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The worst play call in NFL history (1 Viewer)

pretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.
I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 tries ;)
or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.
Lynch was playing pretty well at the time. I would have rode his back to the title, or at least tried a couple of times, or fake to him and rollout, or anything but the stupid call they made.
Yup. IIRC he had one negative carry in the game to that point. At least I can only remember one.

 
pretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.
I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 tries ;)
or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.
Lynch was playing pretty well at the time. I would have rode his back to the title, or at least tried a couple of times, or fake to him and rollout, or anything but the stupid call they made.
The thing that makes it really inexcusable, and this is obvious but I just can't get over it, is that even if he gets stuffed on 2nd and goal on the 1...so what?? You have two more plays, a timeout, and you give the Patriots less time.

If you had one play left, if there was one second left or 4th down, I honestly don'y question the call at all. But with three chances left and a time out, it's just unbelieveable.
Agreed.

 
pretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.
I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 tries ;)
or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.
Lynch carried 24 times and didn't have a run for negative yardage ... he had 2 for no gain and the rest went for 1 or more

 
I'm sure it's already been said but, Lynch is a beast of a man, on the 1/2 yard line, 1 timeout left...I don't care that everyone watching at home, in the stadium, and every player on the Pats D thinks they are running the ball...You Run The Ball! No one in the league runs as hard and fights for every yard...even if he's unlucky enough to be met in the backfield just as he takes the ball there is still a chance he powers forward with a couple of guys on his back and scores. In the small chance he doesn't get it, you call the timeout then have 2 more shots at the endzone. Horrible call. Great game. Fun time.

 
Definitely worst call in Super Bowl history, and among worst of all time period.

If I were a Seahawks fan Id be throwing up. Epic SB win and an all time historic catch flushed down the toilet by utter stupidity. Sickeneing.

 
Bevell admitted he made the call. HE said they got the look they wanted and said Lockette could have played it better. What a loser.

I think Bevell actually has been bad for quite sometime. HE has one of the best Qb's and one of the best RB's in the league to work with yet most of the time what moves the offense is ad libbing on broken plays by Wilson.

 
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Its on Wilson as well. If I'm him, I'm giggling hysterical at my OC's attempted troll job as I hand the ball off to Lynch for the win.

 
pretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.
I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 tries ;)
Probably only had one run left. But even if he gets stuffed, you use your final TO, and then you throw twice. So so awful not to give your best player that one last chance.

 
Bevell admitted he made the call. HE said they got the look they wanted and said Lockette could have played it better. What a loser.
Lockette didn't see the DB otherwise he could have reached and at least knocked it away. Way to throw him under the bus what dic.

 
The worst thing is they've could've done the read-option there, everybody would've went to Lynch and Wilson could have crawled in.

Unreal. Just crazy.

 
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The worst thing is they've could've done the read-option there, everybody would've went to Lynch and Wilson could have crawled in.

Unreal. Just crazy.
Yup, just like they did toward the end of that Packer game.

 
Bevell admitted he made the call. HE said they got the look they wanted and said Lockette could have played it better. What a loser.
Nice. While Caroll is falling on the sword for Bevell's historic mistake, he is throwing the player under the bus.

Honestly I don't fault Wilson or Lockette for that play. It was a horrific play call first, and an amazing Butler play second. That's it.[

 
Bevell admitted he made the call. HE said they got the look they wanted and said Lockette could have played it better. What a loser.
Nice. While Caroll is falling on the sword for Bevell's historic mistake, he is throwing the player under the bus.

Honestly I don't fault Wilson or Lockette for that play. It was a horrific play call first, and an amazing Butler play second. That's it.[
:goodposting:

 
Still dumbstruck.

Belichik wins a lot of games by making teams do things they don't want to do and waiting for them to make a mistake. Hard to believe in that situation the Seahawks obliged.

 
Bevell said when the Pats left their GL defense in when the Seahawks went 3 wide it was a pass all the way. The question is why did the Seahawks go 3 wide in the first place.

 
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I think it's universally viewed as a very poor play call, but it's also 20/20 hindsight.

If Wilson threads the needle there - which he has done time and time again with only 7 INTs all year - people would have called it a gutsy play by a proven winner at QB.

It obviously backfired since they took Lynch out of the play, but sometimes games turn on a few plays. They're not even in that situation if Kearse doesn't do a Tyree two plays prior.

