Those of You Who Moved Out of State (1 Viewer)

[SIDA!]

This question goes out to anyone who has moved out of state, but more specifically directed at those who have done so with either a wife/significant other and/or children.

Assuming you weren't moving out of state and back to your home area/where you grew up, what sort of research and planning did you do? How did you form a list of potential places you wanted to move to and how did you narrow down you list and eventually select a town you would move to?

What factors influenced your decision?

Did you actually take a trip to any of the places on your list before you moved?

Just looking to get some general feedback from you that have walked this path. Thanks.

 

[sbonomo]

I recently moved from LA to the Bay area. i will be honest, a lot of folks on this board gave me a ton of ideas for areas to look at (https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/714244-moving-to-san-fran-advice-for-area-live-needed/#entry17231416). I know that the wife and I took several trips up to look at areas/housing etc. We don't have kids so commute and lifestyle were the two deciding factors for me. If your company is relocating you they may have assistance (mine was okay). Do you have any friends/family that live in the area? Have you ever been there? Also, I signed a short term lease (8 months) just in case i didn't like the area.

 

[General Malaise]

I moved from Texas to Oregon after a 4 year stint in Mississippi. Got a job offer that gave me a choice of Memphis or Portland. I was 23, dealing with a rocky relationship, didn't want to live in the south and despite not knowing a soul in Oregon, packed up my Acura Integra and drove to Portland in 4 days. I talked to my uncle in Boise who grew up in Oregon and knew Portland well. He gave me some good guidance. I didn't have access to the Internet, though I knew of its existence, so I did some research in something called an "Encyclopedia".

Planned on living out west for a few years and then moving back to Texas. Nearly 20 years later, I'm still here and my parents and sister followed me. One of the best decisions of my life, though again, I was absent kids and a spouse. My GF at the time wanted to move up after she graduated college, but I didn't think it was a good idea for her and we broke up. She married a good friend of mine and they live happily in Texas.

 

[simsarge]

Contemplating this in the coming year with a wife and kids. Looking at basically a total do-over. House, career etc.

 

[Road Warriors]

I moved from Massachusetts to Texas (Austin) 10 years ago for work, moving my 3 kids ( 2 school age ) and wife as well.

We had some help from a recommended realtor to identify neighborhoods that were near enough my office that fit our young family criteria. From there, we took a weekend trip to see homes and get a feel for the neighborhoods we were interested in. I also asked some co-workers from the Austin area about the better spots to move to.

We also spent a good amount of time on GreatSchools.org to get a sense of the schools associated with the various locations we were looking at. That actually eliminated a few spots. Pretty solid information there, from what I recall.

Eventually, I found the house we bought online, flew down to see it, and made an offer before getting on the plane home. I got off the plane in Boston to a voicemail they had accepted the offer.

Good luck.

 

[moleculo]

my wife and I were both just tired of dealing with Florida. We wanted to move someplace different, but still be close to FL to visit friends and family. We focused on the Carolinas, but were open to pretty much the whole southern east coast. We ended up in Charlotte because that's where I was able to land a job. We found the neighborhood we settled in by first researching the area on the internet, accounting for quality of schools, traffic patterns to work, tax costs, and looking at houses on line. We found our house by looking at lots of houses with an agent.

 

[The Z Machine]

Don't have much advice other than to say we rented for a few years before buying to get a feel for the neighborhoods here in Baltimore. I quit my job for a career opportunity for my wife, and we didn't have kids at the time. I posted on here about BMore because I didn't know jack about the area.

I'm pretty happy here now. I found a good job that furthers my career goals and my wife is still happy with her job. We have 2 kids now, and after almost 4 years now, it feels like home. I can't say I love it here, but it is home for the foreseeable future.

Best of luck!

 

[eoMMan]

Moved from NJ to FL due to SO's job offer. We've always loved FL and talked of moving here but we weren't dead set in a particular city or area.

We rented for the first 7 months which is something I think everyone should do when moving to a new area. Get use to everything before you commit to a house/condo/etc.

 

[Kal El]

Moved from Michigan to Florida while engaged, and she was still attending school in Virginia. I first accepted a job there, because we wanted to live in Florida, and when I was hired, I moved down and stayed with my great-aunt for two weeks until I finalized a lease on an apartment in town. Other than her, I knew nobody in the area, but moved down, worked for a while, and eventually my wife moved in after we got married. We've moved a few times since then, but aside from doing the apartment search on my own, it wasn't as hard as it would have been with children involved. If we were to move now, with 3 young kids, it might drive me insane.

