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After reading this I realize that not only has Rogers blown a great opportunity he clearly has not learned anything from his past. Quotes like this will leave him umemployed.

Lions | C. Rogers attitude still a question markFri, 14 Apr 2006 19:53:07 -0700Drew Sharp, of the Detroit Free Press, believes Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has done nothing to suggest he wants to excel as a football player. After being suspended for four games during the 2005 season and poor work habits afterward, Rogers was asked if he had learned anything. He responded by saying he just wants to learn the team's new offensive system and play football. Rogers added, "It's not so much about trust as it is about believing. You've got to believe in me like I believe in you. It's more like that." He has met briefly with head coach Rod Marinelli and said, "We talked a little bit. I don't know about clean slates, man. All I can do is work and let them choose what they want to do."
 
After reading this I realize that not only has Rogers blown a great opportunity he clearly has not learned anything from his past. Quotes like this will leave him umemployed.

Lions | C. Rogers attitude still a question mark

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:53:07 -0700

Drew Sharp, of the Detroit Free Press, believes Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has done nothing to suggest he wants to excel as a football player. After being suspended for four games during the 2005 season and poor work habits afterward, Rogers was asked if he had learned anything. He responded by saying he just wants to learn the team's new offensive system and play football. Rogers added, "It's not so much about trust as it is about believing. You've got to believe in me like I believe in you. It's more like that." He has met briefly with head coach Rod Marinelli and said, "We talked a little bit. I don't know about clean slates, man. All I can do is work and let them choose what they want to do."
I'm reading this, and not sure of your point. What do you want him to say?
 
Drew Sharp, of the Detroit Free Press, believes Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has done nothing to suggest he wants to excel as a football player.
Sharp takes a negative slant on almost everything. He's probably right, in this case, but there's not really much news here. Just a columnist giving his opinion.
 
He basicly said nothing. At least not anything that makes any sense.

Its not so much about trust as it is about believing in him.

???????? Isnt he saying you should trust him by saying you should believe in him????????????????

All this proves is that he isnt bright. Most WRs arent.

 
Drew Sharp, of the Detroit Free Press, believes Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has done nothing to suggest he wants to excel as a football player.
Sharp takes a negative slant on almost everything. He's probably right, in this case, but there's not really much news here. Just a columnist giving his opinion.
That's the way I saw it, too.
 
i agree with others that noted that there wasn't really anything in rogers' statement, AS STATED, that would seem negative (even if you read between the lines?)... the negative was in the reporters twist or slant, which may well have been biased...

that said, it did sound like he had work ethic issues last season...

there must be bad blood between him & the team if it is true that they are going after something like $10 mill in bonus money because he didn't fulfill the anti-drug part of his contract...

not too much of a stretch to think that he is malingering so they will cut him...

if it goes down like that, it does lead to the question would he work hard for new team...

a prospective future team might be wise to put incentive clauses & ACHIEVABLE bonuses wherein the better he plays... the more he gets paid... i'm inclined to think it might be tough for him to secure huge bonus with a lot of up front guaranteed money (especially with his injury history being double red flag)...

but he was at one time viewed as an elite talent... maybe team like OAK & TB that has taken on bad boys will surprise... it only takes one team (OAK seems pretty set at WR)... WAS & DEN seem to like to collect former first rounders, too.

 
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After reading this I realize that not only has Rogers blown a great opportunity he clearly has not learned anything from his past. Quotes like this will leave him umemployed.

