The Redskins will beat the Eagles (1 Viewer)

[jwvdcw]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not? The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!! And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team?? I doubt. There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played. The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one. Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

 

[ColtsFreak]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not? The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!! And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team?? I doubt. There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played. The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one. Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

 

[mudshark]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!! 

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

Hey, the Colts have only lost 1 Conference championship game because that's all they've made it to! The Colts usually choke long before that.

 

[JAA]

Keep deluding yourself, but the Iggles haven't played an essentially meaningless game against a team with all of the statistical disadvantages that the 'Skins have.

Are you new here? You obviously have not read the weekly "____ will beat the Eagles" thread with the lines "____ is a trap game for Philly".

 

[JAA]

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck.

No, you suck because you havnt gotten to more than 1 AFC championship game with Payton, Edge, and Marvin. The Eagles have gotten to 3 in a row with McNabb, Staley, and Pinkston.Thanks for playing, please come again

 

[ColtsFreak]

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck.

No, you suck because you havnt gotten to more than 1 AFC championship game with Payton, Edge, and Marvin. The Eagles have gotten to 3 in a row with McNabb, Staley, and Pinkston.Thanks for playing, please come again

So the fact that the colts only made it to 1 AFC championship game in recent years has nothing to do with the great quality of teams in the AFC as compared to the pack of losers in the NFC?? Have you seen the records of the NFC teams this year and in years past??? The difference between the conferences is night and day you fool! If the Colts were in the NFC they would easily have had a super bowl appearance already. Wake up JAA!!!! The eagles blow and thanks for trying to keep up beyotch!!!!!

 

[JAA]

The difference between the conferences is night and day you fool!

 

[jurb26]

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck.

No, you suck because you havnt gotten to more than 1 AFC championship game with Payton, Edge, and Marvin. The Eagles have gotten to 3 in a row with McNabb, Staley, and Pinkston.Thanks for playing, please come again

So the fact that the colts only made it to 1 AFC championship game in recent years has nothing to do with the great quality of teams in the AFC as compared to the pack of losers in the NFC?? Have you seen the records of the NFC teams this year and in years past??? The difference between the conferences is night and day you fool! If the Colts were in the NFC they would easily have had a super bowl appearance already. Wake up JAA!!!! The eagles blow and thanks for trying to keep up beyotch!!!!!

While the tone of this is a bit . There is some truth to what he is saying. The NFC is far behind the AFC and that only seems more obvious as this season rolls on. Oh and why is it exactly that you didn't list any of the defensive players on those respective teams? Maybe skewing the facts a bit....

 

[redman]

It is not my place to defend the Iggles, but these comments about the conferences being night and day different are virtually irrelevant when discussing individual teams. You have to be a bit more precise than to rely upon that generalization. Philly's record against the AFC this year is 2-1, which includes a win against Baltimore with the loss against the Steelers, who IMHO are the hottest and best team in football. Philly belongs in the elite grouping of the top 3 teams in football: NE, Philly and Pittsburgh because they like the others are an all around good football team that has won all of the games they should win, and often by multiple scores. 'Nuff said.

 

[jwvdcw]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!! 

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

I said' playoff failures' not 'championship game failures.' Compare the Eagles record in the playoffs to the Colts in the past few years.

 

[GoCanes]

has it gotten so bad in Eagle Nation that fans are taking what they can get NOW from a smack-talk perspective, because they FEAR the inevitable annual choke and the fact that they have NEVER won a Super Bowl?

:rotflmao:

 

[ColtsFreak]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!  

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

I said' playoff failures' not 'championship game failures.' Compare the Eagles record in the playoffs to the Colts in the past few years.

And as I said earlier that is a direct result of the night and day competition between the AFC and the NFC!!! Read before posting!!!!

 

[JaxBill]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!  

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

I said' playoff failures' not 'championship game failures.' Compare the Eagles record in the playoffs to the Colts in the past few years.

And as I said earlier that is a direct result of the night and day competition between the AFC and the NFC!!! Read before posting!!!!

