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You'd expect partisans on either end of the ideological spectrum to be less fond of compromise than those in the middle. But as it turns out, compromise is basically a liberal value - 82 percent of consistent liberals prefer politicians who make compromises. Less than a third of consistent conservatives say the same.
Republicans have become a radical insurgency — ideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of their political opposition. The evidence of this asymmetry is overwhelming.
 
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Thad Cochran Wins Mississippi GOP Senate Runoff

Defeats Tea Party-Backed Challenger Chris McDaniel in Electoral Comeback

The defeat of Mr. McDaniel, who outpolled the senator in the state's June 3 primary, was a blow for the tea-party movement. It was the one Senate race where all the major national groups—including Club for Growth, Senate Conservatives Fund and FreedomWorks—had invested in the challenger. Club for Growth alone spent $3 million in Mississippi.

"This is your victory," Mr. Cochran told supporters. "What we have tonight is reflected as a consensus for more and better jobs for Mississippi workers."

Mr. McDaniel didn't concede and blasted Mr. Cochran's tactics of seeking support from Democrats.
:lmao:

 
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In another blow to the national tea-party movement, the Oklahoma GOP primary for the Senate seat being vacated by Tom Coburn was won by Rep. James Lankford, a member of the House GOP leadership whose principal challenger was tea-party-backed T.W. Shannon.
The GOP establishment also scored a victory in Colorado, where Rep. Bob Beauprez, the choice of the state's Republican establishment, won a primary to oppose Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper.
 
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So how long until McDaniel starts alleging voter fraud?

edit: Not long, apparently. :lmao:

Cochran’s strategy Tuesday was to expand the electorate by ginning up votes from voters who don’t typically participate in Republican primaries, including blacks and Democrats. Mississippi voting rules allow anyone to participate in a primary runoff.

But the tea party-backed McDaniel camp cried foul, sending in poll monitors and questioning the final outcome of the race.

The more than 200 supporters gathered in the Hattiesburg Lake Terrace Convention Center were just as angry as McDaniel about the loss to Cochran, which virtually assures the 76-year-old an easy win toward a seventh term in the general election.

They cheered his defiance and chanted “Write Chris In!” as he took the stage and calling out “It’s not over Chris” and “We’re not going with Thad.”

McDaniel supporters quickly moved to consider legal challenges based on reported voting irregularities.
 
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What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.

 
So how long until McDaniel starts alleging voter fraud?

edit: Not long, apparently. :lmao:

Cochran’s strategy Tuesday was to expand the electorate by ginning up votes from voters who don’t typically participate in Republican primaries, including blacks and Democrats. Mississippi voting rules allow anyone to participate in a primary runoff.

But the tea party-backed McDaniel camp cried foul, sending in poll monitors and questioning the final outcome of the race.

The more than 200 supporters gathered in the Hattiesburg Lake Terrace Convention Center were just as angry as McDaniel about the loss to Cochran, which virtually assures the 76-year-old an easy win toward a seventh term in the general election.

They cheered his defiance and chanted “Write Chris In!” as he took the stage and calling out “It’s not over Chris” and “We’re not going with Thad.”

McDaniel supporters quickly moved to consider legal challenges based on reported voting irregularities.
I watched the results county by county as they came in last night. I used to live in Mississippi and my in-laws still live there. There was increased votes on both sides. The fact McDaniel won last time woke up a lot of his less passionate support in the state to realize he was in danger. But the reach out to the African American community put him over the top. In the primary, Cochran won Hinds County (Jackson) by 5,000 votes. With one box left last night his margin in Hinds was over 11,000. That net 6,000 gain was almost his entire margin of victory. You could point to a lot of marginal gains for Cochran to make it up. If you looked county by county compared to the last election, Cochran gained 100 here and 200 there in the rural counties in the Mississippi Delta that is more heavily African American.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
If McDaniel had won, he may well have lost to Childers. Cochran isn't losing in the general. This is Mississippi after all. Essentially what Cochran did was widen the electorate. By doing that, you are getting the candidate more of the state prefers. When you fail to do so, you end up with situations like in Delaware where shoo-in Mike Castle lost to Christine O'Donnell and the DE seat was given away.