 
I think it's universally viewed as a very poor play call, but it's also 20/20 hindsight.

If Wilson threads the needle there - which he has done time and time again with only 7 INTs all year - people would have called it a gutsy play by a proven winner at QB.

It obviously backfired since they took Lynch out of the play, but sometimes games turn on a few plays. They're not even in that situation if Kearse doesn't do a Tyree two plays prior.
:no:

Terrible play call regardless of the outcome. If they would have completed it, many would have still said "WTF?", and for good reason.

 
I think it's universally viewed as a very poor play call, but it's also 20/20 hindsight.

If Wilson threads the needle there - which he has done time and time again with only 7 INTs all year - people would have called it a gutsy play by a proven winner at QB.

It obviously backfired since they took Lynch out of the play, but sometimes games turn on a few plays. They're not even in that situation if Kearse doesn't do a Tyree two plays prior.
Not just hindsight here though. As soon as he went back to pass I was in shock. I was thinking wtf are they doing here. The interception topped it off. If it fell incomplete or even if it worked it was a bad call.

 
I think it's universally viewed as a very poor play call, but it's also 20/20 hindsight.

If Wilson threads the needle there - which he has done time and time again with only 7 INTs all year - people would have called it a gutsy play by a proven winner at QB.

It obviously backfired since they took Lynch out of the play, but sometimes games turn on a few plays. They're not even in that situation if Kearse doesn't do a Tyree two plays prior.
I'm pretty sure people would still have said it was a bad play call but they got lucky. Similar to Bellechick's decision not to use his timeouts.

 
The only reason Seattle had a chance in the first place, was because of miracle luck with a deflected ball bouncing to Kearse while on his back.

I think Belichick baited the Seahawks into a pass play by not calling a timeout. The Seahawks had 1 more TO, and about 20 seconds left. If Seattle runs the ball and fails on 2nd down, they have to burn their last TO, and the next play (3rd down) basically has to be a pass. Because if they run on 3rd down and that fails, they'd have very little time to get the 4th down play off.

 
When Belichick saw the Seahawks come out in that formation he probably was trying to bait them into passing, That is an excellent point espnespn. IF the Seahawks had come out in a GL formation I wonder if the Pats would have used a timeout.

Throwing that ball in the middle is always a risky play on the GL.

Out of that formation against a GL defense a run might not have worked. The question is why did they come out in that formation in the first place. That is inexcusable.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to use a TO and then didn't know what to do and were almost just trying to waste that play after the pats remained in their GL defense and didn't call a TO.

 
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Dumb ### call for sure. If Bevell even hinted at Lockette messing up then F that guy. Even if you even remotely think that you shut the hell up.

Butler not getting enough credit. He made a great play on the ball and held onto it after a huge collision with Lockette.

Still can't really believe that happened.

 
Dumb ### call for sure. If Bevell even hinted at Lockette messing up then F that guy. Even if you even remotely think that you shut the hell up.

Butler not getting enough credit. He made a great play on the ball and held onto it after a huge collision with Lockette.

Still can't really believe that happened.
Yeah I've watched the replay over and over. When Wilson releases the ball, Lockette is wide open. It really was an amazing play by Butler.

 
Dumb ### call for sure. If Bevell even hinted at Lockette messing up then F that guy. Even if you even remotely think that you shut the hell up.

Butler not getting enough credit. He made a great play on the ball and held onto it after a huge collision with Lockette.

Still can't really believe that happened.
He did.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/25016687/seahawks-bevell-questions-ricardo-lockettes-effort-on-final-play.

Bevell is a total ##### and he should be fired

 
Dumb ### call for sure. If Bevell even hinted at Lockette messing up then F that guy. Even if you even remotely think that you shut the hell up.

Butler not getting enough credit. He made a great play on the ball and held onto it after a huge collision with Lockette.

Still can't really believe that happened.
He did.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/25016687/seahawks-bevell-questions-ricardo-lockettes-effort-on-final-play.

Bevell is a total ##### and he should be fired
Well just because he made a horrible, career-altering play call, it doesn't mean he's wrong on that point. Butler was way more aggressive on attacking that ball.

 
bottom line:

throwing the ball brings EVERY possible bad outcome into the equation

even an incomplete pass is a bad outcome because NE doesn't have to use the timeout they should have used earlier....

worst play call I will see in my life on this planet.......