 

[saintfool]

my ex was looking for grad schools. we were living in NYC and her only offer came from here in Chicago. we scouted a number of cities in creating the list of schools she applied to but Chicago was the only one that caem through. we flew out for a few days to check it out. she came back 2 months before school started to find an apartment. she used a local service to help her find the apartment and 'hoods. it worked out fine in that regard. we got a moving van and drove out a few weeks later.

that was 11 years ago.

 

[Mr. Ected]

We moved from DC to MA just before kids, so that we could be near family. We had a choice between Boston and Green Bay, winters made this an easy choice!! We were there for a couple years had a son, were working on the second, and my wife decided that she needed 500 miles between her and her mother in law. So we moved back to DC and have been happy ever since. We didn't do too much research, because, in the first case, we were moving to the area where I grew up, and the second we were moving back to an area where we had both lived before. Our children were still in the infant/toddler stages, so schools, etc. wasn't a big deal, yet.

 

[SIDA!]

Contemplating this in the coming year with a wife and kids. Looking at basically a total do-over. House, career etc.

This is kind of our situation. A fresh start reboot.

Places we are looking at on the first glance research list are:

Portland

Denver

Dallas

Austin

But that is by no means the locked in choices.

We wouldn't know a soul in any of them and would be moving out of Southern California.

The rub is having a kid in middle school. I don't really want to move to a new place, rent and then move again out of the area to another new school. But, I also don't want to buy and be locked in some place that I am going to regret.

 

[moleculo]

Contemplating this in the coming year with a wife and kids. Looking at basically a total do-over. House, career etc.

This is kind of our situation. A fresh start reboot.

Places we are looking at on the first glance research list are:

Portland

Denver

Dallas

Austin

But that is by no means the locked in choices.

We wouldn't know a soul in any of them and would be moving out of Southern California.

The rub is having a kid in middle school. I don't really want to move to a new place, rent and then move again out of the area to another new school. But, I also don't want to buy and be locked in some place that I am going to regret.

I wouldn't do that to a kid unless you really had to. middle school and/or HS are stressful enough, much less a completely new environment where you don't know anyone at all.

It's only a few years until the kid is out of HS, and then you can move where you like.

 

[the moops]

The new kids in my high school were always the cool ones

 

[General Malaise]

You'll get more house for the money in Austin/Dallas but you'll also have to deal with oppressive heat in the summer. And traffic. I grew up in Dallas and when I go back, I'm mesmerized by how spread out it is and how long it takes to get anywhere. An hour's drive in Dallas and you're still in Dallas. No state income taxes. Friendliest people on earth live in Austin and Dallas. I know the craft beers have come a long way, but I've never had anything there that I'd order a second time. Geographically, Austin is prettier than Dallas IMO. Some hills and water. You can stand on a beer can in Dallas and see Houston.

I'm biased on Portland, but it has its drawbacks too. Winters - while mild temp wise - can be tough for people who need sun in their diet. But on a day like today, I'm convinced we have the best weather in the country. High seventies, blue skies, slight breeze. No sales tax, but the state income tax sucks. I'd rather have no state income and a sales tax, but that's just me. Portland people can be a bit harder to crack, but once you overcome the Portland petulance and uniqueness, you'll be fine. If you're a beer guy, this is nirvana. Wine too if you like pinot noir and breathtaking beauty. Geographically, Oregon is impossible to beat. Coast, mountains, river gorges, hikes, forest, desert...everything within easy access. An hour's drive in Portland can get you on Mt. Hood and damn near the Pacific Ocean.

I know nothing about Dever other than people I know who live there love it.

 

[Hastur]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

 

[General Malaise]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

What city?

 

[sbonomo]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

Little Rock Arkansas #1 for me - The first city i would consider didn't show up until #11 Charlotte.

 

[Hawks64]

Things get much worse here in IL we are likely packing it up and moving to FL.

 

[Andrew74]

Looking to move now. Haven't moved in almost 15 years, so I have to do this with 3 kids now. Not nearly as easy. For me it's more of finding a job in my field. Right now the options are Indianapolis or Nashville.

 

[Hastur]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

What city?

Greenville, South Carolina

We moved from New Jersey, so moving to Iran would have felt like an improvement! It's been 7 years since we moved here now.

