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Andy Dufresne said:
Chase Stuart said:
Is it me or was Brandon Spikes being touted as a top-5, top 10 pick six months ago? All the mock drafts I've seen lately, including this one, have him at the end of the first round. I didn't think he had a bad senior year... thoughts? Does it have to do with McClain?
It has to do with being a linebacker and the fact that he tried to take a guy's eye out in a ballgame.
:shrug:I don't think the eye gouging thing will hurt his draft stock one bit. LBs get drafted highly when they're elite; just not sure how the scouts see Spikes. I think he grades out much better than Maualuga or Laurinaitis. Is he Jerod Mayo? Patrick Willis? A.J. Hawk? Vilma?
That's the problem, Spikes isnt elite. Watch game tape from the Alabama or Tennessee games (two teams committed to running the ball) Spikes was nowhere to be found. Spikes isnt a physical player, he would rather run and chase. I feel pretty confident saying that Spikes wont even be picked in the first round.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
Players I wish I could have found room for:Jonathan Dwyer, RB - Georgia TechRyan Mathews, RB - Fresno St.Damian Williams, WR - Southern CaliforniaMardy Gilyard, WR - CincinnatiBrandon LaFell, WR - LSU
Any of these could have went to the Texans. Nothing wrong with Price, in fact a good pick considering the style of DLmen DC/DL coach tend to favor. Despite a couple of nice game the Texans still could use a RB with everydown potential versus merely a compliment to Slaton. At WR, Walter and Anderson are passable, but if the Texans are going to climb to the next level they need another guy beside Andre Johnson that consistently (here the word consistent Jabocy) place pressure on the CBs. This will be he toughest year to figure out the Texans. The one position where taking a player high to get a good one is CB and this looks to be an awful CB draft. All the other needs (interior OL, RB,FS) there are regularly good players who can immediately impact a team found throughout the draft.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.
Please no. Just no. The Jags don't have a second round pick so if anything I could see them trading back and taking Tebow while picking up another draft pick. But at 11 I don't see how they can take Tebow. I don't think he'll grade out even close to that position and I believe that the amount of tickets he would sell has been greatly exaggerated.
The tough part is I think if he goes to Jacksonville, the pressure will be there to play him sooner than it would be at other teams. Not a good combination for a guy that isn't NFL ready.Put him on NE or NO or IND or MIA or MIN, let him develop and play in certain packages, and I think he'd be successful. I think the Vikings would be a very good fit, as he'd get a year of training and could reunite with Harvin.
I don't dislike Tebow as a player. With his physical skills and stellar work ethic I think he can become an NFL player of regard. But he is certainly a work in progress and going to Jacksonville could limit his period of adjustment before a lot is expected. Which relates to the idea that he'd sell tickets in that I have every confidence that many fans will buy tickets to see him play but very few are going to buy tickets to see him hold a clipboard. There will be pressure on the Jags to get him on the field, ready or not. That's a bad recipe for an 11 pick overall for the Jags and for Tim Tebow. It doesn't look like as good a match as a lot of people seem to believe at this point.
 
20) Doesn't it seem like Houston is always taking a DL?
2004 - Jason Babin2005 - Travis Johnson2006 - Mario Williams2007 - Amobi OkoyeHas been a lot, but the first two guys were outright busts drafted by the previous regime and no longer on the team. Babin was traded to Seattle and Johnson was outright cut. Okoye was a high upside pick that hasn't panned out yet. Everybody knows about Mario.I'm just glad to see a mock with something other than a 1st round RB which I assume 95% of mocks will have for the Texans this offseason. At this point of the year, IMO there just doesn't seem to be one out there that would be a good fit or a value at #20. A DT, a DB or even a WR makes more sense to me and then maybe a RB in the 2nd.
I could really see them going WR this year. I know they usually try to draft high character guys, but part of me thinks that if Dez is there, he may be the choice. Lotta time until then, though.
 
20) Doesn't it seem like Houston is always taking a DL?
2004 - Jason Babin2005 - Travis Johnson2006 - Mario Williams2007 - Amobi OkoyeHas been a lot, but the first two guys were outright busts drafted by the previous regime and no longer on the team. Babin was traded to Seattle and Johnson was outright cut. Okoye was a high upside pick that hasn't panned out yet. Everybody knows about Mario.I'm just glad to see a mock with something other than a 1st round RB which I assume 95% of mocks will have for the Texans this offseason. At this point of the year, IMO there just doesn't seem to be one out there that would be a good fit or a value at #20. A DT, a DB or even a WR makes more sense to me and then maybe a RB in the 2nd.
I could really see them going WR this year. I know they usually try to draft high character guys, but part of me thinks that if Dez is there, he may be the choice. Lotta time until then, though.
Yeah, I can't see the Texans taking a RB. Foster's not great but he did show something.
 
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
How did Parcells and Antonio Bryant's brief relationship go? He was dealt in 2004 after a year and 5 games with Parcells, but I don't remember why he was dealt. Assuming it's not a horrible relationship, Bryant should land in Miami as their #1.
Both Bryant & Miles have ties to Parcells - I could see either one landing in Miami.
:thumbup: Bryant and Parcells are oil and water. Parcells couldn't stand the knucklehead, and Bryant has a huge problem with authority. Remember the jersey throwing incident? That's just the tip of the iceberg.The Cowboys won't let Miles go anywhere.
 
11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.
Please no. Just no. The Jags don't have a second round pick so if anything I could see them trading back and taking Tebow while picking up another draft pick. But at 11 I don't see how they can take Tebow. I don't think he'll grade out even close to that position and I believe that the amount of tickets he would sell has been greatly exaggerated.
The tough part is I think if he goes to Jacksonville, the pressure will be there to play him sooner than it would be at other teams. Not a good combination for a guy that isn't NFL ready.Put him on NE or NO or IND or MIA or MIN, let him develop and play in certain packages, and I think he'd be successful. I think the Vikings would be a very good fit, as he'd get a year of training and could reunite with Harvin.
I don't dislike Tebow as a player. With his physical skills and stellar work ethic I think he can become an NFL player of regard. But he is certainly a work in progress and going to Jacksonville could limit his period of adjustment before a lot is expected. Which relates to the idea that he'd sell tickets in that I have every confidence that many fans will buy tickets to see him play but very few are going to buy tickets to see him hold a clipboard. There will be pressure on the Jags to get him on the field, ready or not. That's a bad recipe for an 11 pick overall for the Jags and for Tim Tebow. It doesn't look like as good a match as a lot of people seem to believe at this point.
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I'm so happy about the thought of Bryant as a Jet that I won't even offer any criticisms of this mock draft. :goodposting:
Wouldn't you rather have Taylor Mays, S instead?Need an upgrade at that position.

Get an edge Pass Rusher in free agency, bring back Jenkins and a guy like Mays at Safety and the JETS defense becomes really ELITE.
Anyone else think Taylor Mays is gonna be a bust? Granted he's physically and athletically a freak, but i don't think he's much of a football player.He goes for the knockout blow too often instead of wrapping up, and he seems to have trouble making tackles on agile players who can juke out of his grasp. Also in coverage he's not very good.

I'm not 100% positive he's gonna be a bust, but he has a high bust potential imo.
I understand where you're coming from. With Taylor Mays you almost get the impression of the second coming of Adam Archeleta.

But you never know. (insert "shoulder shrug smiley" here)

 

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