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The Tea Party is back in business! (2 Viewers)

Jody Hice, pastor, talk radio host, and one of the Republicans in a runoff to replace Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA), argued that the gay community had a secret plan to attract and sodomize children.
Thank god the GOP cleaned up the crazies.
Yeah, crazy-### pastors.

I mean would we ever want someone who followed an extremist hokum preacher to be in a position of power in this country?

As reported recently by the New York Post, Wright told a seminar he taught at the University of Chicago that Jews control the flow of worldwide information and oppress blacks in Israel and in the United States.
“White folk done took this country,” Wright said. “You’re in their home, and they’re gonna let you know it.” Addressing blacks in his class, Wright said, “You are not now, nor have you ever been, nor will you ever be, a brother to white folk. And if you do not realize that, you are in serious trouble.”
“It was always about becoming white . . . to master what [they] do.” He added, “We probably have more African-Americans who’ve been brainwashed than we have South Africans who’ve been brainwashed.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwhzSDSfHdI


Thank goodness the Democrats cleaned up the crazies!
Wait, is this a serious post? Someone points out crazy #### that an actual Republican candidate recently said, and you compare it to crazy ramblings from Obama's former pastor?

Reach much?

 
Jody Hice, pastor, talk radio host, and one of the Republicans in a runoff to replace Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA), argued that the gay community had a secret plan to attract and sodomize children.
Thank god the GOP cleaned up the crazies.
Yeah, crazy-### pastors.

I mean would we ever want someone who followed an extremist hokum preacher to be in a position of power in this country?

As reported recently by the New York Post, Wright told a seminar he taught at the University of Chicago that Jews control the flow of worldwide information and oppress blacks in Israel and in the United States.
“White folk done took this country,” Wright said. “You’re in their home, and they’re gonna let you know it.” Addressing blacks in his class, Wright said, “You are not now, nor have you ever been, nor will you ever be, a brother to white folk. And if you do not realize that, you are in serious trouble.”
“It was always about becoming white . . . to master what [they] do.” He added, “We probably have more African-Americans who’ve been brainwashed than we have South Africans who’ve been brainwashed.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwhzSDSfHdI


Thank goodness the Democrats cleaned up the crazies!
Wait, is this a serious post? Someone points out crazy #### that an actual Republican candidate recently said, and you compare it to crazy ramblings from Obama's former pastor?

Reach much?
They don't have much let them have their fun.

 
Government accountability, restrained spending, adherence to Constitutional principles = Racist Crazies

VA scandal, unrestrained spending and debt accumulation, major foreign policy blunders, drug cartel gun running, ACA rollout disaster, financial targeting of political opposition = Awesomeness

That's where we are now as a nation. The people have spoken and know what they want. They deserve to get it... good and hard.

On the bright side, maybe somebody will finally step up to the plate and take the IRS down a notch.

 
Tea Party Leader Arrested In Connection With Photos Of Thad Cochran's Wife

The Clarion-Ledger reports that attorney Mark Mayfield, a leader of the Mississippi Tea Party and officer with the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested by police in Madison, Miss. The second suspect arrested has yet to be identified and no charges have been announced.

The developments follow the Friday arrest of blogger Clayton Kelly, who allegedly photographed Cochran's wife, Rose, at a nursing home where she is bedridden and suffering from progressive dementia. Kelly, who supports Cochran's primary opponent, state Sen. Chris McDaniel, allegedly used the photos he took of Cochran's wife in a video he posted online in April that was taken down soon after.

McDaniel has insisted he was unaware of the details of Kelly's alleged break-in before it was reported in the press. However, Cochran's campaign has raised questions about whether McDaniel's campaign was involved in the incident.

Kelly faces felony charges of photographing or filming another person without permission where there is expectation of privacy and exploitation of a vulnerable adult.

