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[AllVolUT]

Show me where I compared LSU’s DEF to FSU’s. I was just posting Tebow’s stats against LSU. Who has UF beaten? They lost to their 2 toughest opponents, LSU and Auburn. For the record FSU beat a ranked Alabama team who plays in the so called might SEC.

FAIL.Florida's 2 toughest opponents have been LSU and UT. They barely lost to LSU (who they should lose to) and they pounded UT.

Alabama is terrible. The fact they were ranked is immaterial.

UT is just as terrible.

Ok, sure.

Wow...they beat Georgia.Other than that...they looked awful against both Florida and Cal.

They are lucky they don't play LSU this year...or Auburn for that matter.

They will have a tough time at Alabama and at UK...and SC should give them a test as well.

UT was awful against Florida. They got beat by a better team at Cal. SC will give them fits, but they should stomp Bama and Kentucky. As I've said over and over, Fulmer wins when he is supposed to and loses when he is supposed to. I'm trying to figure out how that makes this a "terrible" team. No, Tennessee is not a top-15 team in the country, but they are far from terrible.

Dowling is spot on with UT. That is there entire M.O., and always been then case in the Fulmer era. As far as talent goes, they have just as much as the next guy. They are fielding a very young offense (only losing Ainge next year, where Crompton can finally start) and very young defense with two true freshmen corners. Just like against Arky and Kent, UT was left for nothing but came out victorious. SEC East Champs!/end hijack.

Now all that being said, Tebow is an amazing college QB and runs Meyer's scheme as well as anybody could. He is UF football right now and, as a UT fan, I don't know how you stop this guy. As far as a NFL prospect, the jury is still out. To my recollection, there has never been a college QB with the stature and physicality of Tebow. Last year as a freshmen, many SEC fans never thought he would hold up an entire season with the way he plays. Barring a sore shoulder (and a freshly broken non-throwing hand which shouldn't keep him out) he has played every game in its entirety. Now I say the same thing...there is no way Tebow could survive in the NFL with his playing style, right???

 

[bosoxs45]

is it time again to start debating this?

 

[Chase Stuart]

SSOG has been the biggest and most vocal Tebow fan for as long as I can remember. If nothing else, I'm glad he went to SSOG's team so he can continue to root for the guy.

 

[SaintArnold]

SSOG, as a fellow Broncos fan, I've enjoyed your analysis of the team over the years. Make me feel better about this pick, please!

 

[Buffaloes]

SSOG (or somebody) Make me feel better about this pick, please!

 

[SSOG]

SSOG has been the biggest and most vocal Tebow fan for as long as I can remember. If nothing else, I'm glad he went to SSOG's team so he can continue to root for the guy.

I'm glad he went to my team so that I can root for SOMETHING while McDaniels continues to burn the franchise to the ground. Seriously, for the last year it's been getting harder and harder to muster any sort of excitement about the Denver Broncos. Now, no matter how bad they get, at least I have something to be excited and optimistic about.

SSOG, as a fellow Broncos fan, I've enjoyed your analysis of the team over the years. Make me feel better about this pick, please!

