Todays College RBs (1 Viewer)

[ninerfanatic492000]

i don't think he's all that talented but i'm sure somebody will throw away a first day pick on PJ Hill of Wisconsin. at best he could be a useful plugger in a good offense like rudi johnson

 

[Rodeojones]

Looking at players other then the obvious, I really like Yvenson Bernard from Oregon State. He got banged up vs. Stanford but in the first half had 62 yards rushing and a TD. For 2007, he has 814 yards rushing, 32 receptions and 11 TD's.

If OSU is going to have a chance against USC, they are gonna need him.

 

[Sagan]

Any thoughts on Jamaal Charles out of Texas? He sure seems to have good awareness of how to hit the holes and also possesses a great second gear!

 

[Brewzers]

Any thoughts on Jamaal Charles out of Texas? He sure seems to have good awareness of how to hit the holes and also possesses a great second gear!

Other than last Saturday, his junior year has been disappointing. He has lost 4 fumbles this year and none bigger than the potential game winner vs OU. His tendancy is to bounce everything outside and utilize his speed. That works great in college, but not so much in the NFL. To his and his RB coach's credit, he has been working hard on going north & south and running between the tackles. He's had limited success IMO, part of the issue might be the loss of 3 all big 12 lineman to the NFL draft or the goofy shotgun, zone read offense that he runs out of most of the time, its hard to tell.He is fast, probably around 4.4 speed or better and has the elusive wiggle to make tacklers miss. His pass blocking has improved this year. However, I think he would benefit greatly by staying for his senior year and improve his draft stock instead of getting lost in this years RB crop.

 

[Hobbes]

If you have a chance to get Felix Jones I would do it and not think twice...I think he is the best RB in this draft after McFadden. Mendenhall is good also. I like Rice as long as they don't run him completely into the ground at Rutgers.

As far as the WRs go...Jackson is good but there should be a number of guys that are all pretty close in talent so I'm not sure I would pick one really high...I would be just as happy to get Malcolm Kelly, James Hardy, Adarius Bowman, or maybe even Early Doucet.

 

[guderian]

Matt Forte, RB Tulane

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

Sure I'm from New Orleans and I a homer, but check this guy out if you're skeptical. Last week he ran 38 times for 342 yards and FIVE touchdowns!

He even posted decent #'s against LSU this year... 16 times for 74 yards & a TD. That is great considering it's LSU's D and the rest of his offense isn't exactly something to talk about. Dude is currently leading ALL COLLEGE RB's right now.

Check him out here, http://www.espnallamerica.com/

Trust me on this one, he'll be in the Top 10 for sure although he would probably be a #1 overall if he was from a decent school.

I'm #2 on this bandwagon. The kid has had 5 straight 200 yard games with 278 on Saturday on a 2-6 team where he's by far the only real offensive threat.

 

[BigTex]

Wonder what happened to Lammey's 'Dark Phoenix' that had been in subscriber content weekly for a few years but is no longer. Really liked reading that. Had a lot of guys in there I never knew about until reading about them here.

I'm not sure, but I'm really dissapointed that it's not available. Since I can't catch the college games on Saturday it's the one article I used to keep up with the competion.

 

[H.K.]

CJ Spiller is a good call. He has low mileage due to spitting time with James Davis. He's got it all though.

Spiller is 5-11 190, while Davis is 5-11 205. I'd take Davis over Spiller. Davis can run between the tackles and is far more elusive than people give him credit. His TD run vs Florida State this year clearly illustrates everything you want in a back. He powered over a few tacklers at the LOS, and had nice moves to get past the second level. He's been that way his entire college career. Spiller is a guy who is fast and maybe more of a gamebreaker, but he can not run through the tackles. He tries to break everything outside. If one of those guys will be successful at the next level in an every down role, it will be Davis. Spiller can be a 3RB in the NFL, possibly.

 

[Dope]

If you have a chance to get Felix Jones I would do it and not think twice...I think he is the best RB in this draft after McFadden. Mendenhall is good also. I like Rice as long as they don't run him completely into the ground at Rutgers.As far as the WRs go...Jackson is good but there should be a number of guys that are all pretty close in talent so I'm not sure I would pick one really high...I would be just as happy to get Malcolm Kelly, James Hardy, Adarius Bowman, or maybe even Early Doucet.

FYI...Darren McFadden has 90 more carries than Felix Jones.And he has only 130 more yards.Go pro Felix! Go pro!