 
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What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
If McDaniel had won, he may well have lost to Childers. Cochran isn't losing in the general. This is Mississippi after all.
I never said McDaniel was a sure bet to win. However, 49.2% of the primary voters last night were sold out by a duplicitous career politician who libelously labeled their candidate of choice with any number false epithets while making nice with the competition across the aisle. If just half of those voters decide to stay home in the general election, Cochran is toast.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.
What I find most interesting is how you think Republican voters in Mississippi would actually pay attention to left-leaning media outlets.

 
Sorry, I've been in a news blackout and just wanted to check in to see how the resurgent Teabag Party did in any recent deep red state primaries.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.
What I find most interesting is how you think Republican voters in Mississippi would actually pay attention to left-leaning media outlets.
What? I'm talking about stuff like this which turned out Democrats to vote in a Republican primary.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
Not a Democrat but I do think the Republican Party is a mockery. That doesn't mean that I don't find the Tea Party even more ridiculous and frightening.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
Not a Democrat but I do think the Republican Party is a mockery. That doesn't mean that I don't find the Tea Party even more ridiculous and frightening.
From the comments section:

We effectively have a one party system where the establishment masquerades as two parties. Together they make up The Ruling Class and the differences between the parties is for the most part superficial. In the end the outcome is the same. We are now in one vehicle headed to the same destination. The only argument seems to be over who has the wheel and who sits in the rider's seat and how hard to push on the accelerator.
 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
If McDaniel had won, he may well have lost to Childers. Cochran isn't losing in the general. This is Mississippi after all.
I never said McDaniel was a sure bet to win. However, 49.2% of the primary voters last night were sold out by a duplicitous career politician who libelously labeled their candidate of choice with any number false epithets while making nice with the competition across the aisle. If just half of those voters decide to stay home in the general election, Cochran is toast.
Are you suggesting that McDaniel ran a clean campaign? His team trotted out the tried Tea Party method of grouping their challenger in with established Democrats to convince people they weren't real conservatives.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
Not a Democrat but I do think the Republican Party is a mockery. That doesn't mean that I don't find the Tea Party even more ridiculous and frightening.
From the comments section:

We effectively have a one party system where the establishment masquerades as two parties. Together they make up The Ruling Class and the differences between the parties is for the most part superficial. In the end the outcome is the same. We are now in one vehicle headed to the same destination. The only argument seems to be over who has the wheel and who sits in the rider's seat and how hard to push on the accelerator.
OK. But how does the Tea Party improve that? Being different just for the sake of different isn't really a compelling argument to earn support.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
Not a Democrat but I do think the Republican Party is a mockery. That doesn't mean that I don't find the Tea Party even more ridiculous and frightening.
From the comments section:

We effectively have a one party system where the establishment masquerades as two parties. Together they make up The Ruling Class and the differences between the parties is for the most part superficial. In the end the outcome is the same. We are now in one vehicle headed to the same destination. The only argument seems to be over who has the wheel and who sits in the rider's seat and how hard to push on the accelerator.
Yes, this is the Tea Party point of view. It's very much the same as the Occupy Wall Street point of view. Personally I find it wrong and dangerous, but it is growing larger.
 
OK. But how does the Tea Party improve that? Being different just for the sake of different isn't really a compelling argument to earn support.
Maybe not for you, but have you seen the approval ratings for Congress recently? I can think of worse campaigns to run than "I'm not one of them" (even when most still would be).

 
You'd expect partisans on either end of the ideological spectrum to be less fond of compromise than those in the middle. But as it turns out, compromise is basically a liberal value - 82 percent of consistent liberals prefer politicians who make compromises. Less than a third of consistent conservatives say the same.
Republicans have become a radical insurgency — ideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of their political opposition. The evidence of this asymmetry is overwhelming.
This is how compromise works

"we need $100"

compromise here's $50

a few months later

We want $100 and we're getting $50

compromise here's 75

compromise tends to be a myth and only a tactic to get as much as you can until the next negotiation window.

 
"Four legs good, two legs better."