So you're telling me that in 2002, the AFC was markedly better than the NFC?Are you telling me that the 9-7 Dolphins who blew out your Colts 41 - 0 were better than the NFC playoff teams? The same Dolphins got rolled the next week by 20 by the Raiders.Meanwhile, the NFC South was loaded that year and the Eagles lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion Bucs.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002.htmSure, the AFC is deeper in quality team this year, no question. But to act like it's been a vastly superior conference for the past half decade is inane.

 

[JohnnyU]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!  

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

I said' playoff failures' not 'championship game failures.' Compare the Eagles record in the playoffs to the Colts in the past few years.

And as I said earlier that is a direct result of the night and day competition between the AFC and the NFC!!! Read before posting!!!!

So you're telling me that in 2002, the AFC was markedly better than the NFC?Are you telling me that the 9-7 Dolphins who blew out your Colts 41 - 0 were better than the NFC playoff teams? The same Dolphins got rolled the next week by 20 by the Raiders.Meanwhile, the NFC South was loaded that year and the Eagles lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion Bucs.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002.htmSure, the AFC is deeper in quality team this year, no question. But to act like it's been a vastly superior conference for the past half decade is inane.

Get your facts straight, the Jets blew out the Colts 41-0. The Colts lost to the Dolphins because Lamar Smith ran for 200 on them and the "idiot kicker" missed a last second FG.

 

[JaxBill]

Sorry I got my 9-7 teams confused.

 

[ColtsFreak]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!  

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

I said' playoff failures' not 'championship game failures.' Compare the Eagles record in the playoffs to the Colts in the past few years.

And as I said earlier that is a direct result of the night and day competition between the AFC and the NFC!!! Read before posting!!!!

So you're telling me that in 2002, the AFC was markedly better than the NFC?Are you telling me that the 9-7 Dolphins who blew out your Colts 41 - 0 were better than the NFC playoff teams? The same Dolphins got rolled the next week by 20 by the Raiders.

Meanwhile, the NFC South was loaded that year and the Eagles lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion Bucs.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002.htm

Sure, the AFC is deeper in quality team this year, no question. But to act like it's been a vastly superior conference for the past half decade is inane.

In recent memory the AFC is the better conference by far. Yes, there are 1 or 2 teams in the NFC who are deserving of elite status this year and in previous years and once in a while one of the very few "good" teams in the NFC will win a SB, but overall the talent level has been higher in the AFC for AT LEAST THE LAST HALF DECADE

 

[jasvic]

Does it really matter whether the eagles win or not?  The eagles will most likely choke for the 4th straight year in the playoffs again!!!  And if by some lucky chance they do make it to the super bowl will they really be able to beat an AFC team??  I doubt.  There are definitly 3, but maybe 4 teams that would stomp the eagles if they played.  The way I see it is the eagles can win or lose whatever but they WON'T win the big one.  Sucks to be an eagles fan IMO!!!!!  

No offense, but I don't think a Colts fan has much room to talk about playoff failures.

Wow, we lose 1 time in the AFC championship and we suck. We didn't lose 3 in a row!!! Does the Ravens loss in the divisional count too???

I said' playoff failures' not 'championship game failures.' Compare the Eagles record in the playoffs to the Colts in the past few years.

And as I said earlier that is a direct result of the night and day competition between the AFC and the NFC!!! Read before posting!!!!

So you're telling me that in 2002, the AFC was markedly better than the NFC?Are you telling me that the 9-7 Dolphins who blew out your Colts 41 - 0 were better than the NFC playoff teams? The same Dolphins got rolled the next week by 20 by the Raiders.

Meanwhile, the NFC South was loaded that year and the Eagles lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion Bucs.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002.htm

Sure, the AFC is deeper in quality team this year, no question. But to act like it's been a vastly superior conference for the past half decade is inane.

In recent memory the AFC is the better conference by far. Yes, there are 1 or 2 teams in the NFC who are deserving of elite status this year and in previous years and once in a while one of the very few "good" teams in the NFC will win a SB, but overall the talent level has been higher in the AFC for AT LEAST THE LAST HALF DECADE

What does this have to do with the Eagles-Redskins game this weekend?Can't we all agree that the Eagles and Colts are both very good teams that have yet to win the big game?