Tea party groups have poured almost $2.4 million into Mississippi's June 3 Republican primary in the hopes of denying Cochran a seventh term in the Senate.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2014/05/17/cochran-wife-nursing-home-arrest/9211639/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran's campaign is questioning how Chris McDaniel's campaign manager, state Sen. Melanie Sojourner, apparently knew about Clayton Kelly's arrest before news of him allegedly sneaking into Rose Cochran's nursing home room and taking photos broke.

Cochran campaign spokesman Jordan Russell said Sojourner left a voice mail message for Cochran campaign manager Kirk Sims at about 7:45 a.m. Saturday, offering condolences over Kelly's alleged actions and assurance McDaniel's campaign doesn't condone it. Russell said Sojourner indicated she had been concerned over the incident since Friday night.
Three More Arrested In 'Constitutional Clayton' Blogger Case

Mark Mayfield (pictured right), a member of the board of directors for the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested Thursday, according to the Clarion Ledger of Mississippi.

At around 2:34 PM EDT Clarion-Ledger editor Sam Hall tweeted that the second arrest on Thursday in connection to the "Constitutional Clayton" photographing case was Richard Sager of Laurel. A little more than an hour later The Clarion Ledger reported that a third suspect, John Mary (pictured above) was charged for conspiracy in connection to Kelly. Police confirmed later in the day that Mary had been arrested but then "his own recognizance due to extensive medical conditions after consulting with his attorney and the Madison/Rankin County District Attorney’s Office."

Appearing in court shortly after news broke of the arrest, Mayfield faces conspiracy charges while Sager faces charges of tampering with evidence and conspiracy. Sager's bond was set at $250,000 per count while bond for Mayfield was set at $250,000 on each count.

Clayton Kelly was arrested Friday and faces felony charges of photographing or filming another without permission where there is expectation of privacy and exploitation of a vulnerable adult, which carries up to a 10-year sentence. Kelly wanted to use the photograph of Cochran's wife in an anti-Cochran video. Kelly's lawyer, Kevin Camp, in an interview with TPM after his court appearance on Thursday, said Kelly had cooperated with police so far with the investigation. Kelly had handed over computers and passwords in their investigation, Camp said. "He told them everything he's doing, provided everything to them," Camp said. He said Kelly passed over "computers, any passwords, anything like that. Cell phones, anything of that nature."

But Kelly is denying that he knew who Sager, Mayfield, and Mary are.

Kelly's bond was also increased from $100,000 because of two additional charges against him: a charge of conspiracy and a felony charge for photographing Rose Cochran. Kelly's new bond was set at $200,000. Kelly had already been charged with exploitation of a vulnerable adult. Kelly, Camp confirmed to TPM, had previously been charged with a felony for marijuana possession in 2007. He ended probation for that charge in 2010, according to Camp. A local report also confirmed that Kelly had previously faced charges for cocaine.

Kelly supports state Sen. Chris McDaniel, Cochran's tea party primary challenger. Mayfield appears to be a McDaniel supporter as well and, according to the Clarion Ledger's Sam Hall, contributed $500 to McDaniel and served as an active volunteer on his campaign.
 
Despite doomsday predictions, report finds only 1 layoff from sequester cutsDespite doomsday warnings from the White House and lawmakers on both sides that hundreds of thousands would lose their jobs as a result of the sequester, it turns out the budget cuts have only led to one job being lost among 23 federal agencies.

Now Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., is demanding answers as to why the Obama administration repeatedly warned taxpayers that the $85.3 billion in spending cuts, which went into effect in March 2013, would threaten hundreds of thousands of jobs. The findings were revealed in a government watchdog report.

“Taxpayers expect us to root our predictions in fact, not ideology and spin,” Coburn said Wednesday in a letter to Office of Management and Budget Director Sylvia Matthews Burwell.

In response, OMB spokesman Steve Posner said in a statement to FoxNews.com there is "no question" the sequestration has had an negative impact on Americans, pointing out the report also states that employees had their hours reduced and agencies were forced to curtail hiring as a result of the cuts, among other examples.