It'll happen eventually but if the Tea Party rues the day others had power, the day they get power they will look the same as the others. What might they do different than the current power? Cloak and dagger.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
Not a Democrat but I do think the Republican Party is a mockery. That doesn't mean that I don't find the Tea Party even more ridiculous and frightening.
From the comments section:

We effectively have a one party system where the establishment masquerades as two parties. Together they make up The Ruling Class and the differences between the parties is for the most part superficial. In the end the outcome is the same. We are now in one vehicle headed to the same destination. The only argument seems to be over who has the wheel and who sits in the rider's seat and how hard to push on the accelerator.
OK. But how does the Tea Party improve that? Being different just for the sake of different isn't really a compelling argument to earn support.
Honestly, I don't think they Tea Party will ultimately succeed in improving anything. If anyone or anything tries to do anything to reverse or thwart Democrat/GOP power the establishment use all its resources to stomp it flat. Government will not be reduced in size, spending will not be cut, entitlements will not be eliminated, the Constitution will not be obeyed; nothing will slow down or change the course of the runaway train. The train will crash.

I do admire them for trying to change course though.

 
You'd expect partisans on either end of the ideological spectrum to be less fond of compromise than those in the middle. But as it turns out, compromise is basically a liberal value - 82 percent of consistent liberals prefer politicians who make compromises. Less than a third of consistent conservatives say the same.
Republicans have become a radical insurgency — ideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited policy regime, scornful of compromise, unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of their political opposition. The evidence of this asymmetry is overwhelming.
This is how compromise works

"we need $100"

compromise here's $50

a few months later

We want $100 and we're getting $50

compromise here's 75

compromise tends to be a myth and only a tactic to get as much as you can until the next negotiation window.
Sure. If you're just giving #### away and not getting something back in return.

Otherwise it's how non-insane people resolve their differences most of the time.

 
What I find most interesting is how for the media and Democrats the Republican Party is generally portrayed as evil incarnate full of rotten, old, white guys. But they just gleefully pulled out all the stops to support a 40-year GOP incumbent when the chips were down. It's all about the centralization of power in Washington, D.C. and the ends justify the means.

Cochran has cut off his nose to spite his face. The base is not going to turn out in the general election for somebody who actively recruits amongst the opposition in order to save his hide. It would not surprise me in the least to see the unthinkable happen and the Democrats pick up a Senate seat in Mississippi.
If McDaniel had won, he may well have lost to Childers. Cochran isn't losing in the general. This is Mississippi after all.
I never said McDaniel was a sure bet to win. However, 49.2% of the primary voters last night were sold out by a duplicitous career politician who libelously labeled their candidate of choice with any number false epithets while making nice with the competition across the aisle. If just half of those voters decide to stay home in the general election, Cochran is toast.
Why would half stay home? He didn't double his vote from the first election,that's simply not going to happen. The only way Cochran loses is if this ends up in court, just like the Alabama Gubernatorial election in the 80's between Baxley and Graddick. That centered on crossover primary voting and ended up with Alabama having it's first Republican governor since Reconstruction. Back in that time, a Democrat losing Alabama would be like a Republican losing today. I find it interesting you find Cochran libelous but no mention of McDaniel's people breaking into a nursing home to get pictures of Cochran's ailing wife.

 
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Most polls predicted McDaniel winning, though I understand that primary polls in southern states, especially Mississippi, have a poor track record of being right. McDaniel supporters felt entitled to win, and now that he lost they're pissed that they've lost something they believe they were entitled to..

Apparently Mississippi has a "no sore loser" type law which forbids McDaniel from running as an independent in the general election, so I think challenging ballots in the primary is his only shot. He and his supporters are angry enough to do it. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/chris-mcdaniel-declines-to-concede-108273.html

 
“As you know today, folks, there were literally dozens of irregularities reported all across this state,” McDaniel said. “You know why. You read the stories. You’re familiar with the problems that we have. Now it’s our job to make sure that the sanctity of the vote is upheld. Before this race ends, we have to be absolutely certain that the Republican primary was won by Republican voters."
Since Mississippi allows crossover voting in the primary (subject to certain restrictions I believe), it looks like McDaniel wants that retroactively changed so that any crossover primary votes from Democrats would be disallowed.

