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I watched pretty much every snap that Hightower had with AZ. I'm just not buying that he is going to blow up this year. He just isn't that great of a running back, and he has trouble making people miss.
Isnt the zone blocking system one cut and go? The making people miss thing really doesn't sound needed here.
 
I watched pretty much every snap that Hightower had with AZ. I'm just not buying that he is going to blow up this year. He just isn't that great of a running back, and he has trouble making people miss.
Isnt the zone blocking system one cut and go? The making people miss thing really doesn't sound needed here.
You still want to make people miss at the second level. One cut and go pertains to the line of scrimmage.
 
I watched pretty much every snap that Hightower had with AZ. I'm just not buying that he is going to blow up this year. He just isn't that great of a running back, and he has trouble making people miss. In preseason where teams are basically going at half speed, there are holes there for him and he is running through them. I would not expect that when the real season starts.He will have a couple nice games, and he will be a decent flex play at times in PPR, but to expect 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round performance out of him is a bit much.
Did he just have huge holes to run thru? He did avergae 4.9 ypc last season.
 
I watched pretty much every snap that Hightower had with AZ. I'm just not buying that he is going to blow up this year. He just isn't that great of a running back, and he has trouble making people miss. In preseason where teams are basically going at half speed, there are holes there for him and he is running through them. I would not expect that when the real season starts.He will have a couple nice games, and he will be a decent flex play at times in PPR, but to expect 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round performance out of him is a bit much.
Did he just have huge holes to run thru? He did avergae 4.9 ypc last season.
Tim Hightower doesn't need holes, holes need him. I'll be honest, I don't know what that means.
 
I watched pretty much every snap that Hightower had with AZ. I'm just not buying that he is going to blow up this year. He just isn't that great of a running back, and he has trouble making people miss. In preseason where teams are basically going at half speed, there are holes there for him and he is running through them. I would not expect that when the real season starts.He will have a couple nice games, and he will be a decent flex play at times in PPR, but to expect 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round performance out of him is a bit much.
Did he just have huge holes to run thru? He did avergae 4.9 ypc last season.
Tim Hightower doesn't need holes, holes need him. I'll be honest, I don't know what that means.
very rare that i LOL @ fbg thread posts but jesus christ thats good. :lmao: :lmao:
 
I watched pretty much every snap that Hightower had with AZ. I'm just not buying that he is going to blow up this year. He just isn't that great of a running back, and he has trouble making people miss.
Isnt the zone blocking system one cut and go? The making people miss thing really doesn't sound needed here.
You still want to make people miss at the second level. One cut and go pertains to the line of scrimmage.
So he could still do this and average 5 yards a carry, no?
 
Observation deck: Redskins-Buccaneers

Sep 1 11:01PM ET

By Dan Graziano

Some other observations from the Redskins' final preseason game:

Ryan Torain is a good running back. Hightower is sure to open the season as the Redskins' starting running back. But Torain, who missed the bulk of this preseason with a broken hand, will remain a threat to steal carries and maybe the job itself. Torain entered the game late in the first half after Royster started the game, and he ran with obvious power. Torain's issues have been health-related, and if he stays healthy and continues to show something in limited action, don't be surprised to see him get a turn as the starter at some point this season.
I dont buy it. Hightower is probably in 1 of the best situations in the NFL. He's got a great line, there isnt a better RB for zone blocking, and Shanahan will never pull him if he struggles or starts to fumble.
Your sarcasm needs some work, it's not nearly as thick and drippy as you might think.
 
Observation deck: Redskins-Buccaneers

Sep 1 11:01PM ET

By Dan Graziano

Some other observations from the Redskins' final preseason game:

Ryan Torain is a good running back. Hightower is sure to open the season as the Redskins' starting running back. But Torain, who missed the bulk of this preseason with a broken hand, will remain a threat to steal carries and maybe the job itself. Torain entered the game late in the first half after Royster started the game, and he ran with obvious power. Torain's issues have been health-related, and if he stays healthy and continues to show something in limited action, don't be surprised to see him get a turn as the starter at some point this season.
I dont buy it. Hightower is probably in 1 of the best situations in the NFL. He's got a great line, there isnt a better RB for zone blocking, and Shanahan will never pull him if he struggles or starts to fumble.
Sorry KP, but that's a fairly absurd statement.
 
