Time to sell Aaron Rodgers? (1 Viewer)

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Sound crazy?

1) His top 2 WRs are out or banged up. Nelson returns, but will he be limited?

2) Offensive line has been a mess, and now Bulaga is out for the year.

3) How many hits can Rodgers take? (league-leading 29 sacks already)

4) Very tough remaining schedule.

5) Newly engaged, so I would think there'd be some distractions.

If I had a decent backup, I'd consider trading him now more than at any other time in his career. Sell high.

Agree/disagree?

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Uh...no. Matchup proof.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

Sound crazy?

1) His top 2 WRs are out or banged up. Nelson returns, but will he be limited?

2) Offensive line has been a mess, and now Bulaga is out for the year.

3) How many hits can Rodgers take? (league-leading 29 sacks already)

4) Very tough remaining schedule.

5) Newly engaged, so I would think there'd be some distractions.

If I had a decent backup, I'd consider trading him now more than at any other time in his career. Sell high.

Agree/disagree?

 

[godgers12]

lol, cmon now.

 

[godgers12]

also, who exactly are we selling for?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Nelson is practiced yesterday and his health is fine, Randall Cobb and James Jones are productive, and Jennings is itching to get on the field. Hump Finley, just throw it to Crabtree.

Not really seeing the upside to trying to move the guy who got you this far. Ride him to the championship.

 

[Sinn Fein]

See if you can trade him for Cutler.

 

[Darryl Talley]

I feel like he will be outscored by my opponent in a potental Wk15 playoff matchup when he plays in Chicago.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I feel like he will be outscored by my opponent in a potental Wk15 playoff matchup when he plays in Chicago.

This seems like solid analysis. How did you come to this conclusion? Did you look at this career splits for 16 December Games and 9 games vs. Chicago and then discount the information as meaningless?

 

[aesclepius]

If you've got Arian Foster and A j Green it's probably time to dump them too.

 

[steveski]

If you've got Arian Foster and A j Green it's probably time to dump them too.

Might as well. There's nowhere to go except down, up, or stay exactly the same.

 

[godgers12]

And how about his FF SB matchup vs TEN , yea man thats horrible

 

[meyerj31]

Random fact: Rodgers has the same fantasy PPG through 10 weeks (~27 PPG) this year as Brees/Cam/Brady were at last year through 10 weeks. Just because Rodgers isn't at the insane 33PPG clip he was performing last year by this time is no reason to sell. Also, in the NFL, the QBs also make the receivers, much more than the other way around (see Brady's receivers during his Super Bowl runs, and Fitzs' production with Kolb). Fail thread.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

 

[Donsmith753]

He's cost me the playoffs the last 2 weeks. Too good to bench, keeps disappointing.

 

[Chazzhawk]

In redraft you missed your chance to sell him, in dynasty I think it is a great time to buy low. The Packers have one of the best front offices in the league you know they will get this line fixed in the draft or in free agency.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Nelson is practiced yesterday and his health is fine, Randall Cobb and James Jones are productive, and Jennings is itching to get on the field. Hump Finley, just throw it to Crabtree.Not really seeing the upside to trying to move the guy who got you this far. Ride him to the championship.

Nelson went out for the game in the first or second quarter

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Nelson is practiced yesterday and his health is fine, Randall Cobb and James Jones are productive, and Jennings is itching to get on the field. Hump Finley, just throw it to Crabtree.Not really seeing the upside to trying to move the guy who got you this far. Ride him to the championship.

Nelson went out for the game in the first or second quarter

Sorry, this was a bumped post (dated Nov 14) when folks basically wrote me off for suggesting it.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

In a 3yr keeper league and this is the last year I can roster him. (Based in Wisconsin)

Sold him & Malcolm Floyd for Megatron and Eli tonight at our deadline. Trade participant keepers count as an 8th rd pick.

Just throwing that out there.

 

[shadyridr]

This was a good call. Credit due

...so far

 

[eoMMan]

Definitely not playing like an elite 1st round pick, that's for sure.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Agreed, OP did make a good call. So far.

Over the last 6 weeks (5 games & the bye) he has about 85.5 points in our 4 point passing TD league, which is around QB15 PPG. 4 TDs versus 'zona - he was only 14/30 that day - with no 300 yard games. Has averaged around 229 yards passing per game during this stretch.

