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***The Unofficial*** 2012 Miami Dolphins Season Thread (1 Viewer)

'Slapdash said:
'=Smackdown= said:
I don't really like the end results of the picks we got for the Marshall trade either but calling him one of the best young WR's in the game is a bit of a stretch.5 picks in the first 3 rounds of the next draft - they really need to find some impact offensive players to help Tannehill.
I'm not too upset about the Marshall deal anymore. The Dolphins have a lot of early picks and a good cap situation. I don't see any reason not to grab one of Jennings/Wallace/Harvin AND use the 12 on a top WR.
We are finally in agreement Slap.This is a HUGE draft for the Dolphins. I just hope they don't let Long walk and then draft another OLineman with the #12 pick. I'm not opposed to letting Long walk - I am opposed to taking another Olineman that high in the draft . . . . AGAIN.
 
'=Smackdown= said:
I don't really like the end results of the picks we got for the Marshall trade either but calling him one of the best young WR's in the game is a bit of a stretch.

5 picks in the first 3 rounds of the next draft - they really need to find some impact offensive players to help Tannehill.
We differ in opinion there.118 receptions, 1500+ yards and 11 TDs in his first year in a new offense. Those numbers are pretty rock-star quality in my opinion. How many WRs in the NFL today have seasons like that under their belts? I dont know the answer, but I doubt that there are any that would not be considered great WRs. And its not like he is playing with a top 10 NFL QB in a top offense either (even if he was, those numbers are awesome). The only sub-par seasons Marshall has had were in Miami. I dont know if you were disputing the "young" portion of the statement. If so, I can see that, but 28 is certainly not old for the WR position.

That aside, I looked at our 2012 draft again, and with the exception of the apparently wasted pick on Egnew, the draft was actually pretty solid (Tannehill, Jonathan Martin, Vernon, Lamar Miller, Rishard Matthews all look like contributors to the re-re-rebuild).

 
Still caught 118 passes, and has caught over 100 3 other times (not as a rookie, and the 2 years in Miami). T.O. used to drop a lot of passes too. You get enough targets, you are bound to drop some.That said, I remember all the drops in Miami too. A bunch were in the end zone. Extremely frustrating. He is still one of the best young WRs in the NFL though, and now seems to be behaving himself. There are only a handful of WRs I would rather have on my team over a well behaved Marshall. Calvin, AJ, Julio, Harvin...nobody else really jumps out.

 
Good overview of the Fins offseason situation: http://www.thephinsider.com/2013/1/7/3829236/nfl-draft-2013-miami-dolphins-rumors-free-agents-jake-long-reggie-bush-sean-smith