Can't we all just get along?

 

[jwvdcw]

7-7 at the half. I hope the Eagles enjoyed that gift wrapped TD from the refs.JW...still think that this is a total mismatch?

 

[redman]

If you'd have asked both teams about their reactions to a 7-7 tie at the half, I think the Redskins would have been much happier than the Eagles. Still, the 'Skins need to at least try to go deep. God knows Ramsey's got the arm strength, and Gardner and McCants excel at jumping for the ball.

 

[jwvdcw]

If you'd have asked both teams about their reactions to a 7-7 tie at the half, I think the Redskins would have been much happier than the Eagles. Still, the 'Skins need to at least try to go deep. God knows Ramsey's got the arm strength, and Gardner and McCants excel at jumping for the ball.

I can't believe that pass was dropped at the end of the half...that was very catchable.

 

[JAA]

The Eagles has NO CHANCE!!

 

[jwvdcw]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

 

[jwvdcw]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

And yes, just so nobody else has to do it:

 

[JBaldachino]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

 

[dgreen]

The only way this game is close would be injuries and a complete lack of focus.

 

[JAA]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

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[fatness]

How many defensive players did the Eagles lose in the game? When I fell asleep it was 3.

 

[R.P. McMurphy]

How many defensive players did the Eagles lose in the game? When I fell asleep it was 3.

I know they lost Jason Short for the year with a broken leg, Hollis Thomas had a dislocated elbow, and Corey Simon had back problems and didn't play. Kearse kept going in and out, but finished the game. Besides that I don't think anyone else was hurt.

 

[crispus attucks]

