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The ***OFFICIAL*** Washington, DC thread (1 Viewer)

Leaving aside artificial boundaries.........Overall, it's Ray Leonard and it's not even close, IMO. Dude was one of the most famous people in the world. Roots are here, and home base (obstensibly) was here while he was on top.

I see the Ovi argument, but I betcha even now - poll random people at a gas station in DMV and more would know who Leonard is than they would Ovi.

As for college hoops, whoever said Ewing by a mile is also off. Len Bias is damned close AND has the roots.
It wasn't me who said that, but I think you are letting your allegiance to MD get to you there. Between Ewing and Bias, only one can put the following in his college C.V.: national championship, Final Four MOP, Naismith player of the year, AP player of the year, and 3x first team All-American.

 
Leaving aside artificial boundaries.........Overall, it's Ray Leonard and it's not even close, IMO. Dude was one of the most famous people in the world. Roots are here, and home base (obstensibly) was here while he was on top.

I see the Ovi argument, but I betcha even now - poll random people at a gas station in DMV and more would know who Leonard is than they would Ovi.As for college hoops, whoever said Ewing by a mile is also off. Len Bias is damned close AND has the roots.
It wasn't me who said that, but I think you are letting your allegiance to MD get to you there. Between Ewing and Bias, only one can put the following in his college C.V.: national championship, Final Four MOP, Naismith player of the year, AP player of the year, and 3x first team All-American.
I get you. I was giving Bias' hometown weight more than most would have (Ewing was a vagabond). It has nothing to do with me being a Maryland fan, though. Hell, I played with/against and was friends with more of that era's Hoyas than I was the Terps.
 
Has Wes Unseld been mentioned yet?

Career Bullet, NBA Champ, HOF and then coached the Bullets later.

 
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Leaving aside artificial boundaries.........Overall, it's Ray Leonard and it's not even close, IMO. Dude was one of the most famous people in the world. Roots are here, and home base (obstensibly) was here while he was on top.

I see the Ovi argument, but I betcha even now - poll random people at a gas station in DMV and more would know who Leonard is than they would Ovi.As for college hoops, whoever said Ewing by a mile is also off. Len Bias is damned close AND has the roots.
It wasn't me who said that, but I think you are letting your allegiance to MD get to you there. Between Ewing and Bias, only one can put the following in his college C.V.: national championship, Final Four MOP, Naismith player of the year, AP player of the year, and 3x first team All-American.
I get you. I was giving Bias' hometown weight more than most would have (Ewing was a vagabond). It has nothing to do with me being a Maryland fan, though. Hell, I played with/against and was friends with more of that era's Hoyas than I was the Terps.
Fair enough. I thought the Terps' helmet in the avatar might suggest some allegiance there.

 
Leaving aside artificial boundaries.........Overall, it's Ray Leonard and it's not even close, IMO. Dude was one of the most famous people in the world. Roots are here, and home base (obstensibly) was here while he was on top.

I see the Ovi argument, but I betcha even now - poll random people at a gas station in DMV and more would know who Leonard is than they would Ovi.As for college hoops, whoever said Ewing by a mile is also off. Len Bias is damned close AND has the roots.
It wasn't me who said that, but I think you are letting your allegiance to MD get to you there. Between Ewing and Bias, only one can put the following in his college C.V.: national championship, Final Four MOP, Naismith player of the year, AP player of the year, and 3x first team All-American.
I get you. I was giving Bias' hometown weight more than most would have (Ewing was a vagabond). It has nothing to do with me being a Maryland fan, though. Hell, I played with/against and was friends with more of that era's Hoyas than I was the Terps.
It was me,that said Ewing was first "by a mile." I applied the same criteria as I did to the "best DC pro athlete" discussion. I included team accomplishments, because even though I hate evaluating players that way, that's what makes guys special to a city and the fans there. Bias was amazing but during his time Maryland never won the ACC regular season with him, won the tournament only once (his freshman year), and never advanced past the Sweet 16. When Ewing was at Georgetown going to Final Fours and winning Big East and NCAA titles they were a huge deal in the city.