The March report by the Government Accountability Office describes how 23 agencies and departments -- which appear to span most of the federal government -- complied with the cuts. Only one, the Department of Justice, decided to lay off a single employee in fiscal year 2013.

A spokeswoman for the GAO told FoxNews.com the DOJ reported that the laid-off worker was from the the U.S. Parole Commission, but they had no other information about the employee. Virtually every other arm of the government turned to tactics like cutting overtime, reducing employee travel and putting workers on furlough to avoid actual firings.

The report is a stark contrast from the dire predictions from the Obama administration and Democratic leadership, who blamed Republicans for the cuts.

In a memo released before the sequester cuts went into effect, the White House claimed they “threaten hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs.” In a speech at the White House that February, President Obama repeated those claims.

"These cuts are not smart, they are not fair, they will hurt our economy, they will add hundreds of thousands of Americans to the unemployment rolls," he said. "This is not an abstraction. People will lose their jobs."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid upped the doomsday rhetoric in July, according to the Washington Post, saying on the Senate floor over a million jobs were already lost.

“We have learned that the sequestration already has cut 1.6 million jobs. So we need job creation. We need to help the middle class by creating jobs,” he said.

Republicans also warned about the potential job-killing effect of the cuts, with House Speaker John Boehner claiming in a February 2013 Wall Street Journal op-ed “thousands of jobs” would be threatened.

Coburn said he wants Burwell, who has been nominated to lead the health department, to explain why the predictions were so drastically wrong.

“While that’s good news for federal employees and other workers, it is devastating to the credibility of Washington politicians and administration officials who spent months – and millions of dollars – engaging in a coordinated multi-agency cabinet-level public relations campaign to scare the American people,” he said.

Coburn noted two frequently cited government estimates by Goldman Sachs and the Congressional Budget Office, which predicted a loss of anywhere from 99,999 and 1,599,999 jobs, seem to have been way off base.

Posner said that many figures in the GAO report make clear that "sequestration had significant negative effects on services for the public as well as agency operations and federal workers." He said in the future, it may get even worse.

"GAO itself notes that many of the flexibilities used to mitigate the effects of sequestration in 2013 may not be available in future years, suggesting that the impacts would be even worse if sequestration is allowed to occur in future years," he said.
:bowtie:

 
Did they say it would kill government jobs? Or just jobs? Not clear from the link JoeT posted.

btw... GDP was just revised to -1.0% in the first quarter.

 
Did they say it would kill government jobs? Or just jobs? Not clear from the link JoeT posted.

btw... GDP was just revised to -1.0% in the first quarter.
Does it matter?

They were wrong either way.
Since the evidence being cited that they were wrong refers to government jobs -- yeah.

Not sure what else to say if declining GDP and low inflation despite trillions being pumped into the system by the Fed doesn't convince you we remain on shaky economic ground.

 
Did they say it would kill government jobs? Or just jobs? Not clear from the link JoeT posted.

btw... GDP was just revised to -1.0% in the first quarter.
Does it matter?

They were wrong either way.
Since the evidence being cited that they were wrong refers to government jobs -- yeah.

Not sure what else to say if declining GDP and low inflation despite trillions being pumped into the system by the Fed doesn't convince you we remain on shaky economic ground.
Plus the concerns/warnings I heard were not time-specific, they likely were based on what might happen if the sequester continued unabated. Thankfully that did not happen. The cuts were in place for maybe 9 months before the budget deal.

Here's the Federal Reserve attributing economic slowdown in 2013 to the sequester. But why go to them when you can go to Foxnews.com for high level nonpartisan economic analysis?

 
Tea Party Leader Arrested In Connection With Photos Of Thad Cochran's Wife

The Clarion-Ledger reports that attorney Mark Mayfield, a leader of the Mississippi Tea Party and officer with the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested by police in Madison, Miss. The second suspect arrested has yet to be identified and no charges have been announced.