Lions | C. Rogers attitude still a question mark

Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:53:07 -0700

Drew Sharp, of the Detroit Free Press, believes Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has done nothing to suggest he wants to excel as a football player. After being suspended for four games during the 2005 season and poor work habits afterward, Rogers was asked if he had learned anything. He responded by saying he just wants to learn the team's new offensive system and play football. Rogers added, "It's not so much about trust as it is about believing. You've got to believe in me like I believe in you. It's more like that." He has met briefly with head coach Rod Marinelli and said, "We talked a little bit. I don't know about clean slates, man. All I can do is work and let them choose what they want to do."
i'll take marinelli's word on this subject before sharp's. actually, i'd take the word of about a million other people before sharp. he is incapable of saying anything remotely positive about the Lions.....people talk about how hard it is to get away from the culture of losing, well Sharp is exhibit A in that department - he does more to perpetuate it in the Detroit media than anything they do on the field. all lthe reports from mini-camp have been positive....we'll have to wait and see. furthermore, for the eleventy billionth time, the Lions are not going to cut a former #1 pick that is only making $700k this year.

 
Time for Bust Rogers to be cut
from the lions perspective, the time to cut rogers would be the last cut of the exhibition season. maybe he turns it around (or not...lol), maybe a trade could be completed (the whole something is better than nothing deal) and at least if the lions outright cut him...then he would be less likely to help another franchise this season
 
Time for Bust Rogers to be cut
from the lions perspective, the time to cut rogers would be the last cut of the exhibition season. maybe he turns it around (or not...lol), maybe a trade could be completed (the whole something is better than nothing deal) and at least if the lions outright cut him...then he would be less likely to help another franchise this season
I wouldn't want a repuation of doing that to players.
 
The sad thing is how insanely gifted he is, and he will probably never scratch the surface of his potential.

Drugs are bad, mmmkay.

 
After reading some respones I would have to agree with the feeling that the reporter clearly has issues with Rogers and it shows in his point of view.

As for Rogers, I would think that coming from the situation he's been in and with a new coach to impress and start over with that he would be doing everything he could to win them over. Besides, trying to get favorable press would help him too.

It doesn't seem as though he's taking advantage of the opportunites he has anew. Rather it seems he's going forward as though it's business as usual. Not exactly the way to improve your image. Because of that I feel like he hasn't learned anything.

 
Time for Bust Rogers to be cut
from the lions perspective, the time to cut rogers would be the last cut of the exhibition season. maybe he turns it around (or not...lol), maybe a trade could be completed (the whole something is better than nothing deal) and at least if the lions outright cut him...then he would be less likely to help another franchise this season
I wouldn't want a repuation of doing that to players.
the lions would be giving rogers yet another chance to get the job done. :confused: BUT, if he didn't they certainly wouldn't be smart to let him go until final cuts. players follow the money anyway, and if millen doesn't get the job done this year or next there will be a new "organization" in detroit anyway

 
Time for Bust Rogers to be cut
from the lions perspective, the time to cut rogers would be the last cut of the exhibition season. maybe he turns it around (or not...lol), maybe a trade could be completed (the whole something is better than nothing deal) and at least if the lions outright cut him...then he would be less likely to help another franchise this season
I wouldn't want a repuation of doing that to players.
the lions would be giving rogers yet another chance to get the job done. :confused: BUT, if he didn't they certainly wouldn't be smart to let him go until final cuts. players follow the money anyway, and if millen doesn't get the job done this year or next there will be a new "organization" in detroit anyway
I misread part of the post. The "less likely to help another franchise" attitude still isn't looked upon real favorably. I think nearly every person in sports at a high level gives the "it didn't work out here but best of luck" line and most genuinely mean it. You don't hold onto guys so they can't go have success elsewhere.
 
like i already said,

i wouldn't be surprised if he is sulking about the disputed bonus money (i think this is on lions, too... the fact that they would pursue it knowing it might have predictable effect could be interpreted as suggesting they have given up on him)...

but in this context, i would be less worried about the subtext of an interview, than if i hear multiple news reports & eye witness accounts at practice & in training camp saying he is dogging it.

 
After reading some respones I would have to agree with the feeling that the reporter clearly has issues with Rogers and it shows in his point of view.

As for Rogers, I would think that coming from the situation he's been in and with a new coach to impress and start over with that he would be doing everything he could to win them over. Besides, trying to get favorable press would help him too.

