Right. Run a fade.Even the pass play was stupid. You've got the Pats crowding the middle of the field thinking run and you call a shallow pass to the middle of the field where everyone's bunched.
Agree. Wilson has to see that safety charging hard and that the play was going to be close. Even if the Patriots guy doesn't pick it clean, it can easily set up a tipped ball with a ton of defenders around. Wilson should have thrown that ball away.Even the pass play was stupid. You've got the Pats crowding the middle of the field thinking run and you call a shallow pass to the middle of the field where everyone's bunched.
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They were either trying to prevent Lynch from winning TD.. Or trying to get Wilson game winning td!!
The SB MVP does swing based on who scores that td thoughAndrew Hawkins, conspiracy theorist:
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They were either trying to prevent Lynch from winning TD.. Or trying to get Wilson game winning td!!![]()
They gave it to Lynch the play right before that.
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Terence Moore @TMooreSports 10m10 minutes ago
I’m in the Seahawks locker room. Wow. Talking about despair! Those who can speak are freely ripping that last play call. Big time.
I would argue that it was an awful decision by Wilson to throw the pass. The pass is where it should be. The defender beat the receiver to the spot. Again, Wilson should have recognized that the play was going to be close and not throw it.Also an awful pass by RW
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll did what he had to do, even if it wasn’t necessarily the truth.Carroll took the blame for the disastrous game-losing decision to pass at the goal line, which cost his team a chance to win the Super Bowl. Instead, quarterback Russell Wilson threw an interception to Patriots cornerback Malcolm Butler, giving away a chance to win the game with 20 seconds left.
Carroll said after the game that since they had three receivers on the field, he didn’t want to take the chance to run it against the Patriots’ goal-line defense.
And that’s fine, and reasonable, except for a few things, namely, the timeout in their pocket and the Marshawn Lynch in the backfield.
Carroll was likely just jumping on the grenade for offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.
But the questioning of the play-calling from within was immediate.
Cornerback Tharold Simon summed it up succinctly, saying: “How do you throw the ball when you got Marshawn Lynch?,” via Josh Katzenstein of the Detroit News.
That’s a question that will haunt Carroll, Wilson, Bevell and Seahawks fans for years.
It was second down and they had a timeout left. They had THREE running plays if they wanted.Freelove said:With one play left and the title on the line, you don't ask a game manager QB to win it for you.
The problem is even if he hates the call he can't call the last timeout there. So basically he runs a busted play or goes with the call.I would argue that it was an awful decision by Wilson to throw the pass. The pass is where it should be. The defender beat the receiver to the spot. Again, Wilson should have recognized that the play was going to be close and not throw it.Also an awful pass by RW
I think in time it will be shortened to simply "The Call." Like the catch, the drive, the fumble, or wide right...That play call has to have a name. "The dumbest call in NFL history" just doesn't seem to do it justice.![]()
Or how about not throwing a pick............He had to change the play and hand the ball off or sneak it and save his coaching staff from the carpet bombing that is going to happen for the rest of his coaching career.The problem is even if he hates the call he can't call the last timeout there. So basically he runs a busted play or goes with the call.I would argue that it was an awful decision by Wilson to throw the pass. The pass is where it should be. The defender beat the receiver to the spot. Again, Wilson should have recognized that the play was going to be close and not throw it.Also an awful pass by RW
And got smoked most of the gameCornerback Tharold Simon breaking ranks. Ballsy for a 5th rounder.
a fake FG in a regular season game aby a team down 24 isn't close to as bad as this call is
Are you kidding. That was considered a "Brilliant" play design without execution compared what we just saw.
Sorry, but that doesn't come close to tonight's debacle, especially given what was at stake.
Yeah a call by a crap team down 24-0 in a regular season game was definitely worse.
I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 triespretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.
I would say Bevell may never get a head coaching job because of that call.That's the kind of play call that ends careers. How can you ever trust a guy after that. Epic EPIC choke. I don't think the play caller recovers.
or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 triespretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.![]()
I thought it was arrogance.classic case of trying to get too cute with the call. It's either stupidity or arrogance.
The Pats staff was praying for a miracle... that miracle being that Lynch wouldn't score given 3 chances. They got a different miracle thanks to the call.or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 triespretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.![]()
It's so epically dumb it has to be a fix. BS like this will kill the NFL faster than concussion lawsuits.
Listening to Carroll, it almost sounds like that was what the coaches expected, because I've heard Pete twice now and both times he said the idea was to leave plays on the table at 3rd and 4th down if the pass wasn't there.I would argue that it was an awful decision by Wilson to throw the pass. The pass is where it should be. The defender beat the receiver to the spot. Again, Wilson should have recognized that the play was going to be close and not throw it.Also an awful pass by RW
Lynch was playing pretty well at the time. I would have rode his back to the title, or at least tried a couple of times, or fake to him and rollout, or anything but the stupid call they made.or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 triespretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.![]()
You know, I thought that too. But saw this on Twitter:Also an awful pass by RW
Exactly. It's not just the decision to throw. But to throw a slant over the middle where defenders were all around the receiver? Horrible.If you are dead set on throwing it, at least try a fade to the corner where there is much less chance to get intercepted!
The thing that makes it really inexcusable, and this is obvious but I just can't get over it, is that even if he gets stuffed on 2nd and goal on the 1...so what?? You have two more plays, a timeout, and you give the Patriots less time.Lynch was playing pretty well at the time. I would have rode his back to the title, or at least tried a couple of times, or fake to him and rollout, or anything but the stupid call they made.or gets steamrolled for a loss of 4 by collins on a run blitz like lynch has before. face it, the only coaches and coordinators good enough to make it to the super bowl were not expecting lynch to score.I'm pretty sure he would have in 3 triespretty funny how everyone just assumes lynch scores. the pats ddint think he could so they didnt call timeout, the seahawks didnt think so either because they didnt give him the ball. but the arm chair coordinators are losing their ####, they had the coverage they wanted on the man they wanted but he jumped the route and made a play, good on him, but the TD was there in the air it just didnt happen. no guarantee lynch scores there.![]()