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[msudaisy26]

I give the Cavs a ton of credit for the way they have played so far, but I think the fact they are only playing 7 players basically every game is catching up to them and they lose the next 2. Game 5 will be close with the extra day off, but game 6 will be pretty close to a repeat of game 4.

I think the Dubs have been playing 7 as well, haven't they?

No

Curry

Thompson

Barnes

Green

Bogut

Ezzeli or however you spell it

AI

Lee

Barbosa

Livingston

Prob more like 8, maybe 9 in one or two, if we looked back game by game at meaningful minutes.

Yeah, I don't think all those guys are getting legit minutes.

What does that even mean? Legit minutes, every game has been close going into the 4th quarter there haven't been too many minutes for the scrubs. Even before Irving got hurt everyone knew the Warriors had the deeper team.

 

[Jack White]

Lebron is the easy MVP win or lose. One of the greatest individual series ever played.

I think it has to come from the winner.

You mean there's a rule for that? I doubt it.

Has it ever happened, the loser of the finals having the MVP?

Just as a note, I just went down a list of all the MVPs, and found my first one from a losing team - Jerry West in 1969 for the Lakers. They lost to the Celtics. I didn't go back any further than that. Here are West's numbers: 38 pts, 7.5 ast and 5 reb.

ETA: Sorry, didn't see Bruce already had it..

You can't go back any further than that. Jerry West won the first-ever NBA Finals MVP award.

Also, just as in the regular season, it's not the Best Player Award, it's the Most Valuable Player.

As great as LeBron is, no way he should win the award if his team loses. I'd guess LeBron himself would agree with that.

 

[Jack White]

Curry will be the MVP, assuming they close the deal.

That display of shot-making in the fourth quarter was unlike any I've seen in 38 years of watching the Finals.

 

[Frostillicus]

Has anyone ever gone to your team's arena to watch the game when your team was on the road? Seems strange.

It seems really strange to me, but then again a Minnesota team I care about (sorry Wild) hasn't been anywhere near a title since I was like 13. At this point who the #### knows how I'd act if they got close.

 

[TenTimes]

Lebron is the easy MVP win or lose. One of the greatest individual series ever played.

I think it has to come from the winner.

You mean there's a rule for that? I doubt it.

Has it ever happened, the loser of the finals having the MVP?

Just as a note, I just went down a list of all the MVPs, and found my first one from a losing team - Jerry West in 1969 for the Lakers. They lost to the Celtics. I didn't go back any further than that. Here are West's numbers: 38 pts, 7.5 ast and 5 reb.

ETA: Sorry, didn't see Bruce already had it..

You can't go back any further than that. Jerry West won the first-ever NBA Finals MVP award.

Also, just as in the regular season, it's not the Best Player Award, it's the Most Valuable Player.

As great as LeBron is, no way he should win the award if his team loses. I'd guess LeBron himself would agree with that.

LeBron has been almost as valuable as all the Warriors combined, including Curry.

 

[mquinnjr]

Anybody have a good stream? Stuck in Romania but cannot access the ESPN one

The struggle is real in Romania.

How are you even posting?

 

[Daywalker]

Just heard on the radio: if the Warriors win it all then Curry will be the first All-NBA first-teamer to beat the other four first-teamers in the playoffs.

It's probably more of a scheduling quirk than anything but kind of cool.

Good nugget when gsw is docked by some for an easy playoff run.

 

[Donkey Derp]

I was using Leonard's defense of LBJ last year as a bench mark for AI to be MVP this year, but looking at the raw numbers (KL > AI numbers and LBJ'14 <<<LBJ'15), I really don't see how LBJ doesn't win it even if he doesn't want it.

 

[Donkey Derp]

I understand the lebron hate, but unless Jordan was there nobody else would have made this a series with love/Irving both out.

Their #2 player is #5 at best for gs

Not sure who is hating on James any more?

 

[Donkey Derp]

Well, good news for the Cavs - the team didn't have to work too hard this game. No one seems overly tired at the end, here.