 
“As you know today, folks, there were literally dozens of irregularities reported all across this state,” McDaniel said. “You know why. You read the stories. You’re familiar with the problems that we have. Now it’s our job to make sure that the sanctity of the vote is upheld. Before this race ends, we have to be absolutely certain that the Republican primary was won by Republican voters."
Since Mississippi allows crossover voting in the primary (subject to certain restrictions I believe), it looks like McDaniel wants that retroactively changed so that any crossover primary votes from Democrats would be disallowed.
On NPR today, they said that eligible voters who did not cast a vote in the Democratic primary would be eligible to vote in this election. Assuming that is the actual law, seems like that would be easy enough to cross-check. I don't know if Mississippi proactively cross-checks whether voters in the run-off voted in the earlier primary for the opposite party. If they don't check it as voters come in, McDaniel may have a legitimate beef. If they do check (i.e. people who voted in the Dem primary are already crossed off the list), then it seems he's grasping at straws.

 
On NPR today, they said that eligible voters who did not cast a vote in the Democratic primary would be eligible to vote in this election. Assuming that is the actual law, seems like that would be easy enough to cross-check.
Yes, it does seem easy to check.

But if that doesn't eliminate enough votes for Cochran I'd expect wide tea party support (both vocal and financial) for McDaniel to launch any number of other challenges, however spurious.

Meanwhile it seems that McDaniel lost because Cochran's side flat outworked McDaniel's side after the primary. http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/cochran_camp_says_35000_dems_crossed_over_to_vote_for_the_incumbent.html



Before the primary, the committee had several dozen campaign workers on the ground knocking on doors for Cochran. For the runoff, 45 staff members and volunteers returned.
Targeting high-propensity Republican voters, they knocked on 50,000 doors between the two votes. From the basement of the NRSC, campaign workers placed 18,000 calls into Mississippi.


In Washington, a gang of senators dived back into the race. Just a week after the primary, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell headlined a fundraiser that raised more than $800,000 for Cochran. He told assembled supporters in no uncertain terms: “We are going to win it.”


Senators fired off big PAC checks to Cochran. Some worked the phones for him themselves, Wicker chief among them. NRSC senior staff, including executive director Rob Collins and finance director Heather Larison, squeezed every penny they could out of Washington for their embattled colleague. Haley Barbour, the former Mississippi governor, was dialing for runoff dollars as soon as the June 3 vote ended in a deadlock.


Most controversially – and perhaps most importantly –
the Mississippi super PAC formed to support Cochran’s reelection shifted its resources dramatically from television advertising to get-out-the-vote operations.
Depleted after an all-out effort ahead of June 3, the group went back to its biggest donors for more help. In one case, it secured a $100,000 check from Silicon Valley billionaire Sean Parker, on top of the quarter-million dollars the Napster co-founder had already given to the cause.


But
this time, the Mississippi Conservative PAC didn’t spend a dime on television or radio. Instead, the group – headed by Republican National Committeeman Henry Barbour –spent untold sums identifying and turning out longer-shot voters, including non-Republicans and African-Americans who were unlikely to have participated in the first vote.
 
On NPR today, they said that eligible voters who did not cast a vote in the Democratic primary would be eligible to vote in this election. Assuming that is the actual law, seems like that would be easy enough to cross-check.
Yes, it does seem easy to check.

But if that doesn't eliminate enough votes for Cochran I'd expect wide tea party support (both vocal and financial) for McDaniel to launch any number of other challenges, however spurious.

Meanwhile it seems that McDaniel lost because Cochran's side flat outworked McDaniel's side after the primary. http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/cochran_camp_says_35000_dems_crossed_over_to_vote_for_the_incumbent.html

Before the primary, the committee had several dozen campaign workers on the ground knocking on doors for Cochran. For the runoff, 45 staff members and volunteers returned. Targeting high-propensity Republican voters, they knocked on 50,000 doors between the two votes. From the basement of the NRSC, campaign workers placed 18,000 calls into Mississippi.

In Washington, a gang of senators dived back into the race. Just a week after the primary, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell headlined a fundraiser that raised more than $800,000 for Cochran. He told assembled supporters in no uncertain terms: “We are going to win it.”

Senators fired off big PAC checks to Cochran. Some worked the phones for him themselves, Wicker chief among them. NRSC senior staff, including executive director Rob Collins and finance director Heather Larison, squeezed every penny they could out of Washington for their embattled colleague. Haley Barbour, the former Mississippi governor, was dialing for runoff dollars as soon as the June 3 vote ended in a deadlock.

