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[Casting Couch]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denver-broncos-expected-to-trade-tim-tebow-to-new-york-jets-or-jacksonville-jaguars-032012

Updated Mar 21, 2012 12:27 AM ET : FOX Sports

The Denver Broncos are expected to trade quarterback Tim Tebow to either the New York Jets or Jacksonville Jaguars by midday Wednesday, Orlando's WKMG-TV reported, citing a source close to the NFL star.

The Denver Broncos reportedly are looking to part ways with the unconventional quarterback, having signed four-time MVP Peyton Manning.

The report says that while the Green Bay Packers and Miami Dolphins also were believed to be interested in acquiring Tebow, the trade talks are exclusively down to the Jets and Jaguars.

Tebow was expected to be dealt for a third-round pick.

The widely popular 24-year-old hails from Jacksonville, but the source said he would prefer playing time over a return to his home town.

New Jaguars owner Shahid Khan finished negotiating with Tebow's representatives and the Broncos late Tuesday night, and the talks were expected to resume Wednesday morning.

The New York Post reported that the Jets had held serious internal discussions about trading for Tebow.

Tebow could give the Jets a new dimension at quarterback to complement starter Mark Sanchez. Tebow could run the wildcat formation, a favorite of head coach Rex Ryan and new offensive coordinator Tony Sparano.

A Post source said the Jets also think Tebow could have a positive effect in repairing their dysfunctional locker room.

The move would give the Jets a huge surge of interest. Members of the Jets organization have noticed what Jeremy Lin has done with the Knicks, and Tebow in New York could be even bigger.

FOX Sports reported Monday the Broncos had been quietly shopping Tebow since the NFL Scouting Combine in late February, trying to gauge interest around the league as they prepared to make a run for Manning.

Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway denied Tuesday having held formal talks with any team about the Heisman Trophy winner.

According to a close friend of Tebow, he prefers his next destination to be in Florida, where he came to fame playing for the Gators.

"Brad and I just had dinner with Tim last week and I don't think this comes as a shock or surprise to him that Manning was actually going to go there," Monica Culpepper, the wife of former NFL and Florida Gators player Brad Culpepper, told 970 WFLA radio in Tampa on Tuesday.

"And in all honesty, Tim said, 'I miss home. I miss the South. And hopefully I'll land somewhere in Florida.' "

The Jaguars are seen as a natural fit for the Jacksonville native and former Gators star, but the team has two quarterbacks in veteran Chad Henne and last year's 10th overall pick, Blaine Gabbert.

But the acquisition of the 24-year-old Tebow would surely energize a franchise that has struggled with attendance in recent years.

Tebow led the Broncos on an improbable run to the AFC West title and a playoff victory last season, but he is also a quarterback whose throwing ability is still a work in progress.

 

[Wadsworth]

This line is not a good sign for Jacksonville:

"New Jaguars owner Shahid Khan finished negotiating with Tebow's representatives and the Broncos late Tuesday night, and the talks were expected to resume Wednesday morning."

Not Gene Smith the GM, but Shahid Khan the owner. There are rumors around Jacksonville that Gene Smith is going to resign after the draft in large part due to this Tebow situation. He does not want to be a token GM for a Jerry Jones type owner.

 

[EBF]

The burning question now:

Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

 

[Casting Couch]

The burning question now:

Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

Saskatchewan Roughriders?

 

[Donnybrook]

Hoge: Tebow to Jets 'Horrendous Idea'

 

[Dr. Awesome]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

 

[Wadsworth]

The burning question now:Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

I would rather have Gabbert than Tebow. Gabbert had an awful year, but he is 22 and had no off season to learn and didn't even get first team reps until after the season started. The coaching staff was terrible and knew they were on the way out. His receivers were as bad as any team in the league. But Blaine does at least have an NFL arm and might develop. Tebow is a sideshow.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The burning question now:Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

I would rather have Gabbert than Tebow. Gabbert had an awful year, but he is 22 and had no off season to learn and didn't even get first team reps until after the season started. The coaching staff was terrible and knew they were on the way out. His receivers were as bad as any team in the league. But Blaine does at least have an NFL arm and might develop. Tebow is a sideshow.

