55+, having a guy who makes you nervous at 50 is probably not going to cut it.
 
All but 1 of Butker's misses came in the first 6 games. I dont know if he was just not over an injury, but he's been his usual automatic self the last 6 games.
 
All but 1 of Butker's misses came in the first 6 games. I dont know if he was just not over an injury, but he's been his usual automatic self the last 6 games.
Agree.

Sitting in waivers.

An added bonus...if you're up big or down big come Sunday night you could drop him for a player on bye. Pearsall, SF D, Brian Robinson, etc.
 
I stayed with Aubrey, considered Fairbairn but he wasnt wasn’t a free agent(waivers) and I felt like it was getting too cute to drop Aubrey without being guaranteed fairbairn
It was definitely being cute. But I made it make sense. Houston attempts by far the most FGs in the league and Fairbairn had more points than Aubrey coming into the week in that league and he’d missed games.
 
Worth holding Aubrey through the bye? He has been kind of disappointing outside of week 2 tbh but I am hesitant to drop him
I definitely wouldn't drop him. He has week winning ability.

I cannot believe I had Aubrey for a week and dropped him for Fairbairn. What the **** was I thinking.
Wild move
Where were you when I asked in here if I should or not.
Right here buddy
 
Worth holding Aubrey through the bye? He has been kind of disappointing outside of week 2 tbh but I am hesitant to drop him
I definitely wouldn't drop him. He has week winning ability.

I cannot believe I had Aubrey for a week and dropped him for Fairbairn. What the **** was I thinking.
Wild move
Where were you when I asked in here if I should or not.
Right here buddy
Well wish I read it then that’s on me. Still have a strong team and the bye so hopefully won’t regret it other than staring at the 25 pointer for a couple of days lol.
 
I stayed with Aubrey, considered Fairbairn but he wasnt wasn’t a free agent(waivers) and I felt like it was getting too cute to drop Aubrey without being guaranteed fairbairn
It was definitely being cute. But I made it make sense. Houston attempts by far the most FGs in the league and Fairbairn had more points than Aubrey coming into the week in that league and he’d missed games.
I grabbed me Fairbairn and dropped Boswell. Make or Break week!
 
Cam Little has a pretty nice playoff schedule upcoming. Anything good for the DST is often good for the kicker. 15. Vs NYJ, 16. @ Den (nah), 17. @ Indy.
 
Just FYI if it was not mentioned but Piniero is expected back after the bye week, and he had been on a roll.

Will have two home games, and a dome game to finish the fantasy season.
Looking at picking up Pineiro after waivers run tonight. Any updates on his week 15 status?

Edit: looks like SF released Matt Gay from their practice squad today. Sounds like Pineiro is good to go!
 
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Just FYI if it was not mentioned but Piniero is expected back after the bye week, and he had been on a roll.

Will have two home games, and a dome game to finish the fantasy season.
Looking at picking up Pineiro after waivers run tonight. Any updates on his week 15 status?

Edit: looks like SF released Matt Gay from their practice squad today. Sounds like Pineiro is good to go!
Have Loop but picked up Eddy P also for the playoff run
 
For this week do you like Mervis (indoors vs Det), Pineiro vs Ten, or Loop @Cin?
For what it's worth this is how I attempt to calculate kickers. What's the weather like? Who they playing because if they are playing a team that scores points they will need tds not fgs. In your case I don't like Mervis, they need tds against Lions not fgs. Loop has been great, but Cinci scores points and can't stop anyone. Feels like a Ravens 5 TD no FG game. Pineiro against Titans feels safe. California weather good. You take the fgs when your playing a bad team. Having said all that who the heck knows. Ha ha
 
For this week do you like Mervis (indoors vs Det), Pineiro vs Ten, or Loop @Cin?
For what it's worth this is how I attempt to calculate kickers. What's the weather like? Who they playing because if they are playing a team that scores points they will need tds not fgs. In your case I don't like Mervis, they need tds against Lions not fgs. Loop has been great, but Cinci scores points and can't stop anyone. Feels like a Ravens 5 TD no FG game. Pineiro against Titans feels safe. California weather good. You take the fgs when your playing a bad team. Having said all that who the heck knows. Ha ha
I have the same general thoughts. My worry on Pineiro is coming off a hammy injury. I don't like that with these delicate kickers. I also have CMC and Purdy so that is a whole lot of eggs in that 9er basket.
 
