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Titans are fools for firing Mularkey like this. You just won a playoff game and all of the top coaching candidates are gone. Titans gonna be the Titans, though. 

 
msommer said:
That's the flap we know. Nothing the Titans do is ever right. Enjoy Nagy
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Hey, I want to see the Titans succeed. I live in the city and have been to many Titans games. But this was handled terribly yet again by the organization and now they're left in limbo with last pickings for a coach and staff. There's no way around that. It looks tacky and unprofessional.  

 
flapgreen said:
Titans are fools for firing Mularkey like this. You just won a playoff game and all of the top coaching candidates are gone. Titans gonna be the Titans, though. 
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flapgreen said:
Hey, I want to see the Titans succeed. I live in the city and have been to many Titans games. But this was handled terribly yet again by the organization and now they're left in limbo with last pickings for a coach and staff. There's no way around that. It looks tacky and unprofessional.  
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When would you want to fire him? Before the playoffs? 

He was not the right choice to take the franchise to the next level. 

Time will tell but I think you're wrong about them being left with scraps. 

 
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Bri said:
I do not think Fisher or Munchak return. Skip all that
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No kidding. Although Munchak is not bad in my opinion. I think he helped the Steelers offensive line turn a corner in some ways. They already fired him though, so those reasons still exist.

Fisher just should not coach at all ever again.

 
Bri said:
Fascinating stuff from JRob. 

Apparently he greatly disapproved of QBs practice time all offseason.Called Ferguson a waste of Strunk's money, plenty of quarterbacks available at the time.

Furious about Antwaun. Had a discussion about him supplanting Sylvester and gave his blessing. (Remember he rode the sled the linemen push?)

Agreed on roster #s and then Mularkey went differently but JRob had already had enough with the nose tackle issue.

Fowler? Shook his head, tried to reacquire him. Says he's not done trying.

Why not replace him sooner? Philosophy is still there, plenty he did right. Couldn't get a replacement on short notice to do those. Too damaging to morale.

So when did you think to replace Mularkey? I stopped attending training camp practices at one point.

So much woah, so much "I knew it," oh so much

Steve Hoffman filed complaints against Mularkey for practice time. Moustache and JRob let it work itself out. ST only got about 10 minutes together before the Pats game. Croom needed time one week, filed form, never got it, in fact he got less. I'm guessing DeMarco's injury week wanting to get Henry and Flu ready.

Mularkey arranged with Fort Campbell for wives to go. No one within the Titans was aware.

Something with anthem stuff not being coaching issue but a prob moustache should have solved

JRob, Amy, and Moustache won't micromanage. New guy will hopefully see they didn't. Hoped Mularkey would come around.

Can't discuss candidates on teams that are playing still
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Crazy stuff in regards to Fowler and to some extent Woods.

Who is the Moustache you are referring to? Grim?

 
The fact that the only thing Mularkey is rumored for after his firing is OC for the Browns goes to show how much of a correct move it is firing him.

 
Biabreakable said:
Crazy stuff in regards to Fowler and to some extent Woods.

Who is the Moustache you are referring to? Grim?
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Team president Steve Underwood. He oversees $ and everything that we incorrectly call non-football like tickets, stadium sales, ads, meetings w owners, meeting w competition committee, boss at the building, Amy's right hand man. Team President and team counsel. He was hired by Bud and rehired by Amy's brother Ken, and hired by her. Really he's been there a long time, the gaps are few months where they gutted the place but he (pretty much) always remained. 30? years...idk, but long time. Very highly regarded by the Titans and the league. When Fish was on the competition committee (many years) the NFL used Underwood to handle the legal aspects of it. I don't know what that means, why changing rules needs a lawyer but...

 
flapgreen said:
Titans are fools for firing Mularkey like this. You just won a playoff game and all of the top coaching candidates are gone. Titans gonna be the Titans, though. 
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Why?

If they want Schwartz the timing is fine.