It doesn't seem as though he's taking advantage of the opportunites he has anew. Rather it seems he's going forward as though it's business as usual. Not exactly the way to improve your image. Because of that I feel like he hasn't learned anything.
Drew Sharp has issues with everyone.Worst writter in Detroit, ever.

Can't believe he gets on the radio a ton too.

But unless Rogers, shows up, works hard and get the new offense. He's worthless

 
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He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player. Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.

 
Drew Sharp, of the Detroit Free Press, believes Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers has done nothing to suggest he wants to excel as a football player.
Sharp takes a negative slant on almost everything. He's probably right, in this case, but there's not really much news here. Just a columnist giving his opinion.
That's the way I saw it, too.
:yes:
 
Drugs are the result of his atitude and personality. Not the other way around. He was a star at MSU, and a star his first few games in Detroit. I am not of the "know" but I imagine he was using at that time too.

He is talented, and truthfully you cannot ask him to say anything more than what he has. Unfortunately I feel until the 10Million thing is settled, that will be his focus. Not the ball, not the field.

Those days may be over here in Detroit regardless of the outcome. This organization has a way of beating everyone down.

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He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player. Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.
Let's see, he played on the same college team as Jeff Smoker who had a pretty serious weed and cocaine habit and Rogers failed a drug test prior to the draft. The warning signs were there but people chose to ignore them because of his talent.
 
He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player.  Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.
Let's see, he played on the same college team as Jeff Smoker who had a pretty serious weed and cocaine habit and Rogers failed a drug test prior to the draft. The warning signs were there but people chose to ignore them because of his talent.
I think you make a good point. This seems to happen alot doesn't it? People tend to overlook the red flags because of the talent.
 
He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player.  Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.
Let's see, he played on the same college team as Jeff Smoker who had a pretty serious weed and cocaine habit and Rogers failed a drug test prior to the draft. The warning signs were there but people chose to ignore them because of his talent.
Oh, I hadn't known that. I'm not sure WHY I hadn't heard that.
 
Drugs are the result of his atitude and personality.
Not always.I've known a few guys in my time that have succumbed to drug use...nice guys with good work ethic.

The sickness can be much more complex than what you describe.

 
The actual "news" on Rogers this past week was that in worked hard all week at mini-camp and "turned heads"--and for positive reasons.

There is no data or news in Drew Sharp's column. Nada. He's simply saying "Rogers better show up this year or he's gone."

Not sure why someone would post a columnist's unsubstantiated ramblings as hard news. But that's how gullible we've become concerning the media.

 
The actual "news" on Rogers this past week was that in worked hard all week at mini-camp and "turned heads"--and for positive reasons.

There is no data or news in Drew Sharp's column. Nada. He's simply saying "Rogers better show up this year or he's gone."

Not sure why someone would post a columnist's unsubstantiated ramblings as hard news. But that's how gullible we've become concerning the media.
:goodposting:
 
The actual "news" on Rogers this past week was that in worked hard all week at mini-camp and "turned heads"--and for positive reasons.

There is no data or news in Drew Sharp's column. Nada. He's simply saying "Rogers better show up this year or he's gone."

Not sure why someone would post a columnist's unsubstantiated ramblings as hard news. But that's how gullible we've become concerning the media.
You didn't see the comments Rogers made? Thats what my post was about. I think under the circumstances a little more is expected of Rogers. He's not exactly the early first round pick he was a few years after dogging his career so far. But maybe you think he's doing good. I don't.
 
i agree with others that noted that there wasn't really anything in rogers' statement, AS STATED, that would seem negative (even if you read between the lines?)... the negative was in the reporters twist or slant, which may well have been biased...

that said, it did sound like he had work ethic issues last season...

there must be bad blood between him & the team if it is true that they are going after something like $10 mill in bonus money because he didn't fulfill the anti-drug part of his contract...

not too much of a stretch to think that he is malingering so they will cut him...

if it goes down like that, it does lead to the question would he work hard for new team...