Most controversially – and perhaps most importantly – the Mississippi super PAC formed to support Cochran’s reelection shifted its resources dramatically from television advertising to get-out-the-vote operations. Depleted after an all-out effort ahead of June 3, the group went back to its biggest donors for more help. In one case, it secured a $100,000 check from Silicon Valley billionaire Sean Parker, on top of the quarter-million dollars the Napster co-founder had already given to the cause.

But this time, the Mississippi Conservative PAC didn’t spend a dime on television or radio. Instead, the group – headed by Republican National Committeeman Henry Barbour –spent untold sums identifying and turning out longer-shot voters, including non-Republicans and African-Americans who were unlikely to have participated in the first vote.
The focus for Cochran was kind of three pronged. First was to get out the more moderate Republicans to support him that tend to be in the Jackson suburbs. You can see that in the Madison Co results and somewhat in Hinds Co when looking at the initial primary versus the runoff results. Secondly he went after the unions, especially on the coast for the shipyards given that area was hit hard by Katrina. He used the federal relief money he brought home as a rallying point against McDaniel. He flipped one of the counties down there as a result. The third is the one all the tv pundits keep mentioning, the African Amercian vote. I'd guess 75% of his Hinds County gains were from that alone. Likely all 3 aided him turning this around. Not sure he gets it done without all 3.

 
It looks more an more like Cantor was an outlier, a guy rejected by his district for being uninterested in his district instead of the beginning of a wave of tea party victories.

And after conservative outsiders wreaked havoc on the GOP primary process in 2010 and ’12, this year’s primary season now seems destined to represent an empire-strikes-back moment for the Republican Party, as emboldened Washington party leaders finally clamp down to defend their favored candidates.

In Oklahoma’s Republican Senate primary, Rep. Jim Lankford bested former state House Speaker T.W. Shannon and a field of other challengers by a wide margin. A member of the House GOP leadership team, Lankford rolled over Shannon despite the support the state lawmaker earned from Sarah Palin, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and the Senate Conservatives Fund.

In Colorado, former Rep. Bob Beauprez won the GOP nomination for governor over his onetime House colleague Tom Tancredo, a flamboyant immigration hard-liner whose provocative views raised fears of a down-ticket meltdown among national Republicans.

In New York, a socially conservative primary challenger to Rep. Richard Hanna — one of the few Republican federal officials to support gay marriage — came up short. Elsewhere in the state, the handpicked candidates of national GOP strategists triumphed in congressional primaries on Long Island and upstate.

The outside groups that pumped millions into McDaniel’s campaign — as well as those of Shannon and New York Assemblywoman Claudia Tenney — were largely silent Tuesday night. They now face the embarrassing prospect that the one major challenger-versus-incumbent upset of the year, the Cantor primary in Virginia, unfolded without any significant investment from independent spenders on the right.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/primary-election-2014-108258.html

 
One of McDaniel's biggest financial backers admires Cochran's strategy of attracting votes.

“If you live and die in every election, you won’t last long in this business,” Chris Chocola, president of the conservative Club for Growth, said early Wednesday as he munched on a bagel with cream cheese.

It was the morning after six-term Sen. Thad Cochran (Miss.), to the surprise of many, turned back a Republican primary challenge from state Sen. Chris McDaniel, a favorite of the tea party movement and a candidate backed by the Club for Growth.

In the long campaign this spring that has pitted establishment and rebellious forces of the Republican Party in a series of primary contests, Mississippi was the biggest of all, a crushing defeat for the insurgents. And as disappointed as he was about McDaniel’s loss, Chocola couldn’t help but offer admiration for the victors.

“What they did in Mississippi just from a pure electoral standpoint is amazing,” he said of Cochran’s campaign and the work of the Mississippi establishment led by former governor Haley Barbour. “That was an accomplishment, to expand the electorate in a runoff by getting people to vote that are not your natural constituency. So you’ve got to give them credit for figuring out how to do that.”

Chocola’s organization had bet heavily on McDaniel, more so than any other outside group on either side. The club’s political action committee spent $3.1 million on behalf of McDaniel, $600,000 of it during the three-week runoff campaign. The group also bundled an additional $400,000 in direct contributions from individuals to McDaniel’s campaign.
 
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/dailyledes/2014/06/26/national-support-leaves-mcdaniel/11402881/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

While Cochran's campaign picked up the pace and changed strategies, McDaniel's campaign never seemed to reach the velocity it had heading into the primary election. McDaniel was understandably shell-shocked Tuesday. His non-concession speech was red meat for his supporters, but it played poorly on the national scene where most were quickly agreeing that this election was over.

