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Thursday Night Exploit/Avoid (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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Hello everyone. I have been bailing on the Thursday Night games due to time restraints but I researched this game for a while last night and thought I would fire up a thread and see what you all think about the Thursday night game. They happen so fast and you barely have time to sift thru the IR, see who is actually playing but I have some interesting numbers to share.

Arizona at St Louis(+1.5)

The Cardinals are 4-0 and only about a point favorite coming into St Louis. With a perfect record you might expect the line to be steeper but perhaps Vegas and others can see a little bit further than just Arizona's record. Let's start with Arizona and work our way over to St Louis.

Snap counts last week...Ryan Williams 33...William Powell 36. Now don't read too much into this as I figure Miami was shutting down the run rather easily due in part to a very inept OL where the RT-Bobbie Massie surrendered 5 sacks mostly to Cameron Wake who had not recorded a sack prior to that game. The run blocking was even worse and a lot of their guys get pushed into the backfield throughout the game or at least did this past weekend. How on Earth is Arizona winning all these football games? At WR, Michael Floyd is starting to come on and his snap count is rising even though Andre Roberts is more than filling up the WR2 role at the moment. Floyd has had 36 and 32 snaps the last 2 weeks, that is good news for dynasty owners and the Cards are bringing him along slowly.

Cards have rushing totals of 43, 102, 99, and then a low mark of 28 yards last weekend. The Rams have been doing very well in pass coverage which we will get to but I want to spotlight their run defense which gets a lot of bad press. Teams are not enjoying success with Finnegan taking away half the field so it would be logical that teams try and run the ball a lot since it seems the better of the two options. The DB5 Fletcher is also playing at a high level and is on the field a lot. He is allowing a 25 QbR and Finnegan only 36.7 with a couple interceptions already. You see 2 games where the Rams allowed 150-175 yards on the ground but the real damage was done by Marshawn Lynch last week and if you read my threads you know I feel he is a top 5 back when the OL is factored in, so I don't think the Rams are terrible in rush defense. In fact the MLB-Laurinaitis had been doing very well in run support until he had 3 missed tackles(MT) last week but again I put that on Lynch and his ability to break tackles and make folks miss. Laurinaitis had zero stops last week against Seattle but 5 the previous week in Chicago.

Seattle fans won't want to hear this but St Louis had 14 MT last week which is about double the normal output by them, the Seahawks should have beaten St Louis. The Rams have 8 defensive turnovers so far and a lot of that is due to Finnegan and Fisher who is coaching this team up on defense. On offense the Rams are not doing well. They only have totals of 250, 160, and 286 in 3 of their 4 games. Under 300 yds consistently is a recipe for disaster. I think I would sit Steven Jackson and that groin this week. Did you know the Arizona Cardinals have 10 turnovers on defense this year? The Cards are getting some solid play from guys you won't hear about much so I thought I would mention their OLBs O'Brien Schofield and Sam Acho, both are doing very well in this 3-4 set they play which a lot of times is a 2-4-5 and the Cards will take the NT Dan Williams out of these sets. Schofield has 6 stops the last 2 weeks, 2 sacks, 2 more QBhits, and 3 Qbhurries, and Acho is a guy they like to blitz, 304 sans for this guy and zero MT on the season. ILB-Daryl Washington has 4 sacks on the season and 17 stops, guy is getting it done inside. The Cards get a lot of press for Peterson and Campbell but their are other pieces here that deserve some hype. They got torched last week especially William Gay but can Bradford exploit them again on Thursday Night?

The key match ups are going to be Larry Fitzgerald vs Courtland Finnegan and I think Fitz will have a slow night occasionally reeling in a couple passes but I would not expect big numbers form him. It would take balls to sit him but don't be surprised if Roberts or Floyd end up with slightly better numbers due to the match up. The Safeties for the Rams are not that good and can be burnt on the long ball if Kolb has some time in the pocket. Chris Long and Robert Quinn are starting to become a nice force on the DE spots for the Rams who had something like 18 QbHur last week against Seattle. The Cards are going to have their hands full trying to pass protect. I see them going after the Rams on the ground so I like Ryan Williams this week despite a slow performance against the Miami Dolphins last Sunday.

RB

Exploit-Ryan Williams...Powell had more snaps but he was not given any carries, look for Williams to take control this week.

Avoid-Steven Jackson...if Daryl Richardson were to start, I would be interested.