To be honest, part of my glowing optimism two years ago (when I thought he was a slam-dunk top 10 pick) was based on the belief that he'd continue to develop. He didn't develop a whole lot over his last two years, so I've cooled on him- I definitely think his pre-draft grade was mostly justified. With that said, despite all the haters, Tebow was still grading out as a 2nd rounder. It's not like Denver took a 7th rounder at the end of the 1st or anything. A lot of people are very very convinced that Tebow will crash and burn, but a lot of people were also willing to bet on him in the second.Tebow definitely does have a lot of problems. He's never had to do much in the way of making reads. He's never taken meaningful snaps from under center. His footwork is a mess. His delivery was a mess. For a guy as strong as he is, he doesn't have a great grasp on how to convert that strength into power on his throws. He's used to operating with a talent advantage. Despite all of this, I'll say what I've always said- I'm well aware of all of the negatives, but I will never bet against Tim Tebow. He's so unbelievably driven, and he's one of the most coachable kids on the planet (just witness what he did with his delivery in just a month). Some guys are so driven to succeed that all of the negatives in the world don't matter (see: Rice, Jerry). I really think that in a year and a half to two years of sitting on the bench and just absorbing everything, Tebow will be as ready for the pro game as anyone. I also think all of the concerns over the offense he played in are just ludicrous. Everyone says that QBs in an offense as gimmicky as Florida's can't succeed in an "NFL-style offense"... but they ignore the fact that the most prolific offense in history (the 2007 New England Patriots) stole probably half of their passing offense directly from Urban Meyer's playbook. Seriously. Belichick went to Meyer for pointers before the season, and the Pats wound up installing and building upon the bulk of Meyer's spread passing game. The offensive coordinator of that team is now the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I'd imagine he's looking to do something similar in Denver to what he did in New England. I'm thinking Tebow's probably the best rookie QB to run that offense, outside of Bradford.

That's why I don't have a problem with the Tebow pick. Maybe they gave up to much to move up to get him, but that was a luxury they could afford because of their moves down. Maybe Tebow would have still been around in the second, maybe he wouldn't have. Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

 

[twr]

SSOG has been the biggest and most vocal Tebow fan for as long as I can remember. If nothing else, I'm glad he went to SSOG's team so he can continue to root for the guy.

I'm glad he went to my team so that I can root for SOMETHING while McDaniels continues to burn the franchise to the ground. Seriously, for the last year it's been getting harder and harder to muster any sort of excitement about the Denver Broncos. Now, no matter how bad they get, at least I have something to be excited and optimistic about.

SSOG, as a fellow Broncos fan, I've enjoyed your analysis of the team over the years. Make me feel better about this pick, please!

To be honest, part of my glowing optimism two years ago (when I thought he was a slam-dunk top 10 pick) was based on the belief that he'd continue to develop. He didn't develop a whole lot over his last two years, so I've cooled on him- I definitely think his pre-draft grade was mostly justified. With that said, despite all the haters, Tebow was still grading out as a 2nd rounder. It's not like Denver took a 7th rounder at the end of the 1st or anything. A lot of people are very very convinced that Tebow will crash and burn, but a lot of people were also willing to bet on him in the second.Tebow definitely does have a lot of problems. He's never had to do much in the way of making reads. He's never taken meaningful snaps from under center. His footwork is a mess. His delivery was a mess. For a guy as strong as he is, he doesn't have a great grasp on how to convert that strength into power on his throws. He's used to operating with a talent advantage. Despite all of this, I'll say what I've always said- I'm well aware of all of the negatives, but I will never bet against Tim Tebow. He's so unbelievably driven, and he's one of the most coachable kids on the planet (just witness what he did with his delivery in just a month). Some guys are so driven to succeed that all of the negatives in the world don't matter (see: Rice, Jerry). I really think that in a year and a half to two years of sitting on the bench and just absorbing everything, Tebow will be as ready for the pro game as anyone. I also think all of the concerns over the offense he played in are just ludicrous. Everyone says that QBs in an offense as gimmicky as Florida's can't succeed in an "NFL-style offense"... but they ignore the fact that the most prolific offense in history (the 2007 New England Patriots) stole probably half of their passing offense directly from Urban Meyer's playbook. Seriously. Belichick went to Meyer for pointers before the season, and the Pats wound up installing and building upon the bulk of Meyer's spread passing game. The offensive coordinator of that team is now the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I'd imagine he's looking to do something similar in Denver to what he did in New England. I'm thinking Tebow's probably the best rookie QB to run that offense, outside of Bradford.

That's why I don't have a problem with the Tebow pick. Maybe they gave up to much to move up to get him, but that was a luxury they could afford because of their moves down. Maybe Tebow would have still been around in the second, maybe he wouldn't have. Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

sometimes you have to throw your chips in on the underdog because they wont accept failure. tebow will be fine. im also of the belief that thomas wasnt as far behind dez as some would think... (dez was my #1 rated wr, but not by much.)