In redraft, owners are married to him, sink or swim. Coming playoff schedule:

[*]home versus Detroit SNF.

[*]@ Chicago in a critical divisional matchup. Didn't light them up this year (the defense won the turnover battle) but he's had good games against them in the past.

[*]home versus Tennessee.

Recent trend aside, I don't think he's going to hinder my team.

 

[lukinrats]

I have him in my keeper league, and pretty much the only thing that could derail my chances of winning the championship was an injury to Rodgers. This is almost as bad as an injury.

You can tell that the Pack is starting off on track, and then they get an injury very early in the game, every week. It just derails them. Rodgers played an awesome game vs the Vikings. He was his typical, very efficient self. He is still an elite QB. Here are the things that I see, which are keeping him from playing the way we are accustomed.

#1. That line obviously, but because of the line, they are having to force the running game in order to try and make teams respect it.

#2. They are having to win tough games, and when they get a little lead, they become very safe with the football

I hope that they can get through a game pretty soon without one of the skill players suffering an injury. The line actually played a little better this week vs the Vikings, but coverage is smothering those pass catchers. It is really just throwing him off. In the end, it is amazing that he was still able to complete 76% of his passes in the situation he was in.

The main difference I can see with the scoring for fantasy, showed up at the end of the game. They got into the Redzone with 4 minutes or so left, and were they the same team as last year, they would have made sure they scored a TD. Instead, they played it safe, and called a run on 3rd and long. Kicked the FG, and then gave the ball back to the Vikes. That is not the same Packers that created the fantasy monster that we have all come to know and love

 

[lukinrats]

Well, probably not a bad time to resurrect this thread

 

[Bronco Nation]

Well, probably not a bad time to resurrect this thread

Not a bad time at all. Costing me my playoff run early in one league. No doubt costing many others, too. Great call by the OP!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

personally I blame that putrid oline and injuries to his top2 WRs.

Still a top3 QB in most formats

 

[lukinrats]

I have made it into the finals with him as my QB, but I hesitate to keep rolling with him. The Packers seem to have become one of the run heaviest teams since the bye, and Rodgers is not being allowed to throw much.

If Jordy and/or Lang are able to play next week, then I might stick with him, but other than that, I might have to go elsewhere.

 

[thehornet]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

 

[thehornet]

Well, probably not a bad time to resurrect this thread

Not a bad time at all. Costing me my playoff run early in one league. No doubt costing many others, too. Great call by the OP!

Aaron Rodgers cost you your playoffs. Laughable. Seriously, try going at it with just about ANY other QB in the league. Trust me, you'd be saying the same thing almost every week.

 

[thehornet]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

 

[lukinrats]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

 

[lukinrats]

Here is a quote

Aaron Rodgers rushed for a touchdown to make his Sunday night look palatable, but he also failed to throw for a TD in a home game for the first time in 30 contests. A-Rod passed for a season-low 173 yards, his worst total in two years. And he's now failed to reach 16 fantasy points in four consecutive games (and five of his past six).

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

Really? You look at overall numbers on the season, completely disregard what this thread is talking about, then accuse us of living in a vacuum?Bottom line is that the writing was on the wall mid-Nov that Rodgers' solid pace was going to take a major hit, and I proved to be dead nuts right. He has been a mediocre fantasy QB over the last month, and I would guess that most folks who started him the last couple of weeks wish they had someone else at this point because they're playoff run is probably over.

 

[thehornet]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

 

[thehornet]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

Really? You look at overall numbers on the season, completely disregard what this thread is talking about, then accuse us of living in a vacuum?Bottom line is that the writing was on the wall mid-Nov that Rodgers' solid pace was going to take a major hit, and I proved to be dead nuts right. He has been a mediocre fantasy QB over the last month, and I would guess that most folks who started him the last couple of weeks wish they had someone else at this point because they're playoff run is probably over.

um, ok. go start some scrub over him and then start a thread next week about how you will never bench your studs again.

