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I said it last week and got this fantastic response from you: NegativeI never did really hear back from you after last weekSay what you have to say. The HUCKS routine is weak.
I only posted about 20 times since then.
IS that still a TD?? Or are screen passes not valid in the NFL.. Last I checked the Eagles throw a lot of the short passes with Vick and no one is crying about it like you are.263 yards 1 TD 1int so far for the day. I am sorry Raider Nation, but you are just grasping for straws at this point.TD on yet another screen pass.Get the yellow jacket ready!
Of course you posted about 20 times. And all of them saying he got lucky, looked terrible, etc. So no, I don't think you ever made it back to acknowledge that Tebow played better than "horrible" last week which most have acknowledged.I said it last week and got this fantastic response from you: NegativeI never did really hear back from you after last weekSay what you have to say. The HUCKS routine is weak.
I only posted about 20 times since then.
And let's bottom-line this. He has led Denver to 10 points thru 3 quarters against the worst defense I've ever seen.
Maybe I spoke too soon...
Huh? It is his second game. Or do you mean that he would make a roster?
He threw a 20-yard LASER to Lloyd along the sidelines that shocked the hell out of me. Never saw him flash anything like that at UF.
This is page 11 of this thread, so there's probably a pi$$ing contest about whether he'll be a failure or not. I haven't read any of it except for a few on this page and I could care less how he does. I just remember people saying he'd be a Tony Rice or Eric Crouch type and never be a QB in the pros.. He's an NFL quarterback. And unless I'm reading the scores wrong, he's also a winning NFL quarterback. And it had A LOT to do directly with him./ Over 300 yards passing and a rushing touchdown.
In 25 games Leaf had one game this good. His first four games, none were as good as even Tebow's first game. Keep fishing.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...games.htm?redirHe's "made it" already?Ryan Leaf looked pretty good for a few games also.
Nobody hates the cat. How could you? He's everything that's good about sports.I just think people "hate" to be proven wrong. But I won't go into hiding. If he proves to be a capable QB week in and week out, I'll give him props. But we won't know much until September. And the ownership has stated that whomever the new coach is will not be married to Tebow, so there's no guarantee he even starts next year.
It was the Texans, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Who said anything about Leaf's "first four games," Sparky?In 25 games Leaf had one game this good. His first four games, none were as good as even Tebow's first game. Keep fishing.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...games.htm?redirHe's "made it" already?
In fairness - those guys aren't first rounders. And Tebow doesn't look like a first rounder to me just yet...#2 for me.....it's not the hate for Tebow ...but the hate for the hype machine ...which will be in full force here in Denver after this one as he carved up the worst pass defense in the league for a 1 point win - heck it was barely acceptable after last weeks butt kicking from Oakland . It will be difficult to get the balance here in this town and this kind of performance may really cloud how good(or bad) he is and if by chance Luck is there-getting him and a real NFL looking QB.
Dude hasn't had a good QB since Kenny Stabler. No wonder he's a hater.
Yeah, Plunkett sucked his way to two rings.
no. there are a LOT of people who hate Tim tebow...
Not really.He's "made it" already?Ryan Leaf looked pretty good for a few games also.
NTTAWWT
Still a LONG way to go but has already proved some of the Tebow-"haters" wrong that suggested exactly what FreeBaGel just stated.The guy DOES have an NFL arm.The guy DOES have more than adequate speed/power for the NFL.The guy CAN make some reads.Now, is all that enough? It isn't even for more prototypical QBs as it takes a lot more. Consistency, work ethic, ability to read defenses and adjust, etc. The thing is, with the tools in place, I think Tebow has the drive and work ethic to succeed. Let's just see if he does.
Good comments. At this point, I don't know if Tebow is going to be a great NFL Qb, but at a minimum I know he is far better than the haters thought and that he is an NFL QB. One thing that gives me optimism is that he has the right attitude. Attitude counts for a lot with a QB because there is always so much to learn and resilience and mental toughness is critical.Still a LONG way to go but has already proved some of the Tebow-"haters" wrong that suggested exactly what FreeBaGel just stated.The guy DOES have an NFL arm.The guy DOES have more than adequate speed/power for the NFL.The guy CAN make some reads.Now, is all that enough? It isn't even for more prototypical QBs as it takes a lot more. Consistency, work ethic, ability to read defenses and adjust, etc. The thing is, with the tools in place, I think Tebow has the drive and work ethic to succeed. Let's just see if he does.
People give way too much credit to the NFL draft pundits and these guys find something like Tebow's "slow release", hang it on him, and continually justify their low (or high) ranking based on said observation. More often than not these "tv scouts" don't know what they are talking about. For the life of me I have no idea why people give so much credit to these talking heads when year after year they are proven to be wrong more often than not. In this case, Tebow is able to compensate for the slower than normal release with his legs, buying himself extra time by moving out of the pocket.gianmarco said:
You must have missed the Gruden era when Gannon won MVP.JuniorNB said:
Hate all you want, but you were wrong. 300 yards, a TD pass, and the game winning TD run. Against players who I'd imagine would still like a ajob next year. He's a "viable" NFL quarterack at this point. More than most people predicted. They said he'd end up a tigth end. Or a year or two as a clipboard holder and then released. It sucks to be so wrong, doesn't it?
Romo -- 284 ydsEli -- 297 ydsPeyton -- 268 ydsRivers -- 295 ydsCassel -- 201 ydsFlacco -- 235 ydsTebow -- 308 ydsThose are the passing yards allowed to some QBs by Houston this year. I'm just saying. Sure, they are a terrible pass defense, but that doesn't mean that he did any less against them than other top QBs. 300+ yds passing is 300+ yds. There are plenty of starting NFL QBs that don't hit 300 yds passing even once in an entire year even after playing terrible pass defenses. Flacco, for instance, has one game with 301 yards and that's it. Matt Ryan only has one for 316 yds this year. He only had 1 last year. Cutler only has one game all year over 300 yds back in week 1. And it's not as if those aren't pass-heavy offenses or that they face top 10 pass defenses every single week. Tebow just threw for 300 yds in his 2nd NFL start ever. And let's not forget, he's not supposed to be able to throw the ball. He's just a RB back there who throws an occasional pass, right?
Good and fair analysis. I also saw him leave his feet to throw at times and it is an injury concern. But, that is something that definitely can be corrected. I didn't notice him telegraphing in the shotgun but that also is very correctable. I also noticed his pocket presence, and that cannot easily be taught. He did a good job of buying extra time with his feet and he didn't always run when he moved out of the pocket, allowing him to make some nice downfield throws. I think the whole throwing motion thing was a red herring but whether or not he can consistently find the open man (he has thrown into double coverage a number of times) and whether he can have the accuracy to make the mid to long throw consistently, I don't know yet.
