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***The rookie hype has begun*** (1 Viewer)

The 1.04 has suddenly become very valuable in the respective owner's mind.

I was sent an offer of the 2007 1.04 asking for my 2007 1st round pick; 2008 1st round pick and 2008 2nd round pick.

I was also asked if I would like to trade my 2007 1st round pick and my 2008 1st round pick to move up 3 slots in the first round this year, which would have put me at 1.06.

 
Got this offer today in a ZF league where I have the 1.02:

Get 1.04 and 1.05

Give 1.02 and 4.01

Doesn't seem to bad, but I'd really prefer to get one of those picks in 2008, based on team needs and the players available with those picks. So I asked about that.

His response was "If I swapped the '08 first rounder instead of 1.4, could I get 3.1 instead of 4.1?"

Now I don't know about you, but if I am giving up a guaranteed top-4 pick this year for an undetermined pick in '08 and I have to wait a year to get it, shouldn't the price go down, if anything?

Unless he's thinking that I am so desperate to stockpile '08 picks that I'd pay a premium, I am not sure I am getting this logic at all.

 
The 1.04 has suddenly become very valuable in the respective owner's mind. I was sent an offer of the 2007 1.04 asking for my 2007 1st round pick; 2008 1st round pick and 2008 2nd round pick.I was also asked if I would like to trade my 2007 1st round pick and my 2008 1st round pick to move up 3 slots in the first round this year, which would have put me at 1.06.
the first offer isnt to bad, the second one is pretty bad though.
 
The 1.04 has suddenly become very valuable in the respective owner's mind. I was sent an offer of the 2007 1.04 asking for my 2007 1st round pick; 2008 1st round pick and 2008 2nd round pick.I was also asked if I would like to trade my 2007 1st round pick and my 2008 1st round pick to move up 3 slots in the first round this year, which would have put me at 1.06.
the first offer isnt to bad, the second one is pretty bad though.
I can't justify trading a current first, future first and second for the rights to a draft slot only a few players above where I am currently at in the draft. Had someone like Peterson or C. Johnson fallen through the cracks, yes, by all means. Jackson's situation is nice but his draft rights are just not worth that much. Not 2 1sts and a 2nd but that is part of the fun. One man's trash...another man's treasure
 
The 1.04 has suddenly become very valuable in the respective owner's mind. I was sent an offer of the 2007 1.04 asking for my 2007 1st round pick; 2008 1st round pick and 2008 2nd round pick.I was also asked if I would like to trade my 2007 1st round pick and my 2008 1st round pick to move up 3 slots in the first round this year, which would have put me at 1.06.
the first offer isnt to bad, the second one is pretty bad though.
I can't justify trading a current first, future first and second for the rights to a draft slot only a few players above where I am currently at in the draft. Had someone like Peterson or C. Johnson fallen through the cracks, yes, by all means. Jackson's situation is nice but his draft rights are just not worth that much. Not 2 1sts and a 2nd but that is part of the fun. One man's trash...another man's treasure
You also have to factor in the "clueless owner" phenomenon. Almost every league I'm in has 1-2 owners who can never get a trade done because they consistently overvalue almost every player on their roster.
 
The 1.04 has suddenly become very valuable in the respective owner's mind.

I was sent an offer of the 2007 1.04 asking for my 2007 1st round pick; 2008 1st round pick and 2008 2nd round pick.

I was also asked if I would like to trade my 2007 1st round pick and my 2008 1st round pick to move up 3 slots in the first round this year, which would have put me at 1.06.
the first offer isnt to bad, the second one is pretty bad though.
I can't justify trading a current first, future first and second for the rights to a draft slot only a few players above where I am currently at in the draft. Had someone like Peterson or C. Johnson fallen through the cracks, yes, by all means. Jackson's situation is nice but his draft rights are just not worth that much. Not 2 1sts and a 2nd but that is part of the fun. One man's trash...another man's treasure
You also have to factor in the "clueless owner" phenomenon. Almost every league I'm in has 1-2 owners who can never get a trade done because they consistently overvalue almost every player on their roster.
This can never be stated enough. Very close in owner hiearchy to the I don't know what I don't know guy; throw it against the wall guy and...my personal favorite...let me assume everyone else has never played and put the screws to them with all first offers guy.
 