 

[theglorydays]

SSOG has been the biggest and most vocal Tebow fan for as long as I can remember. If nothing else, I'm glad he went to SSOG's team so he can continue to root for the guy.

I'm glad he went to my team so that I can root for SOMETHING while McDaniels continues to burn the franchise to the ground. Seriously, for the last year it's been getting harder and harder to muster any sort of excitement about the Denver Broncos. Now, no matter how bad they get, at least I have something to be excited and optimistic about.

SSOG, as a fellow Broncos fan, I've enjoyed your analysis of the team over the years. Make me feel better about this pick, please!

To be honest, part of my glowing optimism two years ago (when I thought he was a slam-dunk top 10 pick) was based on the belief that he'd continue to develop. He didn't develop a whole lot over his last two years, so I've cooled on him- I definitely think his pre-draft grade was mostly justified. With that said, despite all the haters, Tebow was still grading out as a 2nd rounder. It's not like Denver took a 7th rounder at the end of the 1st or anything. A lot of people are very very convinced that Tebow will crash and burn, but a lot of people were also willing to bet on him in the second.Tebow definitely does have a lot of problems. He's never had to do much in the way of making reads. He's never taken meaningful snaps from under center. His footwork is a mess. His delivery was a mess. For a guy as strong as he is, he doesn't have a great grasp on how to convert that strength into power on his throws. He's used to operating with a talent advantage. Despite all of this, I'll say what I've always said- I'm well aware of all of the negatives, but I will never bet against Tim Tebow. He's so unbelievably driven, and he's one of the most coachable kids on the planet (just witness what he did with his delivery in just a month). Some guys are so driven to succeed that all of the negatives in the world don't matter (see: Rice, Jerry). I really think that in a year and a half to two years of sitting on the bench and just absorbing everything, Tebow will be as ready for the pro game as anyone. I also think all of the concerns over the offense he played in are just ludicrous. Everyone says that QBs in an offense as gimmicky as Florida's can't succeed in an "NFL-style offense"... but they ignore the fact that the most prolific offense in history (the 2007 New England Patriots) stole probably half of their passing offense directly from Urban Meyer's playbook. Seriously. Belichick went to Meyer for pointers before the season, and the Pats wound up installing and building upon the bulk of Meyer's spread passing game. The offensive coordinator of that team is now the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I'd imagine he's looking to do something similar in Denver to what he did in New England. I'm thinking Tebow's probably the best rookie QB to run that offense, outside of Bradford.

That's why I don't have a problem with the Tebow pick. Maybe they gave up to much to move up to get him, but that was a luxury they could afford because of their moves down. Maybe Tebow would have still been around in the second, maybe he wouldn't have. Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

Didn't you know all of this when you were posting about Tebow back in 07 when this thread was started?

 

[SSOG]

Didn't you know all of this when you were posting about Tebow back in 07 when this thread was started?

Sure. If you read through the thread, I said multiple times that Tebow had 2 years to develop as a player. He didn't wind up developing as much in those two years as I would have hoped.

 

[theglorydays]

Didn't you know all of this when you were posting about Tebow back in 07 when this thread was started?

Sure. If you read through the thread, I said multiple times that Tebow had 2 years to develop as a player. He didn't wind up developing as much in those two years as I would have hoped.

He played exclusively out of the shotgun so his footwork was obviously going to need work. How was his footwork going to get any better while at Florida?Meyer's spread system was a hindrance to his development. As you stated, he really didn't have to make any reads so i'm not sure how he could have gotten better in this area either.

 

[jurb26]

Didn't you know all of this when you were posting about Tebow back in 07 when this thread was started?

Sure. If you read through the thread, I said multiple times that Tebow had 2 years to develop as a player. He didn't wind up developing as much in those two years as I would have hoped.

