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Thoughts on Limas Sweed for next year? (1 Viewer)

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A couple of thoughts on Sweed...

The most obvious was the blown long catch for a TD (was he looking for the safety to come across and clean his clock)?

He seems very fast for a big guy (6' 4", 220?), getting alot of separation.

I am not sure about his hands, in general.

And here at the top of Peter King's article they show him standing over Ivy after pulling a Ward-like block on him and knocking him out cold. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ...1/19/superbowl/

I also noticed some decent catches later in the game. What are you thoughts on him in PIT moving forward? Any UT homers chime in on his play at UT?

Sweed block on Ivy :clap: http://www.truveo.com/AFC-Champ-Cant-Miss-...ck/id/759617433

 
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Have not watched all the Steelers games this year but quite a few. That is not his first easy drop of the year. He seems to have hands of stone in the end.

Even his one catch he made over the middle, it looked to me he struggled to make catch. It was not a pure catch.

I still think he is a work in progress. Maybe he can one day take over for Hines but I don't think it is next year.

 
He is definitely a work in progress. The good news is that lately he has been getting open.

The bad news is the guy is really having problems catching the ball, even when wide open. I don't know if he has vision problems, he is pressing too much or just has horrible hands. Time will tell...

 
Still too early to tell, but I'm not encouraged. He just looks like he has terrible hands. You can coach blocking. You can coach route running. You can't coach hands.

 
Godsbrother said:
He is definitely a work in progress. The good news is that lately he has been getting open.

The bad news is the guy is really having problems catching the ball, even when wide open. I don't know if he has vision problems, he is pressing too much or just has horrible hands. Time will tell...
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Exactly. I remember Troy P's rookie year. He played like a bum and many were calling him a bust. Now.....not so much.I'll give Limas a couple more years.

 
My problem with Sweed is that he really hasn't show flashes that he could be better. He had a big block last game, but other than that, pretty much all negatives and question marks.

But it is still very early on him.

 
Black Box said:
My problem with Sweed is that he really hasn't show flashes that he could be better. He had a big block last game, but other than that, pretty much all negatives and question marks.But it is still very early on him.
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I dunno. Early this season and the preseason it seemed like he was having problems running routes and getting open. He is getting open now and seemingly in the right lace so maybe he has made some progress (or maybe it is just wishful thinking).
 
UT Alum here.

My buddies and I had a running joke we would make whenever Limas inevitably dropped a pass. "That one was just too easy for him." He would drop routinely easy passes, ones where he was standing still and the ball hit him in the hands, or he was running free on a deep route and just muffed the ball. Then later in the same game he would turn around and make incredibly tough catches look easy. The winning touchdown against Ohio St in 2005 where he is falling backwards into the end zone being an example of the latter.

I always thought at the time, and still do, that he has questionable (and/or lapses in) concentration. A frustrating player to watch as a fan, to be sure.

 
ForbiddenDoughnut said:
UT Alum here. My buddies and I had a running joke we would make whenever Limas inevitably dropped a pass. "That one was just too easy for him." He would drop routinely easy passes, ones where he was standing still and the ball hit him in the hands, or he was running free on a deep route and just muffed the ball. Then later in the same game he would turn around and make incredibly tough catches look easy. The winning touchdown against Ohio St in 2005 where he is falling backwards into the end zone being an example of the latter. I always thought at the time, and still do, that he has questionable (and/or lapses in) concentration. A frustrating player to watch as a fan, to be sure.
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Man that's what I thought. I thought I remember some great catches of his but he is definitely frustrating thus far
 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
dude probably need lasik or something.

buy in dynasty.
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They already corrected his vision in camp. Maybe it didn't take.Link

Steelers' Sweed fitted with contact lenses

By Scott Brown, TRIBUNE-REVIEW

Friday, August 1, 2008

Football has become much clearer for Limas Sweed.

Literally.

Sweed started wearing contact lenses Thursday to compensate for a slight case of astigmatism, and his improved vision should only help the second-round draft pick as he pushes for a spot in the Steelers' wide receiver rotation.

After attending an appointment at the UPMC Eye Center in Pittsburgh yesterday morning, Sweed returned to St. Vincent with contact lenses and a prescription for glasses. He has an optical condition that is associated with blurred vision, and it is something Sweed didn't know he had until May.

Sweed wore his new contact lenses during the Steelers' Thursday afternoon practice.

"I'm shocked, I really am," he said of how improved his vision is. "If I can see better, I know I can catch better."

Steelers wide receiver coach Randy Fichtner made a good catch of his own regarding Sweed's vision.

At a wide receivers meeting during OTAs in May, Fichtner noticed Sweed squinting from his seat in the back of the room. Sweed chalked it up to fatigue, but Tomlin had him get his eyes checked.

