Clarkson was the best player on the floor, and will have a much better career than Lavine. Lavine is a Gerald Green clone.
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Clarkson was far better last season but he's also 3 years older than LaVine. LaVine's biggest problem last season was with turnovers. Get him focused more on scoring than passing and the turnovers will come down and he's going to look a lot better.
Routilla
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I concur. GSG!
pollardsvision
Footballguy
How about Lin and Frank Kaminsky for a donut? Not the Lithuanianed fella. That would be asking too much. I mean a donut. None of this frilly stuff either. An old-fashioned cake, non-glazed job.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
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I agree. They're past the "tank" stage, but the young guys still need their reps in the league. This feels like a 25-ish win team. Maybe a smidge closer to 30 if Embiid plays.
msudaisy26
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He said point guard, if I were the Rockets I would think about offering something for D.J. Augustin. OKC might have to waive him.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
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Really like what I saw from LaVine last night.Clarkson will be better than LaVine. Those delusional Laker fans
Same crew that believes Julius Randle is a franchise building block. Good luck with that 
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Abraham
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tommyGunZ
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Lavine looked really good last night. Wolves fans have to be excited that the offseason work on his jumper appears to be paying dividends. Your takes on Clarkson and Randle are silly. Randle is a potential franchise building block PF, which is why he was a top lottery pick last year. And if he 2014 draft was held over again, Clarkson and Lavine would likely be drafted very close to one another. I would probably still take Lavine over Clarkson, but not by much.
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Britney Spears
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Just those few seconds of Calabro give me nostalgia. Reggie Miller had to ruin it at the end.
simmonjm
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Im not sold on the Pacers at all. Was listening to NBA radio on Sirius yesterday though and they seem assured Pacers were making playoffs and I just dont see it. You have Paul George and nobody else. They might average 80 pts this year. If Rodney Stuckey is your second leading scorer your asking for trouble.
Spartans Rule
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Monta Ellis and George Hill will probably be their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers. They should be able to score.
I'd be more concerned about the defensive end. They're going to miss Hibbert a lot there.
Capella
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sporthenry
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Speaking of Embiid
Taking Okafor doesn't look too bad right now. BPA never fails especially over some hyped European. Can't have enough big men even in a wing's league. Okafor has his flaws and remains to be seen how him and Noel play together? Hey, maybe its a match made in heaven with each covering for the other's deficiency although one or both will have to develop some mid-range game. Would have loved to somehow traded back into the top 10 to get Winslow (although I imagine everyone feels that way).
They got Stauskas, the shooter everyone wanted them to take for nothing. Next year's class looks pretty solid on the wing, grab one of the top wings and see where everything shakes out. PG obviously remains a huge hole and will likely determine how this whole experiment works. With this many bigs, need the right PG and unless they can draft one, imagine that is where they'll overpay in the FA market at some point.
Taking Okafor doesn't look too bad right now. BPA never fails especially over some hyped European. Can't have enough big men even in a wing's league. Okafor has his flaws and remains to be seen how him and Noel play together? Hey, maybe its a match made in heaven with each covering for the other's deficiency although one or both will have to develop some mid-range game. Would have loved to somehow traded back into the top 10 to get Winslow (although I imagine everyone feels that way).
They got Stauskas, the shooter everyone wanted them to take for nothing. Next year's class looks pretty solid on the wing, grab one of the top wings and see where everything shakes out. PG obviously remains a huge hole and will likely determine how this whole experiment works. With this many bigs, need the right PG and unless they can draft one, imagine that is where they'll overpay in the FA market at some point.
Cliff Clavin
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BigSteelThrill
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Insein
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It's not the surgery for Embiid that's worrying. If it meant he gets right then what's another year. It's the talk that he may never get right and require this surgery again that worries me. Still, you had to take him last year for the upside. Just a shame if he never plays.
Who knows though. Maybe the surgery works and 10 years from now no one even remembers how his HOF career started.
Who knows though. Maybe the surgery works and 10 years from now no one even remembers how his HOF career started.