 

[ConstruxBoy]

For those of you who read wdcrob's great RB analysis awhile back and are wondering about the age of the incoming class (based on his younger is better theory), here is a ranking from young to old of the top 12 draft-eligible RBs on my list:

1) D McFadden

2) R Mendenhall

3) F Jones

4) J Stewart

5) R Rice

6) J Charles

7) R Torain

8) M Hart

9) S Slaton

10) J Davis

11) Y Bernard

12) I Johnson

Interesting that so far this season, those 4 youngest look like the 4 best in the draft next year.

 

[B Maverick]

Thanks guys. I think we will be drafting tomorrow, this gives me a great list.

 

[CowboyFan]

Knowshon Moreno (in 2 years)

 

[B Maverick]

for those curious few, here is how it went. Keep in mind some players like McFadden, Wells, etc were already taken in previous years. And some of these draft picks were traded, otherwise its reverse order of this weeks standings by record then points.

Here is the draft:

RB Felix Jones

RB C.J. Spiller

WR Malcolm Kelly

RB Stafon Johnson

RB DeMarco Murray

RB Tashard Choice

RB Knowshon Moreno

WR DeSean Jackson

RB Rashard Mendenhall

RB Kevin Smith

RB Ryan Torain

RB Joe McKnight

RB PJ Hill

Here are who is being held:

Team1 Jones, McKnight (loves USC, dropped PJ Hill for McKnight)

Team2 CJ Spiller, Jamaal Charles (would have dropped Charles for Murray)

Team3 Kelly, PJ Hill

Team4 Stafon Johnson, Ray Rice

Team5 Murray, James Stewart

Team6 Choice, DeSean Jackson

Team7 Moreno, Darren McFadden

Team8 Mendenhall, Slaton (My team)

Team9 K Smith, Chris Wells

Team10 Torain, Mike Hart

Team11 Brandon Ore, Pat White

Team12 No choices yet

Any thoughts?

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

the great combo's like felix jones and mcfadden in college haven't exactly always worked out in the nfl lately. those players that have shared in college haven't proven to be so durable or ready to handle being a workhorse on there own.

 

[B Maverick]

Wonder what happened to Lammey's 'Dark Phoenix' that had been in subscriber content weekly for a few years but is no longer. Really liked reading that. Had a lot of guys in there I never knew about until reading about them here.

I'm not sure, but I'm really dissapointed that it's not available. Since I can't catch the college games on Saturday it's the one article I used to keep up with the competion.

It was one of my favorite reads on the main page. Maybe a letter writting campaign to get it back?

 

[mr blond]

WOW!!!!!.....Make that DOUBLE-WOW!!!I believe I've read this whole thread and the absolute BEST player available for this type of format hasn't even been mentioned. I thought most of you guys were college hounds in here, and you just couldn't have missed this one.......Listen up my friend, if you want the absolute, no-brainer, best prospect to hold onto until he achieves NFL stardom from Day 1..........GrabDeMarco Murray Freshman Univ. of Oklahoma.......done deal!

I don't know much about Murray other than what I was able to see in his stats. He's had some great games and some average games, but based on his YPC stats in some games, it looks like he's a homerun threat. How are some of his other skills (running inside, catching the ball) and how does he stack up with some of the other freshman RB's?

 

[Yah_Shoor_Yoobetchya]

TYLER ROEHL of North Dakota State.

HOLY CRAP!

Junior

7 games played

141 att

995 yds

142.1 ypg

14 TD's

***UPDATE ***HOLY HOLY CRAP CRAP!

Junior

8 games played

161 att

1252 yds

156.5 ypg

18 TD's

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Any thoughts on Jamaal Charles out of Texas? He sure seems to have good awareness of how to hit the holes and also possesses a great second gear!

Other than last Saturday, his junior year has been disappointing. He has lost 4 fumbles this year and none bigger than the potential game winner vs OU. His tendancy is to bounce everything outside and utilize his speed. That works great in college, but not so much in the NFL. To his and his RB coach's credit, he has been working hard on going north & south and running between the tackles. He's had limited success IMO, part of the issue might be the loss of 3 all big 12 lineman to the NFL draft or the goofy shotgun, zone read offense that he runs out of most of the time, its hard to tell.He is fast, probably around 4.4 speed or better and has the elusive wiggle to make tacklers miss. His pass blocking has improved this year. However, I think he would benefit greatly by staying for his senior year and improve his draft stock instead of getting lost in this years RB crop.