The 1.04 has suddenly become very valuable in the respective owner's mind. I was sent an offer of the 2007 1.04 asking for my 2007 1st round pick; 2008 1st round pick and 2008 2nd round pick.I was also asked if I would like to trade my 2007 1st round pick and my 2008 1st round pick to move up 3 slots in the first round this year, which would have put me at 1.06.
the first offer isnt to bad, the second one is pretty bad though.
I can't justify trading a current first, future first and second for the rights to a draft slot only a few players above where I am currently at in the draft. Had someone like Peterson or C. Johnson fallen through the cracks, yes, by all means. Jackson's situation is nice but his draft rights are just not worth that much. Not 2 1sts and a 2nd but that is part of the fun. One man's trash...another man's treasure
yea the first one is bad too, I read it wrong when you first posted it or got my years mixed up anyways.
 
1.01 was just traded for 1.04, 1.06, an '08 1st rounder. A few players were involved, but they were mostly throw-ins.

 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.

 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:wall: ;)
 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:lmao: :goodposting:
I have depth at both/ wr and we can start 3 rb's and only 2 wr's. I'd rather have Lynch or CJ than sit on those 3 guys. Moss and Burress have value for sure but I'd rather move them now when it's fairly high. KJ I'm worried about with that lisfranc break. I'll gladly take my chances of Lynch or CJ who have a lot higher ceiling than mediocre 2nd tier wr's like Moss and Burress. I gurantee I could trade Lynch straight up for a better wr than either Moss or Burress and CJ will be better than both of them.
 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:lmao: :goodposting:
I have depth at both/ wr and we can start 3 rb's and only 2 wr's. I'd rather have Lynch or CJ than sit on those 3 guys. Moss and Burress have value for sure but I'd rather move them now when it's fairly high. KJ I'm worried about with that lisfranc break. I'll gladly take my chances of Lynch or CJ who have a lot higher ceiling than mediocre 2nd tier wr's like Moss and Burress. I gurantee I could trade Lynch straight up for a better wr than either Moss or Burress and CJ will be better than both of them.
The thing is, you basically gave up 3 2nd-5th round players for one 2nd round player. It might work out for you, but you probably could've kept one of your players out of the deal and still made the trade.
 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:excited: :(
I have depth at both/ wr and we can start 3 rb's and only 2 wr's. I'd rather have Lynch or CJ than sit on those 3 guys. Moss and Burress have value for sure but I'd rather move them now when it's fairly high. KJ I'm worried about with that lisfranc break. I'll gladly take my chances of Lynch or CJ who have a lot higher ceiling than mediocre 2nd tier wr's like Moss and Burress. I gurantee I could trade Lynch straight up for a better wr than either Moss or Burress and CJ will be better than both of them.
The thing is, you basically gave up 3- 4th/5th round players for one 2nd round player.
Exactly.
 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:eek: :mellow:
I have depth at both/ wr and we can start 3 rb's and only 2 wr's. I'd rather have Lynch or CJ than sit on those 3 guys. Moss and Burress have value for sure but I'd rather move them now when it's fairly high. KJ I'm worried about with that lisfranc break. I'll gladly take my chances of Lynch or CJ who have a lot higher ceiling than mediocre 2nd tier wr's like Moss and Burress. I gurantee I could trade Lynch straight up for a better wr than either Moss or Burress and CJ will be better than both of them.
The thing is, you basically gave up 3- 4th/5th round players for one 2nd round player.
Exactly.
You'd trade a 3rd, a 4th, and 5th round vet draft pick for a 2nd round vet draft pick?
 
