comfortably numb
Footballguy
Thats like giving your kid a commodore 64 in 1992 when all the kids in the hood have Nintendo.
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
I usually text them to ask if they saw the TikTok I posted and why they haven’t liked it yet. It’s not like it’s something completely unimportant.
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Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
If this happens I’ll never hear the end of it from my 2 daughters and 5 nieces. Might as well ban porn next and have both genders hate him.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I’m not sure under what authority he would have to do so. I could see banning it for any federal employees due to the security risk, but I don’t even know how banning it entirely in the US would be technologically feasible other than I guess forcing Apple and Google to delist it from their app stores.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Even if its the right thing to do (I dont believe for a second that any Chinese firm would stand up to the government and deny them data access. No doubt in my mind they're sharing with them) anything like this coming from Trump just seems like some silly vendetta at this point.
The fact that its got a silly name like TikTok and that he announced it with the helicopter noise blaring in the background doesn't help matters. It just makes him sound like a buffoon.
The fact that its got a silly name like TikTok and that he announced it with the helicopter noise blaring in the background doesn't help matters. It just makes him sound like a buffoon.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
That's my guess. Apple owns one of their major competitors, so they probably are loving this move.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Ban snapchat next and you have my vote
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
I was wondering that also. I assume they can probably dig up some past legislation that gives the president authority under a "national security" umbrella. I have mixed feelings about this - I definitely think TikTok is a net negative for society and will not be sorry if it disappears, but that's different than saying it should be banned. Ideally, instead of banning a specific app through EO, Congress should pass a law specifying data collection/privacy standards that apps need to meet. That way you're addressing the root concern and if TokTik, TikiTocky, etc. get released to get around the ban, you're still covered.
McBokonon
Footballguy
National Security last I heard. Assuming they didn't change the reason 5 times since then.
The Commish
Footballguy
uuuummmmm. what's that now?
Of course, knowing this admin and their inability to focus on detail, the app will be back here, legally, with a simple name change
NutterButter
Footballguy
Trump is about to lose the vote of my 13 year old
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I didn't want to start a new thread, but I am curious how much people actually use TikTok and at what point does that usage become a problem.
Case in point. I consider my wife addicted to it. Yesterday was EXHIBIT A. She woke up at 9 AM, basically started in on watching videos once she woke up, never left the house, and didn't stop until after 2 AM. Didn't even put her phone down during meals.
To say it is annoying is an understatement. She texts me TikTok videos that she thinks are funny, poignant, political, hit close to home, or whatever multiple times a day. I rarely think they are humorous or informative and to me are mostly just a waste of time.
She asked me to come watch TV with her . . . and she kept watching videos that were so loud I could barely hear the TV. About 11:00 PM I said I was going to sleep, shut off the TV, and rolled over to try to fall asleep. That didn't stop her. She kept right on viewing more and more videos, the sound blaring right next to my head. I couldn't take it anymore and gave up and went to sleep on the couch.
Whenever I mention that maybe she should give it a break, she only gets peeved and watches more. I am at a loss on how to curb her TikTok habit.
Case in point. I consider my wife addicted to it. Yesterday was EXHIBIT A. She woke up at 9 AM, basically started in on watching videos once she woke up, never left the house, and didn't stop until after 2 AM. Didn't even put her phone down during meals.
To say it is annoying is an understatement. She texts me TikTok videos that she thinks are funny, poignant, political, hit close to home, or whatever multiple times a day. I rarely think they are humorous or informative and to me are mostly just a waste of time.
She asked me to come watch TV with her . . . and she kept watching videos that were so loud I could barely hear the TV. About 11:00 PM I said I was going to sleep, shut off the TV, and rolled over to try to fall asleep. That didn't stop her. She kept right on viewing more and more videos, the sound blaring right next to my head. I couldn't take it anymore and gave up and went to sleep on the couch.
Whenever I mention that maybe she should give it a break, she only gets peeved and watches more. I am at a loss on how to curb her TikTok habit.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah that all sounds like a problem, worse than even just watching TV all day because at least while watching TV you can do other things like clean, cook, fold laundry, etc. Even video games might be better, there’s at least accomplishments, hand eye coordination, problem solving, perseverance skills practiced there.
glvsav37
Footballguy
yea that seems like a problem. I'll admit I've gotten lost in a few TT rabbit holes, but thats a full day+ of use. I couldnt imagine binging that much.
is she only watching or is she creating too? I find it so crazy how much time some people put into their posts.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
99.9% of the time just viewing. I think she posted a few times when our pets or kids did something silly.
