Things Tim has an expert opinion on: (1 Viewer)

[timschochet]

Kent State football

You realize I am a Steelers fan, right? Jack Lambert and James Harrison- 2 of the best linebackers ever!

 

[Joe McGee]

Alex Rodriguez centaur paintings.

 

[Zegras11]

Bullying Otis.

 

[Raider Nation]

Bullying Otis.

Successfully.

 

[Raider Nation]

Picking E.J. Manuel in the 7th round of a highly competitive draft rather than getting him for nothing in free agency after week 1.

 

[Raider Nation]

Luv ya, Tim.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Jewish definition of the messiah.

 

[[icon]]

Picking E.J. Manuel in the 7th round of a highly competitive draft rather than getting him for nothing in free agency after week 1.

 

[Sarnoff]

Picking E.J. Manuel in the 7th round of a highly competitive draft rather than getting him for nothing in free agency after week 1.

Oof. Poor Tim, he's obviously out of his element with this fantasy football thing. You guys should take pity on him, it's not nice to beat up on the mentally challenged.

Spot him Peyton Manning, or something.

 

[Arizona Ron]

The guy knows the real sleepers.

 

[E Street Brat]

The Rodeo Cowboy Association

 

[RCon]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=695973&page=10#entry16120814

Website security and traffic handling

 

[TheIronSheik]

Venice Beach chess games with old Russian men.

 

[Sarnoff]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=695973&page=10#entry16120814

Website security and traffic handling

...with absolute certainty based entirely on what he heard a guy on TV say

 

[drummer]

Mandatory background checks for Home Depot customers.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

 

[Sarnoff]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they don’t contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

 

[Todd Andrews]

Why he wont vote for Obama but supports his every policy.

Why he isnt a Tea Party supporter but votes for the same candidates they do.

Why he is squish.

 

[timschochet]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they dont contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

Seriously though everything you just wrote is utter crap.

 

[Sarnoff]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they dont contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

Seriously though everything you just wrote is utter crap.

If they are already illegal, then they’re bound not to respect our laws, so they’re much more likely to become criminal. They’re swarming our prisons. We don’t have enough space for them, and the cost is horrendous. The cost to our hospitals may be even worse. The illegals swarm the emergency rooms, with no money, so who ends up paying? The taxpayer, of course, and we can’t afford it. But the biggest problem is in the schools. Most of these kids don’t speak English, so we’re saddled with bilingual education, which is no good for anybody. The illegals form gangs and are dangerous.

 

[timschochet]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they dont contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

Seriously though everything you just wrote is utter crap.

If they are already illegal, then theyre bound not to respect our laws, so theyre much more likely to become criminal. Theyre swarming our prisons. We dont have enough space for them, and the cost is horrendous. The cost to our hospitals may be even worse. The illegals swarm the emergency rooms, with no money, so who ends up paying? The taxpayer, of course, and we cant afford it. But the biggest problem is in the schools. Most of these kids dont speak English, so were saddled with bilingual education, which is no good for anybody. The illegals form gangs and are dangerous.

Again nearly everything you wrote is the exact opposite of the truth.

 

[Sarnoff]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they dont contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

Seriously though everything you just wrote is utter crap.

If they are already illegal, then theyre bound not to respect our laws, so theyre much more likely to become criminal. Theyre swarming our prisons. We dont have enough space for them, and the cost is horrendous. The cost to our hospitals may be even worse. The illegals swarm the emergency rooms, with no money, so who ends up paying? The taxpayer, of course, and we cant afford it. But the biggest problem is in the schools. Most of these kids dont speak English, so were saddled with bilingual education, which is no good for anybody. The illegals form gangs and are dangerous.

Again nearly everything you wrote is the exact opposite of the truth.

I’m not racist. I have several Latino friends, some of them in my church, and I consider them to be my equals. Most of them are as concerned over this issue as I am. But what you doesn’t get is there is a difference between legal immigrants and those that come here illegally. If you’re an illegal alien, you’ve broken the law by your very presence. That’s wrong. And before we go any farther discussing this issue, we need to all realize how wrong it is. And this is at the very heart of my objection. Even if, somehow in a fantasy world, you could make the argument that illegals were good for our society, that they didn’t harm us in any way but actually benefited us, that they didn’t have any cost to our prisons, our schools, our hospitals; even if all this were true, I would still be against them, because they’re illegal. They broke the law by coming here. And if you allow the law to be broken by their presence, then what’s the point of any of our laws? Why not just live in a lawless society?