Everything you've said here re: JC is dead on the money. Regarding his speed, he ran a 10.12 while placing 2nd in the 100m at the NCAA nationals a year or 2 ago. There is nobody faster in the college game. This year has mostly been a disappointment, after splitting time with Selvin Young last year. His freshman season was outstanding, but he benefitted greatly from an o-line of rare ability, Vince Young running the zone read to perfection, slowing the attack of opposing LBs, and the added threat of gamebreaker Ramonce Taylor. He's also been helped recently by improved OL play and improved running from QB Colt McCoy. However, C Dallas Griffin was just lost for the season from an already thin o-line.

He definitely needs to stay his final year to show improved ball-handling and inside rushing. It would help, however, if texas had a real inside running game, not one based on smoke and mirrors.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Wonder what happened to Lammey's 'Dark Phoenix' that had been in subscriber content weekly for a few years but is no longer. Really liked reading that. Had a lot of guys in there I never knew about until reading about them here.

I'm not sure, but I'm really dissapointed that it's not available. Since I can't catch the college games on Saturday it's the one article I used to keep up with the competion.

It was one of my favorite reads on the main page. Maybe a letter writting campaign to get it back?

We've been extremely busy with the Five Minute Drill and The Audible, and Lammey also has his gig at AM 950, plus another day job, plus three kids and lovely wife. Something had to give and we axed the college stuff this year, partially because we switch into draftguys mode in just two months.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Wonder what happened to Lammey's 'Dark Phoenix' that had been in subscriber content weekly for a few years but is no longer. Really liked reading that. Had a lot of guys in there I never knew about until reading about them here.

I'm not sure, but I'm really dissapointed that it's not available. Since I can't catch the college games on Saturday it's the one article I used to keep up with the competion.

It was one of my favorite reads on the main page. Maybe a letter writting campaign to get it back?

We've been extremely busy with the Five Minute Drill and The Audible, and Lammey also has his gig at AM 950, plus another day job, plus three kids and lovely wife. Something had to give and we axed the college stuff this year, partially because we switch into draftguys mode in just two months.

Slackers. Both of you.

 

[kremenull]

WOW!!!!!.....Make that DOUBLE-WOW!!!

I believe I've read this whole thread and the absolute BEST player available for this type of format hasn't even been mentioned. I thought most of you guys were college hounds in here, and you just couldn't have missed this one.......

Listen up my friend, if you want the absolute, no-brainer, best prospect to hold onto until he achieves NFL stardom from Day 1..........Grab

DeMarco Murray Freshman Univ. of Oklahoma.......done deal!

I don't know much about Murray other than what I was able to see in his stats. He's had some great games and some average games, but based on his YPC stats in some games, it looks like he's a homerun threat. How are some of his other skills (running inside, catching the ball) and how does he stack up with some of the other freshman RB's?

With regards to stats, especially for very young players, I wouldn't put much stock in them. But I've tracked this guy back to H.S. when he was right there with Noel Devine as the top RB prospect in the country. From what I've seen, this guy has the rare burst and top end speed of the 'special' RBs, and also great natural instincts (comparable to R.Bush). He also has the frame to get bigger, currently about 6' 1/2" and 190 lbs. The Mendenhalls and Stewarts of the world are very good RBs, but not what I'd call 'special'. This cat will be great, and I predict that he will run away (literally) with the Heisman next year to open up everyone's eyes.............KEEP THIS POST!

That TEAM 5 in the draft that was mentioned (obtaining the rights to Stewart and Murray) will be greatly rewarded. I believe Murray will be better than McFadden, and that's saying something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krgIPBvNg7U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1mt6DX_K4

 

[JAA]

I'd take Stewart if possible. He'll probably be the second RB drafted this year and a consensus top 3 dynasty rookie pick. Rashard Mendenhall from Illinois is another good RB prospect who could be starting in the NFL as soon as next season.If you're looking a little further out then consider Charles Scott and Keiland Williams of LSU, Jahvid Best of Cal, Noel Devine of West Virginia, Knowshon Moreno of Georgia, and Stafon Johnson of USC. None of those guys are locks by any means, but they all have a chance to be NFL prospects.

Ive been looking for an opporunity to watch Stewart all year. After watching him this weekend I am not sold. He has moves, he has size, but I believe his speed leaves a lot to be desirable. Maybe its that ive been watching Slaton, Rince, and McFadden too much but when I watch Stewart run I dont see feature back, I dont see game speed. What he has works at the college level, but Im not sold on the NFL speed. Now, I will say I felt somewhat the same way on Michael Bush, and the jury is still out on him.