For this week do you like Mervis (indoors vs Det), Pineiro vs Ten, or Loop @Cin?
For what it's worth this is how I attempt to calculate kickers. What's the weather like? Who they playing because if they are playing a team that scores points they will need tds not fgs. In your case I don't like Mervis, they need tds against Lions not fgs. Loop has been great, but Cinci scores points and can't stop anyone. Feels like a Ravens 5 TD no FG game. Pineiro against Titans feels safe. California weather good. You take the fgs when your playing a bad team. Having said all that who the heck knows. Ha ha
I have the same general thoughts. My worry on Pineiro is coming off a hammy injury. I don't like that with these delicate kickers. I also have CMC and Purdy so that is a whole lot of eggs in that 9er basket.
Niners drop a zero and you lose. My favorite. Ha ha
 
I'm the underdog, first round of the playoffs ... my opponent has both Stafford and Puka. Does it make sense to add and start Mevis here? to sortve negate his probable points he should score?

Options:

Mevis v DET
Patterson @ PIT
McPherson v BAL
Loop @ BAL
 
I'm the underdog, first round of the playoffs ... my opponent has both Stafford and Puka. Does it make sense to add and start Mevis here? to sortve negate his probable points he should score?

Options:

Mevis v DET
Patterson @ PIT
McPherson v BAL
Loop @ BAL
Was thinking the same with my opponent having Hurts, this theory doesn’t work if Stafford and Nacua are throwing and catching touchdowns and you only negate it with the XP.
 
For this week do you like Mervis (indoors vs Det), Pineiro vs Ten, or Loop @Cin?
For what it's worth this is how I attempt to calculate kickers. What's the weather like? Who they playing because if they are playing a team that scores points they will need tds not fgs. In your case I don't like Mervis, they need tds against Lions not fgs. Loop has been great, but Cinci scores points and can't stop anyone. Feels like a Ravens 5 TD no FG game. Pineiro against Titans feels safe. California weather good. You take the fgs when your playing a bad team. Having said all that who the heck knows. Ha ha
Agree with the thinking but Aubrey kicked 5 FG vs DET D last week. Of course for me, my only other choice for one team other than Mevis is Koo. Leaning Mevis.
 
I switched sides on Rams-Lions . Bates OUT. Mevis IN.

I'm not sure about FBG's #1 ranking on Mevis this week, but I'm always happy to scapegoat my horrible decisions to the pros when things don't work out. The points have been there of late for Bates, but he's still missing too many. More than anything, I can't trust Campbell to take the 45-yard field goal attempt on 4th & 7.

This usually ends up being the move that loses a playoff game instead of winning one, but if Vegas has the Rams favored in a high-scoring game, I guess it's logical. We'll see how it works out for him, Cotton.
 
I switched sides on Rams-Lions . Bates OUT. Mevis IN.

I'm not sure about FBG's #1 ranking on Mevis this week, but I'm always happy to scapegoat my horrible decisions to the pros when things don't work out. The points have been there of late for Bates, but he's still missing too many. More than anything, I can't trust Campbell to take the 45-yard field goal attempt on 4th & 7.

This usually ends up being the move that loses a playoff game instead of winning one, but if Vegas has the Rams favored in a high-scoring game, I guess it's logical. We'll see how it works out for him, Cotton.
I like this we can point to shirt on whatever staffer spends 10 minutes coming up with kicker rankings! I'm surprised the Rams are favored 5.5 last I looked. Worst case scenario is a 31-28 Detroit win.
 
Just FYI if it was not mentioned but Piniero is expected back after the bye week, and he had been on a roll.

Will have two home games, and a dome game to finish the fantasy season.
Looking at picking up Pineiro after waivers run tonight. Any updates on his week 15 status?

Edit: looks like SF released Matt Gay from their practice squad today. Sounds like Pineiro is good to go!
Went with Pineiro over Boswell for weeks 16/17
 
Just FYI if it was not mentioned but Piniero is expected back after the bye week, and he had been on a roll.

Will have two home games, and a dome game to finish the fantasy season.
Looking at picking up Pineiro after waivers run tonight. Any updates on his week 15 status?

Edit: looks like SF released Matt Gay from their practice squad today. Sounds like Pineiro is good to go!
Went with Pineiro over Boswell for weeks 16/17
I like Pinerio just worry about coming off a hammy but sounds like you have a bye?
 
Having 2nd thoughts on Bates this week. My other option is Mclaughlin…so not a steady choice. Just going against a D that gives up points to kickers vs one in LA that doesn’t. And if that Rams/Lions game turns into a track meet…may be a lot of going for it on 4th and 2 point attempts late in the game.
 
Just FYI if it was not mentioned but Piniero is expected back after the bye week, and he had been on a roll.

Will have two home games, and a dome game to finish the fantasy season.
Looking at picking up Pineiro after waivers run tonight. Any updates on his week 15 status?

Edit: looks like SF released Matt Gay from their practice squad today. Sounds like Pineiro is good to go!
Went with Pineiro over Boswell for weeks 16/17
I like Pinerio just worry about coming off a hammy but sounds like you have a bye?
Going Piniero myself.

One of the only decent non frigid games and SF should have plenty of scoring opportunities.
 

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