The truth of the matter is the YPC rarely lies. Hightower had a very good one with a suspect AZ offense and line. He was more effective than the highly touted Beanie Wells, and was better at the goal line and catching passes. He also had arguable one of the best preseason's of anyone in the NFL.

Washington RB's have been effective lately, as has any RB in Shanahan's system. Hightower is in a great position to put up very, very good #'s. It's all about holding on to the football. Shanahan will run with a horse. If Hightower comes out of the blocks fast and doesn't fumble he could have a very good run. For how long we don't know, as Shanahan can be very fickle as we all know. Also doesn't help to see Torain come back strong. So the opportunity is great but the leash is short. He could go 4-8 weeks with 70-100 yards rushing and some TD's thrown in and be a solid performer in your lineup to riding the pine for 2 months. So you better have depth behind him if he's your RB2.

 
The truth of the matter is the YPC rarely lies. Hightower had a very good one with a suspect AZ offense and line. He was more effective than the highly touted Beanie Wells, and was better at the goal line and catching passes. He also had arguable one of the best preseason's of anyone in the NFL.

Washington RB's have been effective lately, as has any RB in Shanahan's system. Hightower is in a great position to put up very, very good #'s. It's all about holding on to the football. Shanahan will run with a horse. If Hightower comes out of the blocks fast and doesn't fumble he could have a very good run. For how long we don't know, as Shanahan can be very fickle as we all know. Also doesn't help to see Torain come back strong. So the opportunity is great but the leash is short. He could go 4-8 weeks with 70-100 yards rushing and some TD's thrown in and be a solid performer in your lineup to riding the pine for 2 months. So you better have depth behind him if he's your RB2.
Is he really though? I've been trying to think back and it seems like most of the time Shanahan's hand was forced by injury when throwing a new RB back there. The one time I can recall him being weird about it was his whole T. Bell motivational ploys. Other than that it seems like he's just found a horse and run them into the ground and then brought in a new one to do the same thing.

But the way he's handled his QB this preseason is kind of familiar.

 
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Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.

So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1.

I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.

 
Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
Hightower was going to be in my lineup anyway, but this is why I come here. Thanks.
 
Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
 
Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
yeah I think I'm sitting him after that prediction. :mellow:
 
Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
Posts like this one is why I sometimes don't come here. :rolleyes:
 
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Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
Posts like this one is why I sometimes don't come here. :rolleyes:
I almost agree with him. That Giants D-Line with the emerging Pierre-Paul in place of Osi is just as scary as it has always been. Strong D-lines are the foundation of good rushing defenses. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit all feature powerful D-lineman that are hard to move. The Giants lineman aren't quite as massive as Baltimore's and Pittsburgh's, but they have an extra man on the line and their line is still quite large and heavy across the board (6'5" 270, 6'4 325, 6'7" 320, 6'5" 280). With those bodies clogging the line, I wouldn't be shocked to see Hightower struggle until he finds a crease.
 
Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.
The Giants have been playing good against the run all preseason too. No runs longer than 20.
 
Jonathan Goff done for year, Giants start Greg Jones a 3rd stringer or Kawika Mitchell signed off the street. Starting strong side OLB Clint Sintim done for the year. Terrell Thomas their best tackling corner gone for the year. Umeniyora out this game. Throw in Marvin Austin at DT out for year.So 2/3 of their starters at LB, their best tackling CB, and a stud DE are all out. The backups will have limited time for backups to get accustumed to starters snaps, I think Hightower is going to simply go off in week 1. I can easily see over 100 yards, and him breaking off a long one or two. Don't be shocked to see 150 yards plus and 2 scores for Hightower this week. I think the Redskins will run at will versus New York this week. I think he is a sneaky play for top RB this week.
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
Posts like this one is why I sometimes don't come here. :rolleyes:
The golden girls reference was :moneybag: , also Fatness knows skins football.
 
The thing I think people are missing is when playing a zone blocking running scheme the most key player is the MLB. If the MLB over pursues the stetch play the cutback lane is there for the running back. If the MLB does not get to edge fast enough the running back can turn the corner. So with Goff out and a rookie looking to Prove himself I expect Jones to over pursue and if we saw anything from Hightower from the pre season is that he makes defences pay when the over pursue as all his long runs were taking the cut back lane. Jones over enthusiam to prove himself will haunt him on Sunday.