 

[timschochet]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they dont contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

Seriously though everything you just wrote is utter crap.

If they are already illegal, then theyre bound not to respect our laws, so theyre much more likely to become criminal. Theyre swarming our prisons. We dont have enough space for them, and the cost is horrendous. The cost to our hospitals may be even worse. The illegals swarm the emergency rooms, with no money, so who ends up paying? The taxpayer, of course, and we cant afford it. But the biggest problem is in the schools. Most of these kids dont speak English, so were saddled with bilingual education, which is no good for anybody. The illegals form gangs and are dangerous.

Again nearly everything you wrote is the exact opposite of the truth.

Im not racist. I have several Latino friends, some of them in my church, and I consider them to be my equals. Most of them are as concerned over this issue as I am. But what you doesnt get is there is a difference between legal immigrants and those that come here illegally. If youre an illegal alien, youve broken the law by your very presence. Thats wrong. And before we go any farther discussing this issue, we need to all realize how wrong it is. And this is at the very heart of my objection. Even if, somehow in a fantasy world, you could make the argument that illegals were good for our society, that they didnt harm us in any way but actually benefited us, that they didnt have any cost to our prisons, our schools, our hospitals; even if all this were true, I would still be against them, because theyre illegal. They broke the law by coming here. And if you allow the law to be broken by their presence, then whats the point of any of our laws? Why not just live in a lawless society?

Now you're simply stating an argument. It's perfectly valid though I strongly disagree with it. Your two previous posts in this thread were filled with statements you presented as facts and were actually false. That's a different matter.

 

[Sarnoff]

Why Mexican Americans refuse to assimilate into American culture and Racism in Arizona.

Seriously, though, do the illegal aliens from south of the border encourage their kids to speak English? No, they demand bilingual education. They seek to be separate from our culture, they dont contribute to the old idea of the melting pot, and they retain an antagonism towards American values.

Seriously though everything you just wrote is utter crap.

If they are already illegal, then theyre bound not to respect our laws, so theyre much more likely to become criminal. Theyre swarming our prisons. We dont have enough space for them, and the cost is horrendous. The cost to our hospitals may be even worse. The illegals swarm the emergency rooms, with no money, so who ends up paying? The taxpayer, of course, and we cant afford it. But the biggest problem is in the schools. Most of these kids dont speak English, so were saddled with bilingual education, which is no good for anybody. The illegals form gangs and are dangerous.

Again nearly everything you wrote is the exact opposite of the truth.

Im not racist. I have several Latino friends, some of them in my church, and I consider them to be my equals. Most of them are as concerned over this issue as I am. But what you doesnt get is there is a difference between legal immigrants and those that come here illegally. If youre an illegal alien, youve broken the law by your very presence. Thats wrong. And before we go any farther discussing this issue, we need to all realize how wrong it is. And this is at the very heart of my objection. Even if, somehow in a fantasy world, you could make the argument that illegals were good for our society, that they didnt harm us in any way but actually benefited us, that they didnt have any cost to our prisons, our schools, our hospitals; even if all this were true, I would still be against them, because theyre illegal. They broke the law by coming here. And if you allow the law to be broken by their presence, then whats the point of any of our laws? Why not just live in a lawless society?

Now you're simply stating an argument. It's perfectly valid though I strongly disagree with it. Your two previous posts in this thread were filled with statements you presented as facts and were actually false. That's a different matter.

If I tell you that a high percentage of crimes committed in southern California are by illegal immigrants, which they are, you might not see a connection, but I do.

 

[timschochet]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

 

[Sarnoff]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Until you can get the law changed, it is what it is, and people have no right to break it. I say that if they do, they’re making a mockery of all of our laws.

 

[jon_mx]

This thread is getting off track. Can we please stay on topic? TIA

 

[DrJ]

Big L Libertarianism.

 

[jon_mx]

Big L Libertarianism.

And all its pillars.

 

[The Commish]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

 

[DrJ]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

 

[The Commish]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

What's the "illegal" part of "illegal immigrant" then??

 

[timschochet]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

What's the "illegal" part of "illegal immigrant" then??