He played exclusively out of the shotgun so his footwork was obviously going to need work. How was his footwork going to get any better while at Florida?Meyer's spread system was a hindrance to his development. As you stated, he really didn't have to make any reads so i'm not sure how he could have gotten better in this area either.

I'm not trying to go back and read through all of this again but I think many people (right, wrong or indifferent) thought that Florida would use him more in that fashion in order to help him develop. It may have even been talked about and rumored about in the media and on ESPN. I can recall talk about them doing this in spring practices or something. In the end though, I tiger will not change it's strips and Florida was winning so why take the chance.

 

[theglorydays]

Didn't you know all of this when you were posting about Tebow back in 07 when this thread was started?

Sure. If you read through the thread, I said multiple times that Tebow had 2 years to develop as a player. He didn't wind up developing as much in those two years as I would have hoped.

He played exclusively out of the shotgun so his footwork was obviously going to need work. How was his footwork going to get any better while at Florida?Meyer's spread system was a hindrance to his development. As you stated, he really didn't have to make any reads so i'm not sure how he could have gotten better in this area either.

I'm not trying to go back and read through all of this again but I think many people (right, wrong or indifferent) thought that Florida would use him more in that fashion in order to help him develop. It may have even been talked about and rumored about in the media and on ESPN. I can recall talk about them doing this in spring practices or something. In the end though, I tiger will not change it's strips and Florida was winning so why take the chance.

Yea i remember before his senior season they were talking about putting him under center some and it never happened.These spread quarterbacks aren't really given an opportunity to ever showcase if there game will translate to the next level.

 

[ChargersOH]

Tebow definitely does have a lot of problems. He's never had to do much in the way of making reads. He's never taken meaningful snaps from under center. His footwork is a mess. His delivery was a mess. For a guy as strong as he is, he doesn't have a great grasp on how to convert that strength into power on his throws. He's used to operating with a talent advantage. Despite all of this, I'll say what I've always said- I'm well aware of all of the negatives, but I will never bet against Tim Tebow. He's so unbelievably driven, and he's one of the most coachable kids on the planet (just witness what he did with his delivery in just a month). Some guys are so driven to succeed that all of the negatives in the world don't matter (see: Rice, Jerry). I really think that in a year and a half to two years of sitting on the bench and just absorbing everything, Tebow will be as ready for the pro game as anyone. I also think all of the concerns over the offense he played in are just ludicrous. Everyone says that QBs in an offense as gimmicky as Florida's can't succeed in an "NFL-style offense"... but they ignore the fact that the most prolific offense in history (the 2007 New England Patriots) stole probably half of their passing offense directly from Urban Meyer's playbook. Seriously. Belichick went to Meyer for pointers before the season, and the Pats wound up installing and building upon the bulk of Meyer's spread passing game. The offensive coordinator of that team is now the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I'd imagine he's looking to do something similar in Denver to what he did in New England. I'm thinking Tebow's probably the best rookie QB to run that offense, outside of Bradford.

That's why I don't have a problem with the Tebow pick. Maybe they gave up to much to move up to get him, but that was a luxury they could afford because of their moves down. Maybe Tebow would have still been around in the second, maybe he wouldn't have. Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

Good insight and reasoning behind Mcdaniels pick there.

I wish we could keep all the TT discussions here instead of having half the threads here devolve into hater vs homer discussions.

Best Tebow analogy I've read on these boards. Someone should sticky it so we can just argue about these points, and quit reinventing the wheel in every Denver and QB thread on these boards.

 

[Homer]

SSOG has been the biggest and most vocal Tebow fan for as long as I can remember. If nothing else, I'm glad he went to SSOG's team so he can continue to root for the guy.

I'm glad he went to my team so that I can root for SOMETHING while McDaniels continues to burn the franchise to the ground. Seriously, for the last year it's been getting harder and harder to muster any sort of excitement about the Denver Broncos. Now, no matter how bad they get, at least I have something to be excited and optimistic about.