As I mentioned earlier, more n more NFL teams are transitioning to these exit interviews. Mularkey would not alter the stagnant offense or offensive staff. He had a three year offer on the table and he wouldn't do it. JRob and Moustache can't let him do that. They had to stand their ground

 
Lebeau said he will wait to see who is hired and meet with Amy. He probably means all of them but...that's what he said. Years ago, the family was thrilled to hire Lebeau. He is not under contract for next year.

He said he loves it in Nashville and who doesn't. I have no idea where he lives, at his age if his wife says retire, or any of that stuff

 
gpthatsme said:
Bri - Just a suggestion that we change the title of this thread to Titans 2018 or something because a new coach means a new year. I think someone else started a Titans 2018 thread but there is no reason to lose all this back data by starting a new thread. Keep this one alive. As a Nashvillian, I love the thread.
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I didn't know there was a new thread. This is real old and long. I can see the logic in a new one and your logic here. IDK

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
His biggest problems in DEN were:

1. His attitude with players. I'd guess he's learned a lot in that regard and been humbled a bit by his DEN experience, followed by another half decade of coordinating.

2. Being given complete roster control. He wasn't ready for that and most HC's can't handle it. He has one of the best (imo) GM's in the league in place who is hand-picking him, if he's hired. 

If he's learned how to delegate and gets a good staff around him, he can focus on Mariota and the offensive scheme and shine imo.
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How do you know Bill Belichick with the Browns learned and will become Bill Belichick with the Patriots? 

It's so tricky to say McDaniels will become a special coach

 
With all the Mularkey news and his firing(mutually agreeing), we did not get the usual update on Conklin. Partial tear? Full tear? What other ligaments? Usually meniscus...today would be an MRI update and usually some statement from the team doctor. 

All Pro as a rookie is special. Sometimes the special ones heal quick. Sometimes 6 months for an ACL is all it takes to be full strength sometimes it's the start of strenuous physical rehab and the guy is 3 more months away. It's really a fool's game to speculate on Conklin now.

Tyler Marz has always shown well in camp as a tackle. He didn't convert to guard well this summer. Chargers grabbed him and Titans got him back. He's an odd one that went against many names in college and had tremendous stats for minimal sacks allowed and rushing yards his direction. At the combine, he was atrocious. When he plays T, he's fine.

Quinton Spain was a college tackle and has played tackle in preseason games and camp. 

Dennis Kelly fills in nicely as a backup. They love the guy, not just Mularkey. 

I don't at all expect them to add a tackle. They're deep enough to cover Jack's absence for a time.

Ben Jones and Josh Kline are presumed to be replaced. Zero talk of a tackle. 

 
Remember JRob will not allow a gutting of this roster. 

The Titans are far far far better than what we're used to. Gotta almost think like we're the Pats or Seahawks or somesuch. Tinker, tweak, address an issue; there won't be the fire sale we're used to.

 
Roster moves guesses-

I guess it has to be said. Dodd must be gone. Mularkey was the only one keeping him around.

I imagine Sylvester will get released or however they can deal with his big contract.

Succup probably re-signed

Weeden, McCain, Weems, Douglas, all gone. 

DaQuan Jones took a big step in his development before his injury. "No one" will sign an injured DE. He probably has to take a "show me contract" from them.

It's funny that Schwenke proved useful last year and wasn't re-signed but eventually brought back after the Colts cut him. He proved useful again so...what do they do now?

Defensive End- name, big signing or big time draft pick

MLB or ILB, possibly two since they fall each year in the draft. Woodyard is old and Avery had some excellent and bad games this year. Throw competition at these two.

Many think another CB

Without a doubt an outfielder, but this could be found in free agency or the draft minimally since they'll be a part time player.

An interior lineman. OK may be OK. People are wanting the best line in the history of football. Three of five being top is quite special. This could be an offseason theme but yet a better replacement never presents itself. They may just have to settle for a player being OK and not great.

Brown and Wallace seem to be the replacements at OLB so I'm not sure if they are as anxious to add one as others say. Brown played a ton for a backup. Unless Morgan or Orakpo announce an unexpected retirement, I think people are jumping the gun. Two quality backups to two excellent starters is fine. Whatever they think here also dictates Walden's possible re-signing or retirement. I don't think Orakpo and Morgan look as old as him when they play.