 

[lukinrats]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

Actually, Joe Flacco is on most wires, and depending on what size league your in...Freeman, Wilson, Kaepernick, Weeden. All of them have great matchups except for Flacco. At least Flacco will be given the opportunity to throw the ball more than 24 times. Jeez, 24 attempts is almost Tebow territory. Not Rodgers

 

[Chazzhawk]

I am buying in dynasty

 

[lukinrats]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

Really? You look at overall numbers on the season, completely disregard what this thread is talking about, then accuse us of living in a vacuum?Bottom line is that the writing was on the wall mid-Nov that Rodgers' solid pace was going to take a major hit, and I proved to be dead nuts right. He has been a mediocre fantasy QB over the last month, and I would guess that most folks who started him the last couple of weeks wish they had someone else at this point because they're playoff run is probably over.

um, ok. go start some scrub over him and then start a thread next week about how you will never bench your studs again.

I have been saying for weeks, this same sentence. "Who else am I going to start?""I have to start Rodgers because if I don't, then he will throw 4 TDs and 300 yds, then I will be sorry"

Over and over again, the same crap sentiment, and then the week rolls around and he struggles, and throws quick bubble screens on every play. When he does throw down field, Nothing.

 

[lukinrats]

I am buying in dynasty

Hell yea! In Dynasty, I am a taker. If we had all sold him 5 weeks ago, then we would be fine. The problem right now is that we own Rodgers during the playoffs, right in the middle of his worst stretch ever

 

[lukinrats]

This thread is actually not titled right for the current discussion/problem, but what was the point of starting a new thread. The point is that you can't start Rodgers in week 15 vs the Bears @ Soldier field in December, and during the FF semis

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

Really? You look at overall numbers on the season, completely disregard what this thread is talking about, then accuse us of living in a vacuum?Bottom line is that the writing was on the wall mid-Nov that Rodgers' solid pace was going to take a major hit, and I proved to be dead nuts right. He has been a mediocre fantasy QB over the last month, and I would guess that most folks who started him the last couple of weeks wish they had someone else at this point because they're playoff run is probably over.

um, ok. go start some scrub over him and then start a thread next week about how you will never bench your studs again.

Yeah, that's the point. Those who stuck with Rodgers since this thread was originally posted (See: 11/14/12) probably don't have a next week because he has done little to nothing to help their team during the critical playoff run. And last night's 15 points during wildcard weekend for most leagues further illustrates my point. Not to continue to surpise you with stats or anything, but Rodgers was the 21st ranked QB in my league from yesterday's games, so yes, there were 20 other scrubs that did better than he did, playing at home, vs the Lions who they've owned for 21 years.

The last 4 weeks, Rodgers has been the 18th-ranked QB in my scoring system. There's your vacuum.

 

[thehornet]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

Actually, Joe Flacco is on most wires, and depending on what size league your in...Freeman, Wilson, Kaepernick, Weeden. All of them have great matchups except for Flacco. At least Flacco will be given the opportunity to throw the ball more than 24 times. Jeez, 24 attempts is almost Tebow territory. Not Rodgers

Should i even respond to this? Sure, start Weeden over AARON RODGERS. Let me know how that works out.

 

[matttyl]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

I think you are missing the point that was made in mid-November, which I should have listened to. I should have sold A-Rod then, cause maybe if I had I'd still be in the playoffs, but I'm not. With 2 more QBs going tonight, Rodgers is currently the 17th best QB of the weekend in my $ league, tied with Cutler and only a point ahead of Tannehill. A month ago you could have gotten a #1 RB and a QB like Romo or Newton, or maybe you were lucky enough to get Kaepernick off the wire for nothing. Any of those QBs would have been better options.

 

[thehornet]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

Really? You look at overall numbers on the season, completely disregard what this thread is talking about, then accuse us of living in a vacuum?Bottom line is that the writing was on the wall mid-Nov that Rodgers' solid pace was going to take a major hit, and I proved to be dead nuts right. He has been a mediocre fantasy QB over the last month, and I would guess that most folks who started him the last couple of weeks wish they had someone else at this point because they're playoff run is probably over.

um, ok. go start some scrub over him and then start a thread next week about how you will never bench your studs again.