SSOG, as a fellow Broncos fan, I've enjoyed your analysis of the team over the years. Make me feel better about this pick, please!

To be honest, part of my glowing optimism two years ago (when I thought he was a slam-dunk top 10 pick) was based on the belief that he'd continue to develop. He didn't develop a whole lot over his last two years, so I've cooled on him- I definitely think his pre-draft grade was mostly justified. With that said, despite all the haters, Tebow was still grading out as a 2nd rounder. It's not like Denver took a 7th rounder at the end of the 1st or anything. A lot of people are very very convinced that Tebow will crash and burn, but a lot of people were also willing to bet on him in the second.Tebow definitely does have a lot of problems. He's never had to do much in the way of making reads. He's never taken meaningful snaps from under center. His footwork is a mess. His delivery was a mess. For a guy as strong as he is, he doesn't have a great grasp on how to convert that strength into power on his throws. He's used to operating with a talent advantage. Despite all of this, I'll say what I've always said- I'm well aware of all of the negatives, but I will never bet against Tim Tebow. He's so unbelievably driven, and he's one of the most coachable kids on the planet (just witness what he did with his delivery in just a month). Some guys are so driven to succeed that all of the negatives in the world don't matter (see: Rice, Jerry). I really think that in a year and a half to two years of sitting on the bench and just absorbing everything, Tebow will be as ready for the pro game as anyone. I also think all of the concerns over the offense he played in are just ludicrous. Everyone says that QBs in an offense as gimmicky as Florida's can't succeed in an "NFL-style offense"... but they ignore the fact that the most prolific offense in history (the 2007 New England Patriots) stole probably half of their passing offense directly from Urban Meyer's playbook. Seriously. Belichick went to Meyer for pointers before the season, and the Pats wound up installing and building upon the bulk of Meyer's spread passing game. The offensive coordinator of that team is now the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I'd imagine he's looking to do something similar in Denver to what he did in New England. I'm thinking Tebow's probably the best rookie QB to run that offense, outside of Bradford.

That's why I don't have a problem with the Tebow pick. Maybe they gave up to much to move up to get him, but that was a luxury they could afford because of their moves down. Maybe Tebow would have still been around in the second, maybe he wouldn't have. Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

I completely agree with everything SSOG's written here (which is probably THE thing that will convince SSOG to doubt himself!). Tebow's a freakishly athletic QB, and I'd argue that he's one of the 5 greatest college players of all time. An NFL pundit had a great comment in the months leading up to the draft had a great comment: "Tebow's a risky prospect in a standard vanilla NFL offense (a la Vince Young). But SOMEBODY is going to figure out that, gee, if we tailor an offense to his STRENGTHS, they will find out they really HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL." IMO, SSOG's onto something when he talks about the 2007 Patriots connection, and it's a very exciting possibility. I'm sure they implement designated packages for him this year and the hype will be IMMENSE when he inevitably succeeds.

 

[SSOG]

Didn't you know all of this when you were posting about Tebow back in 07 when this thread was started?

Sure. If you read through the thread, I said multiple times that Tebow had 2 years to develop as a player. He didn't wind up developing as much in those two years as I would have hoped.

He played exclusively out of the shotgun so his footwork was obviously going to need work. How was his footwork going to get any better while at Florida?Meyer's spread system was a hindrance to his development. As you stated, he really didn't have to make any reads so i'm not sure how he could have gotten better in this area either.