FreedomWorks and the Tea Party Express issued statements that night acknowledging the race was done. The next morning, Club for Growth bid farewell to the Mississippi Republican primary for Senate, followed shortly by the Senate Conservatives Fund. By the end of the day, the Tea Party Patriots — arguably the most emotionally invested of any outside group — had issued their statement and moved on.

Even Sen. Ted Cruz on Wednesday congratulated "Thad" on his victory.
 
“An intensive strategy over the past three weeks to draw black voters to the polls and spare Cochran from what once seemed like a certain defeat at the hands of a tea party challenger in Tuesday’s GOP runoff appears to have worked.” Rather than take notes, the far right is incensed, calling all that voting “irregular”:

Cochran and other Mississippi Republicans have long sought to lure at least a portion of black voters in general-election campaigns. African Americans make up more than a third of the state’s electorate. The push to draw blacks to the polls in a Republican primary was highly unusual. It appears to have been orchestrated largely by pro-Republican groups aligned with Cochran and groups connected to black political leaders and ministers.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/227500615/Cochran-ad-in-Mississippi-LinkAds
http://www.scribd.com/doc/227500615/Cochran-ad-in-Mississippi-Linkthat ran in African American newspapers stressed Cochran’s support for historically black colleges, a medical facility that serves a heavily minority community in Jackson and the farm bill, which includes food-stamp funding.
This is cause for outrage on the right? Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been trying for months to court African American voters and to his credit applauded the idea of going out to get more votes. The Republican National Committee should encourage candidates in other states to duplicate the Cochran model. Hey, Republicans might actually gain new adherents.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/06/26/chris-mcdaniels-loss-in-mississippi-brings-out-the-worst-on-the-far-right/

 
McDaniel doesn't like the Mississippi rule that allows crossover voting in the primaries. But he did nothing to change the rule prior to the election and runoff.

McDaniel is a Republican politician who has served as a member of the Mississippi Senate since 2008.He is Vice-Chairman of Oil, Gas and Other Minerals Committee and a member of numerous other committees, including Education; Elections; Appropriations; Judiciary, Division A; Public Health and Welfare; Wildlife; Fisheries and Parks.[citation needed]

In 2012, during his second term, he served as a member of Elections (Chair); Judiciary, Division B (Vice-Chair); Appropriations; Compilation; Revision and Publication; Congressional Redistricting (Vice-Chair);Constitution;Drug Policy; Energy; Legislative Reapportionment; Municipalities; and Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks. He was also Chairman of the Appropriations Subcommittee for the Department of Mental Health, Chairman on the Appropriations Subcommittee for the Department of Rehabilitation Services, and Chairman on the Appropriations Subcommittee for the Department of Human Services.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McDaniel

 
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/27/mark-mayfield-dead/11456769/

Sources: Miss. tea party leader Mayfield dead of apparent suicide
So when does the Grisham novel come out?
It does sound like something he could work with for sure
The further along this goes the more nutty McDaniel and his inner group appear. He's not another Rand Paul. McDaniel keeps fanning the flames on his social media pages. I wouldn't be surprised if more gunshots ring out from this group.

 
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http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/27/mark-mayfield-dead/11456769/

Sources: Miss. tea party leader Mayfield dead of apparent suicide
So when does the Grisham novel come out?
It does sound like something he could work with for sure
The further along this goes the more nutty McDaniel and his inner group appear. He's not another Rand Paul. McDaniel keeps fanning the flames on his social media pages. I wouldn't be surprised if more gunshots ring out from this group.
They do seem very nutty. And very, very angry. They're blaming the suicide on the (part of the) Republican party (supporting Cochran). http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/mark-mayfield-chris-mcdaniel-aide-108395.html

Pat Bruce, president of the Madison County Conservative Coalition, told the Clarion-Ledger that Mayfield was the finest man she knew.

“They killed him,” she told the paper. “They sent a SWAT team to his office, six officers, just to arrest him.”
“A good man is gone today [because] of a campaign to destroy lives,” Keith Plunkett, a Mississippi GOP operative, tweeted. “To all ‘so called’ Republican leaders who joined lockstep: I WILL NOT REST!”
 
