Lahoopz4ever
Footballguy
I have a man crush on Tony Hunt and see him getting a ton of short yardage and goal line carries. Anybody else feel this way, or am I the weird guy (possibly because I am a PSU fan)?!?!
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He may end up a short-yardage guy but he's another MBIII at best IMO.Lahoopz4ever
Footballguy
Yea, Im not taking him in the first but as a WW pickup, trade throw in, or late round flier I think he is gold. The guy can grind and living in the Philly area I was ecstatic seeing the Eagles take him where I can watch every Sunday. It's too bad the Titans (I am a Titans fan) took Henry instead of finding a way to get Hunt.
mr. furley
Footballguy
something happen to the guy?
haven't seen any Eagles games, nor have i been following their team news closely so i really have no clue... he hurt? i don't recall him touching the ball in the 1st half last nite.
haven't seen any Eagles games, nor have i been following their team news closely so i really have no clue... he hurt? i don't recall him touching the ball in the 1st half last nite.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
think I saw him get 9 touches in the 3rd - had a 17 yd run - finished with decent numbers. Grabbed him late and really would love it if he gets the GL gig. Helps me and hurts the westy owner!
mr. furley
Footballguy
with all the talk about him i fully expected to see him relieving Westbrook in the first half. but it was all Buckhalter.
is Hunt the clear #3?
is Hunt the clear #3?
Zoomanji
Footballguy
I think he's the #3 behind Buckhalter. I don't see any other RBs even making the team. Hunt will probably get GL touches and Buck will spell Westbrook between the 20s.
SSOG
Moderator
Maybe Tony Hunt will be this year's George Mason, as well. And this year's St. Louis Cardinals. 
Newsflash: just because something incredible and HISTORIC happened last year doesn't mean it's going to be repeated this year. You know who this year's MJD or MBIII is? The same as who this year's George Mason was- no one. In the entire history of the NFL, there has been one MBIII and one MJD. Both of their seasons were truly historic, the likes of which had never been seen in at least the 40+ years of the modern NFL, so expecting someone to even approximate them again the next year is a bit silly.
Now, I could see Hunt being this year's T.J. Duckett, but I don't think there's a whole lot of value in that. Outside of 2003 when Dunn got hurt and T.J. Duckett got a shot in the starting role (and finished as RB21), Duckett has never finished higher than 36th among RBs. If Tony Hunt really is going to be a goal-line vulture, he probably only has value in TD-only leagues. I could see burning a very late pick or a waiver wire acquisition on him, or acquiring him as a throw-in, but it'd be really hard for me to get excited about his value even if his role really was locked in stone (which, from what I hear, it is not).
Newsflash: just because something incredible and HISTORIC happened last year doesn't mean it's going to be repeated this year. You know who this year's MJD or MBIII is? The same as who this year's George Mason was- no one. In the entire history of the NFL, there has been one MBIII and one MJD. Both of their seasons were truly historic, the likes of which had never been seen in at least the 40+ years of the modern NFL, so expecting someone to even approximate them again the next year is a bit silly.
Now, I could see Hunt being this year's T.J. Duckett, but I don't think there's a whole lot of value in that. Outside of 2003 when Dunn got hurt and T.J. Duckett got a shot in the starting role (and finished as RB21), Duckett has never finished higher than 36th among RBs. If Tony Hunt really is going to be a goal-line vulture, he probably only has value in TD-only leagues. I could see burning a very late pick or a waiver wire acquisition on him, or acquiring him as a throw-in, but it'd be really hard for me to get excited about his value even if his role really was locked in stone (which, from what I hear, it is not).
Flexmaster
Footballguy
Tony Hunt is clearly the #2 RB, if you own Westbrook you NEED HUNT!!!
Shermanator
Footballguy
Im rather certain Buckhalter is the #2 guy.Hunt may get some goal line/short yardage carries, but I wouldnt expect a whole lot more this year
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Your certainty is well founded. Buck is absolutely the #2 & has looked good this offseason. Hunt needs to improve his pass blocking & is likely a short yardage specialist at this point barring an injury. He has good vision and feet but definetly lacks a second gear. Will be a nice clock killer and runs hard but I think it would be wise to temper expectations for this season.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Hunt is not worth rostering in redraft leagues. Buckhalter is the clear #2.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
in most leagues I play in 20 yds rush - 6 pts TDs7 TDs = 42 pts900 yds rush = 45 pts wmaybe not start but worth a late roster spot IMO =- pts are ptsStop it people. If you need to start a RB that is going to have 12 carries for 9 yards and 7 TDs for the season, then your team is awful. Good LORD!
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Why would anyone, except for TD leagues, start a RB on their fantasy teams who is of no use unless he gets TD's? You would be looking at a lot of weeks with zero points.