Miami's 2013 Roster (So Far) and NeedsFormat: "Player name" (Salary Cap Hit in 2013, years left on current contract).This information current as of 1/6/2013. All contract figures from http://www.Rotoworld.com.Most cap figures have been rounded up to the nearest thousand or hundred of thousand for simplicity and were retrieved from http://nyjetscap.com/Dolphins/dolphins2013.php(*) = Second position a player has been listed atOffense (22 players)Quarterback:1. Ryan Tannehill ($2.8 million cap hit in 2013, 3 years left)Matt Moore is an unrestricted free agent (UFA), whose goal is to find a team willing to give him a chance to start. If he is unable to find a team with an open QB competition, he reportedly would like to remain in Miami as a backup. Pat Devlin is not under contract next year, but he is an Exclusive Rights Free Agent."An Exclusive-Rights Free Agent is an NFL player who is not under contract, but has only two years of NFL experience. If his former club makes him an offer at the three year veteran minimum salary, then that's it, he has to take it or leave the NFL. These guys have no right to negotiate with other teams."(Source: http://football.calsci.com/FreeAgency.html).Miami will most likely make that offer to Devlin, who is a favorite of Coach Philbin. Devlin improved to the point of becoming a viable third-string quarterback this season after being on the 2011 Dolphins practice squad in his rookie season. Whether he's a viable second-string quarterback or not is unknown and will play a role in whether Miami signs a veteran QB like Moore or drafts a backup QB in the later rounds of the 2013 draft.Running back 1. Daniel Thomas ($880,000 cap hit in 2013, 2 years left)2. Lamar Miller ($602,000, 3 years)3. Marcus Thigpen ($483,000, 2 years) - he's listed here at running back, but on offense, he's been almost exclusively used as a slot receiver in 20124. Jonas Gray ($482,000, 2 years)Reggie Bush is an UFA. Reportedly, the Dolphins want to bring back Reggie Bush if he's willing to take a discount.Fullback1. Jorvorskie Lane ($480,000, 2 years)2. Charles Clay ($583,000, 2 years)Miami has 2 players who can play fullback, so it's doubtful Miami addresses this position.Tight End 1. Charles Clay (*)2. Michael Egnew ($652,000, 3 years)3. Kyle Miller ($480,000, 2 years)Anthony Fasano is an UFA who is well liked by the coaching staff.Jeron Mastrud is a restricted free agent (RFA) backup who is used as a blocker and special-teamer. Mastrud may not be re-signed if the team prefers the other younger TEs on the roster.Wide receiver1. Davone Bess ($3.4 million, 1 year)2. Rishard Matthews ($493,000, 3 years)3. Armon Binns ($480,000, 1 year)4. Brian Tyms (Practice squad, $405,000, 2 years)5. Jeff Fuller (Practice squad, $405,000, 2 years)Brian Hartline is an URA likely to be re-signed unless the team pursues upgrades in free agency. Marlon Moore is a RFA who can serve as a backup wide receiver and special teams ace, so I would expect him to be back next year on a modest deal.Offensive Tackle1. Jonathan Martin ($1.1 million, 3 years)2. Will Yeatman ($555,000, 1 year)3. Andrew MacDonald (Practice squad, $405,000, 2 years)4. Jeff Adams (Practice squad, $405,000, 2 years)Jake Long is an URA whose fate is a hot-debate topic. Will Yeatman is under contract for 1 more year but is a big unknown. We know the coaching staff was so high on Yeatman's potential after asking him to change positions from tight end to offensive tackle that they kept him on the roster rather than risk leaving him on the practice squad where he could be poached. However, he has played offensive tackle for less than a year, which means we don't know how ready he'd be to play either as a backup OT or a starter next year.Offensive Guard1. Ritchie Incognito ($5.4 million, 1 year)2. John Jerry ($790,000, 1 year)Nate Garner is an UFA backup OG/OT. With both of the Dolphins' starting guards entering the last year of their deals, Miami may want to draft a backup guard in 2013 with starting potential rather than keep a career backup like Garner who is getting paid $1+ million per year.Center 1. Mike Pouncey ($2.5 million, 2 years)2. Josh Samuda ($482,000, 2 years)Miami has a terrific young center and a young backup center the coaches are high on. Center and Fullback are the ONLY positions on offense where I have no complaints/worries.Martin's List of Possible Offseason Needs (8): 1. Backup QB to compete with Devlin, 2. Running back (starter or backup), 3. Tight end (starter or backup), 