a prospective future team might be wise to put incentive clauses & ACHIEVABLE bonuses wherein the better he plays... the more he gets paid... i'm inclined to think it might be tough for him to secure huge bonus with a lot of up front guaranteed money (especially with his injury history being double red flag)...

but he was at one time viewed as an elite talent... maybe team like OAK & TB that has taken on bad boys will surprise... it only takes one team (OAK seems pretty set at WR)... WAS & DEN seem to like to collect former first rounders, too.
What makes you think that the Lions and Rogers will part ways? I saw this the other day and I believe I posted it on this site.After the Lions final practice late Thursday morning, head coach Rod Marinelli was once again asked about fourth-year wide receiver Charles Rogers and his progress. Marinelli was happy with the work he got out of Rogers, complimenting him on his willingness to go hard.

“[i have seen] Hard work – coming out and doing everything we’re asking him to do,” said Marinelli. “I mean [he’s] working hard and he’s got talent. And the offense, the system, is very demanding. And the coaches over there are very demanding. It’s precision – the willingness and learning it and doing it over and over.”

Marinelli also made it clear that he is more worried about the present time than the past. Despite the fact that Rogers had a somewhat bumpy year last season, Marinelli wants to talk about the here and now and what he is willing to do today.

“I don’t talk about so much last year, I just talk about our expectations now,” Marinelli said. “I think right now, we’re here and we want to go there. So here’s where we are starting and here’s the expectations I have for us, and here’s how I believe we can get there – laying out a road map. Now we just have to follow the map. The maps aren’t always easy to follow; there are some hills and bumps and creeks in there. We just have to level our way through it.”

Quarterback Jon Kitna also talked about Rogers after the team’s final mini-camp practice on Thursday.

“Charles is going to be just fine for us,” he said. “He’s got the things that not everybody has: size, speed, long arms. He’s going to be fine. Like I said, we’re all just trying to work into this thing together. The receiving group as a whole is going to be very dynamic.

Source:

http://www.detroitlions.com/document_displ...ument_id=444421

 
He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player. Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.
Let's see, he played on the same college team as Jeff Smoker who had a pretty serious weed and cocaine habit and Rogers failed a drug test prior to the draft. The warning signs were there but people chose to ignore them because of his talent.
Oh, I hadn't known that. I'm not sure WHY I hadn't heard that.
he didn't test positive for anything, but his urine was deemed too "clear" - i.e. he drank a ton of water or whatever. but he never did test positive for pot or anything else prior to the draft.
 
The guy is just a spoiled punk with no work ethic. It is sad to because he has a ton of talent. Maybe the new coaches can get this guy on track. A change of scenary may be his best bet though. It would be hard to let go of an investment like this that has so much up side. Imagine if he leaves and finally gets his act together....

 
He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player. Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.
I remember getting slammed for questioning his character when Rogers was drafted. :mellow:
 
They need to get Ray Lewis in there to motivate him...

Remember those pre-draft commercials where Lewis made Rogers sing about how many TD's he scored in college while throwing footballs at him?

Heh.

 
i'll take marinelli's word on this subject before sharp's. actually, i'd take the word of about a million other people before sharp. he is incapable of saying anything remotely positive about the Lions.....people talk about how hard it is to get away from the culture of losing, well Sharp is exhibit A in that department - he does more to perpetuate it in the Detroit media than anything they do on the field.

all lthe reports from mini-camp have been positive....we'll have to wait and see. furthermore, for the eleventy billionth time, the Lions are not going to cut a former #1 pick that is only making $700k this year.
In all fairness, any reporter that has been saying anything positive about the Lions over the last devcade or so is probably a lousy reporter and a blatant homer. In case people haven't noticed, nothing good has come from the Lions in a long long time. I'll submit their 1 playoff win since superbowl 1 as evidence to support my claim.It is not a reporter's job to change the culture of the team.

