Thomas Davis Out for Season (1 Viewer)

[CB31]

Now that Thomas Davis has torn his ACL for the 2nd time in 7 months, how does this affect the Panthers (specifically their LB depth) and his value in dynasty leagues? Tough loss, that's for sure.

 

[coolnerd]

Might want to link a story like that

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Panthe...d-torn-ACL.html

Disaster struck for the Carolina Panthers as they have learned that linebacker Thomas Davis will miss the 2010 season with a torn ACL, the second time in less than a year he has suffered such an injury.

Davis was backpedaling next to teammate Jon Beason during individual drills in practice and went down with a torn right ACL, according to Darin Gantt of the Charlotte Observer. Davis tore his right ACL in similar fashion back in November when he was injured in a non-contact play at New Orleans.

Now, Davis will need a second surgery to replace the ligament after such a quick return from the first ACL. He ran a 40-yard dash in 4.47 seconds recently at the team’s testing day, per Gantt. He was emerging as a leader and was lining up for a big pay day when the Panthers come around and start spending some money. Davis was tendered as a restricted free agent for $3.268 million for this season. Now, he’ll have a much more difficult time landing the longterm pay day.

 

[CB31]

Might want to link a story like that

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Panthe...d-torn-ACL.html

Disaster struck for the Carolina Panthers as they have learned that linebacker Thomas Davis will miss the 2010 season with a torn ACL, the second time in less than a year he has suffered such an injury.

Davis was backpedaling next to teammate Jon Beason during individual drills in practice and went down with a torn right ACL, according to Darin Gantt of the Charlotte Observer. Davis tore his right ACL in similar fashion back in November when he was injured in a non-contact play at New Orleans.

Now, Davis will need a second surgery to replace the ligament after such a quick return from the first ACL. He ran a 40-yard dash in 4.47 seconds recently at the team’s testing day, per Gantt. He was emerging as a leader and was lining up for a big pay day when the Panthers come around and start spending some money. Davis was tendered as a restricted free agent for $3.268 million for this season. Now, he’ll have a much more difficult time landing the longterm pay day.

Sorry, you're right. I'm kinda new to this stuff. I'll make sure to do it in the future.

 

[coolnerd]

Not a problem. On defensive players there usually is more discussion (even in terms of team defense) in the IDP forum which I am going to link

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=535245

 

[Dave Larkin]

Damn... that's all I have to say. TD doesn't deserve this.

 

[treat88]

Damn... that's all I have to say. TD doesn't deserve this.

Agreed.Although I can think of very few players that actually do deserve something like this.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Davis had grown into one of the most dynamic, all-around OLB in the league over the past three seasons. He'll be impossible to replace.

I think the trade of Chris Harris for Jamar Williams was a sign that the Panthers may no longer have felt that Dan Connor was a fit at OLB in what had become mostly a Cover-2 front. I think Williams steps in for Davis, Anderson remains on the strong side and Connor stays a backup.

 

[Sweet Love]

This is from Fanball:

Panthers not placing Davis on IR

The News

Updating a previous report, the Panthers have decided to not to place Thomas Davis on the injured reserve list in the hope that he can return for the second half of the season, according to NFL.com.

Our View

Davis re-tore his ACL on Tuesday and it was thought that he was done for the year, but it now appears he may be able to work his way back into a game at some point in the second half. That view seems very optimistic, but the Panthers have nothing to lose by waiting to IR him as he can go on the PUP list for the first nine weeks of the season.

This is my personal take (not Fanball's)

I hope for his sake that they do not rush him back (or he does not rush himself back). While many ACL tears happen w/o contact involved, it is not "typical" for this to happen in the same knee twice in such a short period of time (unless he was truly not healed). I'd be interested in the take of those that think athletes get "otherworldly" medical treatment/rehab/advice. Someone screwed up here, and it looks like they may be trying to make the same mistake twice.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Tough loss for the Panthers.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I was expecting big things from Davis this year. There was no doubt in my mind that he and Beason would've teamed up to be the best MLB and OLB combo in the league. Jene thinks Dan Conner will remain a backup in the Panthers LB corps, but it's possible that Beason will be moved to OLB (W) and Conner will occupy the middle. I know the Panthers will want to have the three best LBs on the field, even if it means switching things up. To further mud the picture, Beason practiced on the outside today, which tells me the Panthers are looking into all options.