I'm no Tebow supporter...but if I had to choose between the two I'll take Tebow. Easily. Tebow has at least shown glimpses of being a good qb. Gabbert looks like he doesn't belong in the NFL even as a backup.

 

[Wadsworth]

Jaguars.com message board reactions:

-I have a sinking feeling in my gut about this. I haven't had this bad of a feeling about the Jags since Weaver decided to keep Del Rio around after one of his many failures as a coach. I wouldn't blame Gene Smith for leaving if this move does happen and it's Khan's move.

-Why me Football Gods? Why my jags? Can't Timmy ruin some other team?

-Oh boy. The worse part about all of this is the fact our owner may be doing the negotiations. Get your waxy mustache back behind the desk Mr!

-I have that sinking feeling you get when your favorite team loses.

-Wow, a 3rd round pick? Please tell me I'm having a nightmare

-3rd round pick?! Please be the Jets...please be the Jets...

-I think I just soiled my jorts at the thought of that... (jorts = jean shorts, kind of an inside joke)

-I will applaud Gene Smith if he chooses to walk away from a situation where he does not get to perform his job without meddling by a owner without football knowledge. I would do the same for Mularkey if he were ever to leave for the same reason.

Not exactly the Tebow love-fest the national media expects from Jagaurs fans.

 

[az_prof]

The burning question now:Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

I would rather have Gabbert than Tebow. Gabbert had an awful year, but he is 22 and had no off season to learn and didn't even get first team reps until after the season started. The coaching staff was terrible and knew they were on the way out. His receivers were as bad as any team in the league. But Blaine does at least have an NFL arm and might develop. Tebow is a sideshow.

Honestly, do people read what they write? I have nothing against Gabbert. He may turn out to be great. Didn't watch him last year. So, you could be right! But every argument you make about why you would rather have him than Tebow is true also of Tebow--except Tebow was successful and Gabbert wasn't. Tebow is 24--still very young and presumably, capable of improvement. He also had no off season to learn. He also didn't get first team reps until after the season started. His coaching staff may not be terrible, but they didn't put him in a good situation to succeed early on. His receivers were bad--two second year players, and one coming off a serious injury; no TE. Tebow has an NFL arm, if by that you mean a strong arm. The last claim, "Tebow is a sideshow," is an opinion and has nothing to do with his ability.

 

[captbly]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

have you seen them play?

 

[Donnybrook]

Remember when Chad Henne refer to Tebow "as not an NFL QB". What a cruel twist of fate it would be when he has to compete for playing time with him.

 

[hostile]

Not sure too many people have actually watched any of the QBs in question here.

Gabbert looked like a highschool kid who was absolutely terrified of the rush. He looked scared. Truly scared. He threw off of his back foot a lot. He wouldnt/didnt climb the pocket. I dont know if you can teach courage in the face of an NFL rush...

I'm no guru on NFL QB mechanics, but even I can tell Tebow is just horrid mechanically (that *gigantic* wind up of his is, well, gigantic). <48% completion rate. Unable to progress through his reads, therefore, he constantly locks onto his 1st read. Otoh, Tebow's intangibles are off-the-charts, and he's actually a challenger; he really likes to throw down-field - a lot. Obviously, the kid can run the ball like a fullback too.

With all of that said though, anywhere he goes the whole religion thing and what not - he's a distraction and a polarizing player, but I can see why Khan wants him. I can see why Smith doesnt. Ultimately, the guy who writes the checks is the boss. That's not Smith.

I am *not* a Tebow fan, but if I'm coaching Jax and I'm down 20-17 with 10:00 left in the 4th, I'd want Tebow under center - not Gabbert.

 

[Wadsworth]

The burning question now:Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

I would rather have Gabbert than Tebow. Gabbert had an awful year, but he is 22 and had no off season to learn and didn't even get first team reps until after the season started. The coaching staff was terrible and knew they were on the way out. His receivers were as bad as any team in the league. But Blaine does at least have an NFL arm and might develop. Tebow is a sideshow.