Signs That the Gap May Be Closing By Thomas BoswellMonday, December 13, 2004; Page D12 Sometimes defeats can be landmarks on the road to progress. Sometimes they're just a waste. At FedEx Field last night, the Redskins suffered one of those narrow, nip-and-tuck defeats, 17-14, to an elite Philadelphia Eagles team that can only be seen as a significant step toward the future, not a mere reiteration of all the frustration of the last 11 years.If the Redskins had finished one final drive to complete a comeback from a 17-7 fourth-quarter deficit, then the return of Joe Gibbs as Washington's coach would have taken an enormous leap and, hard as it is to believe, his club would have been in the thick of the playoff picture in the desolate NFC. Instead, an interception by Patrick Ramsey with 1 minute 46 seconds to play on a first-down pass into the end zone from the Eagles 29-yard line put an end to the Washington attempt at an upset."We decided to take a shot to win it," said Gibbs.That, though it may not seem so to the Redskins, was the true crux of this game. With less than two minutes to play, against a team that beat them by 22 points just 21 days ago, the Redskins were in position to take a shot to beat an Eagles team that now owns a 12-1 record and may well win the Super Bowl.As matters are measured in the NFL, that is progress, especially from a Redskins team that lacks at least 10 key players because of injury. If the Redskins, at 4-9, now have little hope for this postseason, they have plenty of cause to think they are laying a coherent foundation of consistent hard effort, truly sterling defense and slowly improving play at quarterback.For Gibbs, there is one and only one team in the NFL that he now uses as a yardstick to measure his Redskins. It's not the Cowboys, even though his old nemesis Bill Parcells coaches them. It's not the Giants either, even though New York was the other team that cost Gibbs so much sleep in his previous 12 years in Washington.The new 4 a.m. nightmare for Gibbs on his Redskins Park cot is these Eagles. Philadelphia is now the dominant NFC East power, with more wins that any NFL team in the last four years. The Eagles stand in the path of everything he wants to accomplish. If you can't even rule your own division, how can you boss the conference, much less the whole league.From the day he was announced as coach, Gibbs identified the Eagles as the primary target in his sights. Would the Redskins prove to be one season behind the Eagles? Two or three years away? Or could a team with as many seasons of disappointment in its collective memory as the Redskins even glimpse the Eagles juggernaut in the distance?After two meetings with the Eagles this season, it appears that the Redskins are within sight of them, though the Philadelphians are far from being within their grasp. In this tight battle, each team gained exactly 312 yards. Hitting was vicious. The Redskins actually ran more plays, 74-57, and dominated time of possession, 33:57 to 26:03. Tailback Clinton Portis was not neglected as he was in Philadelphia last month, getting 23 carries for 80 yards and catching four passes for 22. And hard-as-nails wide receiver Laveranues Coles caught 12 balls, many in traffic, for 100 yards. Finally, the Redskins may have uncovered a star in H-back Chris Cooley, who caught five balls for 75 yards and was the end-zone target of the last Ramsey pass that was intercepted by crafty old Eagles star Brian Dawkins.Despite all this, the biggest step that the Redskins have made to gain ground on the Eagles this season came last month in Philadelphia, when Gibbs finally admitted a huge mistake and switched quarterbacks. Nothing else this year has held the Redskins back so much or has now begun to remedy their problems so much.After engineering a 31-7 win over the Giants and turning in three tough-minded, low-mistake performances in defeat against the very cream of the NFL -- the Eagles twice and the 12-1 Steelers in Pittsburgh -- Ramsey has established new credibility. If Gibbs had started Ramsey for the entire season, instead of waiting until the first Eagles game in Philadelphia to finally hand him the job, the Redskins would almost certainly have at least two more wins, and be squarely in the playoff hunt in the sickly NFC.The issue is not that Ramsey has played so well in the last four games, though he has certainly been adequate against top foes, while showing modest week-to-week improvement in running Gibbs's offense. His competence, plus a bit of growing confidence, stands in painful contrast to the nine-game disaster of Mark Brunell. When this season is recalled, the first and perhaps only question that will linger is why a student of football as astute as Gibbs could not see that Brunell's gifts had disintegrated while ignoring that Ramsey could quickly become a plausible starter.In last night's game, Ramsey completed 29 of 45 passes for 251 yards and had no interceptions until the end.The Redskins' primary final test was the one they failed so badly in Philadelphia. Faced with a deficit in the final period against a better team, could they keep their poise? On the road in November, they crumbled.This time, the heart that was missing in Philadelphia started to appear. The necessary execution, however, fell short. In a season full of defeats by a touchdown or less, this game may seem like the rule. It was not. This was a loss that offered promise for the future. In the futile days of Brunell, such a near-comeback would have been a fantasy. In the early days of Ramsey, it is still too much to ask. But, by the middle of next season, that may no longer be the case.As yet the Eagles have no reason to fear the Redskins. But, after several seasons as a mere Eagles afterthought, the Redskins now have the Philadelphians' full attention. That in itself is an achievement

 

[JAA]

Gibbs and his coaching staff were atrocious last night. The only think THeisman was right about was how long it took Was to get set to hike the ball.

 

[Cocky Crow]

I just figured it out, jwvdcw = Merrill Hodge.

 

[jwvdcw]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

 

[jasvic]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

I was watching the same replay, and his knee was in bounds. One knee equals two feet. Even the lousy commentators mentioned it. It was a good call.

 

[jwvdcw]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

I was watching the same replay, and his knee was in bounds. One knee equals two feet. Even the lousy commentators mentioned it. It was a good call.

Is there any way to PM a video? Or do you have Ares? I have it downloaded off Ares, and I've looked at it frame by frame....his knee came cown on the out of bounds line. I'm 100% positive of this.

 

[JAA]

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

There is no chance your friend is a Redskins fan

 

[JAA]

Is there any way to PM a video?

link 1 link 2

 

[jasvic]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

I was watching the same replay, and his knee was in bounds. One knee equals two feet. Even the lousy commentators mentioned it. It was a good call.

Is there any way to PM a video? Or do you have Ares? I have it downloaded off Ares, and I've looked at it frame by frame....his knee came cown on the out of bounds line. I'm 100% positive of this.