I do know this - Carolina allowed an average of 161 yards rushing per game in the first five games after Davis' got hurt in 2009. Losing him is crushing, cruel and punishing all in one. For him to suffer the same injury on the same knee in such little time after the procedure, it has got to be eating at him. Didn't he hurt it last time, while back pedaling too? I do question him being on the field, practicing and running plays during his rehab. It's June. What the heck is he doing on the field now anyway? He should've been doing his own workouts and playing it safe. At least that's my take on this. Davis was on his way to being a Pro-Bowl LB last year and for it to happen again is a punch in the gut.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I do know this - Carolina allowed an average of 161 yards rushing per game in the first five games after Davis' got hurt in 2009. Losing him is crushing, cruel and punishing all in one.

This year they'll have time to prepare and adjust.

 

[Mr.Underhill]

What the heck is he doing on the field now anyway? He should've been doing his own workouts and playing it safe.

Dude, look how he tore it. Back-pedaling in a drill.The only way you eliminate the risk of that sort of freakish tear is to have him immobilized in a body cast and layed up on his couch. If his knee is that unstable, it could have torn just as easily during his own workouts or trying to swat a fly at his Memorial Day BBQ.His docs cleared him to run. He was running. Running is part of rehab. I'm not seeing the recklessness.

 

[Sweet Love]

What the heck is he doing on the field now anyway? He should've been doing his own workouts and playing it safe.

Dude, look how he tore it. Back-pedaling in a drill.The only way you eliminate the risk of that sort of freakish tear is to have him immobilized in a body cast and layed up on his couch. If his knee is that unstable, it could have torn just as easily during his own workouts or trying to swat a fly at his Memorial Day BBQ.His docs cleared him to run. He was running. Running is part of rehab. I'm not seeing the recklessness.

ACL tears are just as likely to happen in contact as they are without contact. It has to do with planting and pivoting and the rest of the body going against the grain of what the planted foot/leg is doing. Contact certainly exascerbates the amount of pressure, but it still happens all the time without contact. He SHOULD have been running on a track. Back peddling drills and the such create situations that require pivots and change of direction. Beyond that, he is not going to "take it easy" in a drill amongst his peers, so he probably exploded out of his stance. Either way, pretty dumb on all sides around for him to have been out there.

 

[saintfool]

this is from the local newspaper's beat writer...

But Beason and Anderson are both athletic enough to play the weakside if need be, meaning the Panthers could fiddle with a number of combinations. If they slid Beason outside (where many projected him to play coming out of college due to a lack of size), they'd use Dan Connor in the middle. Or they could let Anderson play the weakside and plug Connor in there (as was hinted earlier this offseason).

Mostly, their goal is to put the three best athletes on the field, and that's likely going to narrow it to some combination of the four players. Connor's the slow one of the group, but he lost weight last offseason in order to handle the increased coverage responsibilities of the middle linebacker in coordinator Ron Meeks' Tampa-2system.

In that scheme, plays flow to the weakside, so you want a fluid athlete there to collect run plays. The strongside has more coverage responsibilities, particularly of tight ends, and is asked to do more run-stopping.

The Panthers do have options beyond those first four, but few with experience.

Special teamers Jordan Senn and Quinton Culberson could play on the weakside, but they're here for their ability to run down kicks.

Fourth-round pick Eric Norwood could get some snaps on the strongside (where he played at South Carolina), but he's still a project as a linebacker and his short-term contribution will be as a pass-rush specialist

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I don't think any of the options Carolina has right now is good. I thought their defense was below average even with Davis, so this puts a major hurt on the Panthers.