That doesn't mean there wasn't still progress he could have made. I expected mechanical improvements in his throwing motion, maybe a general tightening of his spiral. I expected Florida to incorporate some formations into their playbook where Tebow lined up under center. I expected Tebow to do a little better without Percy Harvin. I understand why Meyer and Tebow didn't mess with what was working, and respect the fact that both of them were focused on winning today more than developing for the future, but that doesn't mean that there weren't improvements that Tebow COULD HAVE made in the context of Florida's offense that, for one reason or another, he didn't make. That's the difference between the top-10 pick I thought he'd be two years ago and the late first rounder that he is today.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Edit: Also, no NFL team would ever do it unless they had a stud QB backing up the starter, but any offense featuring a mobile QB and willing to let him operate as both an RB *and* a QB has a huge personnel advantage. It's basically like playing with an extra player on the field- normally on running plays, you have the ballcarrier and 9 potential blockers. If the QB is the ballcarrier, that number rises to 10 potential blockers. That's one of the big reasons why Tebow is so hard to stop, because it's as if Florida is playing with 12 men on the field.

Almost exactly a year after this post, on Sept 21, 2008, the Miami Dolphins used that strategy successfully against the Patriots.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

I think this is pretty much it.people knock tebow for being a shotgun qb, but don't you expect mcdaniels to have him running a spread shotgun attack?take a look at the rush yardage cassel was able to pile up in '08 and tell me whether tebow is a better runner than cassel.he's mobile and accurate, both of which work out great in the mcd offense.my vague recollection is that mcdaniels was a very successful ultra competitive qb in high school, and I think of all teams in the nfl this is the best spot tebow could have landed in.I'm not saying he's going to start week one, but I expect he'll be seeing the field this year.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Despite all of this, I'll say what I've always said- I'm well aware of all of the negatives, but I will never bet against Tim Tebow. He's so unbelievably driven, and he's one of the most coachable kids on the planet (just witness what he did with his delivery in just a month). Some guys are so driven to succeed that all of the negatives in the world don't matter (see: Rice, Jerry). I really think that in a year and a half to two years of sitting on the bench and just absorbing everything, Tebow will be as ready for the pro game as anyone. I also think all of the concerns over the offense he played in are just ludicrous. Everyone says that QBs in an offense as gimmicky as Florida's can't succeed in an "NFL-style offense"... but they ignore the fact that the most prolific offense in history (the 2007 New England Patriots) stole probably half of their passing offense directly from Urban Meyer's playbook. Seriously. Belichick went to Meyer for pointers before the season, and the Pats wound up installing and building upon the bulk of Meyer's spread passing game. The offensive coordinator of that team is now the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I'd imagine he's looking to do something similar in Denver to what he did in New England. I'm thinking Tebow's probably the best rookie QB to run that offense, outside of Bradford.

That's why I don't have a problem with the Tebow pick. Maybe they gave up to much to move up to get him, but that was a luxury they could afford because of their moves down. Maybe Tebow would have still been around in the second, maybe he wouldn't have. Either way, Tim Tebow is probably the perfect QB to run the offense that McDaniels wants to run, because Tebow's already been running it for the last 3 seasons.

 

[SSOG]

Edit: Also, no NFL team would ever do it unless they had a stud QB backing up the starter, but any offense featuring a mobile QB and willing to let him operate as both an RB *and* a QB has a huge personnel advantage. It's basically like playing with an extra player on the field- normally on running plays, you have the ballcarrier and 9 potential blockers. If the QB is the ballcarrier, that number rises to 10 potential blockers. That's one of the big reasons why Tebow is so hard to stop, because it's as if Florida is playing with 12 men on the field.

Almost exactly a year after this post, on Sept 21, 2008, the Miami Dolphins used that strategy successfully against the Patriots.

Wow, I didn't even remember that this thread predated the Wildcat Phenomenon. I guess that makes sense, because Tebow's sophomore year was when Arkansas was first rolling out the Wildcat (I remember I made a lot of comparisons between Tebow and McFadden because both were guys who were built like RBs but still capable throwers- obviously Tebow fell more on the QB end of the spectrum, and McFadden fell more on the RB end, but they were definitely on the same spectrum).

 

[Homer]

BUMP

 

[FarEastKilla]

Edit: Also, no NFL team would ever do it unless they had a stud QB backing up the starter, but any offense featuring a mobile QB and willing to let him operate as both an RB *and* a QB has a huge personnel advantage. It's basically like playing with an extra player on the field- normally on running plays, you have the ballcarrier and 9 potential blockers. If the QB is the ballcarrier, that number rises to 10 potential blockers. That's one of the big reasons why Tebow is so hard to stop, because it's as if Florida is playing with 12 men on the field.