 

[428143]

My rookie draft occurs two months before the actual NFL draft, so the rookie draft does reward advanced scouting before the main media outlets start pimping individual workouts. I think I'll end up with the #3-#5 pick, and I'm praying Medenhall falls to me. He reminds me of LT in so many ways, it's quite uncanny...and he should stay under the radar untill he puts on a show at the combine. His stats may be a bit inflated due to the Illini QB Juice Williams, but Mendenhall's talent in apparent. IF he can put on a show versus an OSU defense that should be targeting him, he may gain significant ground on McFadden.

 

[Native]

WOW!!!!!.....Make that DOUBLE-WOW!!!

I believe I've read this whole thread and the absolute BEST player available for this type of format hasn't even been mentioned. I thought most of you guys were college hounds in here, and you just couldn't have missed this one.......

Listen up my friend, if you want the absolute, no-brainer, best prospect to hold onto until he achieves NFL stardom from Day 1..........Grab

DeMarco Murray Freshman Univ. of Oklahoma.......done deal!

I don't know much about Murray other than what I was able to see in his stats. He's had some great games and some average games, but based on his YPC stats in some games, it looks like he's a homerun threat. How are some of his other skills (running inside, catching the ball) and how does he stack up with some of the other freshman RB's?

With regards to stats, especially for very young players, I wouldn't put much stock in them. But I've tracked this guy back to H.S. when he was right there with Noel Devine as the top RB prospect in the country. From what I've seen, this guy has the rare burst and top end speed of the 'special' RBs, and also great natural instincts (comparable to R.Bush). He also has the frame to get bigger, currently about 6' 1/2" and 190 lbs. The Mendenhalls and Stewarts of the world are very good RBs, but not what I'd call 'special'. This cat will be great, and I predict that he will run away (literally) with the Heisman next year to open up everyone's eyes.............KEEP THIS POST!

That TEAM 5 in the draft that was mentioned (obtaining the rights to Stewart and Murray) will be greatly rewarded. I believe Murray will be better than McFadden, and that's saying something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krgIPBvNg7U

I agree. Murray will be a monster next year. The only thing that can hold him back in another great crop of runnning backs who have committed to the Sooners next year - two of the top three prep RB's in the nation are going to Oklahoma next year. That said, Murray is certainly the real deal. He has extraordinary balance and speed.

 

[Calvitron Johnson]

Every available RB in college that is worth anything needs to come out. Fresh legs are needed.

McFadden

F. Jones

Stewart

Mendenhall

Rice

Slaton

UCF guy.

Clemson guy

and anyone else that can replaced the old beat up bums that are currently cashing paychecks like SA and Lewis.

 

[EBF]

I'd take Stewart if possible. He'll probably be the second RB drafted this year and a consensus top 3 dynasty rookie pick. Rashard Mendenhall from Illinois is another good RB prospect who could be starting in the NFL as soon as next season.If you're looking a little further out then consider Charles Scott and Keiland Williams of LSU, Jahvid Best of Cal, Noel Devine of West Virginia, Knowshon Moreno of Georgia, and Stafon Johnson of USC. None of those guys are locks by any means, but they all have a chance to be NFL prospects.

Ive been looking for an opporunity to watch Stewart all year. After watching him this weekend I am not sold. He has moves, he has size, but I believe his speed leaves a lot to be desirable. Maybe its that ive been watching Slaton, Rince, and McFadden too much but when I watch Stewart run I dont see feature back, I dont see game speed. What he has works at the college level, but Im not sold on the NFL speed. Now, I will say I felt somewhat the same way on Michael Bush, and the jury is still out on him.

I'm not saying he's a perfect player, but I'd bet good money that he'll go ahead of Rice and Slaton in the draft. He's much bigger and stronger than those guys. His speed is more than adequate and he'll probably put on a show at the combine. He definitely fits the mold of a first round RB.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I'd take Stewart if possible. He'll probably be the second RB drafted this year and a consensus top 3 dynasty rookie pick. Rashard Mendenhall from Illinois is another good RB prospect who could be starting in the NFL as soon as next season.If you're looking a little further out then consider Charles Scott and Keiland Williams of LSU, Jahvid Best of Cal, Noel Devine of West Virginia, Knowshon Moreno of Georgia, and Stafon Johnson of USC. None of those guys are locks by any means, but they all have a chance to be NFL prospects.

Ive been looking for an opporunity to watch Stewart all year. After watching him this weekend I am not sold. He has moves, he has size, but I believe his speed leaves a lot to be desirable. Maybe its that ive been watching Slaton, Rince, and McFadden too much but when I watch Stewart run I dont see feature back, I dont see game speed. What he has works at the college level, but Im not sold on the NFL speed. Now, I will say I felt somewhat the same way on Michael Bush, and the jury is still out on him.

