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THIS IS THEIR BEST SONG! - Music Draft - Saturday Night's Alright for iFighting (4 Viewers)

Dr. Octopus said:
Love all those songs. I have nothing to back it up but my guess is Werewolves of London was his biggest hit - which is also a great song. 
I miss him too and wish I would have seen him play.
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yeah don't mind me. The holiday/winter blues are setting in. I'll be menopausing on and off for the duration of this draft. That's my daughter's term for it anyway. Makes me laugh anyway. Aahhh ooooooooh werewolves of london

 
Also the Concrete Blonde pick wasn't a snipe but jogged a memory that sent me down a dark path I will share with my next pick I think. It's a kinda cool story about interacting with a lonely rock star online.

 
HOT TAKE ALERT

6.14  John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - Mother

I realize there are many options here.  @wikkidpissahcan make a convincing argument for "Imagine."  @Pip's Invitationmight argue for "#9 Dream," and I know "Beautiful Boy" is @Dr. Octopus's favorite.  This is not my favorite John solo song (that would be "Watching the Wheels," followed closely by "Instant Karma") nor even my favorite from this album (that would be "God"), but in my post-Beatles song countdown I said the following, and I'm sticking by it:

"I think this is John's best song, and maybe the best song in the entire countdown.  But it's so brutal that I sometimes can't even listen to it.  The raw emotion of the increasingly desperate vocal, ending in screams, is a powerful gut punch.  I don't think there's much to say about this song; everyone knows the background of John's abandonment by both his mother and father, and I've discussed it here.  John has said the song wasn't only about his parents, but about 99% of parents everywhere.  Some early versions of the song used guitar in place of the piano, and I'm happy he switched to piano for the final version as I think that stark piano riff is perfect in the context of the stripped down simplicity of the sound and sentiment of the song.  Excruciating and brilliant, it's a song I almost wish I'd never heard."

That Tibetan prayer bell is so ominous, but even it doesn't portend how brutal this gets.

 
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Chaos Commish said:
Sometimes,far mor often than you nerds consider, the biggest hit is the biggest hit for a reason. It's the best song.

Lawyer Guns and Money. After that Keep me in Your Heart is in a tier of it's own for obvious reasons. Then I've always been partial to Carmelita. Miss this guy a lot. 
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I don't want to start a big thing like The Smiths fiasco, but wasn't his biggest hit "Werewolves of London"?
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If you grew listening the sounds of KUFO 98FM back in the day you'd both be swearing on Excitable Boy.

 
krista4 said:
HOT TAKE ALERT

6.14  John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - Mother

I realize there are many options here.  @wikkidpissahcan make a convincing argument for "Imagine."  @Pip's Invitationmight argue for "#9 Dream," and I know "Beautiful Boy" is @Dr. Octopus's favorite.  This is not my favorite John solo song (that would be "Watching the Wheels," followed closely by "Instant Karma") nor even my favorite from this album (that would be "God"), but in my post-Beatles song countdown I said the following, and I'm sticking by it:

"I think this is John's best song, and maybe the best song in the entire countdown.  But it's so brutal that I sometimes can't even listen to it.  The raw emotion of the increasingly desperate vocal, ending in screams, is a powerful gut punch.  I don't think there's much to say about this song; everyone knows the background of John's abandonment by both his mother and father, and I've discussed it here.  John has said the song wasn't only about his parents, but about 99% of parents everywhere.  Some early versions of the song used guitar in place of the piano, and I'm happy he switched to piano for the final version as I think that stark piano riff is perfect in the context of the stripped down simplicity of the sound and sentiment of the song.  Excruciating and brilliant, it's a song I almost wish I'd never heard."

That Tibetan prayer bell is so ominous, but even it doesn't portend how brutal this gets.
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Oh, and I love that he released this as a single, the only one from the whole album.  :lmao:  

 
also, irt Concrete Blonde the cover of Everybody Knows is such an improvment/gut punch, I have drafted it before. Tough call if I like it better than the biggest hit though.

 
Chaos Commish said:
Sometimes,far mor often than you nerds consider, the biggest hit is the biggest hit for a reason. It's the best song.

Lawyer Guns and Money. After that Keep me in Your Heart is in a tier of it's own for obvious reasons. Then I've always been partial to Carmelita. Miss this guy a lot. 
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Chuck Berry had only one #1 record in his entire career, per Billboard Top 100 charts and that was:

My Ding-a-Ling.  :mellow:

So, do you want to seriously argue that My Ding-a-Ling was his best song? That because it was his biggest hit, it is better than, let's say, Roll Over Beethoven or Johnny B. Goode?  :popcorn:

 
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krista4 said:
HOT TAKE ALERT