When the Steelers still weren't satisfied with how Sweed was picking up the ball during practice, they sent him for another eye exam.

Sweed said the eye doctor had him look through a number of different lenses before finding the right prescription for what he has.

"The last thing he clicked, I could see perfect, clear," Sweed said. "No squinting, nothing."

"Hopefully, it's a winning edge for him," Tomlin said. "He's got to go out and catch footballs."

The 6-foot-4, 219-pounder did just that yesterday, and he practiced a day after getting carted off the field with cramps.

The cramps he experienced late during the Steelers' Wednesday afternoon practice were so intense that Sweed had to be carried into the locker room.

Skipping the only practice the Steelers had yesterday wasn't a consideration, Sweed said, since he can't "afford to miss any days."

Sweed is battling Nate Washington for the No. 3 wide receiver spot, and he is expected to give the Steelers' passing game a dimension it has lacked since Plaxico Burress left after the 2004 season.

Sweed showed earlier this week the value of having a tall wide receiver. Sweed caught a touchdown pass in the corner of the end zone after running a fade route, drawing a rousing cheer from spectators.

However, he has dropped some passes during practice.

He apparently flubbed enough for the Steelers coaches to conclude that, as Tomlin put it, he was having trouble picking up the "blur of the ball."

"I wish we would have found out earlier because we need to get those drops down," veteran wide receiver Hines Ward said with smile. "He had two (Wednesday)."

The wide receivers have a contest to see who drops the most passes during training camp. Sweed made a modest guarantee after visiting the UPMC Eye Center.

"I won't be the guy with the most (drops)," he said, "I'll tell you that."
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Fixing your eyesight doesn't mean #### if you aren't focused enough to look for the ball in the first place.

 
MAC_32 said:
Fixing your eyesight doesn't mean #### if you aren't focused enough to look for the ball in the first place.
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I think Troy Williamson had lenses put in. Then, laser surgery.I think they finally removed his eyes, and told him to use The Force.
 
Why do people say you can't teach hands? I mean there are drills, techniques, mentalities... where to look and all that stuff. Just because some people are naturally better doesn't mean it can't be taught. Just like anything practice makes perfect.

 
While I think it is too early to judge Sweed I am upset they have decided it's a good idea to test him out in the post season. If he is going to make these errors I would rather have his growing cramps happen in the season. That dropped TD pass could have been crucial.

 
Bojang0301 said:
While I think it is too early to judge Sweed I am upset they have decided it's a good idea to test him out in the post season. If he is going to make these errors I would rather have his growing cramps happen in the season. That dropped TD pass could have been crucial.
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Pretty sure if ward was healthy he wouldnt be on the field
 
Plenty of question marks, but I feel confident he will become at least as good as Nate Washington in the next few years. That means he will get an opportunity to play a significant role in the offense and is worth watching and rostering. Watching him, I get the feeling he's one of the receivers who probably never pans out, but might become a star. It's important not to write off those types of players too quickly.

I'm interested to hear what people have to say about whether hands can be coached. It seems like these problems persist in some players even when they have a good work ethic (e.g. Terrell Owens), while others improve over time (e.g. Vincent Jackson). Then there's Braylon Edwards, who defies explanation. My rule of thumb has been that I don't get too concerned until the hands problems have persisted after the pro game should have slowed down for them, around their third season, but that's little more than a guess.

 
It wasn't Sweed's hands that caused the drop. ESPN showed a closeup and Sweed's eyes were not looking at the ball or anywhere close to the ball. His eyes were looking straight ahead. It's no wonder he butchered that play.

 
Eminence said:
Why do people say you can't teach hands? I mean there are drills, techniques, mentalities... where to look and all that stuff. Just because some people are naturally better doesn't mean it can't be taught. Just like anything practice makes perfect.
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If you can catch a wrench, you can catch a ball!
 
He was over-rated in college and i highly doubt he has a successful NFL career. He makes some circus catches but he can't catch routine passes.

Brandon Lloyd syndrome.

 
ForbiddenDoughnut said:
UT Alum here. My buddies and I had a running joke we would make whenever Limas inevitably dropped a pass. "That one was just too easy for him." He would drop routinely easy passes, ones where he was standing still and the ball hit him in the hands, or he was running free on a deep route and just muffed the ball. Then later in the same game he would turn around and make incredibly tough catches look easy. The winning touchdown against Ohio St in 2005 where he is falling backwards into the end zone being an example of the latter. I always thought at the time, and still do, that he has questionable (and/or lapses in) concentration. A frustrating player to watch as a fan, to be sure.
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:thumbup: This is exactly how it was for Limas at UT.
 
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