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This is the kind of year it's been so far (1 Viewer)
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Diversity is a good thing. I loaded up at WR early in drafts and my RBs are Foster, LT, Hillis and DMC. All of them taken in rd 6 or later.Could not have worked out better.
gandalas
Footballguy
So you got lucky, in other words....
gianmarco
Footballguy
Not usually to this extent. There are usually a couple guys that come out of nowhere. Look at the lists above? With the exception of CJ3, NONE of those guys were expected to do what they are doing. On top of that, all the guys that were expected to are missing.
notdarkyet
Footballguy
This is why the addage that you win your draft in the mid-late rounds has merit.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Exactly....every team that wins in FF usually has guys come out of nowhere.
True, but Jacobs (for example), is RB 25 in my PPR redraft, yet he sits in this top 5. And while he fell massively through the first 5 weeks, we all thought back in August he would be a top 25-30 RB. Where the luck/sharkiness/hawkiness comes through is whether you are willing to cut bait on a high draft pick that underperforms versus others. i have always found that in drafts where I don't do as well "on paper", I perform better over the long haul, because I am more willing to cut loose on some guy I regretted taking in round 14 versus finding my "sleeper" there (who remains asleep to this day). I am literally at a point in my 14 year FF career, where I force myself to cut bait (not due to injury) with a player underperforming in the first couple of weeks. This year it yielded me Hillis in all three of my leagues and I am very thankful that I adopted such a philosophy.
theplayer11
Footballguy
so true..the Nicks, McFaddens, Fosters win leagues....middle round picks to go along with some solid early picks.
doowain
Footballguy
I believe the full adage is....you can win your draft in the middle to late rounds (see Collie/DMC/Foster) and you can lose it in the early rounds (see Fitz/Greene/MJD).
nysportsfan
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Last I checked he doesn't play WR or RB.Where's Gates?
thehornet
Footballguy
so? he leads the league in TD's and he's essentially a WRLast I checked he doesn't play WR or RB.
gianmarco
Footballguy
You may want to reread the OP. I'm pretty sure I listed the top TD scorers at WR and then the top scorers at RB. I didn't list QBs. I didn't list TEs. Why? Because I honestly just didn't feel like it and it wouldn't be as dramatic and IN YOUR FACE SHOCKING if I did. Since I actually authored the thread and decided to bring it up, I think I actually have the right to decide what I actually write and what's included. With that kind of power, I'm leaving Gates out even though "he's essentially a WR".so? he leads the league in TD's and he's essentially a WRLast I checked he doesn't play WR or RB.
The odd thing to me is the separation we have this year.
QB
P. Manning 3 points Per Game ahead of the pack that is within 1 point of each other PG (Brees,Rivers,Ftizpatrick,Rogers,orton,Big Ben)
RB - Seem to Teir out more.
McFadden is 1.7 ahead of Foster and CJ and AP are within point of Foster.
Teir 1 Mcfadden,Foster,CJ,AP (15.4 PPG to 12.8)
Teir 2 Mendenhall,Gore, Mccoy (11 PPG to 10)
Teir 3 Best,Fote,LT, Hills (9.9 PPG to 9)
WR
White, Nicks, Collie are all 12+ PPG
Next level starts at 9.2 to 8.0 in order TO,Britt,Boldin,Wayne,A. johnson
TE
Gates at 13.3
Keller and Clark Are at 9.2 and 9.8 and after that it drops in to 8 PPG area.
So it's not just TD's but overall scoring has gone to some lower draft picks and there seems to be lot more separation this year. There just not advantages so far this year there are big advantages.
QB
P. Manning 3 points Per Game ahead of the pack that is within 1 point of each other PG (Brees,Rivers,Ftizpatrick,Rogers,orton,Big Ben)
RB - Seem to Teir out more.
McFadden is 1.7 ahead of Foster and CJ and AP are within point of Foster.
Teir 1 Mcfadden,Foster,CJ,AP (15.4 PPG to 12.8)
Teir 2 Mendenhall,Gore, Mccoy (11 PPG to 10)
Teir 3 Best,Fote,LT, Hills (9.9 PPG to 9)
WR
White, Nicks, Collie are all 12+ PPG
Next level starts at 9.2 to 8.0 in order TO,Britt,Boldin,Wayne,A. johnson
TE
Gates at 13.3
Keller and Clark Are at 9.2 and 9.8 and after that it drops in to 8 PPG area.
So it's not just TD's but overall scoring has gone to some lower draft picks and there seems to be lot more separation this year. There just not advantages so far this year there are big advantages.
thehornet
Footballguy
You may want to reread the OP. I'm pretty sure I listed the top TD scorers at WR and then the top scorers at RB. I didn't list QBs. I didn't list TEs. Why? Because I honestly just didn't feel like it and it wouldn't be as dramatic and IN YOUR FACE SHOCKING if I did. Since I actually authored the thread and decided to bring it up, I think I actually have the right to decide what I actually write and what's included. With that kind of power, I'm leaving Gates out even though "he's essentially a WR".so? he leads the league in TD's and he's essentially a WRLast I checked he doesn't play WR or RB.
i read it and I dont care about what you think.
Todem
Footballguy
Like the NFL FF has become so year to year as well. A few guys you can always depend on your Peytons, Waynes, Gates...then the rest is luck.
FF has become much tougher the last 5 years. Fortunatly I have been successful but it is friggin hard work. Everyone has a computer and access to everything. I remember when I first started playing in 1990 all the way through 2000...those were the golden years. That was the time you could really have a true edge by watching all the games, scouting your players and having that info locked up in a box while most of your league mates showed up with a fantsty mag and a cheat sheet.
Now the internet tells all.