 
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
Posts like this one is why I sometimes don't come here. :rolleyes:
I almost agree with him. That Giants D-Line with the emerging Pierre-Paul in place of Osi is just as scary as it has always been. Strong D-lines are the foundation of good rushing defenses. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit all feature powerful D-lineman that are hard to move. The Giants lineman aren't quite as massive as Baltimore's and Pittsburgh's, but they have an extra man on the line and their line is still quite large and heavy across the board (6'5" 270, 6'4 325, 6'7" 320, 6'5" 280). With those bodies clogging the line, I wouldn't be shocked to see Hightower struggle until he finds a crease.
As a Skins homer, and a Hightower owner, I DO agree with him. The Giants, more consistently so than any other team I can think of, have pushed the Skins line around. I'm not convinced that the Giants, even with their injuries, won't do the same this game. Hightower will be on my bench. I'm not hurting at RB, starting McCoy and Best, so there are people who will start him, but I don't think the "potential upside" outweighs the "average result" enough to justify the start.
 
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
Posts like this one is why I sometimes don't come here. :rolleyes:
I almost agree with him. That Giants D-Line with the emerging Pierre-Paul in place of Osi is just as scary as it has always been. Strong D-lines are the foundation of good rushing defenses. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit all feature powerful D-lineman that are hard to move. The Giants lineman aren't quite as massive as Baltimore's and Pittsburgh's, but they have an extra man on the line and their line is still quite large and heavy across the board (6'5" 270, 6'4 325, 6'7" 320, 6'5" 280). With those bodies clogging the line, I wouldn't be shocked to see Hightower struggle until he finds a crease.
As a Skins homer, and a Hightower owner, I DO agree with him. The Giants, more consistently so than any other team I can think of, have pushed the Skins line around. I'm not convinced that the Giants, even with their injuries, won't do the same this game. Hightower will be on my bench. I'm not hurting at RB, starting McCoy and Best, so there are people who will start him, but I don't think the "potential upside" outweighs the "average result" enough to justify the start.
Interesting...I'm likely sitting Best for Hightower in a TD heavy league. I think THT gets one or two in this week.
 
The thing I think people are missing is when playing a zone blocking running scheme the most key player is the MLB. If the MLB over pursues the stetch play the cutback lane is there for the running back. If the MLB does not get to edge fast enough the running back can turn the corner. So with Goff out and a rookie looking to Prove himself I expect Jones to over pursue and if we saw anything from Hightower from the pre season is that he makes defences pay when the over pursue as all his long runs were taking the cut back lane. Jones over enthusiam to prove himself will haunt him on Sunday.
Granted he is a rookie, but Greg Jones was a 3 time All Big Ten LB, IIRC. I was surprised how low he got drafted. He's a good player.That said, Im starting THT with confidence this week. I trust Bloom's projections a lot more than Dodds, and he has THT ranked 11th :thumbup:
 
The Giants' defensive line has a history of manhandling the Redskins' offensive line. If that happens again I don't think it matters much if the Golden Girls are playing LB, CB, and S for the Giants.I'd be quite (happily) surprised if Hightower puts up those kind of numbers against the Giants.
Posts like this one is why I sometimes don't come here. :rolleyes:
I almost agree with him. That Giants D-Line with the emerging Pierre-Paul in place of Osi is just as scary as it has always been. Strong D-lines are the foundation of good rushing defenses. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Detroit all feature powerful D-lineman that are hard to move. The Giants lineman aren't quite as massive as Baltimore's and Pittsburgh's, but they have an extra man on the line and their line is still quite large and heavy across the board (6'5" 270, 6'4 325, 6'7" 320, 6'5" 280). With those bodies clogging the line, I wouldn't be shocked to see Hightower struggle until he finds a crease.
As a Skins homer, and a Hightower owner, I DO agree with him. The Giants, more consistently so than any other team I can think of, have pushed the Skins line around. I'm not convinced that the Giants, even with their injuries, won't do the same this game. Hightower will be on my bench. I'm not hurting at RB, starting McCoy and Best, so there are people who will start him, but I don't think the "potential upside" outweighs the "average result" enough to justify the start.
Interesting...I'm likely sitting Best for Hightower in a TD heavy league. I think THT gets one or two in this week.
Im starting THT over Ingram and Mathews. He's a dedicated back that's looked great all preseason. I'm riding him until he lets me down or one of my other guys proves himself.
 
