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- Thread starter dewaser
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well dude, at this time of year this is what you should expect. Most redraft leagues dont draft until Mid to Late August or early September. The only leagues that will have any activity at this time of year will be dynasty/keeper leagues where people need to decide who to keep and who to drop.
That's just the nature of the beast man.
as the year progresses, you will see more redraft league info come up.
That's just the nature of the beast man.
as the year progresses, you will see more redraft league info come up.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Get a grip. It is July. Redraft doesn't pick up until training camp and preseason.
Beefeaters
Footballguy
Typically redraft information doesn't come about until we get news from Training Camps and leagues start gearing up for their drafts. But off-season information is always pertinent to Dynasty leagues, so they tend to dominate these otherwise slow months. You'll find that everywhere. Not just here.
ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Redraft is boring.
True, but unless your league drafts in the next couple of weeks, chances are good that you wont be combing the forums looking for info.
only the keeners will be on that bandwagon at this time of year.
reality is, most keeners, are drawn to keeper and dynasty leagues because you can make trades and roster moves all year long (including off season)
There is a lot of info here that is good for both. but I admit, more useful for dynasty or keeper leagues.
only the keeners will be on that bandwagon at this time of year.
reality is, most keeners, are drawn to keeper and dynasty leagues because you can make trades and roster moves all year long (including off season)
There is a lot of info here that is good for both. but I admit, more useful for dynasty or keeper leagues.
Beefeaters
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
There are multiple threads and discussions happening right now that are focused on 2014 projections which are pertinent to re-draft or dynasty formats.
Some of the longer view dynasty focus might actually be useful information about a team or player situation for 2014 that might otherwise be overlooked.
I think you protest too much. Information is information. If you want the discussion to be tailored specifically to your interest, than ask a pointed question, or offer your opinion about redraft or the 2014 season for discussion.
What is useless to you may be useful for someone else. I think with a more open mind, you may actually find some of the dynasty discussion to have information that is actionable in redraft leagues.
Happy holidays!
Some of the longer view dynasty focus might actually be useful information about a team or player situation for 2014 that might otherwise be overlooked.
I think you protest too much. Information is information. If you want the discussion to be tailored specifically to your interest, than ask a pointed question, or offer your opinion about redraft or the 2014 season for discussion.
What is useless to you may be useful for someone else. I think with a more open mind, you may actually find some of the dynasty discussion to have information that is actionable in redraft leagues.
Happy holidays!
Check out the 2014 team spotlight threads. Lots of good info in those, albeit not as much discussion
Tau837
Footballguy
Buffaloes
Footballguy
The > is like an alligator. The alligator eats the bigger number because the alligator is hungry.
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dynasty players' knowledge >>>>>>>> redraft players' knowledge
I play strictly redraft. But dynasty guys tend to have better analysis of players' capabilities and the debates are generally more substantive and in-depth. I learn a ton. There are also significantly fewer tools in the threads.
Best time of year IMO.
Louche
Footballguy
What's the difference...it's all football. If you're serious about redraft then dynasty information should be of interest to you as well. Dynasty sleeper today, redraft breakout tomorrow.
cstu
Footballguy
Exactly. There's really not a lot going on for redraft players until training camp starts.
WagesOfZin
Footballguy
rotoworld has forums?
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
If you don't know what you are doing in redraft I pity you.Dynasty gives me a leg up on redraft. All I have to do with redraft is figure out where guys are getting drafted. Not saying I'll win every league but I went deep into the playoffs in every redraft I've done after starting to do it again with friends the past two years. Redraft isnt boring but it is easier. It's only good if you do it with a close group of guys though.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
I've always thought this forum, and the info provided by the site in general, was swayed too far towards redraft.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Why?
I suggested this to save space and consolidate the information into one thread instead of people having to chase down 300 different threads for all of the relevant players.
The Player/Team spotlight thread could be a space used to talk about just one player from the offense. The discussion does not have to be limited to only holistic view points of the team. I think a couple of people have done that. For the most part the players already have threads dedicated to them with discussions already ongoing.
It would like to hear why this was a bad idea for the purpose of improving the process and perhaps increasing participation through those improvements.
This thread may be more of what you are looking for:
2014 All-Emerge Team: Offense, Undervalued players & sleepers
2014 All-Emerge Team: Offense, Undervalued players & sleepers
I do appreciate reading your contributions to those thread, but it seems clear the participation is way way down.
ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Participation down, quality up.
No longer will we have the Jermichael Finley type spotlights where people predict obscene numbers for a TE.
I always enjoyed the average message board prediction alongside the experts and the ability to quickly click through to the spotlight threads from the player pages. It was pretty useful in quick evaluation in the middle of a redraft/shallow keeper draft.I agree the posts are of pretty high quality, but there is also a value in getting a wide range of opinions.
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
How could the spotlight threads be structured so as to encourage more participation?
I am in complete agreement that I would like to read a variety of view points from as many people as possible, especially things from fans of each team who follow their team more closely than I can do. I think I know the ins and outs of the Vikings better than I do other teams for sure. On the flip side of that I may have a purple hue on some of those perspectives so it is valuable to me to see how people who are not fans of a team view that team, their situation and their players.
I think the main difference between a spotlight thread and a regular thread talking about a player, is that the spotlight is more of a official or final projection. So that perspective may lead to less debate/discussion?
It takes quite a bit of time for me to go over everything before presenting a final projection. It may be better to try to start this process earlier on in the season? So there will be more time for debate/discussion within the threads? I think that discussion has been happening. Just not in a spotlight thread. The problem of course of starting that process earlier is we would not know all the changes from free agency and the draft yet, if the spotlight threads were begun in Feb for example? But perhaps that would lead to better quality threads?
