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Was dropped, picking up as a Michael coverCut a playoff-time RB1? Not bloody likely.
Not really worried about Michael. Just need Rawls to get healthy. I realize that's the minority opinion.
Was dropped, picking up as a Michael coverCut a playoff-time RB1? Not bloody likely.
Not really worried about Michael. Just need Rawls to get healthy. I realize that's the minority opinion.
Why would it be time now if it wasn't last week?Anyone cut yet? Trying to gauge if it's time.
It might be a minority, but both his head coach and offensive coordinator are in that group. I think their opinions count a bit more than most.Cut a playoff-time RB1? Not bloody likely.
Not really worried about Michael. Just need Rawls to get healthy. I realize that's the minority opinion.
Michael has the job to lose. Rawls, if he comes back, is the handcuff clearly.Cut a playoff-time RB1? Not bloody likely.
Not really worried about Michael. Just need Rawls to get healthy. I realize that's the minority opinion.
Maybe - wouldn't be so sure about that though.Michael has the job to lose. Rawls, if he comes back, is the handcuff clearly.
Cut weeks ago. Got no room short bench. Hes hurt and didnt look right before the recent injury. Rbbc if he comes back 100%Anyone cut yet? Trying to gauge if it's time.
Exactly. CMike has outshined since the preseason. No reason for him to not be the guy.Based on what?
I own Rawls and believe me, I need him to be the starter but it's not like he was the established vet starter coming off a major injury with job assured. He had a nice stretch of games and flashed. Nothing more and we knew this when we drafted him.Exactly. CMike has outshined since the preseason. No reason for him to not be the guy.
I dumped him in a short bench league. For comparison sake I also dumped Ware and DeAngelo. Nobody has jumped on any of them. Rawls didn't look good before the injury. Between recovering from last year's injury, this new injury that was more serious than initially believed, CMike looking excellent and Rawls having only a small amount of success, it's hard to expect Rawls to come back at the level he was playing at last year AND overtake CMikeI own Rawls and believe me, I need him to be the starter but it's not like he was the established vet starter coming off a major injury with job assured. He had a nice stretch of games and flashed. Nothing more and we knew this when we drafted him.
Carol is no dummie and he knows the injury nature of the position. As long as CMike produces, Rawls will only be the complimentary piece and golden handcuff.
My team has the luxury of holding at this point but I can understand people's need to dump him.
That may be true. I just don't think it is. This is a coaching staff and FO that has gushed about Rawls, and thinks so highly of Michael that they released him mid-season last year.Michael has the job to lose. Rawls, if he comes back, is the handcuff clearly.
Basically what davearm said. Michael's proved to be a decent player and has exceeded expectations but I think Rawls is the better back - based on his performance last year and what the coaching staff has said. All I said was "don't be so sure". I could be wrong. I'm in 2 leagues and actually own 1 in each so I'd like to think I'm somewhat unbiased.Based on what?
The situation sucks in 2016 but any dynasty owner with Rawls and Michael can't be too upset. I think rawls is starter in 2017 and assuming health is there will be a top 10 back. And Michael will likely end up a RB2 type contributer in some places like Carolina.Tool said:Basically what davearm said. Michael's proved to be a decent player and has exceeded expectations but I think Rawls is the better back - based on his performance last year and what the coaching staff has said. All I said was "don't be so sure". I could be wrong. I'm in 2 leagues and actually own 1 in each so I'd like to think I'm somewhat unbiased.
Rawls might not come back this year or if he does it might be to late for him to carve out a role but next year it's his job again unless C-Mike gets better. C-Mike isn't necessarily playing bad but I just don't see a RB. I see a guy that just runs as fast as he can to the hole and hopes something good happens. Which he's such an amazing athlete it's actually working out ok right now but he's not special and probably never will be.The situation sucks in 2016 but any dynasty owner with Rawls and Michael can't be too upset. I think rawls is starter in 2017 and assuming health is there will be a top 10 back. And Michael will likely end up a RB2 type contributer in some places like Carolina.
Tell you what, in redraft if I was a little weak at rb2 but could afford to have rawls in bench for a 3-5 games, I'd be all over trading for him with the stretch in mind. I think from week 10 on he's one of those guys who carries you. Just hope my team is in contention by then.![]()
Careful ... Michael is a darling on these boards and a Bloom fav.I noticed something early on with Michael, you clearly notice his athleticism on the field but he doesn't seem to have any real talent as a runner. Often times he just puts his head down hoping to get into the second level without any real intention for getting more. He isn't particularly creative. Rawls showed much more last year IMO.