WR

Avoid-Rams WRs despite what Hartline and Bess did last week, would not bank on the Rams on doing the same. Amendola if you must but again I would think not much more than a 5/50 type performance if that's enough for you. I expect a defensive struggle or at least a low point total for the Rams.

Exploit-There really isn't a true exploit here. Hard to tell folks that Roberts might be the better play. Fitz hopefully can get double digits in PPR leagues, maybe he can rip one off and get some YAC on a couple throws. Janoris Jenkins is the other DB I failed to mention for the Rams, he is playing well the last 2 weeks.

Kevin Kolb has had decent performances the last couple of weeks but I anticipate a quiet night at least until the Cards can get some type of ground game going and force the Rams to play up in the box more. Sam Bradford perhaps in 2 QB leagues but otherwise I would think no this week. Don't chase what Tannehill did.

Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point.

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Let's hear from the locals and anyone with an interest in this football game.

 
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This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.

I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be.

Prediction:

St. Louis - 38

Arizona - 35

 
you would take ryan williams over sjax this week?
That's why they pay me the big bucks :lol:The numbers and the match ups would lead me to believe that the Cards will try and run the football. They should have lost last week had Miami not turned it over midfield with under 3 minutes remaining up 21-14. They gotta know if they can't run it is going to be lights out Thursday Night. I also like Williams to snare a few screen passes as they can run Fitz and Roberts deep some and take Finnegan with them, opens up the flats, should be space for Williams to operate if they can get him the ball. I like Williams but if folks have better options or other options please feel free to post them up. I might not get to all of them until later tonight but I wanted to get some conversation going on the game tomorrow night.
 
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This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
Outstanding. Flush out all reason and logic, at least 50% of the time this works 100% of the time.
 
Just want to add the St Louis kicker is going to be money at home in the dome with a skittish QB and a bend but don't break defense in AZ. 4 or 5 mid and long range FG's are there to be had. YWIA

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
Outstanding. Flush out all reason and logic, at least 50% of the time this works 100% of the time.
Who needs logic and reason when you have a random gut feeling? :)In all seriousness, I wouldn't feel comfortable starting anyone in this game other than the defenses and Zurlein (I would start Fitzgerald, but I wouldn't be comfortable about it).
 
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kolb is on a mission to prove his worth, esp. with skelton on the mend.

st. louis d, although improved, isn't one to be feared fantasy-wise.

fitz explodes, kolb approaches another 300 and 3, and we may even see a michael floyd td. williams maybe 80 and a td.

zona rolls.

 
The Rams have 2 must starters, PK Zeurlein and Amendola in a PPR. Also, their D is really improved. They have have the best CB's in the NFL (Finnegan, rookie Jenoris Jenkins, Fletcher and rookie Jermaine Johnson) If their safeties were better, they would easily have a top 10 D. Look for DE's Long and Quinn to get lots of pressure.

 
The Rams have 2 must starters, PK Zeurlein and Amendola in a PPR. Also, their D is really improved. They have have the best CB's in the NFL (Finnegan, rookie Jenoris Jenkins, Fletcher and rookie Jermaine Johnson) If their safeties were better, they would easily have a top 10 D. Look for DE's Long and Quinn to get lots of pressure.
Nice post
 
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Road teams on short weeks usually struggle, don't like Arizona this week. I think Ryan Williams is a decent low end #2/flex play, but the Rams pass defense is legit. Obviously if you own Fitz you're starting him, but I wouldn't want to start anyone else on that offense. I'm worried about the defense too. Tough benching them given what they've done and what they're capable of, but...road game, short week.

I'm not considering anybody in the Rams running game either, but after last week there is something here in the passing game. Peterson is turning into an elite corner, but it is absolute garbage across from him, which is what led to Bess and Hartline's breakout. Not following the Rams much, is there some predictability in how they line up at WR? especially on obvious passing downs? If there is whoever is usually not on Peterson's side of the field is in for a big day. Toler and Gay are just plain awful. If I had bye week issues and had to rely on Bradford, despite no offensive TD's in 2 (or is it 3?) games, I think he has a good game Thursday picking on that obvious weakness.

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
RB

Exploit-Ryan Williams...Powell had more snaps but he was not given any carries, look for Williams to take control this week.

Avoid-Steven Jackson...if Daryl Richardson were to start, I would be interested.