Going home, I really think the Cavs get the game. Then it goes to a 7, and anything can happen, especially when you have the best player in the world.

If this were hockey, maybe, but Cavs can not play a complete, 4th quarter game. The LBJ tank is empty for about the last 6-7 minutes of the game. Not faulting him, but GS has won every 4th/OT this series handily except game 2. Sure, they can win game 6, but really hard to seem them pull out game 7 too. James simply can not do it all by himself.

 

[Daywalker]

I understand the lebron hate, but unless Jordan was there nobody else would have made this a series with love/Irving both out.

Their #2 player is #5 at best for gs

Not sure who is hating on James any more?

Well he did have Wade/Bosh and lost to Dallas and San Antonio.

 

[Popinski]

That's not bad defense. That's just better offense.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The Warriors won 67 games this season and had the leagues best offense, best defense, and nba mvp. The Cavs should have lost in 5 games. All the Cavs need to do is win a home game and then all bets are off in a game 7 w Lebron. Shame the Cavs aren't at full strength.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Should have saved everyone the trip and just given GS the trophy last night.

 

[JMon348]

Latvian teenage forward Kristaps Porzingis impressing at predraft workouts. 7 feet tall but only 220 right now, three-point range on jumper and showed some rim protection ability during Eurocup play.

He's going to need another year or two before his body fills out, but his shooting is already NBA-ready. Can pick-and-pop and shoot jumpers off screens.

Seems perfect for PHI at 1.03. They could even let him play in Spain one more year if they want him to get more game experience.

Lakers. Sign jimmy butler and let randle get better, send Kobe off in to the sunset and sign Durant next season.

Very little chance the Bulls wouldn't match for Jimmy.

Very little? I thought it would be a guarantee?

 

[NutterButter]

Should have saved everyone the trip and just given GS the trophy last night.

This segues a lot nicer into the US open

 

[Glass Joe]

If you're judging value, how could you possibly say that curry is more valuable to gsw than lebron is to the cavs? Golden state could win this without curry. Cleveland doesn't score 60 points if you take lebron out.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

If you're judging value, how could you possibly say that curry is more valuable to gsw than lebron is to the cavs? Golden state could win this without curry. Cleveland doesn't score 60 points if you take lebron out.

Cleveland is a lottery team without Lebron

 

[[icon]]

Should have saved everyone the trip and just given GS the trophy last night.

Cavs are cooked. No chance. IMO Cavs even covering as 4.5pt dogs will require referee intervention IMO.

Current Series Lines:

Warriors -1100 (Bet $11 to win 1)

Cavs +700 (Bet $1 to win 7)

 

[ghostguy123]

If you're judging value, how could you possibly say that curry is more valuable to gsw than lebron is to the cavs? Golden state could win this without curry. Cleveland doesn't score 60 points if you take lebron out.

Cleveland is a lottery team without Lebron

and Irving and Love..............................................................and Andy

 

[Capella]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Yea that sucks. People here are saying Lakers are taking Russell, so sixers will get Okafor

 

[CurlyNight]

JR Smith is one flagrant foul away from suspension..

 

[Jack White]

Should have saved everyone the trip and just given GS the trophy last night.

Cavs are cooked. No chance. IMO Cavs even covering as 4.5pt dogs will require referee intervention IMO.

Current Series Lines:

Warriors -1100 (Bet $11 to win 1)

Cavs +700 (Bet $1 to win 7)

I wish I could've gotten odds on the double IMO.

 

[Sammy3469]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Yea that sucks. People here are saying Lakers are taking Russell, so sixers will get Okafor

Who are you kidding...no way Hinkie actually takes a player who will actually help them next year.

 

[[icon]]

Should have saved everyone the trip and just given GS the trophy last night.

Cavs are cooked. No chance. IMO Cavs even covering as 4.5pt dogs will require referee intervention IMO.