Backup QB. JRob has mentioned this a few times this year and recently but he hasn't given up a thing as to whether it'll be a veteran or a draft pick or both. 

I don't understand how Matt Mariota sat a year and has two years of eligibility but he does. Tua is only a year younger in the college world so I'm confused. Anyhow my previous statements will have to wait and I was wrong and premature. I still find him fascinating and think he's worth a camp invite when the time comes.

Douglas IS interested in coaching. If Mularkey gets a job, I imagine he is a WR assistant. Supposedly he has had talks with both Mularkey and JRob so I guess he could be a Titans assistant but they love their assistant WR coach from the CFL.

 
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Bri said:
Roster moves guesses-

I guess it has to be said. Dodd must be gone. Mularkey was the only one keeping him around. - Dud should be cut

I imagine Sylvester will get released or however they can deal with his big contract. - they can cut him with 1.3m dead cap, so they will

Succup probably re-signed

Weeden, McCain, Weems, Douglas, all gone. Yup

DaQuan Jones took a big step in his development before his injury. "No one" will sign an injured DE. He probably has to take a "show me contract" from them.

It's funny that Schwenke proved useful last year and wasn't re-signed but eventually brought back after the Colts cut him. He proved useful again so...what do they do now?

Defensive End- name, big signing or big time draft pick - Needed (well, what's needed is production)

MLB or ILB, possibly two since they fall each year in the draft. Woodyard is old and Avery had some excellent and bad games this year. Throw competition at these two. - agree

Many think another CB

Without a doubt an outfielder, but this could be found in free agency or the draft minimally since they'll be a part time player.

An interior lineman. OK may be OK. People are wanting the best line in the history of football. Three of five being top is quite special. This could be an offseason theme but yet a better replacement never presents itself. They may just have to settle for a player being OK and not great. Look in the 3rd round for a diamond in the rough

Brown and Wallace seem to be the replacements at OLB so I'm not sure if they are as anxious to add one as others say. Brown played a ton for a backup. Unless Morgan or Orakpo announce an unexpected retirement, I think people are jumping the gun. Two quality backups to two excellent starters is fine. Whatever they think here also dictates Walden's possible re-signing or retirement. I don't think Orakpo and Morgan look as old as him when they play.

Backup QB. JRob has mentioned this a few times this year and recently but he hasn't given up a thing as to whether it'll be a veteran or a draft pick or both. Just dump Cassell 

I don't understand how Matt Mariota sat a year and has two years of eligibility but he does. Tua is only a year younger in the college world so I'm confused. Anyhow my previous statements will have to wait and I was wrong and premature. I still find him fascinating and think he's worth a camp invite when the time comes.

Douglas IS interested in coaching. If Mularkey gets a job, I imagine he is a WR assistant. Supposedly he has had talks with both Mularkey and JRob so I guess he could be a Titans assistant but they love their assistant WR coach from the CFL. Who? Frisman?
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Let Decker go and allow Taylor to grow

 
MSommer, the CFL guy was let go when Frisman came on. My mistake. It's Luke Steckel and they love him too. Pretty sure I wrote a whole thing about him earlier. Coach's kid, has been an assistant coach of a few positions. Different guy but always odd how they adore the assistant WR coach

 
Biabreakable said:
Fisher just should not coach at all ever again.
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:thumbup: If anything, I think Fisher should be black-listed in every owner's / GM's book.  After seeing Rams this year with majority of Fisher's players, he did not deserve another chance after failing to maximize all Rams' talented players during that time.

If JRob is smart, he should hire a defensive-mind coach and make him get Todd Haley as their OC.  He would be boon for Mariota and his young and talent receivers. 