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Dude. Stop.1. How can you predict when a team is going to be AT the goalline? 2. When exactly are you going to start this goal line carry stealer?3. TDs are much more difficult to predict than rushing yards are.4. If you starting RBs only get 900 yards for the season, your team is terrible. 5. What player runs for 900 yards and ZERO TDs, anyway?6. Why waste a roster spot on someone you can't start?
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
Marion Barber is a good example of a guy who was just to be a GL RB and turned into a very serviceable player....not saying Hunt will be a stud but to say he is not roster worthy is wrong IMO.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Not a good analogy. There is no indication that Hunt will be the exclusive goal line runner, Buckhalter has proved capable in the past. The Eagles will use the shovel, sprint out and play action very frequently in their goal line package. Hunt has no shot of being the 3rd down back unless it is a short yardage situation. His blocking is not up to snuff and he has yet to develop the patience needed for screen plays to develop. Traits both of the other backs on the roster are very adept at. Unless there is an injury to Westbrook or Buckhalter, it is highly doubtful he will make any meaningful contribution to a fantasy squad this year.
The difference between MB3 and Tony Hunt is this little guy named Brian Westbrook. Julius Jones is not Westbrook. Tony Hunt is not coming in for BW outside of the 3 yard line whereas the cowboys are a RBBC.Do what you want but taking THunt in any league is stupid imhbro
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Mark Wimer
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I drafted him late in a survivor league - so I don't have to predict which weeks he's going to jam in TDs. If he happens to outscore my other backs in any given week, great. But I think he'll be worth more than just a goal-line back. Though Buckhalter is the #2 right this minute, he has missed 3 full seasons during his career due to patellar tendon issues in his knees (2002, 2004, 2005). He did play 16 games in 2006, and here was his wonderful stat line: 83/345/2 rushing and 26/256/1 receiving. The Eagles know they have to limit the number of touches Buckhalter gets due to his pair of surgically reconstructed knees (and I don't think he's a good bet to go another full season). He's simply not going to be able to carry the load during the week or weeks that Westbrook is dinged up and on the sidelines (Westbrook has never played a full slate of 16 games in his career - 13, 12, and 15 over the last 3 years, respectively). Hunt is probably not a great #3 redraft RB, but he's worth a roll of the dice at #4 or #5, IMO. There may be some weeks this year that he's worth a roster spot, especially in the second half of the season when the wear and tear starts to get to Westbrook and Buckhalter.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Westy and C Buck have been iron men too!
sigh....... fine. Draft Tony Hunt. Take him as your #4 RB so if you happen to lose 2 and 3, you can plug him in a pray for a TD. Don't take deshaun foster or lendale white or jerrious norwood or chester taylor or leon washington or julius jones or micheal turner or rueben droughns. Go with the #3 in philly because although CBuck made it through the season last year and BWest is only not on the field to catch a breather, THunt is going to be a monster stat producer as the #3 back.Great Idea. Good luck with that. :stabs eyeballs out of head:Oh yeah, always draft predicting injuries. Great strategy
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trader jake
Footballguy
Just one mans opinion here, but Tony Hunt doesn't even look like a player who will be in the league in a few years. Fully healthy he's okay. Once the wear and tear of the NFL slows him down a bit I just don't see him being a factor. He's also not physical enough to even beat out a healthy Buckhalter.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
He's plenty physical. A healthy Buckhalter is a pretty good running back so I don't consider that an indictment of Hunt at all. He'll be fine with some more seasoning, he just lacks a second gear. There are plenty of backs with less talent than Hunt that have lasted a lot longer than you're projecting.
trader jake
Footballguy
I watched him in preseason and he just doesn't have the body frame to hold up and/or move the pile. We'll see but I just don't envision Tony Hunt making much of a mark in the NFL. IMO he's a 6th or 7th round talent. Being in the Eagle offense could make him a valuable player in fantasy football, but I doubt it.dirtywaters20 said:trader jake said:
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
He's 230 lbs! You must not have seen much of him. For being a 6-7th rd talent he sure performed in college and amongst his peers at the Senior Bowl. We'll agree to disagree. He won't be a franchise back but he's not even close to being the stiff you have pegged for.I watched him in preseason and he just doesn't have the body frame to hold up and/or move the pile. We'll see but I just don't envision Tony Hunt making much of a mark in the NFL. IMO he's a 6th or 7th round talent. Being in the Eagle offense could make him a valuable player in fantasy football, but I doubt it.dirtywaters20 said:trader jake said:He's plenty physical. A healthy Buckhalter is a pretty good running back so I don't consider that an indictment of Hunt at all. He'll be fine with some more seasoning, he just lacks a second gear. There are plenty of backs with less talent than Hunt that have lasted a lot longer than you're projecting.
zadok
Footballguy
No offense, but what have you been watching? Against Pitt and Car he displayed a very violent running style and "moved the pile" more than once - the perfect compliment to the shifty Westbrook.PSI'm not predicting anything like a MJD or MBIII season from Hunt this year.I watched him in preseason and he just doesn't have the body frame to hold up and/or move the pile. We'll see but I just don't envision Tony Hunt making much of a mark in the NFL. IMO he's a 6th or 7th round talent. Being in the Eagle offense could make him a valuable player in fantasy football, but I doubt it.dirtywaters20 said:trader jake said:He's plenty physical. A healthy Buckhalter is a pretty good running back so I don't consider that an indictment of Hunt at all. He'll be fine with some more seasoning, he just lacks a second gear. There are plenty of backs with less talent than Hunt that have lasted a lot longer than you're projecting.