4, 5, 6. Wide receiver (3 total: 2 starters, 1 backup), 7. Offensive tackle (starter at either left or right tackle), 8. Offensive guard (starter or backup). Simply bringing back all of our impending free agents like Long, Bush, and Hartline would not be enough to fill those 8 needs, so expect investments in outside free agents and the draft to improve the offense.Defense (21)Defensive Tackle 1. Paul Soliai ($7.8 million, 1 year)2. Jared Odrick ($1.9 million, 2 years)3. Kheeston Randall ($495,000, 3 years)4. Chas Alecxih (Practice squad, $405,000, 2 years)Randy Starks is an UFA. Tony McDaniel is an UFA. I doubt Miami keeps both free agent tackles. Miami likely chooses 1, and either asks Odrick slide over to tackle more or drafts a new tackle. I think it's more likely Odrick spends more time at tackle next year.Defensive End1. Cameron Wake ($5.0 million, 4 years), 2. Jared Odrick (*)3. Olivier Vernon ($670,000, 3 years)4. Derrick Shelby ($482,000, 2 years)Moving to Odrick to tackle would force Miami to acquire a new defensive end to have a 4-man rotation. That new defensive end could compete with Olivier Vernon for the starting role next year.Linebackers 1. Karlos Dansby ($8.5 million, 2 years)2. Kevin Burnett ($5.7 million, 2 years)3. Koa Misi ($1.1 million, 1 year)4. Jason Trusnik ($900,000, 2 years)5. Josh Kaddu ($480,000, 1 year)6. Jonathan Freeny ($480,000, 1 year)Austin Spitler, a backup linebacker and special teamer, is a RFA who may not be brought back in 2013 given the young linebacker depth under contract. The player who stands out here is Dansby due to his cap hit, but I'm not sure if now is the time to replace Dansby with so many other needs that have to be addressed. I'll be writing an article about the fate of Dansby and his large contract soon.Safety 1. Reshad Jones ($615,000, 1 year)2. Jimmy Wilson ($566,000, 2 years)3. Kelcie McCray ($407,000, 2 years)Chris Clemons is an UFA who will probably be brought back unless the team tries to find an upgrade.Tyrone Culver is an UFA who probably won't be back next year given that he was initially cut before the regular season began and was later signed mid-season for depth after injuries.Jonathan Amaya is a special teamer who is an UFA and may not be back next year, given his legal problems (He allegedly choked a cab driver).Cornerback 1. Dimitri Patterson ($4.6 million, 2 years)2. Richard Marshall ($5.8 million, 2 years)3. Nolan Carroll ($622,000, 1 year)4. Jimmy Wilson (*)5. Julian Posey (Practice squad, $480,000, 2 years)6. DeAndre Pressley (Practice squad, $480,000, 2 years)Sean Smith is an UFA. R.J. Stanford and Bryan McCann are impending RFAs. Dimitri Patterson, a late-season waiver-wire pickup from the Browns, is technically under contract for $4.5 million in 2013 and $5.3 million in 2014, but he's a top target to be cut to free up cap room because his pay outweighs his perofrmance. If the coaches like Patterson, Miami would likely seek to negotiate a less lucrative deal.Martin's List of Possible Needs (6):1. Defensive tackle (starter or backup), 2. Defensive end (starter or backup), 3. Starting safety,4. Starting cornerback, 5. Backup cornerback (At least 1), and 6. Backup linebacker. Simply re-signing most of our impending free agents (Starks, Clemons, and Smith) would satisfy half of these needs if Miami chooses not to pursue upgrades.Special Teams (3)Punter - Brandon Fields ($1.7 million, 4 years)After center, punter is the position I feel most confident in.Long-snapper - John Denney ($1.0 million, 1 year) The lone blemish for Denney came in the 49'ers game, in which he was guilty of a low-snap. Some will debate cutting Denney and using a player like TE Kyle Miller, who was a long-snapper in college, as our primary long-snapper. I would prefer keeping Denney, and using Miller as a reliable backup/emergency long-snapper. Ask Oakland Raiders fans about the importance of a reliable backup long-snapper (or read here).Kicker - Dan Carpenter ($3 million, 1 year)He has been perfect under 45 yards. Beyond 45 yards, he's struggled. I personally wouldn't list kicker as a priority need because the team is unlikely to find a kicker who is reliable beyond 45 yards (which is Carpenter's only issue), but I'd understand if some fans chose to list this as a need.Kick-returner/Punt-returner - Marcus Thigpen (*)Top 5 in the AFC in kick/punt return average. 