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This year's Big time WR sleeper is... (1 Viewer)

I still don't consider these guys "big time sleepers". They are good value at current ADP.
That's the problem - too much ambiguity over the word "sleeper". It seems everyone has their own idea about what exactly that means. If you want to go with a lesser known sleeper, I'll offer up Rashaun Woods, but I'm much more convinced that Matt Jones will provide greater value.
 
Not a big time sleeper, but nice value - Amani Toomer

He's only 32

Finished as WR 33 last season

ADP - 52

 
I can't handle the suspense. It is way after Aug. 1st!

:actually I was doing a search for something else, and came across this SWEET thread:

 
Not a big time sleeper, but nice value - Amani ToomerHe's only 32Finished as WR 33 last seasonADP - 52
just looks pathetic, a big yellow M endorsing toomer....but he is my super value play of 06 as well
After week 10 last year he was very good, especially in point per reception leagues. It seemed like everytime Eli got in trouble he looker for Toomer. Providing that the Giants offense progresses this year, he should be in line for a very good year.
 
Last year S Smith's auction value was $8-10 with an ADP in the 40s, SMoss's auction value was $2 with an ADP of 80 or so.  This year two of the best WR values in the draft are?

I'll drop a clue a day until they're taken in my first draft.  Should be early Aug.  IF you guess who it is, I will reveal the sleepers/value picks with detailed arguments and projections.  IF you don't guess, I will reveal after my draft with the same arguments and projections.   Its all about value...
not to be :bag: , but who are you and why should anyone care who your sleeper is? Did you predict Smith/Moss/Galloway last year?
SSmith yes, value in SMoss yes, Galloway no his injuries in the previous years killed me...I didn't think he could go the year without pulling a hamstring. I am no one, you shouldn't care what I say. This was just a way to discuss values at the WR position. I think it is the most difficult position to predict from year to year. Thank you for contributing to the conversation.
Coles and Mark Clayton are far from Steve Smith/Santana Moss you freaking tool.Neither will break 1k yards, much less the top 10.

It's easy to sleep on the old Pennington/Coles tandem that was hot for all of one season, but if you remember, he didn't even have a TD rapport with Chad, much less did he break the top 10 (13).

What good is a speed receiver without his speed? Why do you think Gibbs got rid of him and brought in someone who was fast?

Coles = garbage.

He might well outperform his WR31 ADP, but for 8 or 900 yards and a handful of TDs? Is that top-10? Not a chance.

As stated earlier, Mark Clayton is the third receiving option for Steve McNair, which means he's not going to do anything spectacular this year. He'd have a better shot with Boller at the helm.

I fail immensely to see how either will break the top-10, and as you are off making these gaudy comparisons, you just waste everyone's time and try to make yourself look important.

If you have something to share with the board, share it. Don't try to act like you know what the hell you're talking about when you just make stuff up and try to act like the info you provide is better than anyone else's around here. It's not.

Clayton and Coles? Wow, thanks for your wonderful contribution. I'll keep that in mind when they blow away their WR31 and WR47 ADPs with WR28 and WR40 stats.

Thanks again!

This board needs a :tool: smiley.

If you want to "talk about sleeper WRs" start a thread called "Lets talk about sleeper WRs". Don't try to Wizard of Oz the Sharks.

BTW, your two top-10 sleepers of comparable ADPs as '04 Smith/Moss/Galloway are Andre Johnson (WR17), and Reggie Brown (WR27).

Enjoy!

 
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Last year S Smith's auction value was $8-10 with an ADP in the 40s, SMoss's auction value was $2 with an ADP of 80 or so.  This year two of the best WR values in the draft are?

I'll drop a clue a day until they're taken in my first draft.  Should be early Aug.  IF you guess who it is, I will reveal the sleepers/value picks with detailed arguments and projections.  IF you don't guess, I will reveal after my draft with the same arguments and projections.   Its all about value...
not to be :bag: , but who are you and why should anyone care who your sleeper is? Did you predict Smith/Moss/Galloway last year?
SSmith yes, value in SMoss yes, Galloway no his injuries in the previous years killed me...I didn't think he could go the year without pulling a hamstring. I am no one, you shouldn't care what I say. This was just a way to discuss values at the WR position. I think it is the most difficult position to predict from year to year. Thank you for contributing to the conversation.
Coles and Mark Clayton are far from Steve Smith/Santana Moss you freaking tool.Neither will break 1k yards, much less the top 10.

It's easy to sleep on the old Pennington/Coles tandem that was hot for all of one season, but if you remember, he didn't even have a TD rapport with Chad, much less did he break the top 10 (13).

What good is a speed receiver without his speed? Why do you think Gibbs got rid of him and brought in someone who was fast?

Coles = garbage.

He might well outperform his WR31 ADP, but for 8 or 900 yards and a handful of TDs? Is that top-10? Not a chance.

As stated earlier, Mark Clayton is the third receiving option for Steve McNair, which means he's not going to do anything spectacular this year. He'd have a better shot with Boller at the helm.