 
It was awful. If you are gonna pass in that situation I would think its a corner route that only the receiver can catch or you throw it out of play. But not into the middle of the field at the line of scrimmage. Terrible.

 
Dumb ### call for sure. If Bevell even hinted at Lockette messing up then F that guy. Even if you even remotely think that you shut the hell up.

Butler not getting enough credit. He made a great play on the ball and held onto it after a huge collision with Lockette.

Still can't really believe that happened.
He did.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/25016687/seahawks-bevell-questions-ricardo-lockettes-effort-on-final-play.

Bevell is a total ##### and he should be fired
Well just because he made a horrible, career-altering play call, it doesn't mean he's wrong on that point. Butler was way more aggressive on attacking that ball.
It's not wrong to think that - it's wrong to say it.

 
Dumb ### call for sure. If Bevell even hinted at Lockette messing up then F that guy. Even if you even remotely think that you shut the hell up.

Butler not getting enough credit. He made a great play on the ball and held onto it after a huge collision with Lockette.

Still can't really believe that happened.
He did.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/25016687/seahawks-bevell-questions-ricardo-lockettes-effort-on-final-play.

Bevell is a total ##### and he should be fired
Well just because he made a horrible, career-altering play call, it doesn't mean he's wrong on that point. Butler was way more aggressive on attacking that ball.
It's not wrong to think that - it's wrong to say it.
Sure but he probably also has no idea how much #### he is getting right now.

 
When Belichick saw the Seahawks come out in that formation he probably was trying to bait them into passing, That is an excellent point espnespn. IF the Seahawks had come out in a GL formation I wonder if the Pats would have used a timeout.

Throwing that ball in the middle is always a risky play on the GL.

Out of that formation against a GL defense a run might not have worked. The question is why did they come out in that formation in the first place. That is inexcusable.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to use a TO and then didn't know what to do and were almost just trying to waste that play after the pats remained in their GL defense and didn't call a TO.
What I meant was that Carroll already decided on a passing play for 2nd down because time was ticking down (about 20 secs left) and the best way to guarantee that he'd have 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down to score (if needed), and flexibility to either run/pass on 3rd down, was to pass on 2nd down.

Look at it this way. Assuming that each play is unsuccessful until 4th down attempt:

Option 1:

a) Pass play on 2nd down. Clock stops with incompletion.

b) You can run either a pass play or run play on 3rd down. Defense has to guess. You can stop clock after a run play with last TO, and have plenty of time to set up 4th down play

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play

Option 2:

a) Run play on 2nd down. Must burn last TO to stop clock.

b) Forced into pass play on 3rd down. Defense knows that you probably won't run because you are out of TOs, because you will have to scramble to get off 4th down play.

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play, but might not have enough time to run 4th down play

For Carroll to have flexibility on 3rd down and keep the defense guessing on 3rd down, he has to pass on 2nd down. Otherwise, it would be a disaster if the Seahawks run out of time before they can run a 4th down play.

 
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When Belichick saw the Seahawks come out in that formation he probably was trying to bait them into passing, That is an excellent point espnespn. IF the Seahawks had come out in a GL formation I wonder if the Pats would have used a timeout.

Throwing that ball in the middle is always a risky play on the GL.

Out of that formation against a GL defense a run might not have worked. The question is why did they come out in that formation in the first place. That is inexcusable.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to use a TO and then didn't know what to do and were almost just trying to waste that play after the pats remained in their GL defense and didn't call a TO.
What I meant was that Carroll already decided on a passing play for 2nd down because time was ticking down (about 20 secs left) and the best way to guarantee that he'd have 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down to score (if needed), and flexibility to either run/pass on 3rd down, was to pass on 2nd down.

Look at it this way. Assuming that each play is unsuccessful until 4th down attempt:

Option 1:

a) Pass play on 2nd down. Clock stops with incompletion.

b) You can run either a pass play or run play on 3rd down. Defense has to guess. You can stop clock after a run play with last TO, and have plenty of time to set up 4th down play

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play

Option 2:

a) Run play on 2nd down. Must burn last TO to stop clock.

b) Forced into pass play on 3rd down. Defense knows that you probably won't run because you are out of TOs, because you will have to scramble to get off 4th down play.