It's a good question. I can't answer it, which is why I prefer to call them undocumented. Let's be clear: entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor. It is not a felony. Sarnoff tried to claim that illegal immigrants are involved in all sorts of violent crimes. Statistically, that is an absolutely lie. When confronted with his lie, Sarnoff tried to fall back on "well, they're illegal just by being here" pretending that his earlier argument was valid. It isn't.

Sarnoff, and those like him, have an irrational hatred of illegal immigrants. When asked to give the reasons, he spits out a whole bunch of false information: they cause crime in great numbers. (They don't). They cost the taxpayer more than they produce for our society. (They don't.) They take away jobs from Americans. (They don't.) They threaten our culture. (They don't.) Their presence here is a threat to the lawfulness of our society (it isn't.) They are breaking us in terms of schools, hospitals, and prisons. (They aren't.) They try to force bilingual education down our throats. (They didn't).

In the end, there's nothing left but fear and bigotry.

 

[jon_mx]

So if some friend lets you in the backdoor of a movie theater bypassing the ticket aagent, you are there legally, you are just undocumented. Good to know...

 

[SacramentoBob]

Not exactly sure what's so hard about defining what the illegal part of illegal immigrant is. Just argue that it's a victimless crime that needs to be legal much like smoking weed, jaywalking or abortion.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Things tim ISN'T an expert on: Why people who bypass the legal methods to stay in this country are called illegal.

 

[DrJ]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

What's the "illegal" part of "illegal immigrant" then??

Right, but Tim drew the line at felony. Coming over the first time (or the first time with a given identity) is actually only a misdemeanor.

 

[johnnycakes]

Might as well add Lou Reed discography to the list after that copy-and-paste job.

 

[The Commish]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

What's the "illegal" part of "illegal immigrant" then??

It's a good question. I can't answer it, which is why I prefer to call them undocumented. Let's be clear: entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor. It is not a felony. Sarnoff tried to claim that illegal immigrants are involved in all sorts of violent crimes. Statistically, that is an absolutely lie. When confronted with his lie, Sarnoff tried to fall back on "well, they're illegal just by being here" pretending that his earlier argument was valid. It isn't.

Sarnoff, and those like him, have an irrational hatred of illegal immigrants. When asked to give the reasons, he spits out a whole bunch of false information: they cause crime in great numbers. (They don't). They cost the taxpayer more than they produce for our society. (They don't.) They take away jobs from Americans. (They don't.) They threaten our culture. (They don't.) Their presence here is a threat to the lawfulness of our society (it isn't.) They are breaking us in terms of schools, hospitals, and prisons. (They aren't.) They try to force bilingual education down our throats. (They didn't).

In the end, there's nothing left but fear and bigotry.

It was a rhetorical question. You don't get that coming in any way other than the way the rules allow is "illegal"? You can argue with the rules, say they are unfair, whatever.....that's a different discussion. Ignoring the rules and doing your own thing is the "illegal" part. Not that complicated. You drawing an arbitrary line at felony really has no bearing.

 

[timschochet]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

What's the "illegal" part of "illegal immigrant" then??

It's a good question. I can't answer it, which is why I prefer to call them undocumented. Let's be clear: entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor. It is not a felony. Sarnoff tried to claim that illegal immigrants are involved in all sorts of violent crimes. Statistically, that is an absolutely lie. When confronted with his lie, Sarnoff tried to fall back on "well, they're illegal just by being here" pretending that his earlier argument was valid. It isn't.

Sarnoff, and those like him, have an irrational hatred of illegal immigrants. When asked to give the reasons, he spits out a whole bunch of false information: they cause crime in great numbers. (They don't). They cost the taxpayer more than they produce for our society. (They don't.) They take away jobs from Americans. (They don't.) They threaten our culture. (They don't.) Their presence here is a threat to the lawfulness of our society (it isn't.) They are breaking us in terms of schools, hospitals, and prisons. (They aren't.) They try to force bilingual education down our throats. (They didn't).

In the end, there's nothing left but fear and bigotry.

It was a rhetorical question. You don't get that coming in any way other than the way the rules allow is "illegal"? You can argue with the rules, say they are unfair, whatever.....that's a different discussion. Ignoring the rules and doing your own thing is the "illegal" part. Not that complicated. You drawing an arbitrary line at felony really has no bearing.

Sarnoff wrote:

If I tell you that a high percentage of crimes committed in southern California are by illegal immigrants, which they are, you might not see a connection, but I do.

This is so deceptive that it is basically a lie. To pretend that it is accurate based on the notion that every illegal immigrant is by definition a criminal is a pretty shameful means to defend the indefensible.