 
I would say that Ovechkin is the best from the past 50 years even though his post-season resume isn't exactly stellar.One of 5 players to ever start a career with 30+ goals in his first ten seasons and what I would call a generational scorer meaning he is the best the sport had to offer for that span and while he clearly will never be confused with a Selke candidate(best defensive forward)he certainly has improved under Trotz this year.Post season speaks more to the team but it would be a nice feather in the cap to see them go farther with him around.Everyone always wants to compare him with Crosby and that just isn't fair because they play different positions and are asked to do two totally different things for each team.I will simply say both are great and leave it at that.

One that hasn't been mentioned yet but would be part of my top 5 is Allen Iverson.Best little man to ever play the sport IMO.

If I had to rank them I would go

1- Ovechkin

2- Ripken

3-Monk

4-Darrell Green

5A-Ewing

5B-Iverson

 
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I don't know who is the best, but Monk is my favorite.

Another category... all time blaze of glory single great performance that came out of nowhere before fading back into obscurity...

For that, I think Timmy Smith is the answer

 
Oh, and Riggens was pretty awesome too. Not enough longevity to really be in the running, but damn, he was my hero when I was a little kid.

 
I don't know who is the best, but Monk is my favorite.

Another category... all time blaze of glory single great performance that came out of nowhere before fading back into obscurity...

For that, I think Timmy Smith is the answer
Good call, but let's not forget Anthony Allen. Anyone remember him?

In the first 1987 scab game, Allen had eight catches for 255 yards and three touchdowns.
 
I don't know who is the best, but Monk is my favorite.

Another category... all time blaze of glory single great performance that came out of nowhere before fading back into obscurity...

For that, I think Timmy Smith is the answer
:lmao: That's a pretty specific category. Not sure anyone can be beat Timmy on that one.

John Druce would be a candidate. He scored 14 goals in 15 playoff games one postseason. He made the SI cover, which said, "The Druce is Loose". He didn't totally drop off the map, though, following that postseason performance. He had a nice season the next year with 22 goals.

 
I don't know who is the best, but Monk is my favorite.

Another category... all time blaze of glory single great performance that came out of nowhere before fading back into obscurity...

For that, I think Timmy Smith is the answer
:lmao: That's a pretty specific category. Not sure anyone can be beat Timmy on that one.

John Druce would be a candidate. He scored 14 goals in 15 playoff games one postseason. He made the SI cover, which said, "The Druce is Loose". He didn't totally drop off the map, though, following that postseason performance. He had a nice season the next year with 22 goals.
RGIII is quickly getting into this territory as well

 
I don't know who is the best, but Monk is my favorite.

Another category... all time blaze of glory single great performance that came out of nowhere before fading back into obscurity...

For that, I think Timmy Smith is the answer
:lmao: That's a pretty specific category. Not sure anyone can be beat Timmy on that one.

John Druce would be a candidate. He scored 14 goals in 15 playoff games one postseason. He made the SI cover, which said, "The Druce is Loose". He didn't totally drop off the map, though, following that postseason performance. He had a nice season the next year with 22 goals.
I suppose it depends on whether O's performances count during the Nats-less years, but Brady Anderson's completely clean, totally not at all suspicious, 50 homer season might also qualify.

 
Right around 8" down here in Fredericksburg.Light,fluffy and very easy to move.Had the snow blower and shovel both going and it took me about an hour to clear my driveway and sidewalk.

 
Snowing hard here (Leesburg), been going on for about 20-30 minutes, most of roads covered. Wondering if Loudoun will go 3 for 3 this week. (Praying not!!!)

ETA: Curious if super cold weather dgreen mentions will have an affect on scaredy cat closing Loudoun schools.