Honestly, do people read what they write? I have nothing against Gabbert. He may turn out to be great. Didn't watch him last year. So, you could be right! But every argument you make about why you would rather have him than Tebow is true also of Tebow--except Tebow was successful and Gabbert wasn't. Tebow is 24--still very young and presumably, capable of improvement. He also had no off season to learn. He also didn't get first team reps until after the season started. His coaching staff may not be terrible, but they didn't put him in a good situation to succeed early on. His receivers were bad--two second year players, and one coming off a serious injury; no TE. Tebow has an NFL arm, if by that you mean a strong arm. The last claim, "Tebow is a sideshow," is an opinion and has nothing to do with his ability.

-Tebow played four years of college ball and is in his second year in the NFL. Gabbert came out as a junior and is the youngest QB in the history of the League to start 14 games. I do not see a 1 to 1 comparison there.- Tebow played in and started games last year. So I doubt missing off season work outs hurt him as much as it did a rookie.- Please do not compare the Denver WRs to the Jaguars.-Del Rio bailed on that team halfway through the season, it was a mess.I know a lot of people are ready to write Gabbert off. And while I am not thrilled with him I do see a kid with an amazing arm that is smart and works hard. He could develop. Tebow clearly has the work ethic, but I do not think his arm to close to Gabbert's and I expect the surprise factor of the spread plays will wear off quickly as NFL teams figure it out. I would rather have Gabbert.

 

[biju]

Jesus, the Jets are going to end up paying Sanchez about $35 million a year in "make-up money" if they keep this up...

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I guess I was wrong about Jax not going after him.

Gene Smith getting in a snit and leaving is the best thing that could happen to that franchise.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

 

[RBM]

Wow those Jags fans act like they are perrenial winners or something. Did they happen to miss that January Sunday, where the defending conference champs had their season end?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

I agree with MT. I would also rather have Tebow than Garrard. It's not possible for every team to have an elite QB because there are so few. You can do a lot worse than Tebow in a league where guys like Tavarvis Jackson and Curtis Painter end up as starters in any given year.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Not sure too many people have actually watched any of the QBs in question here.Gabbert looked like a highschool kid who was absolutely terrified of the rush. He looked scared. Truly scared. He threw off of his back foot a lot. He wouldnt/didnt climb the pocket. I dont know if you can teach courage in the face of an NFL rush...I'm no guru on NFL QB mechanics, but even I can tell Tebow is just horrid mechanically (that *gigantic* wind up of his is, well, gigantic). <48% completion rate. Unable to progress through his reads, therefore, he constantly locks onto his 1st read. Otoh, Tebow's intangibles are off-the-charts, and he's actually a challenger; he really likes to throw down-field - a lot. Obviously, the kid can run the ball like a fullback too.With all of that said though, anywhere he goes the whole religion thing and what not - he's a distraction and a polarizing player, but I can see why Khan wants him. I can see why Smith doesnt. Ultimately, the guy who writes the checks is the boss. That's not Smith.I am *not* a Tebow fan, but if I'm coaching Jax and I'm down 20-17 with 10:00 left in the 4th, I'd want Tebow under center - not Gabbert.

-Tebow played four years of college ball and is in his second year in the NFL. Gabbert came out as a junior and is the youngest QB in the history of the League to start 14 games. I do not see a 1 to 1 comparison there.- Tebow played in and started games last year. So I doubt missing off season work outs hurt him as much as it did a rookie.- Please do not compare the Denver WRs to the Jaguars.-Del Rio bailed on that team halfway through the season, it was a mess.I know a lot of people are ready to write Gabbert off. And while I am not thrilled with him I do see a kid with an amazing arm that is smart and works hard. He could develop. Tebow clearly has the work ethic, but I do not think his arm to close to Gabbert's and I expect the surprise factor of the spread plays will wear off quickly as NFL teams figure it out. I would rather have Gabbert.

These are 2 great posts. I'll agree with Wadsworth in that as bad as Gabbert looked, I'd still rather have him than Tebow. Gabbert still has an outside shot (a very outside shot) of being a great NFL QB. Tebow has a decent chance of being a below average to average NFL QB, but I don't think he has any chance of being a great QB. Though my philosophy is pretty heavily against building a team for mediocrity, I'd much prefer being 2-14 than 6-10.