The developments follow the Friday arrest of blogger Clayton Kelly, who allegedly photographed Cochran's wife, Rose, at a nursing home where she is bedridden and suffering from progressive dementia. Kelly, who supports Cochran's primary opponent, state Sen. Chris McDaniel, allegedly used the photos he took of Cochran's wife in a video he posted online in April that was taken down soon after.

McDaniel has insisted he was unaware of the details of Kelly's alleged break-in before it was reported in the press. However, Cochran's campaign has raised questions about whether McDaniel's campaign was involved in the incident.

Kelly faces felony charges of photographing or filming another person without permission where there is expectation of privacy and exploitation of a vulnerable adult.

Tea party groups have poured almost $2.4 million into Mississippi's June 3 Republican primary in the hopes of denying Cochran a seventh term in the Senate.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2014/05/17/cochran-wife-nursing-home-arrest/9211639/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran's campaign is questioning how Chris McDaniel's campaign manager, state Sen. Melanie Sojourner, apparently knew about Clayton Kelly's arrest before news of him allegedly sneaking into Rose Cochran's nursing home room and taking photos broke.

Cochran campaign spokesman Jordan Russell said Sojourner left a voice mail message for Cochran campaign manager Kirk Sims at about 7:45 a.m. Saturday, offering condolences over Kelly's alleged actions and assurance McDaniel's campaign doesn't condone it. Russell said Sojourner indicated she had been concerned over the incident since Friday night.
Three More Arrested In 'Constitutional Clayton' Blogger Case

Mark Mayfield (pictured right), a member of the board of directors for the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested Thursday, according to the Clarion Ledger of Mississippi.At around 2:34 PM EDT Clarion-Ledger editor Sam Hall tweeted that the second arrest on Thursday in connection to the "Constitutional Clayton" photographing case was Richard Sager of Laurel. A little more than an hour later The Clarion Ledger reported that a third suspect, John Mary (pictured above) was charged for conspiracy in connection to Kelly. Police confirmed later in the day that Mary had been arrested but then "his own recognizance due to extensive medical conditions after consulting with his attorney and the Madison/Rankin County District Attorney’s Office."

Appearing in court shortly after news broke of the arrest, Mayfield faces conspiracy charges while Sager faces charges of tampering with evidence and conspiracy. Sager's bond was set at $250,000 per count while bond for Mayfield was set at $250,000 on each count.

Clayton Kelly was arrested Friday and faces felony charges of photographing or filming another without permission where there is expectation of privacy and exploitation of a vulnerable adult, which carries up to a 10-year sentence. Kelly wanted to use the photograph of Cochran's wife in an anti-Cochran video. Kelly's lawyer, Kevin Camp, in an interview with TPM after his court appearance on Thursday, said Kelly had cooperated with police so far with the investigation. Kelly had handed over computers and passwords in their investigation, Camp said. "He told them everything he's doing, provided everything to them," Camp said. He said Kelly passed over "computers, any passwords, anything like that. Cell phones, anything of that nature."

But Kelly is denying that he knew who Sager, Mayfield, and Mary are.

Kelly's bond was also increased from $100,000 because of two additional charges against him: a charge of conspiracy and a felony charge for photographing Rose Cochran. Kelly's new bond was set at $200,000. Kelly had already been charged with exploitation of a vulnerable adult. Kelly, Camp confirmed to TPM, had previously been charged with a felony for marijuana possession in 2007. He ended probation for that charge in 2010, according to Camp. A local report also confirmed that Kelly had previously faced charges for cocaine.

Kelly supports state Sen. Chris McDaniel, Cochran's tea party primary challenger. Mayfield appears to be a McDaniel supporter as well and, according to the Clarion Ledger's Sam Hall, contributed $500 to McDaniel and served as an active volunteer on his campaign.
So the Vice Chair of the Central Mississippi Tea Party did something monumentally stupid. HuffPo reports it like he is some national figure in the Tea Party by running a headline that a Tea Party leader did this.