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Love his twirl/spin move but he does seem to lower his head prematurely & kinda dives to the ground. Good RB though.I noticed something early on with Michael, you clearly notice his athleticism on the field but he doesn't seem to have any real talent as a runner. Often times he just puts his head down hoping to get into the second level without any real intention for getting more. He isn't particularly creative. Rawls showed much more last year IMO.
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I noticed this too but Michael cooled down almost immediately and Carroll was grinning right after the exchange. I think Michael still has his head on straight but that's not my beef with him. I still think Rawls looked better last year than Michael has at any point this year. I think this bears out statistically as well since I seem to remember Rawls' PFF grades being off the charts.Michael looked like he pissed off Pete Carroll in the Cards game by not keeping his cool on what was a late hit near the end of the game. He got up and went after the Cardinal on the sideline and Carroll personally got in his face, restrained him, and sent Collins into the game. I think this type of stuff is exactly what landed Michael in the doghouse earlier in his career so it's probably worth mentioning and maybe monitoring...
Ha. So was Monte Ball. Mic Drop!Careful ... Michael is a darling on these boards and a Bloom fav.![]()
This is exactly my thought. If Rawls is as healthy as he was last year, the coaches have already said he would be the starter. Plus Michael is averaging less than 3.5 ypc the last 3 games. I think he'd be a better change-of-pace back personally.Cut a playoff-time RB1? Not bloody likely.
Not really worried about Michael. Just need Rawls to get healthy. I realize that's the minority opinion.
I had a CMike trade lined up that went through after this past week. I was high on him but there's something about the talk by Carroll that made me worry Rawls was going to regain the job if healthy. Rawls was surprisingly available on WW still. Barring any setbacks, and assuming Rawls can be 100%, I think he gets his job back.This is exactly my thought. If Rawls is as healthy as he was last year, the coaches have already said he would be the starter. Plus Michael is averaging less than 3.5 ypc the last 3 games. I think he'd be a better change-of-pace back personally.
Sigh...wtf
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/seahawks-safety-kam-chancellor-out-another-week-with-substantial-groin-pull-rb-thomas-rawls-still-a-couple-weeks-away/November is fine. Really want Michael for these 2 games. vs. the Saints, then home against the terrible Bill run D. After that the schedule gets dicier. I might try to unload him high to the Rawls owner if he comes up big this week and next.
Read the tea leaves. Rawls owners are going to cash in by week 10Good link to that latest story on Rawls. Here is an excerpt which lends insight in a couple of aspects of his return:
"Carroll said Rawls did run this week. But he also indicated that the earliest Rawls would return now is Nov. 13 against the Patriots.
“That did begin, yeah,” Carroll said of Rawls’ running on the side. “And he is going about it — talked to him this morning about it — very aggressively. He’s going to work his way back. He’s going to make sure that he’s in really good shape before we get him going. Just kind of pass the test along the way here. So we’re still a couple weeks away. We won’t know until he starts to do the workload and all of that. But now we’ve got to get him in shape, again, and get him right. And we’ll take our time doing that so that once he’s back he’ll hopefully be coming back for good.”
Rawls has not played since suffering a hairline fracture in his fibula on Sept. 18 against the Rams in Los Angeles.
Christine Michael has started the last four games in his absence and will continue to get the starts until Rawls returns, though running backs coach Sherman Smith said Thursday he’d like to see more physical running out of Michael."
This seems like really good infoMelvin Gordon's 10 touchdowns this year have all come in the red zone, and he has 36 red zone touches after having just 13 red zone touches in 2015
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/columnists/kevin-acee/sd-sp-acee-1028-story.html
Another bullet point for volume and potential for Farrow.
Darn it - was meant for the RB Lotto thread - user error - sorry about that.This seems like really good info
Just maybe not for the Thomas Rawls thread
By the time FF playoffs roll around, Seattle has 3 awful matchups. 4 if you count week 13.I've read that they hope to have him practice in week 10 and back for week 11. I think they ease him back in when he does finally get back. Hopefully full production by the time FF playoffs roll around.