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
What league do you play in where any of those guys you mentioned are available as a #4 RB except may be Droughns? In my auction league those guys went for a ton more than Hunt (except Droughns) - maybe my idea of a #4RB and yours are different. In a 14 team league a #4 RB is around #50-56 off the board - White? Norwood? JJ? Foster? Come on!Blackstar said:
jimmoser
Footballguy
Let me get this out first...I'm a total homer for Tony Hunt. I'm a PSU grad and an Eagles fan...that said let me throw some stuff out at you:
At a school known for running the ball all the time, Tony Hunt finished #2 all time in rushing yards. Larry Johnson is #6. 2/3 of LJ's yards came in his senior season. TH currently owns 2 of the top 12 rushing seasons.
This not to say that he will become LJ, but I think it's premature to declare him a bust. If you question his durability, I think you should compare his health record with Adrian Peterson...
Anyway...all this makes me remember a FF draft about 6-7 years ago when one of the owners won our leagues award for most obscure draft pick. We all laughed and laughed after this guy took some 3rd string RB from Cincinnati. That guy was, of course, Rudi Johnson. (Sure, Rudi didn't do anything THAT year, but you see where he is now)
I guess my point is that with the NFL there is no such thing as a "sure thing," but there's no such thing as a "sure bust" either.
At a school known for running the ball all the time, Tony Hunt finished #2 all time in rushing yards. Larry Johnson is #6. 2/3 of LJ's yards came in his senior season. TH currently owns 2 of the top 12 rushing seasons.
This not to say that he will become LJ, but I think it's premature to declare him a bust. If you question his durability, I think you should compare his health record with Adrian Peterson...
Anyway...all this makes me remember a FF draft about 6-7 years ago when one of the owners won our leagues award for most obscure draft pick. We all laughed and laughed after this guy took some 3rd string RB from Cincinnati. That guy was, of course, Rudi Johnson. (Sure, Rudi didn't do anything THAT year, but you see where he is now)
I guess my point is that with the NFL there is no such thing as a "sure thing," but there's no such thing as a "sure bust" either.
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I'm not in a 14 team league. I'm in a 12. ADP is my 3, dfoster is my 4, norwood is my 5, lendale is my 6 and Chi's AP(who will also put up more points this season that THunt) as my 7th. I don't care if you're in a 14 team league. if THunt is your best option as your #4, you drafted very incorrectly.
amnesiac
beer is good
ok, seriously. congrats on having a nice draft, but you don't seem to be contributing to the discussion at this point.imo, drafting a back from a good team who is behind two backs with injury histories is a pretty good strategy.
Come on man. That is the shoddiest stats I've ever seen.Don't forget to mention that Tony Hunt is also the all time leading carrier in PSU history whereas Larry didn't even sniff the field until his junior year(where he only had 71 carries). Lets also not forget that LJ put up 2000+ yards in a season where THunt's best season was about 1300.I'm also not saying THunt is a bust. I'm saying that it'll be very difficult to put him on a FFB team in his rookie year as the #3 back
jimmoser
Footballguy
Ok..I agree with your point. I was thinking more along the lines of dynasty/keeper potential. For this year, I wouldn't have drafted him, but I'd keep my finger close to his name as a waiver pickup if either West or Buck gets nicked
That I can agree with. I'm not an "if and but" drafter. If BWest goes down, he'll be a mb3/JJ guy with Buckhalter for the rest of the season. If Buck goes down, I don't think his value still adds up to much(read as: won't produce significantly more than what CBuck did last year). You know as an Eagle fan that when Buckhalter is on the field he runs very well. I'm not an eagle fan but I've lived in the area all my life so Eagles and PSU are forced upon me by proxy.
SSOG
Moderator
He also forgot that 8 of the other RBs in the top-10 are classic NFL busts. You mean Tony Hunt had more rushing yards in college than Ki-Jana Carter?!If Hunt was really that good of a prospect, he would have been drafted higher. It's possible that the scouts made a mistake, but mentioning where he ranks in the all-time career rushing lists at a university perhaps best known for producing standout LBs and RB busts doesn't do much to sway my opinion on him one way or another.
zadok
Footballguy
Strong. Initiates contact and plows forward on every carry. Also caught a few.