 
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Snowing hard here (Leesburg), been going on for about 20-30 minutes, most of roads covered. Wondering if Loudoun will go 3 for 3 this week. (Praying not!!!)

ETA: Curious if super cold weather dgreen mentions will have an affect on scaredy cat closing Loudoun schools.
And bam! its over.

 
Anyone here on the I.M.P. mailing list? Would be very obliged to receive a PM with tomorrow's Replacements presale code for the May 8 show at EchoStage

 
Looks like large chunks of the Potomac are frozen. I was driving over the Wilson Bridge this morning and it was clearly frozen up by downtown. Looked like some areas near National Harbor had some ice.

 
Is it me, or does is seem like every other day the Post is talking about pending historic cold coming? F this place in winter. This is no way to live.

 
So Tom, or anyone else: what's the word on this year's Caps team? I've only caught maybe 10-15 games but I watched all the games during the NBA All-Star break except one of the late ones, and they look incredible. What's changed under Trotz? As far as I can tell (which is not much) the improvement is not due to the contributions of any new personnel, but instead because they're getting career years from the guys who have been around forever- Ovie, Holtby, Alzner/Carlson (who I guess are thriving after being separated?) and especially Backstrom. Is there a tactical or other explanation that they layman would miss, or are they just buying into what Trotz is selling? Are the non-headliners contributing more than you'd expect? Is there a semi-decent chance of a playoff run?

 
Are they actually better than the last 3-4 years?
Sure looks like it to my untrained eye. Although it may just be that their best play of the season has coincided with the NBA All Star Break and the marquee games that I caught (Penguins games, Winter Classic, etc) so I've seen them at their best. :shrug:

 
Are they actually better than the last 3-4 years?
Sure looks like it to my untrained eye. Although it may just be that their best play of the season has coincided with the NBA All Star Break and the marquee games that I caught (Penguins games, Winter Classic, etc) so I've seen them at their best. :shrug:
I have no idea, but I see they're the six seed right now and the Pens have a game in hand. Would love to know how 74 points/+30gd compares to past years through the same number of games. They change coaches and everyone talks about the improvement, but it hasn't actually seemed much different to me.

 
Yes without any doubts this Caps team is better.Better goaltending,better defense and a commitment by all the players in what Trotz is preaching.They don't have the points that the Boudreau team did(wins wise)but they are playing a tighter style which bodes well for playoff success instead of having to rely on the offense to carry them like the BB teams did.

Nick Backstrom is easily the best player on this team.Sure Ovie gets all the press and I will say his game has improved but Backstrom is the straw that stirs this drink.He does so many things well it's a joy watching him play the way he does.Could easily be in the running for the Selke and now has caught Kane for the scoring title.

I'm pretty pumped to say the least but as all of us know the only thing that matters is what they do come playoff time and I say this team is build to make a run given the style they are playing.Similar to the Hunter system but a little more wide open.One guy that has also improved is Mike Green under Trotz simply because he's not asked to play the top minutes against the better competition and it has paid off with his most complete season in years.

 
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My understanding is that Oates was a pretty bad coach. Trotz is an experienced coach and I believe brought in experienced assistants. They don't just say "Play better defense." They actually teach and show the players what to do. They've also added some upgrades in defensive talent with Orpik and Niskanen. Neither are great players, but they're much better than some of the guys the Caps have been putting out there the last few seasons. They've had way too many d-men recently who just don't belong in the NHL.

You have definitely caught them on a hot streak. They started season a little sluggish and have taken off recently. Hopefully they can keep it going.

 
Now I will say if Holtby goes down they are screwed.I would say he's the 2nd best player for them this year and is vital for any run they want to make.

ETA:Oates was a great offensive mind but had no clue how to teach them to play D.Terrible coach in the long run.

And remember Oates had John Erskine playing top 4 minutes in his D core.Love Erskine but he had no business playing those minutes.

 
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