 

[Wadsworth]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

Right now, if I had to win one I would agree. But I think Gabbert at least has a chance at developing into top tier QB. I do not think that is going to happen with Tebow.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

the Jets also think Tebow could have a positive effect in repairing their dysfunctional locker room.

Never underestimate the importance of "team" and "leadership" in the NFL.

 

[flapgreen]

I'd hate to see Jacksonville's long run of success derailed by Tebow.

 

[flapgreen]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

Right now, if I had to win one I would agree. But I think Gabbert at least has a chance at developing into top tier QB. I do not think that is going to happen with Tebow.

Gabbert is fearless in the pocket. The guy has icewater in his veins and refuses to lose.

 

[UTLonghorn31]

Gene Smith should have resigned the moment he selected Gabbert. How can you take a QB that high that had every trend of a failure? Tebow has every trend of a winner... he is raw, and Fox did not help him by boxing him in with the scheme that they had. Go look at Tebow's end of 2010 season when they were more wide open. There are two key numbers to winning and Tebow is superior to Gabbert in both by a long shot. The Jags would be a borderline playoff team just with the Gabbert to Tebow switch. Gabbert is a sissy, and Tebow brings it to the opponent. His mechanics may not be pretty, nor his completion percentage, but look at his yards per attempt, and he doesn't turn the ball over. A low completion only matters if it correlates with higher interceptions. Tebow is far from a finished product, yet he is winning despite being raw. As a GM, wins are the goal, not completion percentage...

 

[Perfect Tommy]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denver-broncos-expected-to-trade-tim-tebow-to-new-york-jets-or-jacksonville-jaguars-032012

The report says that while the Green Bay Packers and Miami Dolphins also were believed to be interested in acquiring Tebow, the trade talks are exclusively down to the Jets and Jaguars.

This is the key. The Packers are probably the best in the NFL at evaluating QB talent, and they are also notoriously stingy traders. They want to trade for Tebow?! This tells me that he really is a great prospect. Tebow was known for one thing above all, winning. Well, winning and Tebowing. Anyway, the guy has played in an unconventional way and has had fantastic success. Isn't it just possible his success is because he is a good player? As far as calling him a polarizing figure, I don't think he has polarized any team he has been on, has he? It seems to me his DEN teammates loved him. Here is my dream scenario. Tebow goes to the Packers and faces the Broncos in the Superbowl. Rodgers is hurt and Tebow is pressed into duty. Tebow leads a late comeback to win the game on a 60 yard Starks run. Tebow is given all the credit and nobody pays any attention to Starks. Tebowmania exceeds all other manias combined.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Gabbert is fearless in the pocket. The guy has icewater in his veins and refuses to lose.

He laughs at danger and scoffs at doom. Lions avert their gaze when Blaine looks their way.

 

[DoubleG]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

I agree with MT. I would also rather have Tebow than Garrard. It's not possible for every team to have an elite QB because there are so few. You can do a lot worse than Tebow in a league where guys like Tavarvis Jackson and Curtis Painter end up as starters in any given year.

by both TT and Maurile. Denver's defense was bottom third in points allowed - and their offensive line was bottom third in sacks allowed (yes, some had to do with Tebow) - and yet they still made the playoffs and beat the Steelers in round 1. I understand that QBs sometimes get too much credit for wins and losses - but sometimes the "Tebowmania backlash" is almost as nonsensical as the mania is to begin with.

Tebow holds 5 NCAA passing records and is the SEC's all time leader in passer efficiency. The point? He is actually a decent passer, but like many young QBs (keep in mind that like Gabbert, Tebow only has 14 regular season games started too) he needs to work on reading defenses, going through his progressions, etc.

I am not suggesting Tebow will be the next (inset any great QB here) - but seriously. Blane Gabbert? Child, please.

 

[The Comedian]

Henne > Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

 

[renesauz]

Some few of us will root for Tebow all the louder just knowing that so many folks have such an irrational hate of him!

