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This one? Team A gives:WR Jones, JacPK Gostkowski, NELB Howard, Oak2007 Rookie Pick 1.12 2007 Rookie Pick 2.9 2007 Rookie Pick 3.9 2007 Rookie Pick 3.12 for2007 Rookie Pick 1.02As much as I like MJones, and it's a lot, very nicely done in most leagues.
I'd say Jones entering year 3 would be roughly equivalent to 1.07 in this class. 1.07 + 1.12 for 1.02 (the other picks are inconsequential) is a deal i would do EVERY TIME.
Wasn't my trade wish it was. I can only think of maybe a couple guys who might go for such a deal in the leagues I'm in. Most of them want the rights to my 1st born when they are feeling generous.Always trade depth for quality. ALWAYS!
Great deal for 1.01...Rudi will only net me 1.02 in my league
That was actually me.
This was in a Zealots Field league, and the trade was posted on their message boards for rating and discussion. More people thought the other guy (getting MJones+) got the better end of the deal here. I think that rationale can be boiled down to:"Trading all that for one pick is a big risk and means that guy better not be a bust. There is a decent chance that at least a couple of those later picks could really pan out (aka DeMeco Ryans last year)."To be fair to the other side, he's got a ton of holes. This trade gives him 3 vets who are upgrades over what he had, and the potiential to add 4 more in the top half of the draft. A RB, no matter how good, isn't going to turn this squad around by himself. I think if he can net 5 solid starters here, he's done well for himself and anything more would be gravy.But the way I look at is is I managed to put myself in a position to take an elite RB prospect without damaging my core or trading my 1.09. Losing Jones hurts a bit, but Howard and Gost are easily-replacable cogs. My depth in this league is pretty good at most positions, and I couldn't see much chance of the 2nd or 3rd rounders doing a lot besides waiting on my bench. I agree with those here who would take that kind of chance all day every day.
Team A got robbed ...
That being said, Look at what you have there. Only two guys have looked to be promising. Frank Gore and B. Edwards, and out of those two I would rather have Gore. It seems to be easier to hit on rbs than receivers. Some of the top WRs that are can't miss guys like, C. Rogers, D. Terrell, K. Robinson, M. Williams just to name a few never pan out. For every J. Rice, R. Moss and L. Fitgerald there are 100 guys that end up just being mediocor fantasy receivers. While guys like Boldin and Colston fall through the gaps and end up getting picked up in free agency. I like Johnson this year myself, and being at #4 I wouldn't be suprised to get him there and if I don't that should leave M. Bush to fall to me, so I don't really see where I can go wrong if I don't move out of that position.I agree but we've all seen plenty of RB reaches in rookie drafts before. Last years WR's were poor, but as recently as 2 years ago I can recall the likes of JJ Arrington, Eric Shelton, Frank Gore or Ryan Moats going before Braylon Edwards, Troy Williamson, Mark Clayton and Mike Williams.And these were FBG leagues.
did you break you finger hitting "reject"?
usless there are some salary cap considerations, Jones-Drew and a prospect for 1.1 seems like a bargain.
I have the 1.1 in a very similar league, and no way do I make that trade.... these two leagues assign contract years. so no cap issues. What makes it even more ridiculous is that the guy getting 1.1 has like 3 more 1st rounders. I'm not sure I take Jones-Drew and the 1.5 for the 1.1 this year.
I think he's probably the best offensive prospect in the draft, but you have to remember that RBs are generally much more highly sought after than WRs in FF. You can almost always work a trade for a productive WR, but teams will ask the world if you try to trade for one of their RBs. You have to factor that into your rankings.
Horrible trade.Will said:
I think you have to put the deal in context. If you're a rebuilding team and S-Jax is your only good player, this trade might make some sense. You're guaranteed either Lynch or Peterson at 1.02. Stallworth and Henry are pretty good long-term prospects. The 1.04 should net a WR like Jarrett, a QB like Russell, or a RB like Bush or Pittman. And the 2008 first could end up being extremely valuable. The 3rd round picks you lose are of relatively low value. Battle is a journeyman, Mason is nearing the end, and Stokley and Parker are virtually worthless. To me, it's basically:Steven JacksonDerrick MasonforMarshawn LynchAntonio PittmanChris HenryDonte Stallworth2008 1stMaybe not a great deal, but you could do worse.
add R. Brown to that list
you can, he doesn't have to, and I won't. For those with the depth to handle the risk, Peterson is easily the #1 pick, and equal or better than all but the 7 Jeter named. FWIW, I wouldn't trade AD for Alexander, but that's easily debatable.
Haha they are stone walling you.Or maybe they have traded with you before and still have the taste of blood in thier mouths.Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF league
Who cares? I think All Day will go a long way in turning a team around.I will try to update the original post with the deals added at some point here.
If they are, that's fine. I'm cool with sitting tight and taking AD. Was just interested to see if one of these guys wanted to make it worth my while to trade out of the spot. Maybe after the NFL draft if Lynch or Johnson end up in unfavorable situations, one of em may reconsider. If not, there's a lot worse fates then being stuck at 1.01.Haha they are stone walling you.Or maybe they have traded with you before and still have the taste of blood in thier mouths.Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at thier current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
Who cares? I think All Day will go a long way in turning a team around.I will try to update the original post with the deals added at some point here.
Just received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
I thought it was at least worth a counter.Just received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
The way I see it, if you don't have a top 3 pick or a top 10 RB to trade, it will be almost impossible to acquire the 1.01. In some leagues, I can see Fitzgerald/Smith/CJ for the 1.01, but like last year, that's a difficult pick to acquire.I thought it was at least worth a counter.Just received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF league
Thought about it briefly, but with the dropoff between 1.01 and 1.04 coupled with the seemingly weak overall depth in this draft, it's going to be tough to make something work. I don't see much value at all in late 2nd rounders and later this year. I'd probably need something very substantial in 2008 to feel good about dropping down past 1.03 as things sit right now. I will keep you in mind as an interested party and maybe closer to/after the NFL draft, we can revisit and see if a mutually-agreeable deal can be reached.I thought it was at least worth a counter.Just received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
If it were me holding the 1.03, probably not. Unless I was in a "win now" mode, I'd rather take my chances with CJ over DJ.
i would have rejected this out right as wellthis deal does nothing to help your teami would have at least taken a second to look at his roster to see if i could counter if i could have gotten a top player backif there wasn't a player i wanted then there is no chance that a deal could get doneJust received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
But he could/will probably have both if he wants with 1.02 as well. But you don't think its enough...humm
ask the owner and let us know, its not a total crap offer anyways. I don't think its enough either but everyone is different.
I'd say it's close, but probably not enough. DJ has too many injury/health questions about him to knock him down. Branch and Hackett taking receptions away doesn't help much either. Tough to say though. Maybe DJ and a lower 1st might get it done.