 
Bri said:
oh yeah? That's surely a positive. Well then what did the QB coach do? I'm not familiar at all. It all seems a smidge unusual
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I don't know who did what, honestly. Someone must have done something,

Goff went from clueless Rookie with more INTs (7) than TDs (5) to throwing for 3800 yards with a 28:7 TD:INT ratio

 
msommer said:
I don't know who did what, honestly. Someone must have done something,

Goff went from clueless Rookie with more INTs (7) than TDs (5) to throwing for 3800 yards with a 28:7 TD:INT ratio
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I could see they went to a short quick passing game and defenders could not cheat to keep an eye on Gurley.

Brady is a master at this. You give his WRs a cushion and he's taking 3-4 yards on a quick screen. Then you're too close so the WR is going deep. Somehow Welker and Edelman can take two steps and turn their hips in a second. You're doomed if he pump fakes too. 

I wonder what was called and what was Goff recognizing and changing the play. 

In general, I find that stuff effective but there are some games that it's too much and annoys me. I think we saw some real good thinking from Mariota when he was allowed to call plays. I still think it's just a homework interview but if he's hired, I'd be intrigued. 

 
Bri said:
I could see they went to a short quick passing game and defenders could not cheat to keep an eye on Gurley.

Brady is a master at this. You give his WRs a cushion and he's taking 3-4 yards on a quick screen. Then you're too close so the WR is going deep. Somehow Welker and Edelman can take two steps and turn their hips in a second. You're doomed if he pump fakes too. 

I wonder what was called and what was Goff recognizing and changing the play. 

In general, I find that stuff effective but there are some games that it's too much and annoys me. I think we saw some real good thinking from Mariota when he was allowed to call plays. I still think it's just a homework interview but if he's hired, I'd be intrigued. 
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Which would also work well in Nashville.

 
FWIW Lebeau and Jason Michael exit interviews went great. Both offered option to return. No idea what Michael's position would be, for new coach to decide. Lebeau waiting on hire of coach

 
JRob- new head coach will be able to release anyone he drafts in 2018, even the first round pick. Never wanted Mularkey to keep anyone he didn't want to and felt he did. They have a system that he calls a map. Titans not against the cap and personnel department still being reworked. There will be a point where $ comes in. Now, Underwood gives them a dollar amount that is just a ballpark figure. Spending will go up as young players renew.

Map is created with coach and personnel early on. Coach's wishlist, JRob's wishlist, try to acquire those positions. Multi-faceted players and 53 roster are discussed before camp so that every possibility in the world is covered. (map term) The coach and his staff can fill the 53. Meeting each week during summer where JRob and personnel director offer opinions and discuss available players. It's still the coach's decision on the 53.

Would releasing a player get a coach fired? No, of course not. It's his 53.

So if the new coach cuts Marcus Mariota? That won't happen

But would you fire him? Have a nice day, thanks for your time.

You have to answer the question. JRob walks out.

I swear Tennessee sooooooooooo needs some good sports reporters. Guy was getting a gem of an interview and ...young reporters always think it's their right to be a dink and push for a non-issue to trivialize. 

 
.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: Matt LaFleur has been with Shanahan and McVay. I think that would be a great move for Marcus Mariota. Needs some work, built up in some ways from scratch. Needs detail/nuance work. #Titans

.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: Very often Mariota lower body and upper body don't work well together. Gets off balance, ball placement not consistent. Fundamental, mechanical things that can be taught. Goff got some much tighter mechanically in one year. #Titans

.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: Mariota was never CEO in Mularkey offense, which as set up for QB to be a complementary piece. Still, have to make throws. #Titans

.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: No question you want to take advantage of Mariota's movement. It's a piece of an offense. not a foundation of an offense. Nothing wrong with incorporating those things, using them judiciously. #Titans

 
.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: Mariota off balance loses velocity/accuracy. The tendency to drop off midline. Have to drop back straight, not drift for no reason. He creates his own pressure sometimes. All coachable/fixable. #Titans

.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: QB mechanics have to come first. Throw it where you want to throw it comes from repetitive mechanics. Second part is understanding offense/ concepts vs. D and its concepts. #Titans

.@Gregcosell on @Midday180: Mariota needs a real QB guy who will break him down, build him up and make him into a high-level NFL QB. #Titans

 
Bri said:
JRob- new head coach will be able to release anyone he drafts in 2018, even the first round pick. Never wanted Mularkey to keep anyone he didn't want to and felt he did. They have a system that he calls a map. Titans not against the cap and personnel department still being reworked. There will be a point where $ comes in. Now, Underwood gives them a dollar amount that is just a ballpark figure. Spending will go up as young players renew.