Seriously...he's got the heart of a winner, and the work ethic to continue to improve. As raw as he was coming in, it's crazy to think he can't become a very good (maybe even elite some day) QB in the NFL. No clue that he will...cards are still stacked against him...but he CAN.

 

[Yenrub]

Would a Tebow for Henne trade work salary cap wise?

If/when the Broncos trade Tebow who is their backup QB?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Gabbert is fearless in the pocket. The guy has icewater in his veins and refuses to lose.

He laughs at danger and scoffs at doom. Lions avert their gaze when Blaine looks their way.

 

[Crippler]

I prefer Gabbert for the Jags and this is an owner wanting him while the rest of his staff says NO. This is not a football decision.

Reading lately and Gabbert reminds me of Aaron Rodgers who had nothing but bad things said about him after his rookie season and 2nd year even. I think with a full training camp(and he is working right now with a QB guru to prepare) that he does have the higher upside. Gabbert will have to be traded if this happens and he will draw more interest than Tebow IMO. And someone will get a steal and develop him. Jags will not win anything with Tebow. They may not with Gabbert but the chances are still there if he does develop like a Rodgers did. The kid has big heart also.

I liked this article

The Jaguars already have quarterback Blaine Gabbert, a second-year player they traded up to get last April in the first round. They also have Chad Henne, who they signed as a free agent.

The front office believes in Gabbert, who became the youngest quarterback (22) in NFL history to start 14 games last season. Yes, he struggled last season, but there were reasons. Bad offense. Bad style. Bad coaching. Bad receivers. He wasn't even allowed to use sight adjustments at the line of scrimmage. You know how restrictive that is for a quarterback?

There are some who insist he isn't tough, that he flinches in the pocket. At times, Gabbert did that. But he improved with his pocket presence as the season moved along, and that was way overblown by media comments made during telecasts. Who wouldn't flinch with two receivers running routes and nobody open and a right tackle playing the role of a spinning top?

Gabbert is everything Tebow isn't: Tall, strong-armed, the prototypical NFL passer. He needs work. He needs an offseason. But he can get there.

As for Henne, he was signed to come in as a veteran backup to Gabbert, a player who could push him if need be.

 

[inzanitee]

Some few of us will root for Tebow all the louder just knowing that so many folks have such an irrational hate of him!

Seriously...he's got the heart of a winner, and the work ethic to continue to improve. As raw as he was coming in, it's crazy to think he can't become a very good (maybe even elite some day) QB in the NFL. No clue that he will...cards are still stacked against him...but he CAN.

I think it's possible he becomes a good QB, but unlikely. And I don't think it's an irrational hatred. I don't hate Tim Tebow, I think he's a good guy with a great work ethic. However, I despise watching him play; It's horrible football. He needs a massive amount of improvement to even become an adequate passer in this league. So as a fan of watching good football I either want him to vastly improve or never, ever start. I mean watching him play is torture.

 

[Possum]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

Right now, if I had to win one I would agree. But I think Gabbert at least has a chance at developing into top tier QB. I do not think that is going to happen with Tebow.

the odds are good that both flame out of the league in the next few years, but if I was taking a chance on one to succeed, it wouldn't be Gabbert. Although it's gonna take a while to get there (if ever), Tebow's long-term potential is Steve Young, and I don't think Gabbert has anything close to that in him.

 

[Warpig]

This line is not a good sign for Jacksonville:"New Jaguars owner Shahid Khan finished negotiating with Tebow's representatives and the Broncos late Tuesday night, and the talks were expected to resume Wednesday morning."Not Gene Smith the GM, but Shahid Khan the owner. There are rumors around Jacksonville that Gene Smith is going to resign after the draft in large part due to this Tebow situation. He does not want to be a token GM for a Jerry Jones type owner.