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/27/mark-mayfield-dead/11456769/

Sources: Miss. tea party leader Mayfield dead of apparent suicide
So when does the Grisham novel come out?
It does sound like something he could work with for sure
The further along this goes the more nutty McDaniel and his inner group appear. He's not another Rand Paul. McDaniel keeps fanning the flames on his social media pages. I wouldn't be surprised if more gunshots ring out from this group.
They do seem very nutty. And very, very angry. They're blaming the suicide on the (part of the) Republican party (supporting Cochran). http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/mark-mayfield-chris-mcdaniel-aide-108395.html

Pat Bruce, president of the Madison County Conservative Coalition, told the Clarion-Ledger that Mayfield was the finest man she knew.

“They killed him,” she told the paper. “They sent a SWAT team to his office, six officers, just to arrest him.”
“A good man is gone today [because] of a campaign to destroy lives,” Keith Plunkett, a Mississippi GOP operative, tweeted. “To all ‘so called’ Republican leaders who joined lockstep: I WILL NOT REST!”
Lol, Mayfield was such a piece of ####. Good riddance.

 
From a tea party group near me, on the front page of their website.

Foreigners

I've not had much love in my heart for foreigners who come to my country and expect me to respect the very culture they supposedly fled. Allow me to remind you of a story I shouted from the mountain tops a few years ago.

In November 1997, there was a Latino conference in Venezuela where they called for the downfall of the United States from within. Their marching orders were to overrun neighborhoods with crime and a whole boat load of people living in the same house who were tasked with the destruction of the beauty of the neighborhood and forcing out the white folks. Then, get yourselves elected to local government and work your way up to state levels and that's where they can do the most damage.

How, you ask? We don't have to look any further than Montgomery and Prince George's counties where two MD state legislators, foreigners from El Savador, have continually submitted legislation that prohibits law enforcement from participating in ICE programs (287g) that can deport illegals when arrested for a crime. These two, STATE SENATOR VICTOR RAMIREZ (D-PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY) AND DELEGATE ANA SOL GUTIERREZ (D -MONTGOMERY COUNTY)are responsible for 90% of the pro-illegal legislation that passes through Annapolis.
 
Regarding Tea Party. I think that their basic mantra is:

Smaller government

capitalism

lower taxes

Follow the constitution

term limits

This apparently is very extreme????? I guess I don't get it.

 
Regarding Tea Party. I think that their basic mantra is:

Smaller government

capitalism

lower taxes

Follow the constitution

term limits

This apparently is very extreme????? I guess I don't get it.
yeah, me neither. In all reality, they're called extreme simply because they aren't Democrats.

 
Regarding Tea Party. I think that their basic mantra is:

Smaller government

capitalism

lower taxes

Follow the constitution

term limits

This apparently is very extreme????? I guess I don't get it.
yeah, me neither. In all reality, they're called extreme simply because they aren't Democrats.
Most of these positions aren't extreme in theory. They become extreme in practice when you attempt to adhere to them so strictly regardless of practical consequences and you refuse all attempts at political compromise, which is the only way to accomplish anything in Washington.
 
Regarding Tea Party. I think that their basic mantra is:

Smaller government

capitalism

lower taxes

Follow the constitution

term limits

This apparently is very extreme????? I guess I don't get it.
yeah, me neither. In all reality, they're called extreme simply because they aren't Democrats.
Most of these positions aren't extreme in theory. They become extreme in practice when you attempt to adhere to them so strictly regardless of practical consequences and you refuse all attempts at political compromise, which is the only way to accomplish anything in Washington.
Very good answer. I still wonder why the Dem's & the "good old boys" in the Republican party demonize them so much. Racist, idiots, simpletons, extremists, et al. Are they indeed afraid of a ground swell from ordinary people?

 
Regarding Tea Party. I think that their basic mantra is:

Smaller government

capitalism

lower taxes

Follow the constitution

term limits

This apparently is very extreme????? I guess I don't get it.
I'm all for this. I'm on record here as such. I'm against breaking into nursing homes to take pictures of someone's wife you are running against. I'm also against trying to interject the government into the bedrooms and private lives of citizens. It's amazing to me how many who claim to be conservative want more government involvement on social issues. I like Rand Paul, I don't like Chris McDaniel. Have a good look at the actions of people surrounding him.

 

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