I have been saying for weeks, this same sentence. "Who else am I going to start?""I have to start Rodgers because if I don't, then he will throw 4 TDs and 300 yds, then I will be sorry"

Over and over again, the same crap sentiment, and then the week rolls around and he struggles, and throws quick bubble screens on every play. When he does throw down field, Nothing.

sure not what you expected, but he was still QB11 this week and he didnt even throw for a TD.

 

[thehornet]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

I think you are missing the point that was made in mid-November, which I should have listened to. I should have sold A-Rod then, cause maybe if I had I'd still be in the playoffs, but I'm not. With 2 more QBs going tonight, Rodgers is currently the 17th best QB of the weekend in my $ league, tied with Cutler and only a point ahead of Tannehill. A month ago you could have gotten a #1 RB and a QB like Romo or Newton, or maybe you were lucky enough to get Kaepernick off the wire for nothing. Any of those QBs would have been better options.

No, i understand the point from November and I still think you play rodgers regardless.

 

[lukinrats]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

Actually, Joe Flacco is on most wires, and depending on what size league your in...Freeman, Wilson, Kaepernick, Weeden. All of them have great matchups except for Flacco. At least Flacco will be given the opportunity to throw the ball more than 24 times. Jeez, 24 attempts is almost Tebow territory. Not Rodgers

Should i even respond to this? Sure, start Weeden over AARON RODGERS. Let me know how that works out.

Actually, Weeden was last on that list, and only because he is playing one of the worst secondaries in the NFL, but it that is the name that you want to pick from the others that were listed, then whatever. The point is this, in the last 4 weeks, here are the point totals for my QB Rodgers, and also the totals for the other names listed. These are totals from my league, and listed order of highest point total. As you can see, Rodgers has scored 5 more points than Weeden, so not quite the difference that you think. At least he is attempting passes and throwing them down the field. Kaepernick - 80.4Wilson - 79.6Freeman - 68.2Rodgers - 61.7Flacco - 55.1Weeden - 55.2

 

[lukinrats]

Aaron Rodgers average per game prior to this post: 24.3 completions, 265 ypg, 2.7 TDs, .5 INTs

Since I posted this: 20 completions, 247 ypg, 1.3 TDs, 1 INT

50% drop in TD passes and a 50% increase in INTs. Plus the dude's getting hit at a ridiculous pace.

Not saying I'm right, but certainly there's enough for a bit of justification...

Not really. You're actually completely wrong. He is the # 6 OVERALL player in my league right now and 3rd highest QB. You guys live in a vacuum sometimes. Get some perspective.

Really? You look at overall numbers on the season, completely disregard what this thread is talking about, then accuse us of living in a vacuum?Bottom line is that the writing was on the wall mid-Nov that Rodgers' solid pace was going to take a major hit, and I proved to be dead nuts right. He has been a mediocre fantasy QB over the last month, and I would guess that most folks who started him the last couple of weeks wish they had someone else at this point because they're playoff run is probably over.

um, ok. go start some scrub over him and then start a thread next week about how you will never bench your studs again.

I have been saying for weeks, this same sentence. "Who else am I going to start?""I have to start Rodgers because if I don't, then he will throw 4 TDs and 300 yds, then I will be sorry"

Over and over again, the same crap sentiment, and then the week rolls around and he struggles, and throws quick bubble screens on every play. When he does throw down field, Nothing.

sure not what you expected, but he was still QB11 this week and he didnt even throw for a TD.

Not in any league I am in. That would be at least acceptable. He is around 18 in all my leagues. That is 2Qb league territory

 

[thehornet]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

Actually, Joe Flacco is on most wires, and depending on what size league your in...Freeman, Wilson, Kaepernick, Weeden. All of them have great matchups except for Flacco. At least Flacco will be given the opportunity to throw the ball more than 24 times. Jeez, 24 attempts is almost Tebow territory. Not Rodgers

Should i even respond to this? Sure, start Weeden over AARON RODGERS. Let me know how that works out.