Gene Smith is inept and absolutely clueless about what makes a good or even decent football player. I would be ecstatic if he were to resign. I don't think we could do much worse for a GM.However, I do agree that it is bad business for your owner to be negotiating for players. I've already lost respect for Khan because he kept Gene Smith instead of jettisoning him along with Del Rio.And if I've said it once, I've said it 1000 times...GABBERT IS NOT NFL MATERIAL! I lived in Missouri and got to watch a lot of his football games. My inlaws are HUGE Missouri fans and even they said he sucked. He is not a leader, is afraid of contact, has a sporadic arm. All he offers is heavenly, golden locks. How do you expect any of his teammates to respect him when he was so quick to fall into the fetal position or throw the ball into the dirt at the sight of an oncoming D-lineman?Tebow, while unorthodox, has atleast shown that HE IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER! And he has shown he has leadership ability and can get his teammates to play beyond their means. I'd much rather have that and take my chances he improves than pansy-### Gabbert. Gabbert was even horrible in college with plenty of weapons while running a spread offense! The only reason he got drafted was due to his measurables from the combine. Another example of Gene Smith's ignorance.

 

[gandalas]

The burning question now:

Which team trades a 7th round pick for Blaine Gabbert?

I would rather have Gabbert than Tebow. Gabbert had an awful year, but he is 22 and had no off season to learn and didn't even get first team reps until after the season started. The coaching staff was terrible and knew they were on the way out. His receivers were as bad as any team in the league. But Blaine does at least have an NFL arm and might develop. Tebow is a sideshow.

Honestly, do people read what they write? I have nothing against Gabbert. He may turn out to be great. Didn't watch him last year. So, you could be right! But every argument you make about why you would rather have him than Tebow is true also of Tebow--except Tebow was successful and Gabbert wasn't. Tebow is 24--still very young and presumably, capable of improvement. He also had no off season to learn. He also didn't get first team reps until after the season started. His coaching staff may not be terrible, but they didn't put him in a good situation to succeed early on. His receivers were bad--two second year players, and one coming off a serious injury; no TE. Tebow has an NFL arm, if by that you mean a strong arm. The last claim, "Tebow is a sideshow," is an opinion and has nothing to do with his ability.

-Tebow played four years of college ball and is in his second year in the NFL. Gabbert came out as a junior and is the youngest QB in the history of the League to start 14 games. I do not see a 1 to 1 comparison there.- Tebow played in and started games last year. So I doubt missing off season work outs hurt him as much as it did a rookie.



- Please do not compare the Denver WRs to the Jaguars.

-Del Rio bailed on that team halfway through the season, it was a mess.

I know a lot of people are ready to write Gabbert off. And while I am not thrilled with him I do see a kid with an amazing arm that is smart and works hard. He could develop. Tebow clearly has the work ethic, but I do not think his arm to close to Gabbert's and I expect the surprise factor of the spread plays will wear off quickly as NFL teams figure it out. I would rather have Gabbert.

Please do not compare the Denver RBs to the Jaguars either. You would think that having MJD in the backfield facing 8-man boxes every down would lessen pressure on the QB as well. So at best I would call it even. Worse WRs, sure, but a HECK of a lot better RB.

 

[fightingillini]

Tebow > Sanchez > Gabbert.

I agree with MT. I would also rather have Tebow than Garrard. It's not possible for every team to have an elite QB because there are so few. You can do a lot worse than Tebow in a league where guys like Tavarvis Jackson and Curtis Painter end up as starters in any given year.

by both TT and Maurile. Denver's defense was bottom third in points allowed - and their offensive line was bottom third in sacks allowed (yes, some had to do with Tebow) - and yet they still made the playoffs and beat the Steelers in round 1. I understand that QBs sometimes get too much credit for wins and losses - but sometimes the "Tebowmania backlash" is almost as nonsensical as the mania is to begin with.

Tebow holds 5 NCAA passing records and is the SEC's all time leader in passer efficiency. The point? He is actually a decent passer, but like many young QBs (keep in mind that like Gabbert, Tebow only has 14 regular season games started too) he needs to work on reading defenses, going through his progressions, etc.

I am not suggesting Tebow will be the next (inset any great QB here) - but seriously. Blane Gabbert? Child, please.