WR

Avoid-Rams WRs despite what Hartline and Bess did last week, would not bank on the Rams on doing the same. Amendola if you must but again I would think not much more than a 5/50 type performance if that's enough for you. I expect a defensive struggle or at least a low point total for the Rams.

Exploit-There really isn't a true exploit here. Hard to tell folks that Roberts might be the better play. Fitz hopefully can get double digits in PPR leagues, maybe he can rip one off and get some YAC on a couple throws. Janoris Jenkins is the other DB I failed to mention for the Rams, he is playing well the last 2 weeks.

Kevin Kolb has had decent performances the last couple of weeks but I anticipate a quiet night at least until the Cards can get some type of ground game going and force the Rams to play up in the box more. Sam Bradford perhaps in 2 QB leagues but otherwise I would think no this week. Don't chase what Tannehill did.

Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point.
Ryan stinks. Young RB and in time with his potential...OK, but he's got like 150 in 3 games. Powell is part of the Cards no huddle offense and Williams isn't. The Cards moved the ball well and "have to" use the no-huddle O some more and this doesn't bode well for Williams. Wasn't Powell the preseason darling that's starting to get lil bit more playing time each week?I'd like to hear more of why you like Williams and dislike Jax. Here's a nice article by Kent Somers http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/2012/10/02/20121002arizona-cardinals-running-game-struggling-gain-solid-footing.html

It seemed like you went out on a limb and didn't explain, this was what I meant previously. This was the fun part.

Roberts, to me, is so unimpressive. I'd swear I read a quote where when he was a rook, Fitz said he wouldn't be in the league in a couple years and trying to help prepare him for that. God Bless him though he is getting it done. Ya can't knock his production increasing. It's probably a phrase we'd have said (if it wasn't Boldin for much of his career) that anyone could do well with Fitz attracting all the attention, but...his 6 for 110 is pretty sweet last week. Roberts might be a real sweet WW pickup.

 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
what the heck happened with the AZ D vs. the Dolphins, at home no less?
 
kolb is on a mission
Sound reasoning
oh, thanks man.i mean, it's nothing like this tidbit of wisdom: "Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point. "

lol. let me re-write mine to match your in depth expertise:

Final Score: Arizona 30....St Louis 23. OFFENSIVE score either way could be the turning point...but also, it might not be the turning point.

Get over yourself. Your posts are fun to read, but make no mistake about it...they are by and large worthless, or, worth no more than any other poster's fantasy statistic predictions on this board.

 
kolb is on a mission
Sound reasoning
oh, thanks man.i mean, it's nothing like this tidbit of wisdom: "Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point. "

lol. let me re-write mine to match your in depth expertise:

Final Score: Arizona 30....St Louis 23. OFFENSIVE score either way could be the turning point...but also, it might not be the turning point.

Get over yourself. Your posts are fun to read, but make no mistake about it...they are by and large worthless, or, worth no more than any other poster's fantasy statistic predictions on this board.
Woah, think you stopped having fun, no reason to start attacking. How come Solar and I can banter back and forth and have a good laugh poking at each other? Good Luck this weekend.

 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
what the heck happened with the AZ D vs. the Dolphins, at home no less?
I honestly think it was a case of the Cardinals forcing the Dolphins to try to beat them through the air...and they were much better than the Cards accounted for. With that said, they still won the game and held them to just 20 points. Bend but don't break, I suppose.
 
The Rams have 2 must starters, PK Zeurlein and Amendola in a PPR. Also, their D is really improved. They have have the best CB's in the NFL (Finnegan, rookie Jenoris Jenkins, Fletcher and rookie Jermaine Johnson) If their safeties were better, they would easily have a top 10 D. Look for DE's Long and Quinn to get lots of pressure.
The rooks are gonna get burned and eat some crow, it just happens. I don't know that they're the best, but I love that you said that. It's nice to see Rams fans get excited and they are impressive.Someone, can't find it, expects a quiet night from Fitz. I don't. His numbers might be like 3 for 48, but I bet the announcers constantly talk about his matchup and it's anything but quiet. Finnegan has a mouth and goads every WR. It's all fun N games til he goes up against an elite talent. He oWned Andre Johnson some weeks, but I'll tell ya I was screaming at the TV for him to shut up when Andre had a zillion catches and a zillion yards the other times. Finnegan is so tough to predict against elite WRs. Hoping you're not hollering at the TV tomorrow night b2h
 
kolb is on a mission
Sound reasoning
oh, thanks man.i mean, it's nothing like this tidbit of wisdom: "Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point. "

lol. let me re-write mine to match your in depth expertise:

Final Score: Arizona 30....St Louis 23. OFFENSIVE score either way could be the turning point...but also, it might not be the turning point.

