This year's AFC Final Four (1 Viewer)

[Pat Patriot]

I think Assani's post sums up what this thread was supposed to be about. The teams this year are better than last year. They dont have more past SB titles. They dont garner better TV ratings. They arent more popular with certain Pittsburghians. They are just better teams. Maybe not the all time best Conference Final 4 but certainly better than last years.

That's subjective. I disagree.

EG,I like you man, but you're coming across as quite the homer here. This is a discussion of greatest divisional round OF ALL TIME, and many people were saying that it just might be. Then you came in and said that its not even better than last years when your favorite team won the SB. Can't you see how you might be just a little bit biased?

Assani,Nice job. You are really on point in this thread. Keep up the good work.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I'm wondering if this weekend's AFC games provide the divisional round in NFL playoff history.All 4 are division champs, which I don't think has happened since the NFL went to four divisions. The teams have combined for 51 wins, which I think ties for the best mark (2003: NE was 14-2 vs. 12-4 Tenn; 13-3 KC playd 12-4 Indy). They've won 4 of the last 6 Super Bowls (granted, NE has won three of them).And the storylines are compelling - #1 O vs. #1 D; can Manning get it done; the Colts return to Baltimore; Marty vs. Bellichik; can LT cap one of the great seasons ever with a title, etc.?I think a good argument can be made this is in fact the best Final 4 in divisional playoff history. Should be a great weekend.

I would have to say the year where it was the 49ers, Cowboys, Eagles, and Packers in 95 was the best ever. The Cowboys, Niners, and Packers combined to win 5 straight and the Pack was runner up once.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I think Assani's post sums up what this thread was supposed to be about. The teams this year are better than last year. They dont have more past SB titles. They dont garner better TV ratings. They arent more popular with certain Pittsburghians. They are just better teams. Maybe not the all time best Conference Final 4 but certainly better than last years.

That's subjective. I disagree.

EG,I like you man, but you're coming across as quite the homer here. This is a discussion of greatest divisional round OF ALL TIME, and many people were saying that it just might be. Then you came in and said that its not even better than last years when your favorite team won the SB. Can't you see how you might be just a little bit biased?

Sure, and I admitted that my bias probably had a lot to do with my saying so, on more than one occasion. I'm not so myopic as to be completely unaware of what formulates my opinions. However, I am of the mind that along with good teams, teams that have tradition, history, good rivalries, large fan bases, generate national interest, etc.. also make for more intriguing matchups. Whether this year's final 4 teams are better than last year's, who knows? It's debatable, and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. The only point I was trying to make is that Pittsburgh and Denver have a greater playoff history, a larger fan base, and generally create more buzz than San Diego and Baltimore. If anyone thinks these things have nothing to do with whether or not this year's matchups are better, that's fine. I just disagree, and I've merely been trying to provide evidence to back up the statements I made. It doesn't mean anyone else has to buy into it.

 

[Hunterbeer]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

 

[Hunterbeer]

To the subject at hand, the mid 1970s had probably the best run of four, and even eight teams, going at the end of the day. (The exception is that incredible NFC run mentioned earlier.)

To mention total number of wins is just misleading as teams played fewer games for many years. So of course the division winners should have more wins if they are playing two more games a year.

1974: Two-time defending Super Bowls Champions (been to three straight SBs) Miami Dolphins (11-3) fall to the Oakland Raiders (12-2) while eventual Super Bowl Champions the Pittsburgh Steelers (10-3-1) defeat Buffalo (9-5).

1975: Pittsburgh (12-2) vs. Baltimore (10-4) and Oakland (11-3) vs. Cincinnati (11-3)

1976: Eventual Super Bowl Champs Oakland (13-1) vs. New England (11-3) and two-time defending champs Pittsburgh (10-4) vs. Baltimore (11-3)

This 1976 AFC winning percentage stands at .804, eclipsing the current .797 of the teams playing this weekend.