Got this offer today in a ZF league where I have the 1.02:Get 1.04 and 1.05Give 1.02 and 4.01Doesn't seem to bad, but I'd really prefer to get one of those picks in 2008, based on team needs and the players available with those picks. So I asked about that. His response was "If I swapped the '08 first rounder instead of 1.4, could I get 3.1 instead of 4.1?"Now I don't know about you, but if I am giving up a guaranteed top-4 pick this year for an undetermined pick in '08 and I have to wait a year to get it, shouldn't the price go down, if anything? Unless he's thinking that I am so desperate to stockpile '08 picks that I'd pay a premium, I am not sure I am getting this logic at all.
Of course... future picks are discounted. I think the standard rate in the NFL would be 1 round, and though it's probably not that severe in dynasty FF, it's definitely worth less - especially when you know you have a top 4 pick today. As they say, 1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush... :shrug:
 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:thumbup: :(
I have depth at both/ wr and we can start 3 rb's and only 2 wr's. I'd rather have Lynch or CJ than sit on those 3 guys. Moss and Burress have value for sure but I'd rather move them now when it's fairly high. KJ I'm worried about with that lisfranc break. I'll gladly take my chances of Lynch or CJ who have a lot higher ceiling than mediocre 2nd tier wr's like Moss and Burress. I gurantee I could trade Lynch straight up for a better wr than either Moss or Burress and CJ will be better than both of them.
The thing is, you basically gave up 3- 4th/5th round players for one 2nd round player.
Exactly.
You'd trade a 3rd, a 4th, and 5th round vet draft pick for a 2nd round vet draft pick?
I would gladly trade 2- 2nd tier wr's that will be my #3 wr's (when I only start 2) and a rb who may never be a #1 ever again for a rookie that is a consensus second round pick in a dynasty league. If you have depth you can afford to give up #'s for quality. The only thing that could be a regret is if KJ returns to form and tears it up in Detroit while Bell sits on the bench. I also don't see Moss ever coming close to his #'s of 2 years ago. Burress is soild but not spectacular. If CJ or Lynch meet expectations then I'm happy to take the risk. Moss and Burress aren't going to ever be top 5 wr's, CJ could. It's not like I didn't try and trade these guys for other players/picks before. Believe it or not a lot of people are'nt willing to give up a whole lot for these guys. All 3 have a very wide range of percieved value. I could sit on the three and live with the mediocrity and depth or go for a stud. I'll take the latter. These 3 guys would be on my bench most of the time anyways.
 
I just traded Kevin Jones, Santana Moss and Plax Burress for the 1.03. The 1.03 owner has Tatum Bell and I was tired of holding onto him. Moss and Burress I'm not really high on as they are very inconsistent. I think it may end being a good deal for both of us in the end.
:) :thumbup:
I have depth at both/ wr and we can start 3 rb's and only 2 wr's. I'd rather have Lynch or CJ than sit on those 3 guys. Moss and Burress have value for sure but I'd rather move them now when it's fairly high. KJ I'm worried about with that lisfranc break. I'll gladly take my chances of Lynch or CJ who have a lot higher ceiling than mediocre 2nd tier wr's like Moss and Burress. I gurantee I could trade Lynch straight up for a better wr than either Moss or Burress and CJ will be better than both of them.
The thing is, you basically gave up 3- 4th/5th round players for one 2nd round player.
Exactly.
You'd trade a 3rd, a 4th, and 5th round vet draft pick for a 2nd round vet draft pick?
I would gladly trade 2- 2nd tier wr's that will be my #3 wr's (when I only start 2) and a rb who may never be a #1 ever again for a rookie that is a consensus second round pick in a dynasty league. If you have depth you can afford to give up #'s for quality. The only thing that could be a regret is if KJ returns to form and tears it up in Detroit while Bell sits on the bench. I also don't see Moss ever coming close to his #'s of 2 years ago. Burress is soild but not spectacular. If CJ or Lynch meet expectations then I'm happy to take the risk. Moss and Burress aren't going to ever be top 5 wr's, CJ could. It's not like I didn't try and trade these guys for other players/picks before. Believe it or not a lot of people are'nt willing to give up a whole lot for these guys. All 3 have a very wide range of percieved value. I could sit on the three and live with the mediocrity and depth or go for a stud. I'll take the latter. These 3 guys would be on my bench most of the time anyways.
At least the title of this thread still rings true!
 
Team A will give:

Calhoun, Brian DET RB

Mason, Derrick BAL WR

Byrd, Dominique STL TE

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.01

For

Team B will give

Williams, Roy DET WR

Abraham, John ATL DE

Bulluck, Keith TEN LB

This is a ZFAC - so contracts and salaries were a factor as well. The team receiving pick 1.01 gained about $150 in cap room ($5000 cap) with the deal. Abraham and Bullock are in the final year of their contract, Bullock cannot be extended.