 
Tea Party Leader Arrested In Connection With Photos Of Thad Cochran's Wife

The Clarion-Ledger reports that attorney Mark Mayfield, a leader of the Mississippi Tea Party and officer with the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested by police in Madison, Miss. The second suspect arrested has yet to be identified and no charges have been announced.

The developments follow the Friday arrest of blogger Clayton Kelly, who allegedly photographed Cochran's wife, Rose, at a nursing home where she is bedridden and suffering from progressive dementia. Kelly, who supports Cochran's primary opponent, state Sen. Chris McDaniel, allegedly used the photos he took of Cochran's wife in a video he posted online in April that was taken down soon after.

McDaniel has insisted he was unaware of the details of Kelly's alleged break-in before it was reported in the press. However, Cochran's campaign has raised questions about whether McDaniel's campaign was involved in the incident.

Kelly faces felony charges of photographing or filming another person without permission where there is expectation of privacy and exploitation of a vulnerable adult.

Tea party groups have poured almost $2.4 million into Mississippi's June 3 Republican primary in the hopes of denying Cochran a seventh term in the Senate.
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2014/05/17/cochran-wife-nursing-home-arrest/9211639/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran's campaign is questioning how Chris McDaniel's campaign manager, state Sen. Melanie Sojourner, apparently knew about Clayton Kelly's arrest before news of him allegedly sneaking into Rose Cochran's nursing home room and taking photos broke.

Cochran campaign spokesman Jordan Russell said Sojourner left a voice mail message for Cochran campaign manager Kirk Sims at about 7:45 a.m. Saturday, offering condolences over Kelly's alleged actions and assurance McDaniel's campaign doesn't condone it. Russell said Sojourner indicated she had been concerned over the incident since Friday night.
Three More Arrested In 'Constitutional Clayton' Blogger Case

Mark Mayfield (pictured right), a member of the board of directors for the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested Thursday, according to the Clarion Ledger of Mississippi.At around 2:34 PM EDT Clarion-Ledger editor Sam Hall tweeted that the second arrest on Thursday in connection to the "Constitutional Clayton" photographing case was Richard Sager of Laurel. A little more than an hour later The Clarion Ledger reported that a third suspect, John Mary (pictured above) was charged for conspiracy in connection to Kelly. Police confirmed later in the day that Mary had been arrested but then "his own recognizance due to extensive medical conditions after consulting with his attorney and the Madison/Rankin County District Attorney’s Office."

Appearing in court shortly after news broke of the arrest, Mayfield faces conspiracy charges while Sager faces charges of tampering with evidence and conspiracy. Sager's bond was set at $250,000 per count while bond for Mayfield was set at $250,000 on each count.

Clayton Kelly was arrested Friday and faces felony charges of photographing or filming another without permission where there is expectation of privacy and exploitation of a vulnerable adult, which carries up to a 10-year sentence. Kelly wanted to use the photograph of Cochran's wife in an anti-Cochran video. Kelly's lawyer, Kevin Camp, in an interview with TPM after his court appearance on Thursday, said Kelly had cooperated with police so far with the investigation. Kelly had handed over computers and passwords in their investigation, Camp said. "He told them everything he's doing, provided everything to them," Camp said. He said Kelly passed over "computers, any passwords, anything like that. Cell phones, anything of that nature."

But Kelly is denying that he knew who Sager, Mayfield, and Mary are.

Kelly's bond was also increased from $100,000 because of two additional charges against him: a charge of conspiracy and a felony charge for photographing Rose Cochran. Kelly's new bond was set at $200,000. Kelly had already been charged with exploitation of a vulnerable adult. Kelly, Camp confirmed to TPM, had previously been charged with a felony for marijuana possession in 2007. He ended probation for that charge in 2010, according to Camp. A local report also confirmed that Kelly had previously faced charges for cocaine.