 
i'll take marinelli's word on this subject before sharp's. actually, i'd take the word of about a million other people before sharp. he is incapable of saying anything remotely positive about the Lions.....people talk about how hard it is to get away from the culture of losing, well Sharp is exhibit A in that department - he does more to perpetuate it in the Detroit media than anything they do on the field.

all lthe reports from mini-camp have been positive....we'll have to wait and see. furthermore, for the eleventy billionth time, the Lions are not going to cut a former #1 pick that is only making $700k this year.
In all fairness, any reporter that has been saying anything positive about the Lions over the last devcade or so is probably a lousy reporter and a blatant homer. In case people haven't noticed, nothing good has come from the Lions in a long long time. I'll submit their 1 playoff win since superbowl 1 as evidence to support my claim.It is not a reporter's job to change the culture of the team.
I never said it was....but Sharp is a giant friggin hypocrite. all he does is ##### about what losers they are, and practically gushes with I told you so's when things go south. If the Lions ever turn it around, I think his head will explode once he's forced to acknowledge it. The point is that you can't take anything he says seriously. He's a hack in the worst sense of the word...i've exchanged emails with him, and trust me, he gets his kicks off of badmouthing whoever he can to piss people off and then proclaims he's the man who tells it like it is and we can't handle it. he's a joke. period.

the fact is that there has been NO indication whatsoever that Rogers did anything but show up, practice hard, and showed improvement. Sharp fabricated this little nugget out of thin air because he needed something to complain about to prove how right he is. see the article posted a few posts above....marinelli et al and every other camp observer had nothing but good things to say about all the receivers. it's a good start. I'm not about to proclaim Rogers come back player of the year, but crap like the first post is unfair.

 
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As yet another example, the following headline is on Scout right now...but i don't have access to the pay site - maybe someone else can check it out for us and summarize who's saying what?

# Charles Rogers: Turning heads at mini-camp
 
As yet another example, the following headline is on Scout right now...but i don't have access to the pay site - maybe someone else can check it out for us and summarize who's saying what?

# Charles Rogers: Turning heads at mini-camp
A regurgitation of the Kitna "Charles is going to be just fine..." quote. Position coach Kippy Brown has no complaints.
 
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He's baffling, that's for sure.

I can remember that when he was coming out of college, he was touted as a "can't miss" sort of player. Everyone, and this is the part I cannot reconcile with the player we've seen in the NFL, said he was such a hard worker and had a great attitude and was so mature.

I seriously figure one of two things is the case:

1. We were misled as to how he was, as a person, prior to the NFL.

2. Drugs have taken charge of his life.
Let's see, he played on the same college team as Jeff Smoker who had a pretty serious weed and cocaine habit and Rogers failed a drug test prior to the draft. The warning signs were there but people chose to ignore them because of his talent.
Oh, I hadn't known that. I'm not sure WHY I hadn't heard that.
he didn't test positive for anything, but his urine was deemed too "clear" - i.e. he drank a ton of water or whatever. but he never did test positive for pot or anything else prior to the draft.
That's why diluted urine is considered a positive test. There are maskings agents besides water used to dilute urine.http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/04-14-2003-news.htm

http://espn.go.com/chrismortensen/s/2003/0414/1539039.html

http://www.statenews.com/op_article.phtml?pk=17178

Adulteration of urine samples with such substances as lemon juice, vinegar, chlorine bleach, and NaCl has been used to successfully interfere with detection of cannabinoids. Also, marked overhydration of the subject (by quaffing large volumes of water) may so dilute the urine that the concentration of the telltale metabolite falls below the detection threshold of the screen.
 
