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AngryPatriot

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It may have been discussed before on here but I think suspended should mean suspended, preseason, off season or during the year. It's hypocritical to let a player work out, play in preseason games and THEN be suspended? That's BS in my opinion. I realize they lose the real money during the season but what about the moral or ethical or criminal... reason behind the suspension in the first place? So players convicted of domestic abuse, DUI, drug charges, PED's, assault, attempted rape... are not truly suspended, punished. Or at least players who have gone contrary to the NFL's policy badly enough to be suspended- are really not. It doesn't make any sense to me, esp. coming from the "new" tougher NFL.

 
It may have been discussed before on here but I think suspended should mean suspended, preseason, off season or during the year. It's hypocritical to let a player work out, play in preseason games and THEN be suspended? That's BS in my opinion. I realize they lose the real money during the season but what about the moral or ethical or criminal... reason behind the suspension in the first place? So players convicted of domestic abuse, DUI, drug charges, PED's, assault, attempted rape... are not truly suspended, punished. Or at least players who have gone contrary to the NFL's policy badly enough to be suspended- are really not. It doesn't make any sense to me, esp. coming from the "new" tougher NFL.
So a player who is suspended in the offseason for 4 games should sit out the 4 preseason games, while a player suspended after the start of the regular season should have to miss 4 regular season games? :goodposting: That makes sense, I guess. You wouldn't want to have competitive balance or anything, with some team losing key players for 4 games that matter and others losing them for meaningless games.I also doubt that you'd have guys appealing their suspensions, filing lawsuits, trying to draw the suspension out until after the season, and then dropping any appeals/delaying tactics once the season ends in order to miss pre-season games.
 
AngryPatriot said:
It may have been discussed before on here but I think suspended should mean suspended, preseason, off season or during the year. It's hypocritical to let a player work out, play in preseason games and THEN be suspended? That's BS in my opinion. I realize they lose the real money during the season but what about the moral or ethical or criminal... reason behind the suspension in the first place? So players convicted of domestic abuse, DUI, drug charges, PED's, assault, attempted rape... are not truly suspended, punished. Or at least players who have gone contrary to the NFL's policy badly enough to be suspended- are really not. It doesn't make any sense to me, esp. coming from the "new" tougher NFL.
No, actually, it is not hypocritical. The rules are pretty specific, in terms of stating that the players are getting suspended for regular season games, not getting paid "real" money, along with not being able to be on the team facilities. So Big Ben and Cushing and whoever else, get to stay in some dorm room and run around in the summer heat still taking the chance at injury while making regular guy money is some real benefit to the player/team. Because someone breaks a rule or law does not mean they get to lose ALL of his/her rights and sense of humanity during the punishment period.
 
AngryPatriot said:
It may have been discussed before on here but I think suspended should mean suspended, preseason, off season or during the year. It's hypocritical to let a player work out, play in preseason games and THEN be suspended? That's BS in my opinion. I realize they lose the real money during the season but what about the moral or ethical or criminal... reason behind the suspension in the first place? So players convicted of domestic abuse, DUI, drug charges, PED's, assault, attempted rape... are not truly suspended, punished. Or at least players who have gone contrary to the NFL's policy badly enough to be suspended- are really not. It doesn't make any sense to me, esp. coming from the "new" tougher NFL.
So a 4-game suspension should really be a 3 month suspension if those 4 games happen to be the first 4 games of the season? But if those 4 games happen to fall in the middle of the season, it should really be a 4-game suspension? Or if a player gets suspended for weeks 13-17, maybe he should be forced to miss NEXT YEAR'S preseason, too.Suspended does mean suspended. "Suspended 4 games" means "suspended 4 games", it doesn't mean "suspended 4 games and all the preseason and training camps and offseason conditioning programs".
 
If they did this, it would reduce the effectiveness of the Patriots surveilance operations.

 
lol I realize that preseason is not exactly a few weeks in Aruba, probably more like the opposite but it's not like any other punishment in any other area of life. If you're suspended from work you don't just hang around the office, hit the lunch room and water cooler- but just don't do any work. Same goes for going to prison. It's a freakin punishment for a reason! Believe me the front office has thought about this and I'm sure received criticism. I'd like to hear what some of the administrators of this site think. Frankly I'm surprised at some of the reactions to this but not at the "high school" ones, lol.

 
Sure...I guess they should count the preseason somehow, but one week preseasons doesn't equal one week in season.

Entire preseason could equal one regular season though! Yeah...there's a workable compromise.

Sorry...your proposal isn't garnering even minor support here...maybe there's something inherently wrong with it you refuse to see?

 
lol I realize that preseason is not exactly a few weeks in Aruba, probably more like the opposite but it's not like any other punishment in any other area of life. If you're suspended from work you don't just hang around the office, hit the lunch room and water cooler- but just don't do any work. Same goes for going to prison. It's a freakin punishment for a reason! Believe me the front office has thought about this and I'm sure received criticism. I'd like to hear what some of the administrators of this site think. Frankly I'm surprised at some of the reactions to this but not at the "high school" ones, lol.
First, anyone who uses "lol" twice in one post has no business complaining about "high school" responses. Second, your analogy fails because there are often delayed sentencings for criminal offenses--punishment is punishment whether it's served now or 2 weeks from now, and people found guilty of crimes aren't always hit with a "Go directly to jail" card. When the suspensions starts, the players will not be "hanging around the office". The fact that they get to hang around until it starts doesn't affect the nature of the punishment.
 
When a player is suspended, it refers to the regular season for the good reasons mentioned above. Personally I would rather see the punishments be more severe but converted to paychecks instead of actually missing the games.

For instance, instead of suspending a player for 4 games, fine him for 8 regular season game paychecks then make the player attend appropriate counseling and perform community service. This makes more sense to me as it doesn't penalize the team and season ticket holders and it doesn't upset the competitive balance within a division & conference.

 
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