 
Made this trade today:I gave1.04 and 1.05For1.01 and 2.01I'm happy. I get my boy AD now! :thumbdown:
you won big time!!
I agree! The great thing is that he offered this to me! I jumped all over it. I was recently rejected for offering the 1.04 and 1.05 for 1.02 and 1.09.The guy I traded with followed our deal up with this one:1.05 and 2008 1st roundfor1.03 and 2008 2nd roundSo basically he ended up doing this:1.01, 2.01, 2008 1st roundfor1.03, 1.04, 2008 2nd roundNot a good deal considering his team will likely have a high 1st round pick next year (barring a miracle)
 
Just went down in a 12 team, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 0.5PPR RB, 1PPR WR/TE league:

Young, Vince TEN QB;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.12

for

Walter, Andrew OAK QB;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.03;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 3.03

 
I just drafted Calvin Johnson with the 1.03 and then immediately dealt him. Details below.

Pittsburgh Steelers gave up:

Johnson, Calvin DET WR

Minnesota Vikings gave up:

Green, Ahman HOU RB

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.07

Year 2007 Draft Pick 3.11

Year 2008 Round 1 Draft Pick from Minnesota Vikings

This is a Zealots Field dynasty league and while I have decent WRs, I only had 1 startable RB. I'm banking on Green having at least a couple of decent seasons and hopefully I'll guess right on one of the 2 first round picks I acquired. Glad I got the 3rd round pick also because I did not have a 3rd rounder due to a trade last year.

Honestly, I don't know if I should be :banned: on this trade or :shrug: on this trade.

 
I just drafted Calvin Johnson with the 1.03 and then immediately dealt him. Details below.Pittsburgh Steelers gave up:Johnson, Calvin DET WRMinnesota Vikings gave up:Green, Ahman HOU RBYear 2007 Draft Pick 1.07Year 2007 Draft Pick 3.11Year 2008 Round 1 Draft Pick from Minnesota VikingsThis is a Zealots Field dynasty league and while I have decent WRs, I only had 1 startable RB. I'm banking on Green having at least a couple of decent seasons and hopefully I'll guess right on one of the 2 first round picks I acquired. Glad I got the 3rd round pick also because I did not have a 3rd rounder due to a trade last year.Honestly, I don't know if I should be :banned: on this trade or :shrug: on this trade.
I love that deal from your end. In leagues where there is no PPR, and you can start 3 RBs? Seems a lot to give up.
 
10 team PPR

1.05, 2.04 & '08 3rd - for - 1.03 & 3.03

Neither team is mine. The team that traded 1.03 got completely ### raped.

 
ZF league, I traded 1.06, 1.12, 2.07 for the just-drafted Peterson. Those picks ended up turning into Bush, Gonzalez and Posluszny.

 
10 team PPR1.05, 2.04 & '08 3rd - for - 1.03 & 3.03 Neither team is mine. The team that traded 1.03 got completely ### raped.
I wouldn't necessarily say this, especially if Peterson and Lynch when 1 and 2. While I wouldn't make the trade, I think Lynch might be in a better RBBC than people expect. I wouldn't be shocked to see two of Bush, Jackson, Henry do better than Lynch. At the 14th pick, you are looking at someone like Irons, Booker, Ginn, Gonzalez, Quinn, Rice etc- all who could be very good players.
 
10 team PPR1.05, 2.04 & '08 3rd - for - 1.03 & 3.03 Neither team is mine. The team that traded 1.03 got completely ### raped.
I wouldn't necessarily say this, especially if Peterson and Lynch when 1 and 2. While I wouldn't make the trade, I think Lynch might be in a better RBBC than people expect. I wouldn't be shocked to see two of Bush, Jackson, Henry do better than Lynch. At the 14th pick, you are looking at someone like Irons, Booker, Ginn, Gonzalez, Quinn, Rice etc- all who could be very good players.
This is what I'm hearing (this dynasty league is full of gossip and rumors). The original owner of 1.03 made the trade because he does not like Lynch. The owner of 1.01 will take Peterson, and I have pick 1.02 through a trade I made before the 2005 season and will take Calvin. Supposedly the guy traded down for Greg Olsen. That is who he really wants, but he could have moved down further for Olsen, plus gotten more in return. The guy never shopped the pick around. Other owners have confirmed with me that they would have given up a lot more. I can't fault the guy for moving down if he really doesn't like Lynch and prefers Olsen, he just made a huge mistake by not shopping the pick around.
 