It is a different landscape and has been for a while. It is tough to keep the edge.
I think this is my cue to exit the game while I am on top.........LOL.
FF has become much tougher the last 5 years. Fortunatly I have been successful but it is friggin hard work. Everyone has a computer and access to everything. I remember when I first started playing in 1990 all the way through 2000...those were the golden years. That was the time you could really have a true edge by watching all the games, scouting your players and having that info locked up in a box while most of your league mates showed up with a fantsty mag and a cheat sheet.
Now the internet tells all.
It is a different landscape and has been for a while. It is tough to keep the edge.
I think this is my cue to exit the game while I am on top.........LOL.
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doowain
Footballguy
Thanks for wasting everyone's time having to read your reply to a thread you don't care about, chief.i read it and I dont care about what you think.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm guessing you may have also had an earlier draft if you got Foster in the sixth or later. He was flying up draft boards closer to the start of the season. I saw him going in the second round of some drafts then. LT, Hillis and DMC were guys everybody could have had. Nice job getting all of them.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
Relax, I didn't read carefully enough. My mistake. And I don't need an apology, it's Mr. Gates that will be unhappy with you if he stumbles in the pool.You may want to reread the OP. I'm pretty sure I listed the top TD scorers at WR and then the top scorers at RB. I didn't list QBs. I didn't list TEs. Why? Because I honestly just didn't feel like it and it wouldn't be as dramatic and IN YOUR FACE SHOCKING if I did. Since I actually authored the thread and decided to bring it up, I think I actually have the right to decide what I actually write and what's included. With that kind of power, I'm leaving Gates out even though "he's essentially a WR".so? he leads the league in TD's and he's essentially a WRLast I checked he doesn't play WR or RB.
thehornet
Footballguy
Yeah sorry for providing valuable info on the leading TD receiver in the league that was left out of the thread. who cares if he is labeled at TE? He is a WR. He rarely ever is solely used to block anymore and he has probably played more snaps in a WR position than 95% of all starting receivers this year.chief.Thanks for wasting everyone's time having to read your reply to a thread you don't care about, chief.
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Chaka
Footballguy
So we're just making numbers up now?
thehornet
Footballguy
no. all facts here.
You forgot Calvin Johnson.. he's at 12+ ppg also
doowain
Footballguy
Can you start Gates as a WR in your league? No? Ok, then. He's a TE. HTH.This thread is about the strange year it's been so far considering who is leading the league in TDs for RBs/WRs. Even if Gates was considered a WR (which he isn't, pal), that would hardly be strange. We expect Gates to be at the top of HIS position. And his position, no matter how much you want to argue against, is TE. Again, hth.Yeah sorry for providing valuable info on the leading TD receiver in the league that was left out of the thread. who cares if he is labeled at TE? He is a WR. He rarely ever is solely used to block anymore and he has probably played more snaps in a WR position than 95% of all starting receivers this year.chief.Thanks for wasting everyone's time having to read your reply to a thread you don't care about, chief.i read it and I dont care about what you think.
You want to talk about Gates and the great year he is having....start your own thread. TIA.
Not in my scoring system he is avg 8 PPG. I should looked up on standard FBG scoring......
thehornet
Footballguy
but do you consider it strange that a TE is leading the league in TD's?Can you start Gates as a WR in your league? No? Ok, then. He's a TE. HTH.This thread is about the strange year it's been so far considering who is leading the league in TDs for RBs/WRs. Even if Gates was considered a WR (which he isn't, pal), that would hardly be strange. We expect Gates to be at the top of HIS position. And his position, no matter how much you want to argue against, is TE. Again, hth.Yeah sorry for providing valuable info on the leading TD receiver in the league that was left out of the thread. who cares if he is labeled at TE? He is a WR. He rarely ever is solely used to block anymore and he has probably played more snaps in a WR position than 95% of all starting receivers this year.chief.Thanks for wasting everyone's time having to read your reply to a thread you don't care about, chief.i read it and I dont care about what you think.
You want to talk about Gates and the great year he is having....start your own thread. TIA.
doowain
Footballguy
No. Gates has had 13 TDs before, so it's nothing new. He's the #1 target of the league's passing leader. Now, if you want to talk about the large gap from TE1 to TE2...ok. But for Gates to be where he's at...while it's awesome, it's not surprising or strange.
thehornet
Footballguy
so a tightend leading the league in TD's is normal. gotcha.
doowain
Footballguy
Last year through 7 games, Vernon Davis was leading the league with 6.In 2008, after 7 games, Gates was one off the league lead with 4.You act as if it's never been done before.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Unless you're in a TD heavy league, this is not a good assessment of FFL production.btw, love your sig.
thehornet
Footballguy
you've got to be joking right now. 13TD's in a season is the All time record for TD's by a tightend. It has happened twice ever. Gates in 2004 and Vernon last year. I repeat NFL record. He is on pace for over 21. Yeah that's NORMAL.
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Chaka
Footballguy
thehornet
Footballguy
noted and i still don't care. The thread says, "this is the kind of year it's been so far - look at the top TD scorers"so i am gonna talk about the guy that leads the league in them.
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doowain
Footballguy
We are wasting our time here man. He's clearly a troll who enjoys hijacking threads. It's great that Gates is on a record breaking pace.....but that wasn't the point of this thread. It was to point out the not so obvious names leading the RBs/WRs in TDs. At TE it's Gates....nothing surprising or strange there, so that's why the OP left TEs out. None of the RBs or WRs are on pace for record breaking seasons. I'm not sure why this guy can't seem to grasp that.Point is.....hornet....if you want to talk about Gates, start your own thread about how amazing he is. I'm done humoring you because you clearly don't get it.
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