Not to get off topic, but how is Ares to use? I had never heard of it until now, and just took a quick look at the website.What kind of stuff you find on it and what not?As for the play, I'm going by what I saw last night with my Tivo. I am a biased Eagles fan for what it's worth. Although, I also thought he had control when his feet were down. And I thought the PI penalty wasn't as bad as people made it sound considering the DB had his arm around his waist.So take my opinions with a grain of salt.

 

[jwvdcw]

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

There is no chance your friend is a Redskins fan

I watched the game with 4 other people. Two Eagles fans, one Giants fan, and one Bengals fan. Every one of them agreed with me after I pointed out what I've said here. The one fan I was referrencing was an eagles fan.

 

[jwvdcw]

Is there any way to PM a video?

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Yes, I already admitted that I'm crying. Whats your point? I totally agree with you. That doesn't change the fact that the refs won the game for Philly last night.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

I was watching the same replay, and his knee was in bounds. One knee equals two feet. Even the lousy commentators mentioned it. It was a good call.

Is there any way to PM a video? Or do you have Ares? I have it downloaded off Ares, and I've looked at it frame by frame....his knee came cown on the out of bounds line. I'm 100% positive of this.

you are wrong. that knee was clearly inbounds.

 

[jwvdcw]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

I was watching the same replay, and his knee was in bounds. One knee equals two feet. Even the lousy commentators mentioned it. It was a good call.

Is there any way to PM a video? Or do you have Ares? I have it downloaded off Ares, and I've looked at it frame by frame....his knee came cown on the out of bounds line. I'm 100% positive of this.

Not to get off topic, but how is Ares to use? I had never heard of it until now, and just took a quick look at the website.What kind of stuff you find on it and what not?As for the play, I'm going by what I saw last night with my Tivo. I am a biased Eagles fan for what it's worth. Although, I also thought he had control when his feet were down. And I thought the PI penalty wasn't as bad as people made it sound considering the DB had his arm around his waist.So take my opinions with a grain of salt.

I havn't used many other services, so I can't really compare, but I've had no problmes with Ares. I have a high speed connection, so I can usually download pretty quickly, and I'm able to find almost anything I need(although some obscure stuff is tough to find).

 

[jwvdcw]

Complete horse####.Even after that terrible PI penalty that basically gave the Eagles 7 points, I was still willing to come in here and admit that the Eagles were the better team tonight if they went on to win. However, that was definitely not an interception at the end of the game. The defender took 2 steps in bounds...and on the first step he was still fighting his teamate over the ball. Then when his teamate let go, the ball squirted out of his hands a little bit and he pressed it against his hip. It was then that he had complete control. But after having complete control, he only got one foot in bounds. Two huge plays...both go against the Skins. And the thing that really pisses me off is that the ref only looked at the play for like 30 seconds...thats a huge play- take your time and get it right!

I can't argue the PI call.. but the interception are you kidding? He had complete control and got his knee down. I disagree with the call on the field of two feet down, but once you get a knee down it doesn't matter how many feet you have down. I don't doubt you know your football, but come on don't post something ridiculous like that. Knee down + possession = catch, no matter if one foot doesn't hit the ground.

No he did not get his knee in bounds. I'm 100% positive because my friend who was wtaching the game said that, and then we focused in on that as the next replay was shown. He and another teamate were fighting over the ball as his first foot came down. He had control as his second foot came down. Then HIS KNEE HIT OUT OF BOUNDS.

I was watching the same replay, and his knee was in bounds. One knee equals two feet. Even the lousy commentators mentioned it. It was a good call.

Is there any way to PM a video? Or do you have Ares? I have it downloaded off Ares, and I've looked at it frame by frame....his knee came cown on the out of bounds line. I'm 100% positive of this.

you are wrong. that knee was clearly inbounds.

I'm looking at it right now!No, it was not in bounds. I can see it with my own eyes.