10 team PPR1.05, 2.04 & '08 3rd - for - 1.03 & 3.03 Neither team is mine. The team that traded 1.03 got completely ### raped.
I wouldn't necessarily say this, especially if Peterson and Lynch when 1 and 2. While I wouldn't make the trade, I think Lynch might be in a better RBBC than people expect. I wouldn't be shocked to see two of Bush, Jackson, Henry do better than Lynch. At the 14th pick, you are looking at someone like Irons, Booker, Ginn, Gonzalez, Quinn, Rice etc- all who could be very good players.
This is what I'm hearing (this dynasty league is full of gossip and rumors). The original owner of 1.03 made the trade because he does not like Lynch. The owner of 1.01 will take Peterson, and I have pick 1.02 through a trade I made before the 2005 season and will take Calvin. Supposedly the guy traded down for Greg Olsen. That is who he really wants, but he could have moved down further for Olsen, plus gotten more in return. The guy never shopped the pick around. Other owners have confirmed with me that they would have given up a lot more. I can't fault the guy for moving down if he really doesn't like Lynch and prefers Olsen, he just made a huge mistake by not shopping the pick around.
I would agree that if he could have gotten much more for 1.3, then he didn't make the best deal. It is possible thought that he slides down from 1.5, because he may realize he can get Olsen later. My only point was that I could easily see him getting players at the #5 and #14 spots that help his team as much as the #3 player.
 
tried to trade up to the 1.06 to grab Michael Bush (I have Lamont Jordan), but the owner wanted Carson Palmer...

Ended up trading with a different owner, giving Matt Jones, Reggie Williams & an '08 2nd rounder for Mercedes Lewis & 1.05, where I grabbed Bush. :lmao:

 
I just traded this years rookie picks 1.07, 1.10 and 1.11 for the 1.03 (Marshawn Lynch more then likely). I feel I gave up a lot but my team needed a good young RB because my only useable RBs are Parker/McGahee/A.Green. Thoughts??

 
I just traded this years rookie picks 1.07, 1.10 and 1.11 for the 1.03 (Marshawn Lynch more then likely). I feel I gave up a lot but my team needed a good young RB because my only useable RBs are Parker/McGahee/A.Green. Thoughts??
You did well.
 
I just traded this years rookie picks 1.07, 1.10 and 1.11 for the 1.03 (Marshawn Lynch more then likely). I feel I gave up a lot but my team needed a good young RB because my only useable RBs are Parker/McGahee/A.Green. Thoughts??
You did well.
not so well if Lynch is stuck in a RBBC . . .
I wouldn't lose any sleep over Wright or A-Train if I were a Lynch owner. He should be the clear starter.
 
I just drafted Calvin Johnson with the 1.03 and then immediately dealt him. Details below.Pittsburgh Steelers gave up:Johnson, Calvin DET WRMinnesota Vikings gave up:Green, Ahman HOU RBYear 2007 Draft Pick 1.07Year 2007 Draft Pick 3.11Year 2008 Round 1 Draft Pick from Minnesota VikingsThis is a Zealots Field dynasty league and while I have decent WRs, I only had 1 startable RB. I'm banking on Green having at least a couple of decent seasons and hopefully I'll guess right on one of the 2 first round picks I acquired. Glad I got the 3rd round pick also because I did not have a 3rd rounder due to a trade last year.Honestly, I don't know if I should be :banned: on this trade or :banned: on this trade.
I love that deal from your end. In leagues where there is no PPR, and you can start 3 RBs? Seems a lot to give up.
If you needed a RB, why bother with all those other picks? While I like Green, you probably could've gotten someone quite a bit better for the 1.03 without all those extra fluff picks.
 
This trade went down last night in an all FBG league w/standard scoring, start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR/TE & 2 Flex:

Young, Vince TEN QB;

Johnson, Andre HOU WR;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.04

for

Jackson, Tarvaris MIN QB;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.02;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.09;

Year 2007 Draft Pick 1.10

The team getting the 1.04 owns Morency also.

 
Just received this little Dynasty Gem the other day:

I give: T.Henry,1.2

I get 1.1

So I basically give up a potential top 5-10 rb just for the luxury of getting Adrian Peterson instead of Calvin... either of whom I would be very happy with and help my team.

Thanks for playing kid.. No thanks.

:goodposting:

 
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Just received this little Dynasty Gem the other day:I give: T.Henry,1.2I get 1.1So I basically give up a potential top 5-10 rb just for the luxury of getting Adrian Peterson instead of Calvin... either of whom I would be very happy with and help my team.Thanks for playing kid.. No thanks. :thumbup:
:goodposting:
 

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