Actually, Weeden was last on that list, and only because he is playing one of the worst secondaries in the NFL, but it that is the name that you want to pick from the others that were listed, then whatever. The point is this, in the last 4 weeks, here are the point totals for my QB Rodgers, and also the totals for the other names listed. These are totals from my league, and listed order of highest point total. As you can see, Rodgers has scored 5 more points than Weeden, so not quite the difference that you think. At least he is attempting passes and throwing them down the field. Kaepernick - 80.4Wilson - 79.6Freeman - 68.2Rodgers - 61.7Flacco - 55.1Weeden - 55.2

So you are using the past 4 weeks to decide your fantasy playoffs? Fair enough. Start Kaep over Rodgers. I disgree with the strategy. A poster above mentioned that Rodgers stats were misleading becuase he has a 4 td game and a 6 td game. I sure dont want to mis out on that in the playoffs. I know for a fact that Kaepernick will never do that in a game.

 

[lukinrats]

I am sure that I will start Rodgers...AGAIN!!!, and hope...AGAIN!!! that he can have a Rodgersesque performance. However, it just does not seem that MM is going to allow it. He is not calling pass plays, and when he does, they are bubble screens to Cobb. He is content to win with the running game if he can, so that he does not get his QB hurt. With the defense once again being healthy next week, it will probably only get worse. 24 attempts by a #1 QB is not what you win FF championships with. It is the 35-40 attempt QBs. Which is what Rodgers used to be, and was at the beginning of the season. MM got scared of that game plan because of all the hits Rodgers was taking and the overall underwhelming outcomes that it had. 2-3 or 2-4 at one point.

Like I said before, Rodgers, to me is a great QB. I just can't win at FF with him, on this current team

 

[lukinrats]

this thread is utterly ridiculous. who else are you going to play??? Do you have Griffin and Brady on your bench?

Why is it Ridiculous? Why are we comparing the play of Rodgers to the play of Brady or Griffin over the last 4 - 5 weeks? Rodgers may be the #6 Overall, however, this is bolstered by a 6TD game and a 4TD game. Look, I love Rodgers as much as anyone. I would say that he is one of my top 3 or 4 favorite NFL players, and I have had great luck with him as my starter. The problem now is that the teams who were lucky enough to make it into the Finals or Semi's with him as their FF QB, have to be thinking about winning. Rodgers has one game with more than 1 TD since the Bye week (4 weeks ago), and in that game he had an INT and did not break 20 points. In the other 3 games, he has 1 TD in each, and is turning the ball over in every game. He has not broken 20 FF points in any of those games either, and in one of them, he might not have broken 10 points. The question now, has to be..... Can Rodgers help me win a Semi final and a Final, while he is playing Chicago at Soldier field? The Packers have become one of the run heaviest teams lately, and the line can't protect Rodgers. There are WW QBs that have a better chance of putting up 20 points right now than Rodgers does.

I repeat. Who else are you going to play that would make you feel more comfortable? Seeing as though most trade deadlines have passed and there is junk on the waiver wire. At this point in the season, this is just a piss and moan thread. Get over yourselves.

Actually, Joe Flacco is on most wires, and depending on what size league your in...Freeman, Wilson, Kaepernick, Weeden. All of them have great matchups except for Flacco. At least Flacco will be given the opportunity to throw the ball more than 24 times. Jeez, 24 attempts is almost Tebow territory. Not Rodgers

Should i even respond to this? Sure, start Weeden over AARON RODGERS. Let me know how that works out.

Actually, Weeden was last on that list, and only because he is playing one of the worst secondaries in the NFL, but it that is the name that you want to pick from the others that were listed, then whatever. The point is this, in the last 4 weeks, here are the point totals for my QB Rodgers, and also the totals for the other names listed. These are totals from my league, and listed order of highest point total. As you can see, Rodgers has scored 5 more points than Weeden, so not quite the difference that you think. At least he is attempting passes and throwing them down the field. Kaepernick - 80.4Wilson - 79.6Freeman - 68.2Rodgers - 61.7Flacco - 55.1Weeden - 55.2

So you are using the past 4 weeks to decide your fantasy playoffs? Fair enough. Start Kaep over Rodgers. I disgree with the strategy. A poster above mentioned that Rodgers stats were misleading becuase he has a 4 td game and a 6 td game. I sure dont want to mis out on that in the playoffs. I know for a fact that Kaepernick will never do that in a game.

I don't want to miss that game either. However, that is what I have been saying for weeks now. Hell, a month or more actually. I think you have to go with the current trends in FF, and the current trend in GB is to have a highly balanced offense