Get over yourself. Your posts are fun to read, but make no mistake about it...they are by and large worthless, or, worth no more than any other poster's fantasy statistic predictions on this board.
Woah, think you stopped having fun, no reason to start attacking. How come Solar and I can banter back and forth and have a good laugh poking at each other? Good Luck this weekend.
yeah, your intent was really to banter back and forth and have fun rather than make a smartass remark because i made a comment that insults all the in-depth analysis that you stand for (in your mind).

it's no big deal, you aren't the first guy to get a swollen head from positive feedback from posts you make on an internet message board, and you won't be the last.

can't wait for your sunday column!!

 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
I have the same gut feeling as you do. I think St. Louis' D could lose control on this one, and Kolb has been playing much better than advertised. So I could see Bradford throwing a lot of passes to keep up, and it doesn't take much to see him connecting deep a few times. 38-35 may be a bit much, but if the O/U was 50, I'd take the over.
 
The Rams have 2 must starters, PK Zeurlein and Amendola in a PPR. Also, their D is really improved. They have have the best CB's in the NFL (Finnegan, rookie Jenoris Jenkins, Fletcher and rookie Jermaine Johnson) If their safeties were better, they would easily have a top 10 D. Look for DE's Long and Quinn to get lots of pressure.
The rooks are gonna get burned and eat some crow, it just happens. I don't know that they're the best, but I love that you said that. It's nice to see Rams fans get excited and they are impressive.Someone, can't find it, expects a quiet night from Fitz. I don't. His numbers might be like 3 for 48, but I bet the announcers constantly talk about his matchup and it's anything but quiet. Finnegan has a mouth and goads every WR. It's all fun N games til he goes up against an elite talent. He oWned Andre Johnson some weeks, but I'll tell ya I was screaming at the TV for him to shut up when Andre had a zillion catches and a zillion yards the other times. Finnegan is so tough to predict against elite WRs. Hoping you're not hollering at the TV tomorrow night b2h
Really looking forward to it. BTW, I grew up a Cardinal fan here in St.Louis. Was heart broken when they left. The NFC West is turning into a dominant division. It going to be fun for many years to come. The Rams have two #1 picks these next 2 years and tons of cap space. I can see them challenging for the division title very soon. This past draft plus the addition of Fisher was a game changer for them. g/l to you guys. I am really impressed with the Cards and their D.
 
This game is going to be all about the pass. Neither team can run the ball well and both teams can stop the run.

Bradford does not have any real weapons at WR. AZ definitely does Both QBs will have lots of attempts and completions. Kolb ends up with more yards and TDs.

SJackson will not find the end zone again.

AZ wins 27 - 16

 
kolb is on a mission
Sound reasoning
I think this is interesting, he has kind of flopped there with "only" the best WR to throw to. Granted now Fitz is older, but Kolb...I'd like to hear if more fans think he's on a mission. He about needs to be.
Yes, he is. He quietly sat back and watch the Skelton experiment and even tried to help him grasp the concept of the Cards O. He will never bash his Oline because he privately says that they play with heart. He tells them that if they get beat physically that's he is there for them, but don't ever get beat heartlessly. Lyle, Aron, and Daryle are his best friends on the team, and he still supports those guys-even when he gets sacked 8 times like last week. Those guys may not be the best protection skill wise, but they will kick your butt for him any day.Yeah, Kevin's on a mission alright. Not to justify himself- he's not that selfish. But to justify his team. It's funny listening to people who have no clue bash a guy who is 4-0 over teams he should be 0-4 to; and still get ZERO credit.

He's not the best QB in the league by no means- but he's not the scared, bust that he's made out to be either.

 
This game is going to be all about the pass. Neither team can run the ball well and both teams can stop the run. Bradford does not have any real weapons at WR. AZ definitely does Both QBs will have lots of attempts and completions. Kolb ends up with more yards and TDs. SJackson will not find the end zone again. AZ wins 27 - 16
Just the opposite for the Rams. They have been great against the pass and bad against the run. Having DT Brockers back should help though.
 
kolb is on a mission
Sound reasoning
oh, thanks man.i mean, it's nothing like this tidbit of wisdom: "Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point. "

lol. let me re-write mine to match your in depth expertise:

Final Score: Arizona 30....St Louis 23. OFFENSIVE score either way could be the turning point...but also, it might not be the turning point.