Randle played a lot. Basically just tried to bully his way to the basket all the time. Missed most of those attempts but got to the line quite a bit. Had a great post move and score over Towns and a nice first-step drive and dunk around Payne. Also had a nice rebound dunk that showed he can play above the rim despite his reputation. Looked slow on D and wasn't boxing out well. Russell started off the game great with some pretty assists and a 3, but then he just disappeared for stretches. They kept him on the bench too long at times. Seemed tentative out there. Not once did he even attempt to get to the rim that I remember. But he made some nice passes with six assists. You could see his amazing vision. Brown and Nance didn't do much. Brown appeared to have a nice deep stroke but missed more than he made and played poorly defensively. Nance seemed like little more than an energy guy. Undrafted free agent Upshaw owned No. 1 pick Towns with two blocks (and got a third block in like 13 minutes of play). He also towered over Towns. Showed his defensive potential, but he's still raw and out of shape. It was enough to get him a two-year contract with the first year partially guaranteed after the game.
msudaisy26
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I don't know why anyone takes anything from the summer league at all. Last years summer league MVP was cut halfway through the year and I am not sure if he is currently on a roster.
Bucky86
Footballguy
thank you!
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I wouldn't count on George either, that is a nasty injury. He may never be what he was before it. I also don't buy into Hill's development. He was basically the only option on that team and was forced to put up numbers. I maybe wrong, but we will see,
Spartans Rule
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It's not like he just put up raw counting numbers. He had a .579 true shooting percentage which is really efficient, and his turnover rate was very low for a high-usage point guard.
Monta Ellis might screw everything up, because Monta Ellis does that, but Hill was was really, really good last year.
Captain Quinoa
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 2h2 hours ago
Yahoo Sources: Indiana acquiring Minnesota's Chase Budinger in a trade. http://yhoo.it/1KYpM14
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 2h
2 hours ago
As part of the Budinger deal, Indiana will send forward Damjan Rudez to Minnesota, league sources said. Deal should be finalized today.
Yahoo Sources: Indiana acquiring Minnesota's Chase Budinger in a trade. http://yhoo.it/1KYpM14
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 2h
2 hours ago
As part of the Budinger deal, Indiana will send forward Damjan Rudez to Minnesota, league sources said. Deal should be finalized today.
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Darren Wolfson @DWolfsonKSTP 3h3 hours ago
Talked to G. Taylor. On Rudez: "Not a position we need. Not a person we were looking for." Pacers targeted Chase. Called #Twolves this week.
guess they're not keeping him
Talked to G. Taylor. On Rudez: "Not a position we need. Not a person we were looking for." Pacers targeted Chase. Called #Twolves this week.
guess they're not keeping him
Frostillicus
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Long Ball Larry
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Yeah, after cousins, who will be ahead of him? I guess WCS? Could he and bargnani switch out between every offensive and defensive position? That might work.
Looks like Gay may start at 4 this year. Koufos and WCS will get the lion's share of the backup minutes. They just signed Caron Butler who will probably play a few minutes at stretch 4 in the 10 games he's healthy. The Kings also only have like $3m in cap room so the Bargnani deal can't be a big one.Honestly other than Rondo they've really put together a pretty deep team that would definitely compete for a playoff spot in an alternate universe where the coach and franchise player didn't want to murder each other.
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Kev4029
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Karl and most of his star players haven't gotten along. That won't be what keeps them from the playoffs.
Kev4029
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I think Harrison could be a decent NBA player. More inline with his pedigree rather than his college production.A decent contract for Chandler. Might be a bit of an overpay if there isn't a team option or a partial guarantee towards the end of the contract.
Cliff Clavin
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Surprised Bargs would take that. Figure he could get more in Europe and he'd jump at the chance.
Cuban looking worse then Jordan at this point.
I agree with Redick's take. This is a business. Reason you pay an agent is to handle these situations. Seems like we hear all the time players finding out they've been released or traded by some reporter. Kind of telling Jordan was not comfortable with his own agent.
Cuban trying to extract his pound of flesh is petty at this point.
I agree with Redick's take. This is a business. Reason you pay an agent is to handle these situations. Seems like we hear all the time players finding out they've been released or traded by some reporter. Kind of telling Jordan was not comfortable with his own agent.
Cuban trying to extract his pound of flesh is petty at this point.