 

[ffweasel]

I pretty much follow my wife around.. We moved to Chicago from a small city in Michigan before we were married. She had a nice job offer when she graduated with a very nice hotel. We were only renting so the only real prep was driving and looking at apartments that we had found online. In order to advance in her company she gets promoted to a new property. A few years later, we settled on Huntington Beach, California. We chose that location over Baltimore, Cincinnati, and New Orleans properties that were available at the time. Our decision was mostly to do with the climate. As far as research, I once again looked at rentals (condos/townhomes) online. As I was still back in Illinois working, she visited the places I had found and gave me her impressions. It also helped that coworkers gave her some indication as to nicer neighborhoods etc.. The hotel reimburses for all moving costs, but they will only transport one vehicle. So I drove to California in 2 days with a vehicle full of misc boxes, plants, and a cat. Next stop, 4 years later, was San Diego. It was a much easier move since it wasn't so far away. I drove around and looked at places I had found online. I just happened to drive by a townhome rental community, after looking at a single family home, and it was perfect. Once again it was close to both of our jobs and in a nice area. 3 years later we are back in Chicago and I can't wait to go somewhere else! Seattle, Portland, possibly somewhere in Florida.. Larger cities are more expensive so you have to take that into consideration as well.

Most important factors to my wife and I are number of rooms and bathrooms, overall square footage, proximity to work, neighborhood (recommendation or online research). One of us, if not both, visited every place we have moved into.

 

[The Ref]

I have a "the ref moves to Florida" thread out there that chronicled our move from Boston to "south Florida". I'll see if I can dig it up.

I think the best things we did were....

1. Rent for 7 months to get a lay of the land. Schools for my then 3 year old were our top priority.

2. Because we rented it gave us time to buy a short sale property.

3. Use "Pods" for moving our stuff down.

To answer your question(s) we were familiar with the area and had family and opportunity here so the choice of location was easy for us.

 

[The Z Machine]

We used kids as well. Works great.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

Little Rock Arkansas #1 for me - The first city i would consider didn't show up until #11 Charlotte.

We love it here in Little Rock but no need for more people.

 

[nirad3]

We've made 2 state-to-state moves. First was from CA to TX without kids so it was a lot less complicated. The wife and I went out together a few months before the planned move date and found an apartment and rented it. No big whoop there. We knew we wanted to be in Austin proper and it was fairly easy as we were in our early-mid 30's without any restrictions for the most part. I was working from home and my wife was going to find a job when she got there. Limited research, really just did it on the fly but did poll some folks I knew in town.

Second move, from TX to MN, was more complicated. We had an 1.5 year old and one on the way, so we wanted to be somewhere safe, near parks, etc. I went up myself a few months before the planned move date to tour areas, look at places, etc. Did a fair bit of research online and of course asked people that we knew in the Twin Cities.

In general, I highly recommend you visit the place you're looking to move beforehand. If your significant other trusts you to do so, maybe you go up solo and take lots of pics. I took thorough notes as to the neighborhood vibe, etc. when I went up to the Twin Cities on my own.

As moving sucks, you probably won't want to plan on doing this... but when we moved to MN, we signed a 1-year lease and used that time to figure out where we really wanted to be. Having to move again after a year was a pain in the ### but it was for the best.

 

[sbonomo]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

Little Rock Arkansas #1 for me - The first city i would consider didn't show up until #11 Charlotte.

We love it here in Little Rock but no need for more people.

no disrespect meant....I have lived in phx, LA and Sf (all i kiked for various reasons) the last 20 years so I was very surprised at the response.

 

[SIDA!]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

Little Rock Arkansas #1 for me - The first city i would consider didn't show up until #11 Charlotte.

We love it here in Little Rock but no need for more people.

no disrespect meant....I have lived in phx, LA and Sf (all i kiked for various reasons) the last 20 years so I was very surprised at the response.

We've made 2 state-to-state moves. First was from CA to TX without kids so it was a lot less complicated. The wife and I went out together a few months before the planned move date and found an apartment and rented it. No big whoop there. We knew we wanted to be in Austin proper and it was fairly easy as we were in our early-mid 30's without any restrictions for the most part. I was working from home and my wife was going to find a job when she got there. Limited research, really just did it on the fly but did poll some folks I knew in town.

Second move, from TX to MN, was more complicated. We had an 1.5 year old and one on the way, so we wanted to be somewhere safe, near parks, etc. I went up myself a few months before the planned move date to tour areas, look at places, etc. Did a fair bit of research online and of course asked people that we knew in the Twin Cities.

In general, I highly recommend you visit the place you're looking to move beforehand. If your significant other trusts you to do so, maybe you go up solo and take lots of pics. I took thorough notes as to the neighborhood vibe, etc. when I went up to the Twin Cities on my own.

As moving sucks, you probably won't want to plan on doing this... but when we moved to MN, we signed a 1-year lease and used that time to figure out where we really wanted to be. Having to move again after a year was a pain in the ### but it was for the best.

And now you are back in the OC?