I fail immensely to see how either will break the top-10, and as you are off making these gaudy comparisons, you just waste everyone's time and try to make yourself look important.

If you have something to share with the board, share it. Don't try to act like you know what the hell you're talking about when you just make stuff up and try to act like the info you provide is better than anyone else's around here. It's not.

Clayton and Coles? Wow, thanks for your wonderful contribution. I'll keep that in mind when they blow away their WR31 and WR47 ADPs with WR28 and WR40 stats.

Thanks again!

This board needs a :tool: smiley.

If you want to "talk about sleeper WRs" start a thread called "Lets talk about sleeper WRs". Don't try to Wizard of Oz the Sharks.

BTW, your two top-10 sleepers of comparable ADPs as '04 Smith/Moss/Galloway are Andre Johnson (WR17), and Reggie Brown (WR27).

Enjoy!
MLBrandow = Macdaddy
 
MLBrandow said:
Coles and Mark Clayton are far from Steve Smith/Santana Moss you freaking tool.
Geez, did someone forget to take their medicine this morning?
MLBrandow said:
BTW, your two top-10 sleepers of comparable ADPs as '04 Smith/Moss/Galloway are Andre Johnson (WR17), and Reggie Brown (WR27).Enjoy!
Good pics! :thumbup:
 
i like Michael Clayton and his skill set... but McNair at QB? Last year it seemed like he couldn't throw down field or to the WRs... only TEs... now he has Heap and Mason back.... not lookin too good for Clayton

 
i like Michael Clayton and his skill set... but McNair at QB? Last year it seemed like he couldn't throw down field or to the WRs... only TEs... now he has Heap and Mason back.... not lookin too good for Clayton
I mean, not to mention McNair brings several problems in for Clayton....- never passed for 3,400+ yards- never thrown more than 24 TDs- never had more than 500 pass attempts in a seasonFor all of the love of the upgrade at QB, Boller was on pace for about 3200/20 last season. That's not much worse than what we should expect of McNair.I love Mark Clayton as much as the next guy, but he's not going to breakout behind Mason and Heap. And as good as that Ravens Defense is, it's going to be very, very hard to breakout with McNair playing hand-off man most of the time AND being the third option in a conservative passing attack.
 
Any update on who the big sleeper WR was?
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Mark Clayton? Is the proposition that he is going to be the kind of value that Steve Smith and Santana Moss were last year? If so, I think it's completely preposterous. He is a 2nd year WR and is the #2 option on his team. Now, he could be good value, especially in dynasty leagues, but I don't think he will be this year's ultimate sleeper. If anything, the other Clayton has a better shot at that title.
 
The only sleeper in this entire post is me. Wake me up when you come up with guys that will outperform their draft position.

 
Glad to see all the wonderful posters that took the time to post actually comprehend what they read. On July 20 http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...2&t=252498#, I spelled out the two WRs I had in mind. I also added to the post, that my intention was to create discussion on value WRs. WRs I said, were one of the tougher positions to rank, there is more variability than with other positions. Thanks to all those that took the time to add something.

Clayton has been hampered by a hamstring injury and McNair has looked anything but sharp so far in camp. Pennington has looked sharp, I haven't heard much on Coles. One would think, any stability at the QB position would only help the Jets 1st rec. option. The running game is still up in the air. I'm liking Coles more than Clayton right now but if Clayton is healthy he will double last year's numbers.

A couple of guys mentioned in this thread are flying way under the radar so far this year. Moulds is aging but should produce opposite AJohnson. I like ABryant in SF and Greg Jennings in GB was a very nice pull two and a half weeks ago.

 
Clayton has been hampered by a hamstring injury and McNair has looked anything but sharp so far in camp. Pennington has looked sharp, I haven't heard much on Coles. One would think, any stability at the QB position would only help the Jets 1st rec. option. The running game is still up in the air. I'm liking Coles more than Clayton right now but if Clayton is healthy he will double last year's numbers.
So Coles/Clayton are still top-10 locks?Thanks again :IBTL:
 
Clayton has been hampered by a hamstring injury and McNair has looked anything but sharp so far in camp. Pennington has looked sharp, I haven't heard much on Coles. One would think, any stability at the QB position would only help the Jets 1st rec. option. The running game is still up in the air. I'm liking Coles more than Clayton right now but if Clayton is healthy he will double last year's numbers.
So Coles/Clayton are still top-10 locks?Thanks again :IBTL:
you no read good
 
thanks for bumping this trash thread :thumbdown:

Any update on who the big sleeper WR was?
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As stated earlier, Mark Clayton is the third receiving option for Steve McNair, which means he's not going to do anything spectacular this year. He'd have a better shot with Boller at the helm.Better shot with Boller? :lmao: Are you serious? Your post WAS the waste of time. I love it when guys, like you, are more interested in clowning on someone than bringing anything of real substance to the table, You're attitude and arrogance have been duly noted. Take both of them somewhere else Dbag :bag: .

 
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There is no such thing as a sleeper anyway. With the internet and constant fantasy football attention, there is no sleeper.

 

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