The NFC at this time had the final years of the great Viking run coinciding with the rise of the Cowboys.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

I ignored that and the punctuation. Let it not be said that I am unmerciful.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

To the subject at hand, the mid 1970s had probably the best run of four, and even eight teams, going at the end of the day. (The exception is that incredible NFC run mentioned earlier.)To mention total number of wins is just misleading as teams played fewer games for many years. So of course the division winners should have more wins if they are playing two more games a year.1974: Two-time defending Super Bowls Champions (been to three straight SBs) Miami Dolphins (11-3) fall to the Oakland Raiders (12-2) while eventual Super Bowl Champions the Pittsburgh Steelers (10-3-1) defeat Buffalo (9-5).1975: Pittsburgh (12-2) vs. Baltimore (10-4) and Oakland (11-3) vs. Cincinnati (11-3)1976: Eventual Super Bowl Champs Oakland (13-1) vs. New England (11-3) and two-time defending champs Pittsburgh (10-4) vs. Baltimore (11-3)This 1976 AFC winning percentage stands at .804, eclipsing the current .797 of the teams playing this weekend. The NFC at this time had the final years of the great Viking run coinciding with the rise of the Cowboys.

Some good facts here. My contention that last year was better than this year aside, the lesson to be learned here is that people bandy about the "best of all-time" tag with way too much frequency these days.

 

[gman74]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

I ignored that and the punctuation. Let it not be said that I am unmerciful.

I am a IT guy not a secretary or asking if someone want's fries with that like yourself

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

I ignored that and the punctuation. Let it not be said that I am unmerciful.

I am a IT guy not a secretary or asking if someone want's fries with that like yourself

It's "wants" fries, not "want's." It's also well known around these parts that I am an Ops Manager. The IT guys answer to me. But enough of that.Much as I predicted, the Patriots knocked off San Diego, which I think speaks to my contention that last year's Broncos were a better team than this year's Chargers. It's funny, though, that the last couple of years, people anticipated a New England/Indy conference title game, and it finally happens this year when neither team was favored to reach this point.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

I ignored that and the punctuation. Let it not be said that I am unmerciful.

I am a IT guy not a secretary or asking if someone want's fries with that like yourself

It's "wants" fries, not "want's." It's also well known around these parts that I am an Ops Manager. The IT guys answer to me. But enough of that.Much as I predicted, the Patriots knocked off San Diego, which I think speaks to my contention that last year's Broncos were a better team than this year's Chargers. It's funny, though, that the last couple of years, people anticipated a New England/Indy conference title game, and it finally happens this year when neither team was favored to reach this point.

Ops Manager? You mean professional cross-word puzzler?? that's all our ops manager does all day long

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

I ignored that and the punctuation. Let it not be said that I am unmerciful.

I am a IT guy not a secretary or asking if someone want's fries with that like yourself

It's "wants" fries, not "want's." It's also well known around these parts that I am an Ops Manager. The IT guys answer to me. But enough of that.Much as I predicted, the Patriots knocked off San Diego, which I think speaks to my contention that last year's Broncos were a better team than this year's Chargers. It's funny, though, that the last couple of years, people anticipated a New England/Indy conference title game, and it finally happens this year when neither team was favored to reach this point.

Ops Manager? You mean professional cross-word puzzler?? that's all our ops manager does all day long

:whoosh: It's a weird job - it goes from a pressure cooker to a waltz in the park from minute to minute. I don't do crossword puzzles though - I post here instead.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I haven't once backed off or softened my stance on this issue. you can double talk to that.

What are you talking about? You really should go find every teacher you ever had growing up and beat the hell out of them for failing you so miserably.

now who is attacking who. ill let my grad school professors know that

Also let them know it is "who is attacking whom."

I ignored that and the punctuation. Let it not be said that I am unmerciful.

I am a IT guy not a secretary or asking if someone want's fries with that like yourself

It's "wants" fries, not "want's." It's also well known around these parts that I am an Ops Manager. The IT guys answer to me. But enough of that.Much as I predicted, the Patriots knocked off San Diego, which I think speaks to my contention that last year's Broncos were a better team than this year's Chargers. It's funny, though, that the last couple of years, people anticipated a New England/Indy conference title game, and it finally happens this year when neither team was favored to reach this point.

Ops Manager? You mean professional cross-word puzzler?? that's all our ops manager does all day long

It's a weird job - it goes from a pressure cooker to a waltz in the park from minute to minute. I don't do crossword puzzles though - I post here instead.

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