The TO Cowboy ERA has begun (1 Viewer)

[Prime]

I'm mildly surprised to see that Cowboy fans are so uniformly willing to whore their allegiance for a chance at a playoff run.

Why is signing a head case whoring their allegiance?

It's not, really. It's a calculated risk. Every team has signed players previously-disliked by their fans or players. Owens is just high-profile, so the dislike is more widespread than with most others.I think he'll behave OK until either

it becomes clear the Cowboys are falling out of the playoff hunt

or

next year, which probably doesn't start with as big a bonus as this year

And then I think we'll see the same old disruption. I don't think he's got the ability to control himself when he isn't getting what he wants.

You know, you're are probably the only Redskin fan I have ever seen who can offer a unbiased opinion on the Cowboys. I mean you throw some jabs out there once in awhile, but thats all in good fun. I already said how I feel about winning a Super Bowl with him. I won't however chear for HIM, and you'll never catch me in a Owens Jersey. Now if he stays all three years, and changes his ways, I will reconsider.

NOBODY on Gods Green Earth can honestly think this will happen.

 

[JAA]

I'm mildly surprised to see that Cowboy fans are so uniformly willing to whore their allegiance for a chance at a playoff run.

Why is signing a head case whoring their allegiance?

Because uniformly they all condemned him for his star antics and for his antics at Philly. When you have judged someone a worthless whore that judgment should not change just because it now accepts your money. If you don't see that they have sold something that's fine. Seems many nowadays claim to observe sports without passion. They advocate it's nothing more than a business. Maybe. The problem with that is that's not true. The central place sport occupies in our lives is testified to by the sports page, ESPN, the stadium in your local town, and perhaps even jerseys in your closet. You are here talking sport. Likely then you have passion. That passion came from admiration and respect for tradition for most of us, not from observing a business. (I doubt anyone here has an IBM jersey in the closet) The 'Boys just exchanged part of their lore for a whore. The fans who embrace that are whores themselves IMO.

So what I am hearing you say is that you are totally against FA. Such that any player that has played passionately against your team should never come and play for your team.Does this mean the Giants are also whoring themselves out with bringing in Arrington?

 

[JAA]

I'm mildly surprised to see that Cowboy fans are so uniformly willing to whore their allegiance for a chance at a playoff run.

Why is signing a head case whoring their allegiance?

I suppose because he played for a rival/disrespected their logo. I don't know. If you restrict your team to players that haven't beat you/played well against you/played for a hated rival, you really restrict your team's movement in FA.

There is in my mind a difference between merely accepting in free agency those who change uniforms, and embracing those who were not just rivals, but who tried to turn the business personal. In my mind it doesn't go both ways. You can't attempt to make something personal and then say it never happened.

Yes you can, it happens all the time in the business world. The NFL is a business, even for the players. Maybe this is the point you are missing. Possibly that you want the NFL to be more personal than professional.

 

[20633]

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Who cares...its late Friday and most posting is being done under the influence. You can police the Honda threads after the weekend big Bri.

 

[Bri]

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Who cares...its late Friday and most posting is being done under the influence. You can police the Honda threads after the weekend big Bri.

move on, I already replied to that and jumped in here. What more do ya want from me

 

[20633]

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Who cares...its late Friday and most posting is being done under the influence. You can police the Honda threads after the weekend big Bri.

move on, I already replied to that and jumped in here. What more do ya want from me

then.

I didn't realize how many responses the thread already had

 

[RKMoney]

What's ironic is that while WR stars tends to get the most pub, that's a position that's least important to winning a SB.

Cough *Fred Biletnikoff Lynn Swann Jerry Rice Deion Branch Hines Ward Desmond Howard* Cough

Interesting post here.If you had a choice of replacing one of each of these pairs with a league average backup, which would you replace?

1974-75: Terry Bradshaw/Lynn Swann

1976: Ken Stabler/Fred Biletnikoff

1984: Joe Montana/Jerry Rice

1988-89: Joe Montana/Jerry Rice

1996: Brett Favre/Desmond Howard

2001,03-04: Tom Brady/Deion Branch

2005: Ben R/Hines Ward

And what does that have anything to do with my post? I never said QB's aren't important to win a SB. I said that WR position is the least important, while they tend to garnish the most pub, in winning a SB. Ward wasn't the reason why PIT won the SB.