Kelly supports state Sen. Chris McDaniel, Cochran's tea party primary challenger. Mayfield appears to be a McDaniel supporter as well and, according to the Clarion Ledger's Sam Hall, contributed $500 to McDaniel and served as an active volunteer on his campaign.
So the Vice Chair of the Central Mississippi Tea Party did something monumentally stupid. HuffPo reports it like he is some national figure in the Tea Party by running a headline that a Tea Party leader did this.
That race has had some truly crazy and disgusting things go on.

I think I'm pretty conservative as a whole, maybe not as much as many in Alabama and Mississippi. I used to live in MS, and my wife is from there. I can tell you there's no way I could vote for McDaniel. The fact that it's even a debate whether the Democratic nominee may possibly have a shot to win the Mississippi Senate race if McDaniel wins speaks volumes. You have to be way out there for that to be a possibility in Mississippi. The nutjobs surrounding his campaign aren't helping him any either.

I really thought the past two election cycles would have taught the Republicans about throwing away the Senate with extremist candidates. Apparently these guys like Harry Reid better than they let on. They're doing a terrific job in helping him keep his job as Majority Leader. I have my doubts a Democrat can win that race regardless, but it would be truly one of the most amazing political things I have ever seen if this all ends up in Mississippi electing a Democrat for senate.

 
So the Vice Chair of the Central Mississippi Tea Party did something monumentally stupid. HuffPo reports it like he is some national figure in the Tea Party by running a headline that a Tea Party leader did this.
Plenty of local sources reported it also.

http://www.sunherald.com/2014/05/24/5599201/analysis-another-day-another-bombshell.html

Cochran's side hopes the other shoe drops in Madison, where the arrests of Mark Mayfield, Richard Sager and John Mary inched the scandal closer to its opponents. Mayfield is a TEA Party official and ardent McDaniel support. Mary took over McDaniel's "Right Side" radio program -- the program of "mamacita" fame -- when McDaniel went to the state Senate. He has had McDaniel as a guest host.

McDaniel, a few hours after the arrest, said District Attorney Michael Guest found no connection in the case to him. A few hours later, Guest said no one has been cleared and the investigation continues
 
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/06/05/ballot-tampering-3-tea-partiers-found-inside-locked-courthouse-on-election-night-video/

Ballot Tampering? 3 Tea Partiers Found Inside Locked Courthouse On Election Night (VIDEO)

It’s important to note that Janis Lane’s story and the other officials’ stories continue to change through the investigation. They changed within five minutes, which caused us to be even more deliberate and determined to find out what was going on

There are conflicting stories from the three of them, which began to raise the red flag, and we’re trying to get to the bottom of it. No official charges have been filed at this point, but we don’t know where the investigation will lead us.

 
My in laws live in the next larger town over from where McDaniel is from. They vote Republican probably 90% of the time at least and won't be voting for McDaniel. The guy may be too far right for Mississippi which is astounding.

 
In a stunning upset propelled by tea party activists, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) was defeated in Tuesday’s congressional primary, with insurgent David Brat delivering an unpredicted and devastating loss to the second most powerful Republican in the House who has widely been touted as a future speaker.

The race called shortly after 8 p.m. Eastern by the Associated Press.

Brat’s victory gives the GOP a volatile outlook for the rest of the campaign season, with the party establishment struggling late Tuesday to grapple with the news and tea party conservatives relishing a surprising win.

“This is an earthquake,” said former Minnesota congressman Vin Weber, a friend of Cantor’s. “No one thought he’d lose.” But Brat, tapping into conservative anger over Cantor’s role in supporting efforts to reform federal immigration laws, found a way to combat Cantor’s significant financial edge.

 
So...anyone else want to make claims about the demise of the Tea Party?
Nope! They're speeding the welcome demise of today's GOP. I welcome their resurgence/maintenance of relevance with open arms.

