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Bill Barue

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Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.

 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
I dont think houston is a pretender. If that Chicago D stays healthy they might be able to make some noise
 
Both of Miami's wins came on the road. Pretty good start to the season when you consider theyve already completed 25% of their road schedule.

 
I think the Dolphins Defense is looking good. A real bunch of grinders and guys that will do anything to win. I think Dansby could be one of the best offseason signings in the whole league.

I think the Fish are for real and if they beat the Jets this weekend everyone will be getting on board. Look for Sanchez to be under heavy pressure and make some mistakes. As for the offense Brown/Williams have to control the game on the ground behind one of the best Offensive lines in the league. Henne really doesn't have to do much just get the ball to Marshall 5 or 6 times a game and move the chains here and there. He is basically just hiding out behind that line.

 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
Cutler was seen to always have a great deal of talent. He was a ProBowl QB in Denver and even at points last year, in a dreadfully woeful Bears offense (Forte hurt, the WRs either rookies, hurt or inexperienced) showed signs of playing well. Even with the offensive (or should I say "offen-seive"?) line this season, he has looked much more in rhythym. Any concerns about the Bears offense start, and to some degree end with the offensive line - not Cutler.
 
We get no respect due to being in the AFC South. The Colts used to overshadow everyone in that division. If we were in the AFC West we'd have won 2-3 division titles in the last 3 years.
I'm sure the Tampa Bay Rays are rushing to send you a sympathy card. :rolleyes:
 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
Pitt needs their QB back or they likely would not be able to win 8 games this year...I know Steelers fans will howl I am wrong but they gotta get some offense going. Green Bay hasn't really played anyone yet and their running game needs work, could bit them in the tush down the road.

You are wrong about Houston, they look determined. Gotta work on that pass defense but they look pretty solid.

Chicago has a pretty good defense, wouldn't sell them short just yet.

Nice thread

 
We get no respect due to being in the AFC South. The Colts used to overshadow everyone in that division. If we were in the AFC West we'd have won 2-3 division titles in the last 3 years.
I'd just as soon everyone overlook the Texans for as long as possible. Rather they play with a chip on their shoulder than spend time listening to how good they are.
 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
Disagree with the 2 bolded.

Houston definitely not a pretender. Right now, I think they have the scariest offense in the NFL.

I'm still in wait and see for Green Bay. Have been unimpressed so far though. Beat up a bad Buffalo team, but this game was closer than it seemed (13-7 at half, and Edwards throwing a pick on the opening drive giving GB great field position turned this into a route), but can't hold that against them for having to play a bad team. Offense and defense struggled at times against Philly. Wouldn't be shocked to see them lose this week at Chicago. Right now my opinion of them haven't changed, a very good team that's just short of being a great team. Fortunately for them, being a very good team in the NFC is looking like it's good enough to at least get a bye.

 
Houston's pass defense is definitely a major problem for them, but the schedule is set up nicely for them to be no worse than 5-1 going into the bye week:

Dallas

at Oak

NYG

KC

I actually think Dallas will find a way to eke out a win on the road this week to avoid the dreaded 0-3, but the Texans should win the rest of those. Given some of the tough road games they have in the four weeks after their bye, they need to take advantage of this stretch.

 
We get no respect due to being in the AFC South. The Colts used to overshadow everyone in that division. If we were in the AFC West we'd have won 2-3 division titles in the last 3 years.
Maybe if you took out the Chargers from the division altogether and substituted the Texans in, but the Chargers would have beaten the Texans quite soundly over the past few years (in fact, in 2007 it was a 35-10 blowout).

I like the Texans quite a bit this year and definitely think they are legit 2-0 contenders, but there's no need to go knocking down other teams and divisions in order to puff yourselves up.

Pack, Steelers, Bears, Saints are for real as well. KC could be a dangerous team this year because of a solid defense and great ST play, but Cassel better get good in a hurry for them to have a shot at the playoffs.

 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
Last 4 games: 13 TDs 2 INTs and averaging 300 yards per game.
 
We get no respect due to being in the AFC South. The Colts used to overshadow everyone in that division. If we were in the AFC West we'd have won 2-3 division titles in the last 3 years.
Who gives a ####? This is the NFL. There's no Coaches' Poll. Respect is meaningless. If Houston wants respect - win.
 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
Houston has to be an early, early promising favorite to make the Super Bowl from the AFC.

 
Pitt needs their QB back or they likely would not be able to win 8 games this year...I know Steelers fans will howl I am wrong but they gotta get some offense going.
I am 100% in agreement with you. You can't expect to win many games by passing for 21 net yards.ETA: Houstson is definitely for real. Miami & Chicago might be more than pretenders.
 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.

Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.