 

[The Commish]

You're looking at the wrong statistic. The correct statistic to look at is what percentage of illegal immigrants living in this country are involved in crime versus what percentage of legal citizens in this country are involved in crime. Study after study which has examined those numbers shows that in fact a lower percentage of illegals commit felonies than do American citizens. Simply put, once they're here, they tend to be more law abiding than we are.

Isn't every illegal immigrant here involved in a crime?? or are we using the mental gymnastics where we pull out the "not THAT kind of crime silly" arguments?

They're only guilty of a felony if they come back after being deported I guess. And they can have a new identity in like a week. The busboy you knew as Juan last week before being deported is back at the same establishment as Pedro today.

What's the "illegal" part of "illegal immigrant" then??

It's a good question. I can't answer it, which is why I prefer to call them undocumented. Let's be clear: entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor. It is not a felony. Sarnoff tried to claim that illegal immigrants are involved in all sorts of violent crimes. Statistically, that is an absolutely lie. When confronted with his lie, Sarnoff tried to fall back on "well, they're illegal just by being here" pretending that his earlier argument was valid. It isn't.

Sarnoff, and those like him, have an irrational hatred of illegal immigrants. When asked to give the reasons, he spits out a whole bunch of false information: they cause crime in great numbers. (They don't). They cost the taxpayer more than they produce for our society. (They don't.) They take away jobs from Americans. (They don't.) They threaten our culture. (They don't.) Their presence here is a threat to the lawfulness of our society (it isn't.) They are breaking us in terms of schools, hospitals, and prisons. (They aren't.) They try to force bilingual education down our throats. (They didn't).

In the end, there's nothing left but fear and bigotry.

It was a rhetorical question. You don't get that coming in any way other than the way the rules allow is "illegal"? You can argue with the rules, say they are unfair, whatever.....that's a different discussion. Ignoring the rules and doing your own thing is the "illegal" part. Not that complicated. You drawing an arbitrary line at felony really has no bearing.

Sarnoff wrote:

If I tell you that a high percentage of crimes committed in southern California are by illegal immigrants, which they are, you might not see a connection, but I do.

This is so deceptive that it is basically a lie. To pretend that it is accurate based on the notion that every illegal immigrant is by definition a criminal is a pretty shameful means to defend the indefensible.

You are making a severe mistake....I'm not defending anyone/anything here. I asked a question. Everyone here illegally is participating in a crime. I don't care what Sarnoff said. That's why I didn't quote him. What is shameful is ignoring that reality because it doesn't fit your narrative. People here illegally are committing a crime. Focusing on whether they are "criminals" or not completely misses the point. All we know is that they are willing to commit a crime.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Kent State football

You realize I am a Steelers fan, right? Jack Lambert and James Harrison- 2 of the best linebackers ever!

Yeah.....about that. Well, we had a meeting.

You gotta go.

 

[drummer]

Kent State football

You realize I am a Steelers fan, right? Jack Lambert and James Harrison- 2 of the best linebackers ever!

Yeah.....about that. Well, we had a meeting.

You gotta go.

 

[timschochet]

Kent State football

You realize I am a Steelers fan, right? Jack Lambert and James Harrison- 2 of the best linebackers ever!

Yeah.....about that. Well, we had a meeting.

You gotta go.

If I can survive this year's team, I can survive anything.

 

[jon_mx]

Kent State football

You realize I am a Steelers fan, right? Jack Lambert and James Harrison- 2 of the best linebackers ever!

Yeah.....about that. Well, we had a meeting.

You gotta go.

If I can survive this year's team, I can survive anything.

I think there voted you off the island.

 

[phrozen]

Kent State football

You realize I am a Steelers fan, right? Jack Lambert and James Harrison- 2 of the best linebackers ever!

Yeah.....about that. Well, we had a meeting.

You gotta go.

If I can survive this year's team, I can survive anything.

how about this years Lakers team? :crossesfingers:

 

[phrozen]

Might as well add Lou Reed discography to the list after that copy-and-paste job.

here are a few of my favorite songs::copiesandpastesentirediscography:

 

[Redwes25]

Chills and goose bumps

 

[jon_mx]

Chills and goose bumps

premature Anniversaries.

 

[RCon]

Medicaid expansion policies within the ACA.

The validity and comprehensiveness of all health insurance policies sold over the past decade.