Map is created with coach and personnel early on. Coach's wishlist, JRob's wishlist, try to acquire those positions. Multi-faceted players and 53 roster are discussed before camp so that every possibility in the world is covered. (map term) The coach and his staff can fill the 53. Meeting each week during summer where JRob and personnel director offer opinions and discuss available players. It's still the coach's decision on the 53.

Would releasing a player get a coach fired? No, of course not. It's his 53.

So if the new coach cuts Marcus Mariota? That won't happen

But would you fire him? Have a nice day, thanks for your time.

You have to answer the question. JRob walks out.

I swear Tennessee sooooooooooo needs some good sports reporters. Guy was getting a gem of an interview and ...young reporters always think it's their right to be a dink and push for a non-issue to trivialize. 
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What a dousche question. Why does everything have to be in absolutes to be understood? 

The rest was interesting seen in the light of Fowler - as in Mularkey dropped Fowler, it was his (bad) decision.

 
Been reading some about Vrabel and LaFleur. I find myself being all negative. I don't want a new coach and I don't want a loser experienced one. I'm most comfy with Tomlin.

JRob kind of joined when some gave us that Steelers south nickname. He added one or two guys but really he stepped into it. I used to want to get rid of that Steelers South nickname or thinking. They're ripping apart their staff and with or without Tomlin, geesh I want some good coaches! And if that attracts quality free agents from Pitt, well they won a Supe and are never below .500 so I'd sure be willing to embrace Steelers South now.

Sorry, tangent ramble...Vrabel I feel best about because of the BB tree and Romeo and making assumptions as to what he knows or what he'd do. On the other hand, I love what Cosell said about LaFleur and Mariota. I guess I need it all to shake out before I judge. There's no reason they can't have a defensive mind and a QB guru offensive coordinator or an offensive coach with Lebeau for DC. 

I'd really like Helfrich's name to pop up. The light is off the name candidates after the first couple days, hoping his name comes up soon. QB coach, OC, even assistant QB coach, whatever...just get the guy that used Mariota's skills as well as he did at Oregon. 

 
Bri said:
Been reading some about Vrabel and LaFleur. I find myself being all negative. I don't want a new coach and I don't want a loser experienced one. I'm most comfy with Tomlin.

JRob kind of joined when some gave us that Steelers south nickname. He added one or two guys but really he stepped into it. I used to want to get rid of that Steelers South nickname or thinking. They're ripping apart their staff and with or without Tomlin, geesh I want some good coaches! And if that attracts quality free agents from Pitt, well they won a Supe and are never below .500 so I'd sure be willing to embrace Steelers South now.

Sorry, tangent ramble...Vrabel I feel best about because of the BB tree and Romeo and making assumptions as to what he knows or what he'd do. On the other hand, I love what Cosell said about LaFleur and Mariota. I guess I need it all to shake out before I judge. There's no reason they can't have a defensive mind and a QB guru offensive coordinator or an offensive coach with Lebeau for DC. 

I'd really like Helfrich's name to pop up. The light is off the name candidates after the first couple days, hoping his name comes up soon. QB coach, OC, even assistant QB coach, whatever...just get the guy that used Mariota's skills as well as he did at Oregon. 
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Helfrich is already the new OC in Chicago, so that's not happening.

 
Seriously considering going to the Titans game in London - if they could only decide which day it is...

Then I'd have to find my old McNair jersey - or buy a Mariota one. Decisions, decisions...

 
msommer said:
Seriously considering going to the Titans game in London - if they could only decide which day it is...

Then I'd have to find my old McNair jersey - or buy a Mariota one. Decisions, decisions...
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I upgraded from my Vince Young to a Mariota. 

Hit the team store halftime of the Rams game. 

 
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