For me I do not really track college football. So the winter/spring is when I am spending most of my time researching rookie prospects. Now with the draft delayed 2 weeks, that has left less time post draft for projections. I feel behind in that regard right now and wishing I had done more preparation or better organization to make that process quicker.
I welcome any other suggestions to make the spotlight projections better through more participation. The main idea I have so far is to try to start those threads earlier. At the same time people seem reluctant to start projections (including myself) until they have seen the major personnel changes from free agency and the draft.
I am in complete agreement that I would like to read a variety of view points from as many people as possible, especially things from fans of each team who follow their team more closely than I can do. I think I know the ins and outs of the Vikings better than I do other teams for sure. On the flip side of that I may have a purple hue on some of those perspectives so it is valuable to me to see how people who are not fans of a team view that team, their situation and their players.
I think the main difference between a spotlight thread and a regular thread talking about a player, is that the spotlight is more of a official or final projection. So that perspective may lead to less debate/discussion?
It takes quite a bit of time for me to go over everything before presenting a final projection. It may be better to try to start this process earlier on in the season? So there will be more time for debate/discussion within the threads? I think that discussion has been happening. Just not in a spotlight thread. The problem of course of starting that process earlier is we would not know all the changes from free agency and the draft yet, if the spotlight threads were begun in Feb for example? But perhaps that would lead to better quality threads?
For me I do not really track college football. So the winter/spring is when I am spending most of my time researching rookie prospects. Now with the draft delayed 2 weeks, that has left less time post draft for projections. I feel behind in that regard right now and wishing I had done more preparation or better organization to make that process quicker.
I welcome any other suggestions to make the spotlight projections better through more participation. The main idea I have so far is to try to start those threads earlier. At the same time people seem reluctant to start projections (including myself) until they have seen the major personnel changes from free agency and the draft.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Yeah, I offered spotlight thread input on the Jags and the amount of effort to go thru an entire team's projections is considerable. But it does make you ask yourself questions that you might not ordinarily.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
That is the main reason I do projections, as a process of familiarizing myself with each teams players and situations.
I could see starting the spotlight threads right after the draft when the final pieces are finally in place perhaps leading to more discussion/debate in the spotlight threads. It would be a longer time frame for people to organize and contribute to those threads then.
I could see starting the spotlight threads right after the draft when the final pieces are finally in place perhaps leading to more discussion/debate in the spotlight threads. It would be a longer time frame for people to organize and contribute to those threads then.
Papa John's
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Evil G
Footballguy
This forum is dominantly Dynasty because it is, barring the social dynamics of any individual league, the premier fantasy experience.
Perhaps someone has a ReDraft league run by a master chef, who throws incredible parties, and other league mates include a lawyer, a brewer, a tax accountant, a butcher, a drug dealer, a helpful guy with a pick-up truck and a high-end pimp, all of whom adore and lavish generosity upon their League mates.
That would rock.
But in and of fantasy itself, Football Guys seek out the best experience they can and that is Dynasty. Ergo, this forum.
Perhaps someone has a ReDraft league run by a master chef, who throws incredible parties, and other league mates include a lawyer, a brewer, a tax accountant, a butcher, a drug dealer, a helpful guy with a pick-up truck and a high-end pimp, all of whom adore and lavish generosity upon their League mates.
That would rock.
But in and of fantasy itself, Football Guys seek out the best experience they can and that is Dynasty. Ergo, this forum.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Can't say I agree with the OP, I've only played re-draft up until now and find loads of useful chat and info on here all year round tbh.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Who's redrafting on July 6th anyway
Insein
Footballguy
Goto other forums then. Plenty of redraft info here. We aint here to dumb down the sport for you.
Coupdegrace
Footballguy
Dynasty info will only make you better at redrafts, READ EVERYTHING YOU CAN
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
I kind agree, something's happened from last couple of years to this year. The dialog has not been as wide ranging
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Slow, online draft. 72 hour time limit, turned off from 12:00 midnight eastern time to 12:00 noon eastern time. 25 rounds, 12 teams.
Drunken Benson
Footballguy
LOVE slow drafts/auctions. Weeks of entertainment during the dog days.
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Casting Couch
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Basically echoing others, but keeper/dynasty leaguers have (obviously) longer term horizons and thus tend to be more contemplative in assessing players. If you're in redraft, what happens prior to August may be of little use iuntil camp and preseason games hit full force. For keeper/dynasty owners, every shred of information matters if you're looking long term.
Take a case like Josh Gordon. Most will probably agree that he's going to have little to no use in redraft leagues. But if you're in a keeper/dynasty, you're still watching his situation closely, not just for how long he'll be suspended, but how is value compares to other players if he does come back next year. There are plenty of situations like that - rookie WRs is another example where they tend to have infinitely more allure/value for keeper/dynasty leagues than redraft leagues. And thus, keeper and dynasty leaguers are trying to get a sense early about how they are perceived by their respective teams.
Take a case like Josh Gordon. Most will probably agree that he's going to have little to no use in redraft leagues. But if you're in a keeper/dynasty, you're still watching his situation closely, not just for how long he'll be suspended, but how is value compares to other players if he does come back next year. There are plenty of situations like that - rookie WRs is another example where they tend to have infinitely more allure/value for keeper/dynasty leagues than redraft leagues. And thus, keeper and dynasty leaguers are trying to get a sense early about how they are perceived by their respective teams.
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