John Keim, one of the 2 best Redskin beat writers (the other is Rich Campbell).

You may have heard: The Giants have won nine of the past 10 meetings vs. Washington. You may also be tired of that as well.

“They dominated us over the years,” Shanahan said.

“They’ve run the ball on us,” Doughty said. “We haven’t run the ball on them. It’s pretty simple. They’ve had our number; there’s no other way to look at it. Hopefully we can change that.”
 
Surprise surprise.

Congrats to those of you who picked up the ultra-rare "workhorse" RB. You likely got him in round 4 or much later (I got him in round 8).

He could be the SOD legitimately.

 
Hightower did nothing wrong. Helu looked good and Shanahan went with him. Hightower got a few carries and blocked a few times in passing plays. No fumbles, no missed blocks - Shanahan just went with the rookie. Sucked - we get bonuses for over 100 yards and he had 85 at halftime and was sitting on 96 yards forever. Don't know what to make of it unless Hightower got nicked. If not, full blown committee - not what I was hoping for.

 
Hightower did nothing wrong. Helu looked good and Shanahan went with him. Hightower got a few carries and blocked a few times in passing plays. No fumbles, no missed blocks - Shanahan just went with the rookie. Sucked - we get bonuses for over 100 yards and he had 85 at halftime and was sitting on 96 yards forever. Don't know what to make of it unless Hightower got nicked. If not, full blown committee - not what I was hoping for.
We'll see. TOP was insanely lopsided for a while, giving the Redskins a ton of plays. Hightower still doubled Helu's number of carries and still had 21 touches. In games where there aren't 30 carries to split, Helu may not get as many touches. Or he might.
 
Was it me or did Helu seem to have all kinds of room to run?

Regardless, Helu's the better open field runner.

 
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Hightower did nothing wrong. Helu looked good and Shanahan went with him. Hightower got a few carries and blocked a few times in passing plays. No fumbles, no missed blocks - Shanahan just went with the rookie. Sucked - we get bonuses for over 100 yards and he had 85 at halftime and was sitting on 96 yards forever. Don't know what to make of it unless Hightower got nicked. If not, full blown committee - not what I was hoping for.
We'll see. TOP was insanely lopsided for a while, giving the Redskins a ton of plays. Hightower still doubled Helu's number of carries and still had 21 touches. In games where there aren't 30 carries to split, Helu may not get as many touches. Or he might.
I don't think Hightower owners can expect him to get all of Washington's RB touches. I'd be happy with 20-25 every week.
 
Hightower did nothing wrong. Helu looked good and Shanahan went with him. Hightower got a few carries and blocked a few times in passing plays. No fumbles, no missed blocks - Shanahan just went with the rookie. Sucked - we get bonuses for over 100 yards and he had 85 at halftime and was sitting on 96 yards forever. Don't know what to make of it unless Hightower got nicked. If not, full blown committee - not what I was hoping for.
We'll see. TOP was insanely lopsided for a while, giving the Redskins a ton of plays. Hightower still doubled Helu's number of carries and still had 21 touches. In games where there aren't 30 carries to split, Helu may not get as many touches. Or he might.
I don't think Hightower owners can expect him to get all of Washington's RB touches.
Last week, he played all but two snaps. You're right, that's unrealistic to expect that every week. But, I think it led people to not expect what happened today either. Helu played large chunks and he played in very important situations.
I'd be happy with 20-25 every week.
Yeah, that's about as good as anyone can hope for just about any player. There's no reason to expect more touches from Hightower.
 
This is Mike Anderson / Tatum Bell part 2.

I expect Hightower to keep this job all year and post solid RB2 #'s. Helu's going to be hit/miss. Both looked solid today, but Hightower is your play if healthy.

 
Now what?

I added Torain and get a headache every week, is my guess.

Any local news / practice notes? Any indicators of which RB will carry the load coming off the bye week?

 
Now what? I added Torain and get a headache every week, is my guess.Any local news / practice notes? Any indicators of which RB will carry the load coming off the bye week?
Go back and watch highlights of week 4 Torain. He looks much stronger and with the same or better burst than the other two RBs. Shanny is a hot hand rider typically. I think you have to roll with Torain based on that unless you hear something contrary from the man himself or at least a credible insider.When Torain has been healthy, he's been very productive under Shanny.
 

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