 

[RKMoney]

When has TO improved and made a team better then?

philly

More importantly, if TO is so great, why is he playing on this 10th team? Unless I'm mistaken, why would a team let someone go who wins games for them?

he costs truckloads of $ and that's not cap friendly(devil's advocate)

Phil won w/o TO before and after his injury. Remember, they got to the SB without him down the stretch. Remember?

 

[RKMoney]

I guess I am not with you. I am thrilled to have him in Big D. Is he a psycho? Yep, but if by some miracle he doesn't disrupt the team I believe he is the player that could take my Cowboys deep into the playoffs.

I can live with that risk.

Go Cowboys!

TO has never made a team better though. He puts up great numbers but remember PHIL got into the playoffs and the SB w/o him. I only see TO hurting the Cowboys here but then again he was probably signed on to increase ticket sales...

I thought the Boys were one of the many teams that quickly sell out

Sadly, that can be said for just about every team in the NFL. What's even more sad is that you don't even need a WR like TO or Moss to win a SB so why waste money on a position where you'll only get headaches and won't make you a better team?

 

[RKMoney]

Gotta love this train reck of mass proportions....who is with me on this?

Please tell me you are not an Eagles fan who has been forced to

But TO @ PHIL should prove what I've been saying. When he got hurt people thought there was no way they could be better. Next thing you know they are in the SB. Care to name their starting WRs down the stretch that got them there?

 

[RKMoney]

Then again, I'll take this thread back if TO scores a TD then runs out to the Dallas Star and speads his arms out....will Cowboy fans like that?

Just for reference.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

What's ironic is that while WR stars tends to get the most pub, that's a position that's least important to winning a SB.

Cough *Fred Biletnikoff Lynn Swann Jerry Rice Deion Branch Hines Ward Desmond Howard* Cough

Interesting post here.If you had a choice of replacing one of each of these pairs with a league average backup, which would you replace?

1974-75: Terry Bradshaw/Lynn Swann

1976: Ken Stabler/Fred Biletnikoff

1984: Joe Montana/Jerry Rice

1988-89: Joe Montana/Jerry Rice

1996: Brett Favre/Desmond Howard

2001,03-04: Tom Brady/Deion Branch

2005: Ben R/Hines Ward

And what does that have anything to do with my post? I never said QB's aren't important to win a SB. I said that WR position is the least important, while they tend to garnish the most pub, in winning a SB. Ward wasn't the reason why PIT won the SB.

I don't recall disagreeing with you.

 

[Purpulhippo999]

I guess I am not with you. I am thrilled to have him in Big D. Is he a psycho? Yep, but if by some miracle he doesn't disrupt the team I believe he is the player that could take my Cowboys deep into the playoffs.

I can live with that risk.

Go Cowboys!

TO has never made a team better though. He puts up great numbers but remember PHIL got into the playoffs and the SB w/o him

nope, without him they didnt get therethey got into the SB the year he came and he beasted the league 14 TDS eagles record and the next year he was on pace to break it

 

[Bri]

I guess I am not with you. I am thrilled to have him in Big D. Is he a psycho? Yep, but if by some miracle he doesn't disrupt the team I believe he is the player that could take my Cowboys deep into the playoffs.

I can live with that risk.

Go Cowboys!

TO has never made a team better though. He puts up great numbers but remember PHIL got into the playoffs and the SB w/o him. I only see TO hurting the Cowboys here but then again he was probably signed on to increase ticket sales...

I thought the Boys were one of the many teams that quickly sell out

Sadly, that can be said for just about every team in the NFL. What's even more sad is that you don't even need a WR like TO or Moss to win a SB so why waste money on a position where you'll only get headaches and won't make you a better team?

then how can he "quickly increase ticket sales"?

 

[Bri]

When has TO improved and made a team better then?

philly

More importantly, if TO is so great, why is he playing on this 10th team? Unless I'm mistaken, why would a team let someone go who wins games for them?

he costs truckloads of $ and that's not cap friendly(devil's advocate)

Phil won w/o TO before and after his injury. Remember, they got to the SB without him down the stretch. Remember?

yeah I remember a not so hot NFC that year or maybe Philly was so much better they made it seem that way. Not sure, but I felt the Eagles had an easy playoff sched and I "never" feel the playoffs are easy. IIRC the AFC had 6 of the top 7 teamsETA I guess the Falcs were a good team but I'm thinking the top 7(in no order) were the Steelers, Colts, Pats, Eagles, Chargers(12-4), Broncos, and Jets

NFC teams above .500-

Eagles mentioned same with Falcs.

Favre's Pack and Hawks were just eh for me in 04. Rest of NFC .500 or less