[*]Miami - Just a solid team that will give you all they got every week. Playoffs? Maybe. But no more than that.

[*]Houston - They can win a big game after winning a big game. Did Schaub just grow balls?

Flukey 2-0

[*]Tampa Bay - Cleveland @ home. Carolina on the road. Bye-bye TB next 3 are vs. Pittsburgh, @ Cincy, New Orleans

[*]Kansas City - Beat San Diego on punt returns. Beat Cleveland. Is Cassell a starter? Improving young team in a weak division that may sniff 8 wins.
Cutler was seen to always have a great deal of talent. He was a ProBowl QB in Denver and even at points last year, in a dreadfully woeful Bears offense (Forte hurt, the WRs either rookies, hurt or inexperienced) showed signs of playing well. Even with the offensive (or should I say "offen-seive"?) line this season, he has looked much more in rhythym. Any concerns about the Bears offense start, and to some degree end with the offensive line - not Cutler.
I agree and disagree. I think that Cutler has the arm and the accuracy. When he's forced to do too much and is too pressured he will turn into the anti-Brady and make terrible decisions. That said, Martz has been impressing me with his play calling and I really like what I'm seeing out of Cutler. He seems poised and confident. If the oline can continue what it's doing, this team is going to at least be dangerous. On defense, they put a "must double team" guy (Peppers) into a mix that already had a "must double team" guy in Tommie Harris. Idonije is solid and the line is for real. Add to the line Urlacher and Briggs and this is not a team you will run on when healthy. Nasty bunch.

After that, it gets more patchwork with covering receivers and tight ends (Hillenmeyer out). We'll see...

 
The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:bag: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
 
The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
It's a possibility but not a certainty. The Texans could have suffered a bit of a letdown on the road after such an emotional victory against their toughest division rival. Stranger things have happened.
 
The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:popcorn: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
 
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The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:goodposting: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
They scored 20 unanswered points in a comeback victory on the road in a tough building against a solid team. A week after punching the Colts in the mouth.No, they're not the #3 team in the NFL. But they're for real.
 
The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:lmao: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
They scored 20 unanswered points in a comeback victory on the road in a tough building against a solid team. A week after punching the Colts in the mouth.No, they're not the #3 team in the NFL. But they're for real.
:goodposting: Yes, they struggled, but they still found a way to win. Teams that find a way to win when they don't play their best...those are the good teams.
 
The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:thumbup: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
They scored 20 unanswered points in a comeback victory on the road in a tough building against a solid team. A week after punching the Colts in the mouth.No, they're not the #3 team in the NFL. But they're for real.
Reeks of the New Orleans win in Miami last year. Houston is definetly a AFC contender
 
The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:bag: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
They scored 20 unanswered points in a comeback victory on the road in a tough building against a solid team. A week after punching the Colts in the mouth.No, they're not the #3 team in the NFL. But they're for real.
:thumbup: Yes, they struggled, but they still found a way to win. Teams that find a way to win when they don't play their best...those are the good teams.
They won because they're coach called a timeout as the Skins were kicking the game winning FG. That said, I do think Houston is for real, although they should be 1-1. I've never been a big fan of letting coaches call timeouts a second before the snap.
 
They won because they're coach called a timeout as the Skins were kicking the game winning FG. That said, I do think Houston is for real, although they should be 1-1. I've never been a big fan of letting coaches call timeouts a second before the snap.
Pfft. It is allowed, and it should be. Whether or not you like the rule is irrelevant. Bottom line: Houston found a way to win. In the NFL, where there is not a lot of margin for error since they only play 16 games, that is huge. That was a game Houston would have found a way to lose last year. It is huge that they found a way to win it.
 
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The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:blackdot: Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
They scored 20 unanswered points in a comeback victory on the road in a tough building against a solid team. A week after punching the Colts in the mouth.No, they're not the #3 team in the NFL. But they're for real.
Any team that gives up 426 yards in the air is definitely for real.
 
Houston's pass defense is definitely a major problem for them, but the schedule is set up nicely for them to be no worse than 5-1 going into the bye week:Dallasat OakNYGKCI actually think Dallas will find a way to eke out a win on the road this week to avoid the dreaded 0-3, but the Texans should win the rest of those. Given some of the tough road games they have in the four weeks after their bye, they need to take advantage of this stretch.
Houston is for real, but they have a brutal schedule after their BYE. These 2 wins were a great start but they are going to need to go 5-1, 4-2 going into the BYE to have a good shot at the playoffs. Their achilles heel has always been their losing record in the division, too. So they have to step it up and take 3~4 out of the their 5 remaining divisional games.
 
Real 2-0

[*]New Orleans - reigning champs win two tough games.

[*]Green Bay - is looking like the serious contenders they are predicted to be.

