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The Official Kicker (K) Thread (4 Viewers)

Raiders K Sebastian Janikowski (back) is questionable for Week 1 against the Titans.

Janikowski was limited all week with a back injury but should be a go for Sunday's opener. The Raiders signed Giorgio Tavecchio to their practice squad as insurance in case Janikowski suffers a last-minute setback.

Source: Michael Gehlken on Twitter 

Sep 8 - 3:50 PM
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LionOfGosforth said:
Any word on Gano? Starter still for Panthers? I thought I had read somewhere he was on the roster bubble but didn't hear anything else.
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I don't know if I feel comfortable rostering a guy on a team with two kickers.  One miss from Gano and Rivera could let the other guy kick.

 
ZWK said:
Here is my kicker job security list, where the number is something like the probability that the kicker is the yearlong starter for his team, assuming no new injuries. (I posted something similar before the 2016 and 2014 seasons.)

0.98    Cairo Santos     KC
0.98    Adam Vinatieri     IND
0.98    Matt Prater     DET
0.98    Brandon McManus     DEN
0.98    Dan Bailey     DAL
0.98    Steve Hauschka     BUF
0.98    Justin Tucker     BAL
0.96    Mason Crosby     GB
0.95    Ryan Succop     TEN
0.95    Chris Boswell     PIT
0.95    Josh Lambo     LACH - CUT
0.95    Phil Dawson     ARI
0.94    Sebastian Janikowski     OAK - ???
0.94    Stephen Gostkowski     NE
0.94    Matt Bryant     ATL
0.92    Wil Lutz     NO
0.90    Dustin Hopkins     WAS
0.89    Robbie Gould     SF
0.88    Caleb Sturgis     PHI
0.88    Jason Myers     JAC
0.88    Nick Novak     HOU - CUT
0.87    Blair Walsh     SEA
0.87    Greg Zuerlein     LARM
0.85    Chandler Catanzaro     NYJ
0.85    Kai Forbath     MIN
0.80    Andrew Franks     MIA - CUT
0.75    Connor Barth     CHI
0.73    Graham Gano     CAR - ???
0.65    Aldrick Rosas     NYG
0.60    Jake Elliott     CIN - CUT
0.55    Zane Gonzalez     CLE
0.50    Roberto Aguayo     TB - CUT

The numbers are my guesses, after looking at relevant sources of information (depth charts, news stories, contracts, etc.).
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Lambo the biggest surprise so far. Looks like I underestimated the number of cuts, given that there have been 5 so far and my numbers add up to 4.2 total cuts for the entire season.

The distribution of cuts is roughly as expected. I expected 0.7 cuts among the guys rated 0.90 or higher (there has been 1), 1.0 cuts among the guys rated 0.81-0.89 (there have been 2), and 2.4 cuts among the guys rated 0.80 or lower (there have been 3).

 
Raiders placed K Sebastian Janikowski (back) on injured reserve.

It's a surprise after Janikowski practiced all week and was listed as questionable for Week 1. He'll now miss at least the first six games before being eligible to return. The Raiders promoted Giorgio Tavecchio from the practice squad to replace Janikowski.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
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Raiders K Sebastian Janikowski (I.R.) won't require surgery on his injured back.

Janikowski is out with a disc issue but could return in eight weeks, according to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport. Giorgio Tavecchio will handle the kicking duties during his absence.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
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Broncos signed K Brandon McManus to a three-year extension through 2020.

A restricted free agent last offseason, McManus had been playing on a one-year tender. Signed as Matt Prater's mid-season replacement in 2014, McManus has become the most accurate kicker in Broncos history, converting 82.9 percent of his field goal attempts. He's missed only two extra points, and is 8-of-15 beyond 50 yards. He turned 26 earlier this year.

Source: John Elway on Twitter 

Sep 11 - 2:45 PM
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Eagles K Caleb Sturgis will "miss several weeks with a quad strain in his plant leg."

It is unlikely the Eagles will burn a roster spot on a kicker if he is going to miss multiple games, so it is possible he is sent to injured reserve with the intent to bring him back later in the season. Philly will work out kickers this week.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Sep 11 - 12:55 PM
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Eagles placed K Caleb Sturgis (quad) on injured reserve.

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Sturgis will be a candidate for return, but he'll be out at least eight weeks. If Jake Elliott performs well in Sturgis' absence, the Eagles may not bother activating him. Sturgis was one of the league's better kickers in 2016, but the Eagles could end up with bigger I.R./return fish to fry.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Sep 12 - 1:17 PM
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Eagles signed K Jake Elliott.

Plucked off the Bengals' practice squad, Elliott will be filling in for Caleb Sturgis (quad, injured reserve) for at least eight weeks. He was the No. 153 overall pick of this year's draft. There's a non-zero percent chance the Eagles end up settling on Elliott as their kicker of the future.
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wikkidpissah said:
it's that time of year when a young man's thoughts turn from seabass to younghoes
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Best line I've seen on here in quite a while.

I usually only browse the kicker thread anonymously out of embarrassment, But I left a meeting and signed in on mobile handset just to respond to this comment it made me laugh so hard.

 
Panthers waived K Harrison Butker.

The Panthers had to drop him to make room for CB Ladarius Gunter, who was claimed off waivers from Green Bay on Wednesday. Butker made the initial 53-man roster but ultimately lost out to Graham Gano. There's a good chance he'll revert to Carolina's practice squad if he clears waivers.

Related: Panthers

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Sep 13 - 4:58 PM
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tombonneau said:
Grabbed him to replace Sturgis. If nothing else he'll be fun to root for. 
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As a italian American I decided to pick up the Italian stallion. This way if he sucks and is benched/released I can use the Kapernack strategy of playing the race card and calling the owners racist.