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play, but might not have enough time to run 4th down play

For Carroll to have flexibility on 3rd down and keep the defense guessing on 3rd down, he has to pass on 2nd down. Otherwise, it would be a disaster if the Seahawks run out of time before they can run a 4th down play.
Perhaps. But that route inside to a guy who is not Dez Bryant or Calvin Johnson or an established receiver doesn't seem wise. Throwing into traffic from a short pocket instead of a rollout is dicey at best.

 
When Belichick saw the Seahawks come out in that formation he probably was trying to bait them into passing, That is an excellent point espnespn. IF the Seahawks had come out in a GL formation I wonder if the Pats would have used a timeout.

Throwing that ball in the middle is always a risky play on the GL.

Out of that formation against a GL defense a run might not have worked. The question is why did they come out in that formation in the first place. That is inexcusable.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to use a TO and then didn't know what to do and were almost just trying to waste that play after the pats remained in their GL defense and didn't call a TO.
What I meant was that Carroll already decided on a passing play for 2nd down because time was ticking down (about 20 secs left) and the best way to guarantee that he'd have 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down to score (if needed), and flexibility to either run/pass on 3rd down, was to pass on 2nd down.

Look at it this way. Assuming that each play is unsuccessful until 4th down attempt:

Option 1:

a) Pass play on 2nd down. Clock stops with incompletion.

b) You can run either a pass play or run play on 3rd down. Defense has to guess. You can stop clock after a run play with last TO, and have plenty of time to set up 4th down play

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play

Option 2:

a) Run play on 2nd down. Must burn last TO to stop clock.

b) Forced into pass play on 3rd down. Defense knows that you probably won't run because you are out of TOs, because you will have to scramble to get off 4th down play.

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play, but might not have enough time to run 4th down play

For Carroll to have flexibility on 3rd down and keep the defense guessing on 3rd down, he has to pass on 2nd down. Otherwise, it would be a disaster if the Seahawks run out of time before they can run a 4th down play.
Yeah. But they were trying to get too cute with the clock. They didn't need to let the clock run all the way down and limit their options. They could have run the play with 40 seconds left and still keep all their options open for the next two downs. The bottom line is you have a good defense and even if you do give Brady the ball back with 30 seconds left and 2 TO's is still really likely you are going to win. In all likelihood the worst you are going to do is go to overtime.

When you are down 4 points you have to go ahead first and worry about the clock afterwards.

You can tell by Carroll's comments he wasn't too confident in the 2nd down call once the Pats stayed in GL defense.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to:

a) use a timeout

b) get out of their GL defense.

 
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That pick was amazing....lightening quick break and great catch. I was in shock, and even more so after the replay.

I think the real coaching error was in the fact that Butler knew the play was coming. The Seahawks must have shown that look too many times before because Butler knew what was coming and sold out for the ball.

Still a hell of a play.

 
That pick was amazing....lightening quick break and great catch. I was in shock, and even more so after the replay.

I think the real coaching error was in the fact that Butler knew the play was coming. The Seahawks must have shown that look too many times before because Butler knew what was coming and sold out for the ball.

Still a hell of a play.
That reminded me of the Tracy Porter interception in SB44, Butler just jumped the route and yes there is probably some serious coaching behind that play.

 
maf005 said:
:conspiracy:

Seattle FO (or the NFL) wanted Wilson to win MVP by throwing for another TD. If Lynch runs in that TD he's likely MVP.

Seattle FO would have to pay the SB MVP but doesn't want Lynch to have negotiation leverage
This actually occurred to me. Not the NFL, but Seattle, and not so much for the money or whatever but to get Wilson the MVP. And yet Wilson threw that pick, it wasn't there, he should have thrown it away. His historical standing went from 60 to 0 in one second.

 
When Belichick saw the Seahawks come out in that formation he probably was trying to bait them into passing, That is an excellent point espnespn. IF the Seahawks had come out in a GL formation I wonder if the Pats would have used a timeout.

Throwing that ball in the middle is always a risky play on the GL.

Out of that formation against a GL defense a run might not have worked. The question is why did they come out in that formation in the first place. That is inexcusable.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to use a TO and then didn't know what to do and were almost just trying to waste that play after the pats remained in their GL defense and didn't call a TO.
What I meant was that Carroll already decided on a passing play for 2nd down because time was ticking down (about 20 secs left) and the best way to guarantee that he'd have 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down to score (if needed), and flexibility to either run/pass on 3rd down, was to pass on 2nd down.