P.S., the fact that they won a Republican primary in a heavily red district is not the best evidence that their efforts to gain traction nationally have not been repudiated.

 
So...anyone else want to make claims about the demise of the Tea Party?
Nope! They're speeding the welcome demise of today's GOP. I welcome their resurgence/maintenance of relevance with open arms.

P.S., the fact that they won a Republican primary in a heavily red district is not the best evidence that their efforts to gain traction nationally have not been repudiated.
You can cling to that if you want, but I suspect it's more partisan hyperbole than anything real. The pendulum will swing back to the GOP sooner rather than later.

 
So...anyone else want to make claims about the demise of the Tea Party?
Nope! They're speeding the welcome demise of today's GOP. I welcome their resurgence/maintenance of relevance with open arms.

P.S., the fact that they won a Republican primary in a heavily red district is not the best evidence that their efforts to gain traction nationally have not been repudiated.
You can cling to that if you want, but I suspect it's more partisan hyperbole than anything real. The pendulum will swing back to the GOP sooner rather than later.
With the demographic shifts going on around the country, I sort of doubt it . . . unless, of course, the GOP moderates its positions. And immigration would be a very good place to start, as even people like McCain realize. However, Dave Brat feels strongly the opposite and as such, I don't think he'll be swinging your pendulum for you.

 
So...anyone else want to make claims about the demise of the Tea Party?
Nope! They're speeding the welcome demise of today's GOP. I welcome their resurgence/maintenance of relevance with open arms.

P.S., the fact that they won a Republican primary in a heavily red district is not the best evidence that their efforts to gain traction nationally have not been repudiated.
You can cling to that if you want, but I suspect it's more partisan hyperbole than anything real. The pendulum will swing back to the GOP sooner rather than later.
Not if they keep moving right.

 
So...anyone else want to make claims about the demise of the Tea Party?
Nope! They're speeding the welcome demise of today's GOP. I welcome their resurgence/maintenance of relevance with open arms.

P.S., the fact that they won a Republican primary in a heavily red district is not the best evidence that their efforts to gain traction nationally have not been repudiated.
You can cling to that if you want, but I suspect it's more partisan hyperbole than anything real. The pendulum will swing back to the GOP sooner rather than later.
Which GOP? Because the "old" one (you know, no longer ReagReps and far to the right of the Contract with Americaners) seems gone, and I don't see the pendulum going to the new Right of Rift GOP, considering how demographics are going more liberal, especially in regard to civil rights issues. That's both the growing Millennial generations coupled with an aging / dying Great Generation and Boomer Generation and the purple inducing Latino vote.

 
In a stunning upset propelled by tea party activists, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) was defeated in Tuesday’s congressional primary, with insurgent David Brat delivering an unpredicted and devastating loss to the second most powerful Republican in the House who has widely been touted as a future speaker.

The race called shortly after 8 p.m. Eastern by the Associated Press.

Brat’s victory gives the GOP a volatile outlook for the rest of the campaign season, with the party establishment struggling late Tuesday to grapple with the news and tea party conservatives relishing a surprising win.

“This is an earthquake,” said former Minnesota congressman Vin Weber, a friend of Cantor’s. “No one thought he’d lose.” But Brat, tapping into conservative anger over Cantor’s role in supporting efforts to reform federal immigration laws, found a way to combat Cantor’s significant financial edge.
The Democratic Party has to be salivating, as I feel like back-and-forth between the Tea Party and the GOP is going to pave the way for a rout in 2016 for the White House.

 
At what point does SOME faction of the Republican Party join the Dems on certain issues? It's not unforeseeable, especially in Rep. districts that have a viable Dem base and candidate to run against. Do we THEN start to see a more "seismic" shift in the political spectrum?

 
Yeah, I think we are witnessing the demise of the Republican Party as we know it. Either the party will change names or it might as well, and I think Koya's allegiance- swap to the Democrats goes along with it.