2 TDs scored this season. Only 1 big mistake - 1 awful fumble against the 49'ers - but otherwise has played very well as a rookieMartin's List of Possible Needs: None...though kicker is debatable.Final summation - 46 players under contract, with projected cap commitment of $78 million.Miami's Resources in the 2013 Offseason2013 Draft - 9 guaranteed draft picks, up to 10 Draft picks totalRound 1 - 1 pick: Miami, 12th Round 2 - 2 picks: Miami, 42nd + Indianapolis (Vontae Davis trade), 54th pick Round 3 - 2 picks: Miami, 77th + Chicago (Brandon Marshall trade), 82nd Round 4 - 1 pick: Miami, Exact Number of Pick To Be Determined due to unknown number of compensatory picks at the ends of rounds 3-7Round 5 - 1 pick: Miami, Exact Number TBDRound 6 - No pick: The Dolphins traded away their own 6th round pick to move up and draft Lamar Miller in 2012Round 7 - 2 picks: Miami + Dallas (Ryan Cook trade), Exact Number TBDFinal potential pick - Compensatory draft pick of unknown round, awarded by the NFL.Miami lost DE/DT Kendall Langford in free agency in the 2012 offseason. The NFL awards "compensatory" draft picks to teams based on a secret formula that balances the "quality and quantity" of free agents lost versus the "quality and quantity" of free agents gained during the offseason. Langford has played well for the St. Louis Rams and hasn't missed a single game, while Miami's only notable free agent signings in 2012 included Richard Marshall (who landed on IR after playing in just 4 games), Legedu Naanee (who was cut from the team after 4 games and just 1 catch), Chad Johnson (cut in preseason), and Jabar Gaffney (who was cut from the team after 4 catches in 3 games). My guess is the NFL awards Miami a 6th round pick, but that's a guess and could be anything from a 3rd round pick to a 7th round pick. Read more about how Compensatory draft picks work and their relationship to free agency here.Vontae Davis Trade Result - In addition to a second round pick, Miami had a conditional 6th round pick as part of the Vontae Davis trade, but Davis failed to play the required 65% of snaps due to injury (per Adam Schefter, read here). That means Davis failed to meet the conditions of the deal, and the Dolphins do not get a 6th round pick from Indianapolis.Projected Cap Space in 2013This year's salary cap in the NFL is $120.6 million. The salary cap number for 2014 is unannounced, but it's rumored to be very similar to 2012.$121 million in projected 2013 cap space - $78 million of total salary so far = Roughly $43.0 million That $43 million is lower than the number some beat reporters have used in recent articles (most have said $46 million), but Miami signed 3 million dollars-worth of cap commitments in 2013 in the past week by re-signing their practice squad guys to 2-year deals.[Editor's Note: The Dolphins will also be able to roll over around $5-6 million in salary cap space that they did not use this year. ]Miami began the 2012 season with around $6 million in cap space that can be rolled over in 2013. I think the team will likely want to leave $5 million or so in free cap space each season to give the team some in-season flexibility, so it's safe to talk about $43-44 million in cap space the team will look to spend since spending that much leaves Miami a very modest $5 million cushion. That $44 million in available cap space can be increased if the team considers cutting expensive players under contract like Dimitri Patterson.However, as you saw above, this $44 million figure is misleading because it only includes 46 players, and some of those 46 players are guys who are likely practice-squad material (Fuller, Alexcih, MacDonald, etc.). Also, that number does not include the money needed to sign the 10 drafted rookies in the 2013 offseason. To be safe, let's say signing the rookies costs $4 million against the cap, even though in 2012, it cost only $2.4 million against the cap during the offseason. That low number is due to the special rules that apply to calculating the salary cap number of rosters during the offseason before final cuts (read more here.) That leaves Miami around $40 million to find players in free agency.While the list of needs looks long, Miami will have 9 or 10 draft picks and over $40 million in "spare" cap space to fill those 14 needs. In a follow-up post, I will go over Miami's impending free agents in greater detail, and try to give price range estimates of what it would cost keep them based on recent free agent deals awarded to players of similar talent and production. Hopefully, this article serves as a rough guide to come up with your own list of needs.
 