Look at it this way. Assuming that each play is unsuccessful until 4th down attempt:

Option 1:

a) Pass play on 2nd down. Clock stops with incompletion.

b) You can run either a pass play or run play on 3rd down. Defense has to guess. You can stop clock after a run play with last TO, and have plenty of time to set up 4th down play

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play

Option 2:

a) Run play on 2nd down. Must burn last TO to stop clock.

b) Forced into pass play on 3rd down. Defense knows that you probably won't run because you are out of TOs, because you will have to scramble to get off 4th down play.

c) 4th down can be either pass play or run play, but might not have enough time to run 4th down play

For Carroll to have flexibility on 3rd down and keep the defense guessing on 3rd down, he has to pass on 2nd down. Otherwise, it would be a disaster if the Seahawks run out of time before they can run a 4th down play.
Yeah. But they were trying to get too cute with the clock. They didn't need to let the clock run all the way down and limit their options. They could have run the play with 40 seconds left and still keep all their options open for the next two downs. The bottom line is you have a good defense and even if you do give Brady the ball back with 30 seconds left and 2 TO's is still really likely you are going to win. In all likelihood the worst you are going to do is go to overtime.

When you are down 4 points you have to go ahead first and worry about the clock afterwards.

You can tell by Carroll's comments he wasn't too confident in the 2nd down call once the Pats stayed in GL defense.

I think the Seahawks expected the Pats to:

a) use a timeout

b) get out of their GL defense.
Yup, the Seahawks got cute with the clock, and tried to burn all the time off. But that limited their options, which made their play-calling predictable.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12266535/super-bowl-xlix-darrell-bevell-seattle-seahawks-play-call-made-kill-clock

Of course, Belichick cooperated by not calling a TO, and he knew once they were down to about 20 seconds, they would likely pass on 2nd down. :cool:

 
There are a dozen if/buts on every play. A ton of worse calls have gone relatively unnoticed.

Without a doubt...circumstances...this one goes down as the Worst Play Call in NFL History.

 
Yeah, not sure I would have called that. Would've done a run option play and kept it with RW. Keep in mind that Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1 yard line. And he only scored on one of them.

All this being said, I love the balls that Pete Carroll and the Seahawks play with. They play to win, and I for one love that style of play. We saw what playing not to lose gets you. It gets you Green Bay 2 weeks ago.

I've watched the play at least 10 times now. I love the play (though I'd have used it one play later) and it was very well executed by Seattle. Butler just made an incredible incredible play. He jumped the route from 5 yards out, bolted to the ball and outmuscled the larger player. On a scale of 1 to 10 it was at least a 9, maybe even a 10. If I'm a head coach, I can live with being aggressive, playing to win, and losing on a once in a lifetime play by an unheralded player.

I'm no Pete Carroll fan, but I do feel bad for the guy tonight. Totally bush league for his players to throw him under the bus in the post game interviews like that. He deserves way better than that.

 
maf005 said:
:conspiracy:

Seattle FO (or the NFL) wanted Wilson to win MVP by throwing for another TD. If Lynch runs in that TD he's likely MVP.

Seattle FO would have to pay the SB MVP but doesn't want Lynch to have negotiation leverage
I could not agree with you more--I was thinking the same exact thing. The last thing Seattle wanted to do was have their franchise publicized more for guys like Marshawn and Sherman than for a guy like Russell. The football gods smiled upon them with that miracle catch to put them in a position to win---and the OC,Carroll and Wilson all get greedy and try to kill two birds with one stone. To win the superbowl and to swing the odds of SB MVP going to Wilson. Had Marshawn scored and Seattle won--Marshawn gets MVP--ends up being a media sensation while Russell takes a backseat--and primes himself for a much gigantic payday. I don't care if Carroll or the OC called a pass play--Russell is the qb and was a willing participant in going along with what he knew in the back of his head was the wrong play. Last I checked--Qb's can audible if and when they want. He got selfish and was already thinking about the legacy of throwing the winning td pass in a come from behind win over Tom Brady instead of giving his team the best opportunity to win. The city of Boston should send the city of Seattle a "Thank You" card for gifting them a Super Bowl through their stupidity and selfishness.
 
“It’s not the right matchup for us to run the football,” Carroll said. “So on second down, we throw the ball, really to kind of waste that play. If we score, we do. If we don’t, then we’ll run it on third and fourth down. Really, with no second thoughts or hesitation in that at all.”

Oof.

 

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