 
Yeah, I think we are witnessing the demise of the Republican Party as we know it. Either the party will change names or it might as well, and I think Koya's allegiance- swap to the Democrats goes along with it.
Oh let's get real. This is the exact same fight within the party that has been going on for 50 years. We now have a 'tea party' label that is being used by the wackos on the left to mock it. The GOP is missing good leadership. Bush Jr., McCain and Romney all sucked ash.

 
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In a stunning upset propelled by tea party activists, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) was defeated in Tuesday’s congressional primary, with insurgent David Brat delivering an unpredicted and devastating loss to the second most powerful Republican in the House who has widely been touted as a future speaker.

The race called shortly after 8 p.m. Eastern by the Associated Press.

Brat’s victory gives the GOP a volatile outlook for the rest of the campaign season, with the party establishment struggling late Tuesday to grapple with the news and tea party conservatives relishing a surprising win.

“This is an earthquake,” said former Minnesota congressman Vin Weber, a friend of Cantor’s. “No one thought he’d lose.” But Brat, tapping into conservative anger over Cantor’s role in supporting efforts to reform federal immigration laws, found a way to combat Cantor’s significant financial edge.
The Democratic Party has to be salivating, as I feel like back-and-forth between the Tea Party and the GOP is going to pave the way for a rout in 2016 for the White House.
:goodposting:

The far right couldn't have picked a worse issue to make a stand on with the national party, based on changing opinions and demographics. Gay marriage was bad, immigration is worse.

The GOP will still get their gains in November thanks to the Senate election map and the realities of second term midterm elections, but if they don't reverse course in the next two years it's gonna be ugly in 2016. No chance at the presidency, they'll easily lose the Senate back, and they will only hang on to the House due to their control of state legislatures and gerrymandering (the Dems will get more total votes for D representatives).

 
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I honestly don't know which party should, after Cantor's loss, be more afraid about November.
Dems look to have a big turnout problem in November. Anything that encourages the Tea Party hurts them in 2014, and helps in 2016.

Two more years of "NO" and the same stupid schtick we've had in the last several years and Hillary may win in a landslide that has real coattails.

 
The Dems are in trouble in November and will lose seats, but I don't see the Republicans having a viable option against Clinton in 2016.

However, I do believe any deal on immigration is dead in the water as this sends a sure message that if you are for any sort of immigration reform, then you better rethink your position.

 
Yeah, I think we are witnessing the demise of the Republican Party as we know it. Either the party will change names or it might as well, and I think Koya's allegiance- swap to the Democrats goes along with it.
Oh let's get real. This is the exact same fight within the party that has been going on for 50 years. We now have a 'tea party' label that is being used by the wackos on the left to mock it. The GOP is missing good leadership. Bush Jr., McCain and Romney all sucked ash.
I agree, but it's devolved to the point of being ludicrous. There's no leadership at all and the party is falling apart.

 
Yeah, I think we are witnessing the demise of the Republican Party as we know it. Either the party will change names or it might as well, and I think Koya's allegiance- swap to the Democrats goes along with it.
Oh let's get real. This is the exact same fight within the party that has been going on for 50 years. We now have a 'tea party' label that is being used by the wackos on the left to mock it. The GOP is missing good leadership. Bush Jr., McCain and Romney all sucked ash.
I agree, but it's devolved to the point of being ludicrous. There's no leadership at all and the party is falling apart.
Agreed. The GOP is drifting further and further away from anything resembling a coherent, disciplined party.

 
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God help us if Hillary wins...
A 2nd term for Bill is the best thing that could happen.
Confused on this one. Bill already had two terms. I assume this was a joke suggesting that a Hillary presidency would be like another Bill term, and it should have said 3rd term?

 
Now that Ted Cruz is cleared to be a citizen who can run for prez, can we keep tabs on the birthers who end up supporting him?

I want to make sure we document the hypocrisy. If Obama had the exact same situation they'd be all over him like flies on ####.

 

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