You can't teach intangibles. Tebow is a winner. Period. And he has a great attitude and knows that he needs to get better. While his mechanics are not great, a lot of his accuracy problems come from not knowing exactly where the ball needs to be thrown....ie reading defenses. When Tebow knows where the ball needs to be thrown, he can deliever it on target.....just like the 80 yard TD strike to Thomas in the playoff game.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

It does, but in the Jets case with Tony Sporano as the new OC Tebow is attractive as a Wild Cat QB.

 

[Abraham]

I'd hate to see Jacksonville's long run of success derailed by Tebow.

I prefer Gabbert for the Jags and this is an owner wanting him while the rest of his staff says NO. This is not a football decision. Reading lately and Gabbert reminds me of Aaron Rodgers who had nothing but bad things said about him after his rookie season and 2nd year even. I think with a full training camp(and he is working right now with a QB guru to prepare) that he does have the higher upside. Gabbert will have to be traded if this happens and he will draw more interest than Tebow IMO. And someone will get a steal and develop him. Jags will not win anything with Tebow. They may not with Gabbert but the chances are still there if he does develop like a Rodgers did. The kid has big heart also. I liked this articleThe Jaguars already have quarterback Blaine Gabbert, a second-year player they traded up to get last April in the first round. They also have Chad Henne, who they signed as a free agent. The front office believes in Gabbert, who became the youngest quarterback (22) in NFL history to start 14 games last season. Yes, he struggled last season, but there were reasons. Bad offense. Bad style. Bad coaching. Bad receivers. He wasn't even allowed to use sight adjustments at the line of scrimmage. You know how restrictive that is for a quarterback? There are some who insist he isn't tough, that he flinches in the pocket. At times, Gabbert did that. But he improved with his pocket presence as the season moved along, and that was way overblown by media comments made during telecasts. Who wouldn't flinch with two receivers running routes and nobody open and a right tackle playing the role of a spinning top? Gabbert is everything Tebow isn't: Tall, strong-armed, the prototypical NFL passer. He needs work. He needs an offseason. But he can get there. As for Henne, he was signed to come in as a veteran backup to Gabbert, a player who could push him if need be.

Blaine Gabbert has literally NOTHING in common with Aaron Rodgers at this point in their career. Rodgers was an accomplished college player with fantastic accuracy who fell inexplicably on draft day and ended up learning behind a HOF QB in a very solid offense. The only things said about Rodgers after his first two seasons were in reference to practice and his quiet impatience about being a backup for a full two years with no playing time in sight.Gabbert was not an accomplished college player and had poor accuracy but Jax traded up to get him. HE then put on the worst performance at QB in the history of the NFL as a rookie starter in an offense that was atrocious (in part because of him). And the coach that supported Gabbert's selection is on longer on the staff.I find it odd that so many people (not just you) think that a player who has NEVER shown to be a good passer (Gabbert, Kyle Boller, etc.) is given lots of slack to "develop" but a player who has shown to be a good passer (even if only at the college level) is thought of as having no upside as a passer. Seems odd to me. I know that traditional football folks think that the only way to win is with a big armed QB that stands tall in the pocket. But there aren't many of those around (7 right now, by my math in Manning, Manning, Ben, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and Rivers.). The game evolves, offenses change. It wasn't long ago that the way to win a Super Bowl was with a QB who didn't turn the ball over and handed off a lot (Aikman, Montana) or a QB that could throw all over the place but was a threat to run (Elway, Young).

 

[Crash Davis]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

It does, but in the Jets case with Tony Sporano as the new OC Tebow is attractive as a Wild Cat QB.

Tebow doesn't want to be Brad Smtih 2.0, he wants to be a starting QB and last year did nothing to make him think he can't. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Jets. HUGE. A regime and Sanchez career ruining mistake. I can't stress enough how much I do not want this to happen.

 

[DoubleG]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

It does, but in the Jets case with Tony Sporano as the new OC Tebow is attractive as a Wild Cat QB.

Tebow doesn't want to be Brad Smtih 2.0, he wants to be a starting QB and last year did nothing to make him think he can't. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Jets. HUGE. A regime and Sanchez career ruining mistake. I can't stress enough how much I do not want this to happen.