 

[jwvdcw]

Anyway.....Congrats to the Eagles. Regardless of last night's game, they're obviously having a great season, and the Redskins clearly are not. I won't say 'good luck', because honestly I'll be rooting against them, but I think the Eagles definitely have the look of a championship team. Congrats on the win last night, however tainted it might have been. The real reason that this hurts so much is because I honestly thought they could've made a playoff run(if they won out, they would've been 8-8 with an 8-4 conference record, which is the first tiebreaker and would put them over prety much any other 8-8 team....so unless 6 teams go 9-7, they would've made it).

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Someone needs glasses. I saw it many times last night. I don't know what angle you are seeing, but the one replayed during the game clearly showed his knee down in the endzone; not out of bounds.if it is so clear, why did they not overrule it?

 

[JAA]

Is there any way to PM a video?

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Yes, I already admitted that I'm crying. Whats your point? I totally agree with you. That doesn't change the fact that the refs won the game for Philly last night.

 

[JAA]

I won't say 'good luck', because honestly I'll be rooting against them

im shocked

 

[fatness]

How many defensive players did the Eagles lose in the game? When I fell asleep it was 3.

I know they lost Jason Short for the year with a broken leg, Hollis Thomas had a dislocated elbow, and Corey Simon had back problems and didn't play. Kearse kept going in and out, but finished the game. Besides that I don't think anyone else was hurt.

Thank you. I finally had time to look it up. One or two are out for the year, it appears.philadelphiaeagles.com article

There was no official word Monday afternoon on the status of defensive tackle Hollis Thomas, who dislocated his left elbow in Sunday's win over Washington. Meanwhile, linebacker Jason Short will have season-ending surgery on his fractured fibula on Tuesday. As head coach Andy Reid met the media Monday, Thomas was undergoing an MRI to determine the extent of the damage, if any. Thomas suffered a season-ending biceps tear to the same elbow last season. "It's on the elbow that he had surgery on before," Reid explained. "They just have to go in there and see with the MRI exactly what he's torn or hasn't torn." A number of other players were banged up in Sunday's game and their status for practice this week and next weekend's game remains uncertain. Center Hank Fraley has a high ankle sprain and may not do much in practice this week. "I think Hank is going to be ok for the game. He may be a little slow for the week, but I think as we go through the week he'll be ok for the game," Reid said. Receiver Terrell Owens has a lower back contusion and is reportedly pretty sore. Defensive tackle Corey Simon left Sunday's game with low back spasms and is day to day. Defensive end Derrick Burgess and linebacker Nate Wayne were declared out for next weekend's game. Burgess is still recovering from a sternum separation, while Wayne is out with a hamstring injury. Punt returner/running back Reno Mahe is making progress in his recovery from a high ankle sprain. Defensive end Jerome McDougle is expected to get some work in this week and could be available on Sunday. He has a knee injury. "I know he wants to get back out there," Reid said. "We just have to see how he does." Offensive guard Artis Hicks and Jermane Mayberry both returned to the starting lineup on Sunday and made it through the game without any sort of setback. "There was a little rust there, they knocked it off and got back into the swing of things," Reid said. With Short done for the year, Reid said the team will likely add one of its young linebackers -- Mike Labinjo or Greg Richmond -- to the active roster. Both are currently on the practice squad. The team may also add a defensive tackle to the practice squad, Reid said.

 

[TxBuckeye]

The PI call was atrocious and a gift to the Eagles but there were quite a few like calls around the NFL yesterday. It's becoming the norm this year. The interception was just a horrible decision and a horrible pass by Ramsey. All in all though, I'm glad to see process in the 'skins. It will be an offseason of "what-if" for me, as in what if Gibbs had popped his head out of his ### and started Ramsey much earlier in the season? I have no idea what he thought he saw in Brunnel to keep him in there as long as he did. Then again, I did not artifically inflate my hopes in the preseason. I figured it would take a year for Gibbs to get settled and the 'skins to get used to him as the coach. But, I don't think it was a devestating loss. The 'skins had little chance of making the playoffs and even less chance of winning if they got there. I'd rather see them play well and lose every game the remainder of the year just to increase their draft position. But, I think they have a real shot at winning two of the last three so it won't likely pan out that way.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Iggles = EXPOSED

 

[skyking80]

Steelers =Over rated!