Get over yourself. Your posts are fun to read, but make no mistake about it...they are by and large worthless, or, worth no more than any other poster's fantasy statistic predictions on this board.
Woah, think you stopped having fun, no reason to start attacking. How come Solar and I can banter back and forth and have a good laugh poking at each other? Good Luck this weekend.
yeah, your intent was really to banter back and forth and have fun rather than make a smartass remark because i made a comment that insults all the in-depth analysis that you stand for (in your mind).

it's no big deal, you aren't the first guy to get a swollen head from positive feedback from posts you make on an internet message board, and you won't be the last.

can't wait for your sunday column!!
I enjoy MoP's Exploit/Avoid threads. I'm still searching for your fantasy advice thread kd1. As soon as I find it, I'll weigh in and let you know whose material helps me manage my own teams the most. Is MoP perfect? No, and he'll be the first one to tell you that. It's simply an opinion, and everyone has one. His threads are a good read, but like any information, you have to take some of it, and leave some of it. Nobody has a crystal ball for everything fantasy. For the record, I have never gotten the swollen ego vibe from reading MoP's posts.

 
so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.

FYI

yes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:

 
so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.FYIyes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:
a LB and Dockett are a GTD. That'll help for sure.These teams are familiar and I expect some scoring and good game for FF.
 
so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.FYIyes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:
I saw QUESTIONABLE-Groin...do we have an update? Short week, maybe they rest him or limit his touches.
 
so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.FYIyes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:
You know I do haha.I'll just repeat what I've said somewhere else..Lynch and Ridley essentially totaled 100 yards vs. ARI.McCoy averaged 5.38 YPC against them.A less than 100% R.Bush ran for 70 on the ground against them.Although SJax is far from a premiere play this week, 100 total yards is far from out of the realm of possibility. On paper, Williams clearly has the better match-up, but after Wisenhunt came out saying Williams is unfamiliar with the no huddle, you have to wonder how much they'd lean on him if the game was on the line or if they were to be playing catch-up. Williams IMO is the risk/reward play where SJax is the low upside/floor play this week. 20/60-80/0 and 3-4 receptions for 10-20 was my prediction yet I think it may be a little modest.Again, nice write up MOP. :thumbup:
 
I enjoy MoP's Exploit/Avoid threads. I'm still searching for your fantasy advice thread kd1. As soon as I find it, I'll weigh in and let you know whose material helps me manage my own teams the most. Is MoP perfect? No, and he'll be the first one to tell you that. It's simply an opinion, and everyone has one. His threads are a good read, but like any information, you have to take some of it, and leave some of it. Nobody has a crystal ball for everything fantasy. For the record, I have never gotten the swollen ego vibe from reading MoP's posts.
I sent him a PM, hopefully that smooths it out. I can understand why some folks get rubbed the wrong way, no biggie. Appreciate the kind words.
 
so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.FYIyes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:
I saw QUESTIONABLE-Groin...do we have an update? Short week, maybe they rest him or limit his touches.
He practiced for the first time (on a limited basis) in two weeks yesterday. He's moving past the groin injury. They're going to feed him for as long as it's close tomorrow night.
 
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so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.FYIyes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:
I saw QUESTIONABLE-Groin...do we have an update? Short week, maybe they rest him or limit his touches.
He practiced for the first time (on a limited basis) in two weeks yesterday. He's moving past the groin injury. They're going to feed him for as long as it's close tomorrow night.
Outstanding, thanks
 
so no one in here thinks SJAX has a good day? looking at the stats so far shows ARZ gives up lots of yards, but not many points. On a short week, on the road, I will go the other way and say sjax has a good game. 100 total yards and a score. STL wins rather easily cause they can also play some def in stl.... 27-13. also these thurs games usually stink and are blowouts.FYIyes I own sjax and need him to have a decent game for the first time this season.... :bag:
You know I do haha.I'll just repeat what I've said somewhere else..Lynch and Ridley essentially totaled 100 yards vs. ARI.McCoy averaged 5.38 YPC against them.A less than 100% R.Bush ran for 70 on the ground against them.Although SJax is far from a premiere play this week, 100 total yards is far from out of the realm of possibility. On paper, Williams clearly has the better match-up, but after Wisenhunt came out saying Williams is unfamiliar with the no huddle, you have to wonder how much they'd lean on him if the game was on the line or if they were to be playing catch-up. Williams IMO is the risk/reward play where SJax is the low upside/floor play this week. 20/60-80/0 and 3-4 receptions for 10-20 was my prediction yet I think it may be a little modest.Again, nice write up MOP. :thumbup:
I know you like some sjax. One of the few that do. most are writing the guy off...its still early but I am holding out some hope. mostly cause I have no choice :banned:
 