May I ask why you returned to SoCal?

Can you give expand a little bit more about adjustments/differences you had to encounter/overcome when you moved out of Cali?

I am not a foodie, but I know I am going to miss the fact that we basically have any type of food we want year round. Minor detail. But elaboration on lifestyle changes and adjustments very much appreciated.

 

[FUBAR]

This question goes out to anyone who has moved out of state, but more specifically directed at those who have done so with either a wife/significant other and/or children.

Assuming you weren't moving out of state and back to your home area/where you grew up, what sort of research and planning did you do? How did you form a list of potential places you wanted to move to and how did you narrow down you list and eventually select a town you would move to?

What factors influenced your decision?

Did you actually take a trip to any of the places on your list before you moved?

Just looking to get some general feedback from you that have walked this path. Thanks.

General area was easy - the job brought me there. But after knowing the general area we looked at schools, talked to people in the area we knew through others, went to various Facebook groups in the area, and know what type of neighborhood we want to live in.ETA: we've moved 7 times in the past 16 years with the 8th at the end of the month.

 

[Wingnut]

Moved from MI to FL when I was 24. A buddy and his GF who moved down here a year prior let me stay with them til I got a place. Packed up all my belongings that would fit in my car and hit the road. I had $800 to my name. Got a job right away, and a place a few months after that. 21 years later, Im still here. The end.

 

[FUBAR]

http://www.findyourspot.com/

My wife, two children(3 and 1 at the time), and I moved several states away on the sole recommendation of that site. Take the free quiz, and it will give you a list of 20 cities in America it thinks you will be happy in. My wife took the quiz, as did I. We picked the 'highest common denominator' city(#1 on her list and #3 on mine).

We moved with no jobs lined up, no family in the area. With a lot of hard work, some lucky breaks, and kept our heads about us.

We couldn't be happier!

Tuscaloosa, AL

we're moving to huntsville in 2 weeks, seems similar. Not sure why huntsville isn't included on the site.

 

[Apple Jack]

moved from md to durango, co out of high school for five years. loved it. durango to san francisco/marin for five years. loved it. san francisco to nyc for four years. loved it though could have done without 9/11. nyc to st augustine, fl for eight years. loved it until i couldn't go anywhere without seeing people i know. sa to arlington va. love it. i cant imagine a life without bouncing around a bit. i like the disorientation of a new place before all it's viaducts and pathways burn into your psyche and a frame of reference is set. trying new restaurants. discovering cool things you didn't expect to find. love that i can still get on my bike without getting on a road and ride to a place ive never been that is steeped in history with cool old structures and inevitably a place to stop and drink good beer. waking up to find you are the eyes of the world and stuff. that should never stop. especially if you dont have kids. move. and if you have the ability when your young, move often.

 

[Tick]

moved from md to durango, co out of high school for five years. loved it. durango to san francisco/marin for five years. loved it. san francisco to nyc for four years. loved it though could have done without 9/11. nyc to st augustine, fl for eight years. loved it until i couldn't go anywhere without seeing people i know. sa to arlington va. love it. i cant imagine a life without bouncing around a bit. i like the disorientation of a new place before all it's viaducts and pathways burn into your psyche and a frame of reference is set. trying new restaurants. discovering cool things you didn't expect to find. love that i can still get on my bike without getting on a road and ride to a place ive never been that is steeped in history with cool old structures and inevitably a place to stop and drink good beer. waking up to find you are the eyes of the world and stuff. that should never stop. especially if you dont have kids. move. and if you have the ability when your young, move often.

Jeez, write like an adult.

We've done it a couple of times. My wife is a stay-home mom, so we found the right job for me, then moved to where the job was and sorted the rest out. Happiness is portable - if you're happy where you are, chances are you'll be happy wherever you end up.

 

[xulf]

Moved from NJ to FL due to SO's job offer. We've always loved FL and talked of moving here but we weren't dead set in a particular city or area.

We rented for the first 7 months which is something I think everyone should do when moving to a new area. Get use to everything before you commit to a house/condo/etc.

 

[RC94]

I moved to Boston from NYC for a couple of years for grad school. My basic criteria was that I wanted to live in a big city, but also wanted to leave NYC for a little while. I had been to Boston as few times and liked it and they have good schools, especially for grad school. My time there proved to me that NYC is where I belong.

 

[Apple Jack]

Jeez, write like an adult.

Wasn't aware we're being graded here on the magic football message board.

 

[FUBAR]

Moved from NJ to FL due to SO's job offer. We've always loved FL and talked of moving here but we weren't dead set in a particular city or area.