6.14  John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band - Mother

I realize there are many options here.  @wikkidpissahcan make a convincing argument for "Imagine."  @Pip's Invitationmight argue for "#9 Dream," and I know "Beautiful Boy" is @Dr. Octopus's favorite.  This is not my favorite John solo song (that would be "Watching the Wheels," followed closely by "Instant Karma") nor even my favorite from this album (that would be "God"), but in my post-Beatles song countdown I said the following, and I'm sticking by it:

"I think this is John's best song, and maybe the best song in the entire countdown.  But it's so brutal that I sometimes can't even listen to it.  The raw emotion of the increasingly desperate vocal, ending in screams, is a powerful gut punch.  I don't think there's much to say about this song; everyone knows the background of John's abandonment by both his mother and father, and I've discussed it here.  John has said the song wasn't only about his parents, but about 99% of parents everywhere.  Some early versions of the song used guitar in place of the piano, and I'm happy he switched to piano for the final version as I think that stark piano riff is perfect in the context of the stripped down simplicity of the sound and sentiment of the song.  Excruciating and brilliant, it's a song I almost wish I'd never heard."

That Tibetan prayer bell is so ominous, but even it doesn't portend how brutal this gets.
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Love Mother.  I think my favorite is Remember.

 
Mister CIA said:
Love Mother.  I think my favorite is Remember.
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Love it.  Klaus Voormann and Ringo really make that song. 

A little tidbit about that song that I wrote earlier and you might not know:

"The song was recorded on John’s 30th birthday (10/9/70).  George stopped by Abbey Road Studios in his Ferrari that day to wish John a happy birthday and give him a plastic flower in celebration; the two had a nice visit in a break from John’s recording of the song.  A not-so-successful visit occurred the same day, as John had invited his father, Alf Lennon, for lunch.  Alf, his wife, and their 18-month-old son (whom John had never met) joined John, but the get-together turned into a lengthy tirade by John against his father, utilizing learnings from his primal scream therapy .  According to Alf, John, becoming ever more angry and ending in screams, described the therapy he had undergone and shouted about his dead mother “in unspeakable terms,” then turning to similar rants against his Aunt Mimi and some of his close friends, before comparing himself to Hendrix and others who had died and calling himself “bloody mad, insane” and predicting an early death for himself as well.  Alf concluded:  “There was no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that he meant every word he spoke, his countenance was frightful to behold, as he explained in detail, how I would be carried out to sea and dumped, ‘twenty – fifty – or perhaps you would prefer a hundred fathoms deep.’ The whole loathsome tirade was uttered with malignant glee, as though he were actually participating in the terrible deed.”  This was the last time that John ever saw his father."

 
Mister CIA said:
Love Mother.  I think my favorite is Remember.
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Ooh. Nice call, I didn't remember Remember until you remembered me. I think a big dose of Mother will settle my nerves. Muchas Gracias Master CIA y tu tambien K4. Practicing for Cabo. 

eta, but wikkid is right about the biggest hit :)

 
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krista4 said:
Love it.  Klaus Voormann and Ringo really make that song. 

A little tidbit about that song that I wrote earlier and you might not know:

"The song was recorded on John’s 30th birthday (10/9/70).  George stopped by Abbey Road Studios in his Ferrari that day to wish John a happy birthday and give him a plastic flower in celebration; the two had a nice visit in a break from John’s recording of the song.  A not-so-successful visit occurred the same day, as John had invited his father, Alf Lennon, for lunch.  Alf, his wife, and their 18-month-old son (whom John had never met) joined John, but the get-together turned into a lengthy tirade by John against his father, utilizing learnings from his primal scream therapy .  According to Alf, John, becoming ever more angry and ending in screams, described the therapy he had undergone and shouted about his dead mother “in unspeakable terms,” then turning to similar rants against his Aunt Mimi and some of his close friends, before comparing himself to Hendrix and others who had died and calling himself “bloody mad, insane” and predicting an early death for himself as well.  Alf concluded:  “There was no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that he meant every word he spoke, his countenance was frightful to behold, as he explained in detail, how I would be carried out to sea and dumped, ‘twenty – fifty – or perhaps you would prefer a hundred fathoms deep.’ The whole loathsome tirade was uttered with malignant glee, as though he were actually participating in the terrible deed.”  This was the last time that John ever saw his father."
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I'll bet at some point in that conversation that Alf responded with a well-timed, "Well, well, well."