Now see? As an outsider I thought Sanchez was the regime ruining mistake.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

It does, but in the Jets case with Tony Sporano as the new OC Tebow is attractive as a Wild Cat QB.

Tebow doesn't want to be Brad Smtih 2.0, he wants to be a starting QB and last year did nothing to make him think he can't. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Jets. HUGE. A regime and Sanchez career ruining mistake. I can't stress enough how much I do not want this to happen.

I agree that I'd prefer for the Jets not to bring him aboard. I was just stating the reasoning isn't solely based on a lack of faith in Sanchez.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I don't hate Tim Tebow, I think he's a good guy with a great work ethic. However, I despise watching him play; It's horrible football. He needs a massive amount of improvement to even become an adequate passer in this league. So as a fan of watching good football I either want him to vastly improve or never, ever start. I mean watching him play is torture.

I feel the same about watching knuckleball pitchers matched up against fastball aces. The style is so dorky, the pitch seems to come from different angles and release points, the speed is softball slow. Yet it's just as effective as the fastball. You may think it looks fluky and shouldn't be logically effective, but somehow it is. Just like in golf, when you see a Lee Trevino backswing, you say "that ain't right". But Tebow for all his mechanical flaws has been nails on the field when it counted. He's been given every opportunity to fail and prove all the haters wrong, and he's succeeded. At some point, you have to give him his due.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

It does, but in the Jets case with Tony Sporano as the new OC Tebow is attractive as a Wild Cat QB.

Tebow doesn't want to be Brad Smtih 2.0, he wants to be a starting QB and last year did nothing to make him think he can't. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Jets. HUGE. A regime and Sanchez career ruining mistake. I can't stress enough how much I do not want this to happen.

Now see? As an outsider I thought Sanchez was the regime ruining mistake.

I watch every game so I know how bad Sanchez can look at times, but he is still relatively young (only started one year in college) and has obviously shown some flashes. While he wasn't solely responsible for bringing the Jets to two AFC Championship games, he certainly stepped up on the biggest stage and played very well in every playoff game he's started.I'm not 100% sold on him yet, but why I'm willing to hold out some hope is I was around NYC for the ealry stages of Eli Manning's carreer. At this same point - the local fans were looking to ride Eli out of town (and beleive me he looked far worse than Sanchez at times) and look what a little patience from the Giants front office produced.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Gabbert is everything Tebow isn't: Tall, strong-armed, the prototypical NFL passer.

Also scared of getting touched and generally not well regarded even by fans of his own alma mater.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

The only team that makes sense for Tebow is Jacksonville. Why the Jets would want him after investing all that money in Sanchez is puzzling. He offers nothing but a headache QB controversy to an incumbent QB that is already on shaky ground in the eyes of the press and media. His only redeeming quality is a boost of morale in the locker room, and some gimmick option plays here and there. For a 3rd rounder? Really? And once you acquire a Tim Tebow, you acquire a religious movement of fans who will torture you to no end if you decide to move him. Is this what the Jets want?

 

[Kiddnets]

This shows how little faith the teams have in Gabbert/Sanchez.

It does, but in the Jets case with Tony Sporano as the new OC Tebow is attractive as a Wild Cat QB.

Tebow doesn't want to be Brad Smtih 2.0, he wants to be a starting QB and last year did nothing to make him think he can't. This would be a HUGE mistake for the Jets. HUGE. A regime and Sanchez career ruining mistake. I can't stress enough how much I do not want this to happen.

I agree that I'd prefer for the Jets not to bring him aboard. I was just stating the reasoning isn't solely based on a lack of faith in Sanchez.

Jets need playmakers and the guy makes plays....if Sanchez gets offended with Tebow on the roster as a WC QB...tough. Man up and raise your game....I wouldnt mind a little competition for Sanchez that isnt a retread like Stanton.

 

[ldizzle]

I guess the packers have an interest in Tebow also, hmmm.....

 

[fatness]

Please trade Tebow to the Jets, an up-and-coming team with a unified locker room and no established, high-paid QB.

I want to see the