[*]Pittsburgh - Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. This team has to be good, really good to win while waiting for big Ben "herover" Roethlisberger.
:) :towelwave:
 
Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.
I know I'm a Chicago homer and all, but I can't help but think the Bears have a very real chance of being 6-2 or better by the end of week #9:WK OPP

01 DET

02 @DAL

03 GB

04 @NYG

05 @CAR

06 SEA

07 WAS

08 Bye

09 @BUF

10 MIN

11 @MIA

12 PHI

13 @DET

14 NE

15 @MIN

16 NYJ

17 @GB

 
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The Redskins must be the most improved team by a LONG shot because we dominated that game. If Houston is so good, then the Redskins are are a top ten team
:) Houston dominated the last 1/4 of the game. The Redskins are definitely an improved team, but you can't be a top 10 team and blow a huge lead like that at home. Washington might have been in control for most of the game, but they ultimately lost.
My point is that Houston is not that good. ESPN has them as the number 3 team. Number 3 teams don't play like that against ####ty non top 10 teams. And I don't see how you can use a horrible performance against a non top 10 team as justification that htey are real. They STRuggled.
They scored 20 unanswered points in a comeback victory on the road in a tough building against a solid team. A week after punching the Colts in the mouth.No, they're not the #3 team in the NFL. But they're for real.
If they hadn't have iced the kicker, and lost the game, would you still think they were so amazing? I take it that you didn't actually watch the game - they put up 20 unanswered points against the worst defense in the NFL. Admit it, you didn't watch, did you?
 
If they hadn't have iced the kicker, and lost the game, would you still think they were so amazing? I take it that you didn't actually watch the game - they put up 20 unanswered points against the worst defense in the NFL. Admit it, you didn't watch, did you?
In addition to the worst defense in the NFL, you forgot "worst rushing team in the NFL".
 
Cliff Clavin said:
Nate said:
Cliff Clavin said:
Any team that gives up 426 yards in the air is definitely for real.
Fortunately for Houston, wins are determined by scoring more points than your opponent.
:confused: They'll definitely keep it up.
Chicago's chances are better than Houston's. NFC vs the deeper AFC. Chicago's D is better. They trade for Vincent Jackson and move Hester inside more and away they go. Cutler vs Schaub comes with a lot of unanswered questions, but the 1 season Matt didn't get hurt they went 9-7. I'll take Cutler for his arm and toughness. Plus, Miami might be better than both of them without needing to throw.
 
Statcruncher said:
Bill Barue said:
Pretenders 2-0

[*]Chicago - Cutler/Martz looking good with 3 td, no int game @ Dallas, but who believes in Cutler? I do believe in the D.
I know I'm a Chicago homer and all, but I can't help but think the Bears have a very real chance of being 6-2 or better by the end of week #9:WK OPP

01 DET

02 @DAL

03 GB

04 @NYG

05 @CAR

06 SEA

07 WAS

08 Bye

09 @BUF

10 MIN

11 @MIA

12 PHI

13 @DET

14 NE

15 @MIN

16 NYJ

17 @GB
Non of those teams on the schedule is unbeatable. NYGs aren't playing well, GB isn't on top shape(like they were hyped), Minny is 0-2 and playing poor, Mia/NE/NYJ all could play better but aren't there yet. It seems like a lot of the teams on the Bears schedule are underachieving at the moment.

 
Nate said:
redskins08 said:
If they hadn't have iced the kicker, and lost the game, would you still think they were so amazing? I take it that you didn't actually watch the game - they put up 20 unanswered points against the worst defense in the NFL. Admit it, you didn't watch, did you?
In addition to the worst defense in the NFL, you forgot "worst rushing team in the NFL".
exactly, and they gave up 27 points.
 
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whoknew said:
MrTwo94 said:
We get no respect due to being in the AFC South. The Colts used to overshadow everyone in that division. If we were in the AFC West we'd have won 2-3 division titles in the last 3 years.
Who gives a ####? This is the NFL. There's no Coaches' Poll. Respect is meaningless. If Houston wants respect - win.
:goodposting:
 
For all of you saying that Houston is "for real" - and there seem to be an awful lot you - what are you expecting out of them? You don't seriously expect them to win that division, do you?

 
Cliff Clavin said:
Ghost Rider said:
Cliff Clavin said:
Any team that gives up 426 yards in the air is definitely for real.
Was Indy not for real because they had a horrible running game last year?
You might need to flesh this argument out a little more. Because Indy couldn't run the ball last year, that means the Texans are for real?
No, it means you can be "for real" despite being subpar, below average or even crappy in one area of your game. That should be pretty obvious when you look at certain teams who have been successful in the playoffs over just the past decade alone (and not just talking about SB-winning teams).
 
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