 
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squistion said:
Chuck Berry had only one #1 record in his entire career, per Billboard Top 100 charts and that was:

My Ding-a-Ling.  :mellow:

So, do you want to seriously argue that My Ding-a-Ling was his best song? That because it was his biggest hit, it is better than, let's say, Roll Over Beethoven or Johnny B. Goode?  :popcorn:
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If I have learned one thing in this thread, it would be - the charts don't lie! 🤷‍♂️

 
squistion said:
Chuck Berry had only one #1 record in his entire career, per Billboard Top 100 charts and that was:

My Ding-a-Ling.  :mellow:

So, do you want to seriously argue that My Ding-a-Ling was his best song? That because it was his biggest hit, it is better than, let's say, Roll Over Beethoven or Johnny B. Goode?  :popcorn:
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He did say "sometimes" 

 
6.15 Bartender Dave matthews

i know I’ll probably get roasted here, but I really love Dave. He’s my wife’s favorite and we have seen him concert 3 times. I wanted to go grey street here, but Bartender (linked here to radio city set with Tim Reynolds) is just such a great song. Anyway flame away.

 
tuffnutt said:
6.15 Bartender Dave matthews

i know I’ll probably get roasted here, but I really love Dave. He’s my wife’s favorite and we have seen him concert 3 times. I wanted to go grey street here, but Bartender (linked here to radio city set with Tim Reynolds) is just such a great song. Anyway flame away.
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yes, Dave is very polarizing.

I am in Antarctica on this one.

stay the course my friend.

 
tuffnutt said:
6.15 Bartender Dave matthews

i know I’ll probably get roasted here, but I really love Dave. He’s my wife’s favorite and we have seen him concert 3 times. I wanted to go grey street here, but Bartender (linked here to radio city set with Tim Reynolds) is just such a great song. Anyway flame away.
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Under the Table and Dreaming was a great album for acid drop nights in college.  A Typical Situation is my personal favorite.   

 
tuffnutt said:
6.15 Bartender Dave matthews

i know I’ll probably get roasted here, but I really love Dave. He’s my wife’s favorite and we have seen him concert 3 times. I wanted to go grey street here, but Bartender (linked here to radio city set with Tim Reynolds) is just such a great song. Anyway flame away.
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I'll always have a soft spot for Dave.  Haven't seen him in close to a decade now but he's always a guilty favorite.  My first several internet username iterations all had the number 41 in it, as a teenage homage.

 
Captain Cranks said:
Under the Table and Dreaming was a great album for acid drop nights in college.  A Typical Situation is my personal favorite.   
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I've always had a weird thing for "Don't Drink the Water" 

Dave was one of those albums that everybody had when I was in college.  When he came to campus it was a pretty epic event.

 
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Eephus said:
Whenever Concrete Blonde is drafted, it's customary for me to post the video of Johnette Napolitano falling off the stage.
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The drama started during the opening set, when Napolitano wandered out on stage ahead of schedule. "During the last song Johnette came out and was totally incoherent," says Amanda Rebholz, who attended the show and is a longtime fan of Napolitano and Concrete Blonde. "She sat on the other bar stool and [the other singer] tried to keep playing but Johnette was singing over her and talking over her. It was very weird."
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Yeah. She's the topic of my dark story about interacting with a rock star online. The cautionary tale continues. This was in the Fall of 05. She's warm, smart as can be, generous to engage in real conversations with those who chatted her up on MySpace back then and tragically damaged drowning the pain in alcohol. 

 
6.16 - Squeeze - Another Nail In My Heart  (Live at the 100 Club 2011)

https://youtu.be/NyIM5HG_nV0

Of all the picks I have made this was the hardest decision. There are two obvious choices that would probably be found 95% of the time on any best song list: Tempted and Black Coffee In Bed. Both are great songs, but have been so overplayed that I am a bit tired of them, so I thought I would go with a selection that was a minor hit that they have significantly improved over time. It is the one that I play more now than anything else from their catalog. 

Glenn Tillbrook was never given his due as a lead guitarist and he really shines here. The song is bouncier and the tempo picked up slightly from the original with the help of the keyboards. Plus Chris Difford's somewhat raspy harmonization with Tillbrook is the best I have ever heard on this song (including prior live versions). Hands down the best version and would have been a lot more popular  if they had done it this way to begin with.

 
squistion said:
6.16 - Squeeze - Another Nail In My Heart  (Live at the 100 Club 2011)

https://youtu.be/NyIM5HG_nV0

Of all the picks I have made this was the hardest decision. There are two obvious choices that would probably be found 95% of the time on any best song list: Tempted and Black Coffee In Bed. Both are great songs, but have been so overplayed that I am a bit tired of them, so I thought I would go with a selection that was a minor hit that they have significantly improved over time. It is the one that I play more now than anything else from their catalog. 

Glenn Tillbrook was never given his due as a lead guitarist and he really shines here. The song is bouncier and the tempo picked up slightly from the original with the help of the keyboards. Plus Chris Difford's somewhat raspy harmonization with Tillbrook is the best I have ever heard on this song (including prior live versions). Hands down the best version and would have been a lot more popular  if they had done it this way to begin with.
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Love it.  Assume this is one of the bands ilov80s was talking about ("tempted" gave it away, I think?).

@Steve Tasker OTC

 
Ilov80s said:
Oh that would have made sense but it wasn't the clue. That was an unintentional red herring. 
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:lmao:   Honestly I thought Squeeze wasn't an obvious choice nor one that you would have thought to be, so I was surprised.  I'm not going to go re-read for more clues.

 
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