 
Tired of Koo already.

I need to grab a replacement at some point, so might as well be Folk or Parkey since they've both had their byes.  Which one is the better investment?

 
Are we assuming Janikowski comes back Week 8-9?  This Raiders kicker has looked good yet FBGs has him ranked 26th rest of season as if he's not kicking much longer.  

 
Gottabesweet said:
Are we assuming Janikowski comes back Week 8-9?  This Raiders kicker has looked good yet FBGs has him ranked 26th rest of season as if he's not kicking much longer.  
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As of right now I think he is supposed to be back around then. As an Italian American I'm not going to be a race traitor and ride this through with the Italian Stallion.

 
Weebs210 said:
As of right now I think he is supposed to be back around then. As an Italian American I'm not going to be a race traitor and ride this through with the Italian Stallion.
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Can they really replace this kid if he's doing real well?  They might leave SeaBass on IR

 
Thinking of dropping Koo like a dose of salts  across the board. It was fun while it lasted 

Prater now 12 in a row from 50 yards plus. He's on my wire, might go grab him, he's actually had very few field goal attempts so far, I think he's due a good week 

 
Weebs210 said:
As of right now I think he is supposed to be back around then. As an Italian American I'm not going to be a race traitor and ride this through with the Italian Stallion.
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Are we heading toward a point where teams just use their kicker slot to target ethnic fan niches? Italians get GT, Koreans get Koo, Armenians get Garo Yapremiam Jr., etc. And then when the Raiders cut Seabass, Poles switch their loyalty en masse to the Pats, since they have Gostkowski.

 
zftcg said:
Are we heading toward a point where teams just use their kicker slot to target ethnic fan niches? Italians get GT, Koreans get Koo, Armenians get Garo Yapremiam Jr., etc. And then when the Raiders cut Seabass, Poles switch their loyalty en masse to the Pats, since they have Gostkowski.
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Whatever happened to Martin grammatical?

 
What the heck, Aldrick Rosas is the #1 ranked K moving forward in the top 200??? He plays for the NYG...what the heck is a stall and kick team with a decent D? I don't get this ranking? Can someone enlighten us?

 
I'm just rolling with the Italian kicker.  Didn't expect 6 TDs and only 1 FG, but he still got me 9 points.  So random.  Just pick the kicker on a good offense.  Perhaps the Oakland offense is too good and I should be looking for a so-so decent offense.

 
greyhorse said:
I'm just rolling with the Italian kicker.  Didn't expect 6 TDs and only 1 FG, but he still got me 9 points.  So random.  Just pick the kicker on a good offense.  Perhaps the Oakland offense is too good and I should be looking for a so-so decent offense.
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I seem to remember seeing a statistical study on here years ago that basically showed the top 5 kickers after the first 4 weeks (or close to that) correlated very strongly with top kickers at the end of the year.

So I see the Tavecchio with a strong shot to finish as a top kicker. I fully expect them to keep Seabass on IR if Tavecchio continues to play well. If they cut him he would be claimed in a NY minute.

 
zftcg said:
Are we heading toward a point where teams just use their kicker slot to target ethnic fan niches? Italians get GT, Koreans get Koo, Armenians get Garo Yapremiam Jr., etc. And then when the Raiders cut Seabass, Poles switch their loyalty en masse to the Pats, since they have Gostkowski.
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It's been a rough time for us Hungarians since Gogolak retired...don't know which team to root for anymore.

 
tombonneau said:
I seem to remember seeing a statistical study on here years ago that basically showed the top 5 kickers after the first 4 weeks (or close to that) correlated very strongly with top kickers at the end of the year.

So I see the Tavecchio with a strong shot to finish as a top kicker. I fully expect them to keep Seabass on IR if Tavecchio continues to play well. If they cut him he would be claimed in a NY minute.
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I just picked up Tavecchio in another league off of FA. Cut Walsch free. Wondering about cutting Lutz for Tavecchio in another league where he is still available? I always liked the movie Rocky, the Italian Stallion.

 
Ridcully said:
It's been a rough time for us Hungarians since Gogolak retired...don't know which team to root for anymore.
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Could have cheered for the Pats when they had Zoltan Mesko as their punter. Maybe the Panthers since Mike Shula is their OC? (Don's parents were immigrants.) But really, it's all been downhill for the Magyars since Larry Csonka and Joe Namath -- excuse me, "Németh" -- retired.

(Tangent on Hungarian-American athletes: Was former pitcher Al "The Mad Hungarian" Hrabosky really Hungarian? I'm not one myself, but I did live there for three years, and that sounds like a Czech name if I ever heard one.)

 
tombonneau said:
I seem to remember seeing a statistical study on here years ago that basically showed the top 5 kickers after the first 4 weeks (or close to that) correlated very strongly with top kickers at the end of the year.

So I see the Tavecchio with a strong shot to finish as a top kicker. I fully expect them to keep Seabass on IR if Tavecchio continues to play well. If they cut him he would be claimed in a NY minute.
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Succop is mighty tempting to add and hold. My one concern is this week with Seattle albeit at home, not at SEA.

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Succop is mighty tempting to add and hold. My one concern is this week with Seattle albeit at home, not at SEA.
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Both Succop and Ghili were available in my league. I went with Succop based on his longer track record and guarantee of keeping the job.

Don't overthink kicker matchups. You have no idea how things will play out.

 
Dropped Lutz for the pious Italian in Oakland (e.g., can’t spell his name.) Becuse matchup & FFA allowed.

I’m an idiot.

 
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