I kinda get that yesterday was a relaxation day. We just got back from vacation, there was a time difference coming home, she was tired and wasn't feeling well, and she was dreading having to go back to work.
We squabbled a couple of times about the TT thing, and I said I really didn't get wanting to watch so many videos in general. She took umbrage when I sad I wasn't into all the videos she sent me and I didn't find them all that funny or entertaining. She said all her friends and family are into them and if I better related and understood her then I would realize how they are just like she is.
I said I wasn't into the whole online TT, FB, IG thing and if they made her laugh and not me, so be it. I have seen some of the vids out kids put together and some of them were pretty funny . . . not because they were funny, but the ones when they tried to do something funny and went horribly wrong. For example, one time one of them tried to do something and got clocked in the head by a ceiling fan. Or trying to do something on a skateboard and wiping out. So the act of them trying to do something stupid and then messing it up was funny (no injuries involved).
Anyway, yesterday was a heavy usage day for her and she normally doesn't come anywhere near staying on TT for that long, but it does concern me that she zoned out for that extended stretch. That left me to do yard work, house work, food shopping, and cooking to fill up my day.
Ive grown accustomed to smoking some weed at night and scrolling through tiktok for around 1/2 hour. Theres a lot of "suggestive" videos and dances of women on my FYP lol
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
So it's basically Ridiculousness on your phone 24/7, but without Channel West Coast.
offdee
Footballguy
One of the biggest red flags you posted earlier was about her total disregard for you in this situation....while you're trying to sleep?!? Get some bluetooth headphones for her at least.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
She’s toned it done all these months later. Still has her moments watching at bad times, but nowhere near the peak she was at back then. Mostly spurts of 30 minutes once a day, sometimes at bedtime.
massraider
Footballguy
I'm pretty unthrilled with the other ones, I don't think adding a bunch of content from more people I don't know is the cure.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I totally get the disdain for it but it’s great for watching videos on hobbies and topics you are interested in.
waiver wire
Footballguy
yeah i have got sucked into it as well.
used to be a couple of minutes before i go to bed now 30-60 minutes
fatness
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
Keerock
Footballguy
I doubt TikTok is gathering any information that dozens if not hundreds of other apps already gather. Now what they do with that data may be shady, but I don' trust the DOJ, the US Attorney or any other government agency any more than I do TikTok.And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
GL with that.
massraider
Footballguy
Downloading probable Chinese spyware to watch teen girls dance sounded a lot to me like sending my DNA out in the mail.
Something I would rather just sit out.
Something I would rather just sit out.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I don’t trust them either, but the issue isn’t trusting TikTok, it’s trusting the Chinese government since they almost certainly have access to all of that data. I definitely trust the Chinese government less than just about anyone else. Not just on a personal level, but all the info they can glean about our utilities, infrastructure, etc seems not good.I doubt TikTok is gathering any information that dozens if not hundreds of other apps already gather. Now what they do with that data may be shady, but I don' trust the DOJ, the US Attorney or any other government agency any more than I do TikTok.And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
"I don't trust anybody in the DOJ, and I'm going to aggressively ignore that the UK and Australians are doing this too. I mean, when has China ever done anything shady?"
The Commish
Footballguy
To be clear, I am "meh" as to what they are "doing" with the data because just like you say, our info is out there already. This isn't a point of concern to me in my daily life. It's exactly a warning that maybe people should think about what they are putting on their phones. Most are completely mindless in this regard. I'll never have an app like this on my phone ever. Of course, I have probably 30 apps total on my phone (that I installed), so I'm not your average user. I use, almost exclusively, mobile browsers IF I do anything important on my phone, which I also try to avoid.I doubt TikTok is gathering any information that dozens if not hundreds of other apps already gather. Now what they do with that data may be shady, but I don' trust the DOJ, the US Attorney or any other government agency any more than I do TikTok.And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
fatness
Footballguy
Time passed and we know more now.And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Speak for yourself. Many of us were a few years ahead of you for a reason.Time passed and we know more now.And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
glvsav37
Footballguy
and its working
The Commish
Footballguy
What's known now isnt all that different now than it was when the app came out. We're just transitioning to there being tangible evidence.Time passed and we know more now.And yet people in this thread seemed to think this issue was overblown as recently as 2020. I wonder what changed.If anyone is shocked by this, they aren't paying attention
Might as well continue with the obvious and remind everyone Huawei is suspect as **** too. Deserves no place on or infrastructure anywhere. True since the 2010s if not before.
The Commish
Footballguy
There's a reason China severely restricts children in the country from consuming the platform.