Current Series Lines:

Warriors -1100 (Bet $11 to win 1)

Cavs +700 (Bet $1 to win 7)

I wish I could've gotten odds on the double IMO.

I loaded up on GSW -115 (bet $1.15 to win $1) after game 3

 

[tommyGunZ]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Still think Embiid is a more valuable property than Okafor?

 

[Capella]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Still think Embiid is a more valuable property than Okafor?

I don't think much of Okafor at all.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Still think Embiid is a more valuable property than Okafor?

I don't think much of Okafor at all.

Huh? Only freshman in history of the ACC to win POY. Great size and measurables, excellent post moves and ball skills for a 5. And was the undisputed leader on the National Championship team. I can see why you don't like him.

 

[Capella]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Still think Embiid is a more valuable property than Okafor?

I don't think much of Okafor at all.

Huh? Only freshman in history of the ACC to win POY. Great size and measurables, excellent post moves and ball skills for a 5. And was the undisputed leader on the National Championship team. I can see why you don't like him.

Great post moves, he will score but he will also give it all back on D. Can't shoot free throws either.

Winston was the leader of that team btw.

 

[NutterButter]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Still think Embiid is a more valuable property than Okafor?

I don't think much of Okafor at all.

Huh? Only freshman in history of the ACC to win POY. Great size and measurables, excellent post moves and ball skills for a 5. And was the undisputed leader on the National Championship team.I can see why you don't like him.

Let's not get crazy here. In many games including the NC, Jones was the engine of that team. Okafor has a tendency to disappear at times.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

IIRC it's the same injury that Yao Ming never recovered from. We may never see Embiid play in the NBA.

 

[TenTimes]

Just heard the LeBron "I feel confident because I'm the best player in the world" sound clip.

I'd give it a like

 

[CurlyNight]

Just heard the LeBron "I feel confident because I'm the best player in the world" sound clip.

I'd give it a like

He is right now. He's single handedly carrying the team.

 

[Rubi]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

 

[Popinski]

Off the Finals but if Embiid is really hurt that is going to significantly derail the Sixers already shady rebuild plan.

Still think Embiid is a more valuable property than Okafor?

I don't think much of Okafor at all.

Huh? Only freshman in history of the ACC to win POY. Great size and measurables, excellent post moves and ball skills for a 5. And was the undisputed leader on the National Championship team. I can see why you don't like him.

Great post moves, he will score but he will also give it all back on D. Can't shoot free throws either. Winston was the leader of that team btw.

Churchill?

 

[Jayrod]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

Both teams are led by MVPs who can score at will and both teams incorporate team defensive philosophies like the Pistons & San Antonio level champions. The offenses are being made to look ugly by the opposing defenses. Both teams would fare very well against a lot of past champions.

 

[Short Corner]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

Both teams are led by MVPs who can score at will and both teams incorporate team defensive philosophies like the Pistons & San Antonio level champions. The offenses are being made to look ugly by the opposing defenses. Both teams would fare very well against a lot of past champions.

I think the fact that we have had people arguing that Bogut shouldn't be on the floor while only a few months ago the narrative was they have to have him to win speaks volumes of their depth and versatility. They can play pretty much any style and can force other teams to adapt away from their strengths.

 

[Capella]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

Both teams are led by MVPs who can score at will and both teams incorporate team defensive philosophies like the Pistons & San Antonio level champions. The offenses are being made to look ugly by the opposing defenses. Both teams would fare very well against a lot of past champions.

I think the fact that we have had people arguing that Bogut shouldn't be on the floor while only a few months ago the narrative was they have to have him to win speaks volumes of their depth and versatility. They can play pretty much any style and can force other teams to adapt away from their strengths.

GSW is also vindicated for giving up so much for Iguodala. IMO he's a big reason why they've been able to play this supersmall lineup, and his passing has also allowed Curry to play off the ball more. In the bigger picture, adding him took a lot of pressure off of Barnes's development (and to a lesser extent, Thompson's), didn't force any of the kids to have to grow up too quickly.