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i'll take marinelli's word on this subject before sharp's.  actually, i'd take the word of about a million other people before sharp.  he is incapable of saying anything remotely positive about the Lions.....people talk about how hard it is to get away from the culture of losing, well Sharp is exhibit A in that department - he does more to perpetuate it in the Detroit media than anything they do on the field. 

all lthe reports from mini-camp have been positive....we'll have to wait and see.  furthermore, for the eleventy billionth time, the Lions are not going to cut a former #1 pick that is only making $700k this year.
In all fairness, any reporter that has been saying anything positive about the Lions over the last devcade or so is probably a lousy reporter and a blatant homer. In case people haven't noticed, nothing good has come from the Lions in a long long time. I'll submit their 1 playoff win since superbowl 1 as evidence to support my claim.It is not a reporter's job to change the culture of the team.
I never said it was....but Sharp is a giant friggin hypocrite. all he does is ##### about what losers they are, and practically gushes with I told you so's when things go south. If the Lions ever turn it around, I think his head will explode once he's forced to acknowledge it. The point is that you can't take anything he says seriously. He's a hack in the worst sense of the word...i've exchanged emails with him, and trust me, he gets his kicks off of badmouthing whoever he can to piss people off and then proclaims he's the man who tells it like it is and we can't handle it. he's a joke. period.

the fact is that there has been NO indication whatsoever that Rogers did anything but show up, practice hard, and showed improvement. Sharp fabricated this little nugget out of thin air because he needed something to complain about to prove how right he is. see the article posted a few posts above....marinelli et al and every other camp observer had nothing but good things to say about all the receivers. it's a good start. I'm not about to proclaim Rogers come back player of the year, but crap like the first post is unfair.
I've herd many people including Tom Kowalski and Tony Ortiz both say that Rogers & Mike will have looked poor & lost at times, and the BMW actually started to pick things up better at the end of the mini camp. Rogers' head just isn't into it.
 
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i'll take marinelli's word on this subject before sharp's.  actually, i'd take the word of about a million other people before sharp.  he is incapable of saying anything remotely positive about the Lions.....people talk about how hard it is to get away from the culture of losing, well Sharp is exhibit A in that department - he does more to perpetuate it in the Detroit media than anything they do on the field. 

all lthe reports from mini-camp have been positive....we'll have to wait and see.  furthermore, for the eleventy billionth time, the Lions are not going to cut a former #1 pick that is only making $700k this year.
In all fairness, any reporter that has been saying anything positive about the Lions over the last devcade or so is probably a lousy reporter and a blatant homer. In case people haven't noticed, nothing good has come from the Lions in a long long time. I'll submit their 1 playoff win since superbowl 1 as evidence to support my claim.It is not a reporter's job to change the culture of the team.
I never said it was....but Sharp is a giant friggin hypocrite. all he does is ##### about what losers they are, and practically gushes with I told you so's when things go south. If the Lions ever turn it around, I think his head will explode once he's forced to acknowledge it. The point is that you can't take anything he says seriously. He's a hack in the worst sense of the word...i've exchanged emails with him, and trust me, he gets his kicks off of badmouthing whoever he can to piss people off and then proclaims he's the man who tells it like it is and we can't handle it. he's a joke. period.

the fact is that there has been NO indication whatsoever that Rogers did anything but show up, practice hard, and showed improvement. Sharp fabricated this little nugget out of thin air because he needed something to complain about to prove how right he is. see the article posted a few posts above....marinelli et al and every other camp observer had nothing but good things to say about all the receivers. it's a good start. I'm not about to proclaim Rogers come back player of the year, but crap like the first post is unfair.
I agree about Sharp. Tom "The Killer" Kowalski is a hack as well. That guy flip flops on just about every prediction he makes, even though he is a self-appointed Lions insider. Both of these guys have been very critical of Rogers but they'll hop right back on the bandwagon if he ends up having an impact.
 
The sad thing is how insanely gifted he is, and he will probably never scratch the surface of his potential.

Drugs are bad, mmmkay.
If drugs are that bad how come Ricky Williams when he played was always The BEST .The Lions simply did not do their homework , i am sure he had the same attitude in College but he was so gifted that he still could be better then most .

They did the same with Williams last season .

The lions are to blame not Rogers .

 

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