Almost exactly a year after this post, on Sept 21, 2008, the Miami Dolphins used that strategy successfully against the Patriots.

Wow, I didn't even remember that this thread predated the Wildcat Phenomenon. I guess that makes sense, because Tebow's sophomore year was when Arkansas was first rolling out the Wildcat (I remember I made a lot of comparisons between Tebow and McFadden because both were guys who were built like RBs but still capable throwers- obviously Tebow fell more on the QB end of the spectrum, and McFadden fell more on the RB end, but they were definitely on the same spectrum).

Wow, IMO some fantasy football participants don't even watch football.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

BUMP

I think he may start getting looks if things go bad this week. Why do none of the coaches like this guy?

 

[RavenLunatic]

I grabbed him last week and then took Orton this week after someone gave up on the situation. Just need them to get me through Rodgers week 8 bye. Only way it goes bad is if Tebow takes over in the middle of their week 8 game.

Hoping for trade bait.

 

[duaneok66]

BUMP

I think he may start getting looks if things go bad this week. Why do none of the coaches like this guy?

maybe because they see him practice evey day . . .

 

[Homer]

BUMP

I think he may start getting looks if things go bad this week. Why do none of the coaches like this guy?

maybe because they see him practice evey day . . .

Their track record at judging talent at the QB position is a lot iffier than Tebow.

 

[Jersey35]

Edit: Also, no NFL team would ever do it unless they had a stud QB backing up the starter, but any offense featuring a mobile QB and willing to let him operate as both an RB *and* a QB has a huge personnel advantage. It's basically like playing with an extra player on the field- normally on running plays, you have the ballcarrier and 9 potential blockers. If the QB is the ballcarrier, that number rises to 10 potential blockers. That's one of the big reasons why Tebow is so hard to stop, because it's as if Florida is playing with 12 men on the field.

Almost exactly a year after this post, on Sept 21, 2008, the Miami Dolphins used that strategy successfully against the Patriots.

Wow, I didn't even remember that this thread predated the Wildcat Phenomenon. I guess that makes sense, because Tebow's sophomore year was when Arkansas was first rolling out the Wildcat (I remember I made a lot of comparisons between Tebow and McFadden because both were guys who were built like RBs but still capable throwers- obviously Tebow fell more on the QB end of the spectrum, and McFadden fell more on the RB end, but they were definitely on the same spectrum).

Wow, IMO some fantasy football participants don't even watch football.

Wow. Congratulations on one year on this board. You're about to get eaten alive.

 

[Jersey35]

Edit: Also, no NFL team would ever do it unless they had a stud QB backing up the starter, but any offense featuring a mobile QB and willing to let him operate as both an RB *and* a QB has a huge personnel advantage. It's basically like playing with an extra player on the field- normally on running plays, you have the ballcarrier and 9 potential blockers. If the QB is the ballcarrier, that number rises to 10 potential blockers. That's one of the big reasons why Tebow is so hard to stop, because it's as if Florida is playing with 12 men on the field.

Almost exactly a year after this post, on Sept 21, 2008, the Miami Dolphins used that strategy successfully against the Patriots.

Wow, I didn't even remember that this thread predated the Wildcat Phenomenon. I guess that makes sense, because Tebow's sophomore year was when Arkansas was first rolling out the Wildcat (I remember I made a lot of comparisons between Tebow and McFadden because both were guys who were built like RBs but still capable throwers- obviously Tebow fell more on the QB end of the spectrum, and McFadden fell more on the RB end, but they were definitely on the same spectrum).

Wow, IMO some fantasy football participants don't even watch football.

Wow. Congratulations on one year on this board. You're about to get eaten alive.

 

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Un. stop. pable.