 

[Rubi]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

You would compare them favorably to any of the Laker,Celtic or San Antonio championship teams of past years? Or even the shorter runs of the Bad Boy Pistons or Hakeem Rockets?

 

[Joe Summer]

Score more than the other guys /Mark Jackson

Another great quote from Jackson last night: "If I were the coach, I'd put LeBron back in the game instead of letting him rest. They need to score."

 

[Short Corner]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

Both teams are led by MVPs who can score at will and both teams incorporate team defensive philosophies like the Pistons & San Antonio level champions. The offenses are being made to look ugly by the opposing defenses. Both teams would fare very well against a lot of past champions.

I think the fact that we have had people arguing that Bogut shouldn't be on the floor while only a few months ago the narrative was they have to have him to win speaks volumes of their depth and versatility. They can play pretty much any style and can force other teams to adapt away from their strengths.

GSW is also vindicated for giving up so much for Iguodala. IMO he's a big reason why they've been able to play this supersmall lineup, and his passing has also allowed Curry to play off the ball more.In the bigger picture, adding him took a lot of pressure off of Barnes's development (and to a lesser extent, Thompson's), didn't force any of the kids to have to grow up too quickly.

I'm starting to lean more this way. He has been overlooked coming off the bench but it has suited the squad as a whole as he plays better with the ball in his hands and Barnes plays better as a secondary option. The team has several long defenders who can guard multiple positions, Draymond(1-5), Klay (1-4), Barnes (2-4), Livingston (1-3), Iggy (1-4). Really hope they eat the tax to keep them together or at least create that overage to attain assets.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

You would compare them favorably to any of the Laker,Celtic or San Antonio championship teams of past years? Or even the shorter runs of the Bad Boy Pistons or Hakeem Rockets?

They would have crushed the Gasol Lakers (not Shaq's) and likely the Pierce Celtics. SA from last year would be an amazing series.

 

[Short Corner]

Score more than the other guys /Mark Jackson

Another great quote from Jackson last night: "If I were the coach, I'd put LeBron back in the game instead of letting him rest. They need to score."

Those two are almost as bad as McCarver and Buck. Would rather listen to the German commentator.

 

[NutterButter]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

You would compare them favorably to any of the Laker,Celtic or San Antonio championship teams of past years? Or even the shorter runs of the Bad Boy Pistons or Hakeem Rockets?

They would have crushed the Gasol Lakers (not Shaq's) and likely the Pierce Celtics. SA from last year would be an amazing series.

Seriously crushed? I know Lebron is unbelievable but the rest of that team is a bunch of role players and they've gone to game 6.

 

[thecatch]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

This Golden State team is one of the better teams in NBA history.

You would compare them favorably to any of the Laker,Celtic or San Antonio championship teams of past years? Or even the shorter runs of the Bad Boy Pistons or Hakeem Rockets?

They would have crushed the Gasol Lakers (not Shaq's) and likely the Pierce Celtics. SA from last year would be an amazing series.

those Kobe/Gasol teams were really good too. I think that would be a good series.

 

[Donkey Derp]

The games have been entertaining. But watching last night I started to think about teams that have won an NBA title and wondered how either of these two would rate against them. The eventual winner,imop,may be one the worst "teams" to ever win a championship.

lol. What?

 

[dickey moe]

Lebron is the easy MVP win or lose. One of the greatest individual series ever played.

I think it has to come from the winner.

You mean there's a rule for that? I doubt it.

Jerry West won it in 1969 in a losing effort.

 

[Donkey Derp]

Bogut, a NBA second All-Defensive team player, is basically worthless now. I think that proves the opposite because the GS roster is that deep (yes, they still haven't won, but seems unlikely now they don't). Playoffs are a seven game series which allows for teams to adjust. Golden State so far has shown they have the personnel to construct a roster that Cleveland can't compete with and have dominated the last two games. Having that ability means you are really good, not really bad.