kolb is on a mission
Sound reasoning
oh, thanks man.i mean, it's nothing like this tidbit of wisdom: "Final Score: Arizona 17...St Louis 16, defensive score either way could be the turning point. "

lol. let me re-write mine to match your in depth expertise:

Final Score: Arizona 30....St Louis 23. OFFENSIVE score either way could be the turning point...but also, it might not be the turning point.

Get over yourself. Your posts are fun to read, but make no mistake about it...they are by and large worthless, or, worth no more than any other poster's fantasy statistic predictions on this board.
Woah, think you stopped having fun, no reason to start attacking. How come Solar and I can banter back and forth and have a good laugh poking at each other? Good Luck this weekend.
yeah, your intent was really to banter back and forth and have fun rather than make a smartass remark because i made a comment that insults all the in-depth analysis that you stand for (in your mind).

it's no big deal, you aren't the first guy to get a swollen head from positive feedback from posts you make on an internet message board, and you won't be the last.

can't wait for your sunday column!!
His entire write up is a rebuttal to your post, what else do you want him to reply? Good post? Or repeat eveything he just said?
 
SJax is going to be questionable and miss practices every week, based on how he ran against Seattle he will fine in games. Richardson is out of the equation in this one.

 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
what the heck happened with the AZ D vs. the Dolphins, at home no less?
My guess? The return of regular officials. Alot of teams have been getting by on crazy press coverage by in large molesting receivers during the reign of the replacement refs. I'm interested to see if this cards D is as dominant as advertised because I think they can be exposed on the backend.
 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
what the heck happened with the AZ D vs. the Dolphins, at home no less?
My guess? The return of regular officials. Alot of teams have been getting by on crazy press coverage by in large molesting receivers during the reign of the replacement refs. I'm interested to see if this cards D is as dominant as advertised because I think they can be exposed on the backend.
Nothing to do with refs. The dolphins oline held up against blitzes which gave the qb plenty of time to throw. Cards also had a big focus on the run and dared Tannehill to beat them in the air, and he did.
 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
what the heck happened with the AZ D vs. the Dolphins, at home no less?
My guess? The return of regular officials. Alot of teams have been getting by on crazy press coverage by in large molesting receivers during the reign of the replacement refs. I'm interested to see if this cards D is as dominant as advertised because I think they can be exposed on the backend.
Nothing to do with refs. The dolphins oline held up against blitzes which gave the qb plenty of time to throw. Cards also had a big focus on the run and dared Tannehill to beat them in the air, and he did.
Fair enough, but my overall point was that the cards DBs are not as good as their front 7 and can be exposed. They're physical, but with all the smallish quick receivers the Rams have, I think they match up well. Plus I think the cards are going to rethink their bend but don't break strategy when they realize that crossing the 50 yd line basically puts the Rams into scoring territory.
 
'solorca said:
This smells like another nice day for the Arizona D/ST...but I have a feeling about this game. Thursday games have been pretty bad for the most part, and most of the games haven't went according to what we've believed.I think this one is a shootout, because it's the exact opposite of what it SHOULD be. Prediction:St. Louis - 38Arizona - 35
what the heck happened with the AZ D vs. the Dolphins, at home no less?
My guess? The return of regular officials. Alot of teams have been getting by on crazy press coverage by in large molesting receivers during the reign of the replacement refs. I'm interested to see if this cards D is as dominant as advertised because I think they can be exposed on the backend.
Nothing to do with refs. The dolphins oline held up against blitzes which gave the qb plenty of time to throw. Cards also had a big focus on the run and dared Tannehill to beat them in the air, and he did.
Fair enough, but my overall point was that the cards DBs are not as good as their front 7 and can be exposed. They're physical, but with all the smallish quick receivers the Rams have, I think they match up well. Plus I think the cards are going to rethink their bend but don't break strategy when they realize that crossing the 50 yd line basically puts the Rams into scoring territory.
Darnell Dockett was out last week. He might be back this week. The D is entirely different without him rushing the passer.
 

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