We rented for the first 7 months which is something I think everyone should do when moving to a new area. Get use to everything before you commit to a house/condo/etc.

I very much agree with the rent before buying advice. Sucks to move twice but if you know you're not staying in the house you won't completely unpack to repack.

 

[Apple Jack]

Definitely rent first. All the most valuable insights into where/why are going to be learned after you get there.

 

[Chadstroma]

I moved back in 2003 from the L.A. area to the Chicago area. No spouse or kids and obviously things (resources) have changed since then.

I decided on where to live mainly from two sources at the time- 1) It was with work and the locations had not been selected yet. But from past similar experiences they tried to match the people with location as much as possible, so my first criteria was finding an area that I thought was good for work (sales type of position). 2) I reached out to someone I knew in the area and asked a slew of questions.

Now, there are so many resources online that you can crunch data on pretty much anything. Just moving within the greater Chicagoland area I did that when we were looking in areas that we were not as familar with.

If I were to move to an area I was not familar with today, I would either talk to people that I knew that were (reach out to Facebook for a larger sample size than the normal people I see on daily basis), then in discussion boards like this one for feedback (or find an appropriate geographical discussion board) and then use that to target a few areas that I would crunch the data on. Then go visit those areas in person and then most likely rent unless I was getting a relocation package that helped significantly with purchase. If not, then I would look for a short lease to rent from (9-12 months) so I could get a more personal feel and take my time in looking for a home to purchase.

 

[Zow]

Holy ####. I got the actual city I live in: Lake Havasu City. I thought I'd get something like Austin or San Diego.

Remainder in top 5:

Phoenix

Tucson

Scottsdale

Gainsville

 

[Hastur]

Holy ####. I got the actual city I live in: Lake Havasu City. I thought I'd get something like Austin or San Diego.

Remainder in top 5:

Phoenix

Tucson

Scottsdale

Gainsville

You were destined to live in Arizona.

 

[FUBAR]

Holy ####. I got the actual city I live in: Lake Havasu City. I thought I'd get something like Austin or San Diego.

Remainder in top 5:

Phoenix

Tucson

Scottsdale

Gainsville

Just curious because that's one region I've never lived in. why?

 

[Gator Shawn]

Definitely rent first. All the most valuable insights into where/why are going to be learned after you get there.

Agree 100%. We rented for 3 years before we bought here in Orlando. Got a good chance to know all the areas and where we did and did not want to be.

 

[The Z Machine]

Oh by the way, I want to add that moving to another continent is WAAAAY harder than moving to another country.

 

[xulf]

My #1 from the location link was Clearwater and St. Pete's was top 5. I've wanted to move down there for about a year but I have two kids (3 and 1). My parents live a mile away, in laws are 1.5 hrs away, and my brother is 20 mins away with my niece. I'm basically stuck unless #### blows up at my work.

 

[cstu]

Oh by the way, I want to add that moving to another continent is WAAAAY harder than moving to another country.

Did you know Spanish before you moved there?

 

[cstu]

Holy ####. I got the actual city I live in: Lake Havasu City. I thought I'd get something like Austin or San Diego.

Remainder in top 5:

Phoenix

Tucson

Scottsdale

Gainsville

No idea what you like about LHC.

 

[Johnny Rock]

Orlando. Got a good chance to know all the areas and where we did and did not want to be.

I'd appreciate it if you would expand on this regarding what you learned. Thanks.

 

[chauncey]

moved from md to durango, co out of high school for five years. loved it. durango to san francisco/marin for five years. loved it. san francisco to nyc for four years. loved it though could have done without 9/11. nyc to st augustine, fl for eight years. loved it until i couldn't go anywhere without seeing people i know. sa to arlington va. love it. i cant imagine a life without bouncing around a bit. i like the disorientation of a new place before all it's viaducts and pathways burn into your psyche and a frame of reference is set. trying new restaurants. discovering cool things you didn't expect to find. love that i can still get on my bike without getting on a road and ride to a place ive never been that is steeped in history with cool old structures and inevitably a place to stop and drink good beer. waking up to find you are the eyes of the world and stuff. that should never stop. especially if you dont have kids. move. and if you have the ability when your young, move often.

what kind of work do you do that allows you to start over every 5 years somewhere new? sales, IT, contractor, waiter/bartender, internet biz?

 

[chauncey]

Holy ####. I got the actual city I live in: Lake Havasu City. I thought I'd get something like Austin or San Diego.

Remainder in top 5:

Phoenix

Tucson

Scottsdale

Gainsville

No idea what you like about LHC.

tittays for a month every spring and memorial day weekend. one of the most under rated spring break/skank destinations in N.A.