Sammy3469
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Shocking that Cuban is acting like a petulant child
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I actually give Cuban props for calling out Jordan for that fake apology on twitter.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
He didn't owe Cuban an apology at all.
So many ridiculous takes out there about a guy changing his mind about what to do with the next 4 years of a relatively short career.
So many ridiculous takes out there about a guy changing his mind about what to do with the next 4 years of a relatively short career.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Changing his mind was not the issue; handling the situation like an immature ##### was. If you verbally agreed to sign with a team, but change your mind, man up and tell them instead of hiding and avoiding their calls.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Like Ghost said, changing his mind wasn't a problem. It was acting the way he did and not even taking a phone call or making a phone call to say "Hey, I appreciate the offer, but I started having some doubts and want to go back to the Clippers". After he refused to talk to Cuban he did owe him an apology.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I just disagree that Jordon needed to talk them himself. Like others have said, that's what he pays an agent for. Now if his agent didn't contact them either, that's a different story.
Abraham
Footballguy
I have yet to hear anyone suggest that the Mavs talked to anyone other then DJ's mother, and that was the day after all the hoopla.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
The agent works for him, and tells him what to do. You really think the agent wouldn't have called Cuban and told him the deal is off? I am sure he doesn't want to burn bridges for future clients.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Well looking back after one year, it doesn't appear like they missed a ton behind Embiid. Maybe it works out in 5 years but even if it doesn't, I doubt they will regret it that much. Gordon didn't show much and Exum/Smart can't shoot. They'll probably be solid pros but I don't think any of them have all star potential. Beyond that, Embiid not playing a whole year at least got them Okafor which may be the most valuable pick of them all.
And they still come out of it with Saric and Stauskas. It stinks and maybe not having that 3rd or 4th option like Gordon hurts them down the road but I'm not really sure you can handle it any other way.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
You are just being naive, Jordan changed his mind and was too chicken to call up Cuban or have his agent call up Cuban to tell him. The agent is biting the bullet on this one to keep his client happy.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I don't know what the hell you are talking about.
You seem to be responding to arguments I haven't made.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The funny thing is the odds this affects the championship picture are slim to none. The Clippers are still a tier 2 West playoff team, and the Mavs, instead of becoming the 4th or 5th West team with Jordan, probably drop just out of the top 8. Some will dispute my Clippers position, but some act like Jordan was smart to stick with a proven playoff team, when in reality the Clippers are historically a stooge franchise that still hasn't been able to get out of the 2nd round. Let me know when they get past the 2nd round and then I'll take them seriously as a top contender.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I'm reneging and going to start posting over at FFToday. I apologize for my change of heart.
Capella
Footballguy
Teams don't get rid of players? They just keep the whole team forever? Magic just cut/released/didn't pick up the option on Ben Gordon like two weeks ago.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
@WojYahooNBA: Orlando is trading forward Moe Harkless to Portland for a future second-round pick, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Isn't it also possible that this whole thing was a marketing ploy for Cyber Dust? Though I still don't really know what the #### it is, I am now at least aware of it.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Really the 4th best team in the West doesn't alter the championship picture? At that rate might as well just talk about 3 teams in the whole NBA as affecting the championship picture. And you could say the same thing re: playoff success towards GS. This Clippers team really Pisces people off.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
A core of Paul-Griffin-Jordan, with some good injury luck, some good personnel moves around those 3, and with the Royal Rumble that is the WC playoff bracket, could win the title. It's a pretty long shot, but definitely not impossible. They would be frightening if they'd had a decent GM at the controls these past couple years.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Not via cut/release, no (other than rookie/non-guaranteed guys). Either their contract expires or a player/team option is declined or you trade them. Otherwise you're stuck paying them.
And if they told Gordon they were gonna pick up his option, then a few days later just sent notice of his release to the league without a word to him or his agent, that would be pretty crappy too. Just make a call or tell your agent to make a call.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
A healthy Memphis is still a factor as well.
Plus the odds of GS having literally every playoff team but them suffer injuries again is pretty slim. Time to wash off that horseshoe and pass it on.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The Clippers were wholly unlikable already, being a team full of on-court whiners, and now with the Jordan fiasco, they are approaching "easy to hate" status. Considering what an afterthought they were for decades, stuck behind the Lakers in LA, attaining any status is progress for them, really.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Always wanted him to get more run. Really good defensive talent who can hit the corner 3.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Of course not but if they catch an injury there are several teams in the West that can beat them. And let's face it, they'd have been lucky to take a game off of a fully healthy Cavs team.It's not all luck.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Bargnani takes less money to sign with the Nets over Sacramento. Ouch.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Oh yeah would've been Cavs in like 3.Of course not but if they catch an injury there are several teams in the West that can beat them. And let's face it, they'd have been lucky to take a game off of a fully healthy Cavs team.It's not all luck.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
OKC matching for Kanter.
Jack White
Footballguy
It was OK for Jordan to talk/text directly with Cuban before and after he committed to Dallas, but not once he changed his mind?
Jack White
Footballguy
Reggie ruins every telecast he's on.Britney Spears said:Just those few seconds of Calabro give me nostalgia. Reggie Miller had to ruin it at the end.sports_fan said:
simmonjm
Footballguy
simmonjm
Footballguy
Short Corner
Footballguy
Of course not but if they catch an injury there are several teams in the West that can beat them. And let's face it, they'd have been lucky to take a game off of a fully healthy Cavs team.It's not all luck.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
He's pretty bad on D but there's no other real plan B at this point, and the further they go next year, the better a chance you figure they have to keep Durant.
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
I don't think that's mathematically possible. But they were pretty great so I wouldn't put it past them entirely.Oh yeah would've been Cavs in like 3.Of course not but if they catch an injury there are several teams in the West that can beat them. And let's face it, they'd have been lucky to take a game off of a fully healthy Cavs team.It's not all luck.