I'm not saying he's a perfect player, but I'd bet good money that he'll go ahead of Rice and Slaton in the draft. He's much bigger and stronger than those guys. His speed is more than adequate and he'll probably put on a show at the combine. He definitely fits the mold of a first round RB.

He had enough speed to eat up the angle of several Fresno State defenders on that 88 yard TD run.

 

[B Maverick]

WOW!!!!!.....Make that DOUBLE-WOW!!!

I believe I've read this whole thread and the absolute BEST player available for this type of format hasn't even been mentioned. I thought most of you guys were college hounds in here, and you just couldn't have missed this one.......

Listen up my friend, if you want the absolute, no-brainer, best prospect to hold onto until he achieves NFL stardom from Day 1..........Grab

DeMarco Murray Freshman Univ. of Oklahoma.......done deal!

I don't know much about Murray other than what I was able to see in his stats. He's had some great games and some average games, but based on his YPC stats in some games, it looks like he's a homerun threat. How are some of his other skills (running inside, catching the ball) and how does he stack up with some of the other freshman RB's?

With regards to stats, especially for very young players, I wouldn't put much stock in them. But I've tracked this guy back to H.S. when he was right there with Noel Devine as the top RB prospect in the country. From what I've seen, this guy has the rare burst and top end speed of the 'special' RBs, and also great natural instincts (comparable to R.Bush). He also has the frame to get bigger, currently about 6' 1/2" and 190 lbs. The Mendenhalls and Stewarts of the world are very good RBs, but not what I'd call 'special'. This cat will be great, and I predict that he will run away (literally) with the Heisman next year to open up everyone's eyes.............KEEP THIS POST!

That TEAM 5 in the draft that was mentioned (obtaining the rights to Stewart and Murray) will be greatly rewarded. I believe Murray will be better than McFadden, and that's saying something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krgIPBvNg7U

The only issue with grabbing a Frosh is that so much can happen by the time he is draft eligible. Pedersen was taken as a frosh and it is finally paying off. Mike Hart, Jamaal Charles both taken as frosh and the jury is still out. Heck somone got fancy and took stafon johnson out of HS and ended up dropping him.And lets not get into Clarrett and his issues.

Not saying that Murray or any other frosh is not worth taking or any of these guys will be clarrett, just a bigger risk the younger you get. you get 2 spots and if done right, can pay off big in helping a team rebuild or maintain their dynasty

7 player keeper league, contracts, salary caps, developmentals.... heck we even have a redshirt option.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Jamal Charles, Texas, last 3 games:

OPP: Att-Yards, TD, Long, Avg

Nebraska: 33-296, 3, 86, 8.8

Okie State: 16-180, 3, 75, 11.2

Texas Tech: 23-174, 1, 35, 7.6 (injured most of second half)

3-game total: 72-650, 7, 86, 9.03

 

[Brewzers]

Jamal Charles, Texas, last 3 games:

OPP: Att-Yards, TD, Long, Avg

Nebraska: 33-296, 3, 86, 8.8

Okie State: 16-180, 3, 75, 11.2

Texas Tech: 23-174, 1, 35, 7.6 (injured most of second half)

3-game total: 72-650, 7, 86, 9.03

I agree, his performance has been spectacular lately. He is running instinctively and smooth. Much different than the beginning of the year which seemed very forced. Granted, these are some pretty crappy defenses, but he is exploiting them like you would hope. I'm still troubled with the fumbles though. I have no doubt if JC declared for the draft, he would raise his stock at the combine. He might be a first round pick.

 

[Outkast]

Knowshon Moreno (in 2 years)

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Jamal Charles, Texas, last 3 games:

OPP: Att-Yards, TD, Long, Avg

Nebraska: 33-296, 3, 86, 8.8

Okie State: 16-180, 3, 75, 11.2

Texas Tech: 23-174, 1, 35, 7.6 (injured most of second half)

3-game total: 72-650, 7, 86, 9.03

I agree, his performance has been spectacular lately. He is running instinctively and smooth. Much different than the beginning of the year which seemed very forced. Granted, these are some pretty crappy defenses, but he is exploiting them like you would hope. I'm still troubled with the fumbles though. I have no doubt if JC declared for the draft, he would raise his stock at the combine. He might be a first round pick.

You may be right, but with the improved running game of late, and his improvement in particular, I think he'd be better served by staying for his senior season and working on his ball control issues. This is a very young team that looks to be just getting it's running legs. Could be setting up very nicely for next year.