January 14, 2013Dolphins to make stadium upgrade case Monday The Dolphins Monday plan their grand unveiling of a plan to make between $350-$400 million worth of upgrades to Sun Life Stadium to, as the team claims, make the facility a first-class place for the next 30 years.The Dolphins are calling this "a modernization" of the facility that opened in 1987.And here's an unexpected kicker: Ross is prepared to pay for "substantially all" of the freight of this modernization as long as his government partners begin helping him with the cost of running the facility. This according to a source familiar with the Dolphins' thinking.That's a big deal.But despite this, the team faces an uphill battle. Local sentiment runs very much against using tax dollars to upgade or update private sports facilities -- particularly in the wake of the Marlins deal with Miami-Dade County and the City of Miami, which proved to be frought with broken promises and misdirection.The Dolphins privately claim they are not the Marlins. Not even close.Today, in fact, they will call themselves "a different kind of fish," while not publicly naming the Marlins.Privately, they make the point they are going to put up a significant portion of the price tag themselves. Even If Ross doesn't get the lease concessions from the politicians, he's willing to pay between $150-$175 million, although that pricetag would have to be negotiated out. In that scenario, the club believes that with owner Stephen Ross is putting up approximately 40-50 percent of the cost to improve the facility, local politicians will still see this as a palatable partnership.There's also this: The tax dollars aren't coming out of the pockets of local taxpayers. The public side of the funding in the deal is expected to come from a hotel bed tax. The Dolphins will ask local politicians to raise the tax tourists pay for staying at local hotels. The Dolphins will argue that none of these funds take money out of city or county coffers that are used to pay for teachers or schools or cops or firemen. Hotel bed tax money is slated exclusively for the improvement of local facilities such as the Miami Beach Convention Center and, yes, Sun Life Stadium among others.So what's the trade-off?The Dolphins say making this modernization to Sun Life will help attract events such as Super Bowl 50 and the BCS national title game to town. That, they say, is a boon to the local economy. Although the team will continue to back local Super Bowl bids regardless of whether this project goes through or not, the fact is the NFL has recently reserved Super Bowl awards to communities that have either built new stadiums (Indy, Houston, New York) or upgraded their current stadium (New Orleans).(South Florida is in the running with a new stadium going up in Santa Clara for the 49ers for the rights to Super Bowl 50).The Dolphins also believe upgrades will give their facility more of a homefield advantage for them as well as the University of Miami football team, which also plays its home games at Sun Life. Part of the proposed upgrades include bringing seats closer to the field to improve sight lines and increase crowd noise. Sun Life currently has the highest percentage of fans sitting in the upper deck of practically any other facility in the NFL. The team wants to cut that number while adding seats closer to the field.The upgrades would also include a newer version to the old canopy roof proposal the team made previously.There will be pushback among some locals. Those folks are still stung by the Marlins deal that basically funded 75-80 percent of the new Marlins Park at the old Orange Bowl site. The Marlins are on the hook for only 15-20 percent of that project.The Marlins got that deal, in part, by saying they were losing money. They nonetheless refused to show officials their books and it was later learned the club was making money. The Marlins got that deal, in part, by promising to put a top-flight lineup on the field after spending years cutting salaries, even at the expense of trading great talents for inferior, younger, cheaper talent. They did that for one year. And this offseason they've gone back to cutting salaries.The Dolphins obviously will counter this by showing that Ross will be highly invested in this venture, and indeed, nearly fully invested if he gets lease concessions. And the club can make the point that unlike a professional baseball team, the NFL's collective bargaining agreement calls for a salary cap.That salary cap contains both a ceiling as everyone knows, but also has a floor which prevents teams from conducting talent fire sales to cut costs.And then there is the giant elephant in the room. Ready?If the Dolphins do not get the modernization they're hoping for, they will continue to play at Sun Life as is. And they will continue to do so as long as Stephen Ross is the owner.But ...Ross is 72 years old now. He eventually will sell the team. And although he would like to sell it to someone who will keep the team in South Florida, the truth is there is no guarantee he will do that.He may sell to someone who wishes to move the team. Yes, the NFL would frown upon this but NFL teams do move. (St. Louis, Cleveland, Oakland, Arizona among them).And the Dolphins, unlike practically all other NFL teams, currently have no lease holding them to their home stadium and thus their hometown. So basically, nothing is tying the Dolphins to South Florida other than tradition and ownership.Therefore, it might be wise for South Florida politicos that if they do this deal to indeed let Ross pay for, again, "practically all" of the project and also tie the Dolphins to the region and the stadium that is being upgraded. I'd suggest a 30-year tie, which is approximately the length of time the club is saying the upgrades will keep Sun Life contemporary.Would that cost local government in having to help run the facility? Yes. Will that require funds? Yes. Might that require tax dollars for operating subsidies? Yes.The Miami Heat have a similar arrangement.This is a big deal for the team and it comes on a big date: Today is January 14, 2013. It is the 40-year anniversary to the day of Miami winning Super Bowl VII and completing a perfect season.Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/#storylink=cpy
 
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