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dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Looked real good. Ran hard, dished out some punishment. Displayed good vision & patience. Appears to have improved with letting the screen develop and has good hands. His skill set is very similar to Duce during his productive years and that's a good thing. He doesn't have the top end speed but will be a chain mover for many years IMO.
Eagle Eye
Footballguy
Here's a couple updates (prior to last night's game)
According to Philadelphia Daily News staffer Les Bowen, the unexpected development of sending Brian Westbrook out for only a couple of snaps Sunday while running Correll Buckhalter over and over again with the first unit might have been about the coaching staff's making Buckhalter prove he still deserves a roster spot. ... Indeed, Buckhalter hadn't been all that busy in the first two preseason games (six carries for 11 yards) and with third-round rookie Tony Hunt added to the mix, it's unclear where Buckhalter fits in. He did nothing to hurt himself against the Steelers, gaining 43 yards on 10 carries and returning a kickoff 23 yards. "He hadn't had a lot of opportunities," HC Andy Reid said Sunday of Buckhalter. "I wanted to make sure he had his chance. We're counting on him to be able to get in there and produce, and I thought he ran very hard tonight, played better than the chances he'd had before. He'd never really had a chance to get into a rhythm before. This allowed him to get some good reps.
According to Trenton Times correspondent Nick Fierro, Buckhalter believes at this point that he will be a bigger part of the Eagles' weekly game plans as a change-up back for Westbrook while Hunt handles the short-yardage/goal-line role.
According to Philadelphia Daily News staffer Les Bowen, the unexpected development of sending Brian Westbrook out for only a couple of snaps Sunday while running Correll Buckhalter over and over again with the first unit might have been about the coaching staff's making Buckhalter prove he still deserves a roster spot. ... Indeed, Buckhalter hadn't been all that busy in the first two preseason games (six carries for 11 yards) and with third-round rookie Tony Hunt added to the mix, it's unclear where Buckhalter fits in. He did nothing to hurt himself against the Steelers, gaining 43 yards on 10 carries and returning a kickoff 23 yards. "He hadn't had a lot of opportunities," HC Andy Reid said Sunday of Buckhalter. "I wanted to make sure he had his chance. We're counting on him to be able to get in there and produce, and I thought he ran very hard tonight, played better than the chances he'd had before. He'd never really had a chance to get into a rhythm before. This allowed him to get some good reps.
According to Trenton Times correspondent Nick Fierro, Buckhalter believes at this point that he will be a bigger part of the Eagles' weekly game plans as a change-up back for Westbrook while Hunt handles the short-yardage/goal-line role.
The Redbeard
Footballguy
Had my draft this past Wednesday night and selected Hunt as my 7th RB as the 67th RB off the board in the 20th round. Do I understand that he may or may not be the goal line guy, yes. But do I see him as a hard runner with a decent pedigree who is running behind two gentlemen with less than sterling health records? Yes.
I guess that I would just like to thank those of you that actually take the time to talk about the player. Which I guess would imply that I am not thanking those of you who choose to s#!t all over those of us who play in deep leagues and have enough spots to roster some flyers. No one said I am going to start the guy, but you better believe that if he punches in a few touchdowns early in the season, some guppie will be receiving a trade offer with Hunt's name attached.
Posts about the merits of the players are what make this message board a great place to be.
Posts about how brilliant you are and how stupid we are for having interest in a 3rd round rookie RB with opportunity, make this board as useless as 99% of cyberspace.
May your Studs stay healthy, your mid-rounders exceed expectations, and just one of your sleepers pan out and make guys like Blackstar eat their condescending words.
I guess that I would just like to thank those of you that actually take the time to talk about the player. Which I guess would imply that I am not thanking those of you who choose to s#!t all over those of us who play in deep leagues and have enough spots to roster some flyers. No one said I am going to start the guy, but you better believe that if he punches in a few touchdowns early in the season, some guppie will be receiving a trade offer with Hunt's name attached.
Posts about the merits of the players are what make this message board a great place to be.
Posts about how brilliant you are and how stupid we are for having interest in a 3rd round rookie RB with opportunity, make this board as useless as 99% of cyberspace.
May your Studs stay healthy, your mid-rounders exceed expectations, and just one of your sleepers pan out and make guys like Blackstar eat their condescending words.
amnesiac
beer is good
The_Hoser
Footballguy
Bang on, sir -- bang on!Lahoopz4ever
Footballguy
yea i made the post saying he is worthy of a flier/trade throw in/ww pickup NOT MY 1st ROUND BACK In one of the leagues I am trying to acquire him as a trade throw in I have LT Rudi Johnson Norwood Both Carolina Backs and Mike Bell on my team in front of Hunt but in deep leagues or keeper leagues (of which this one is both) i see the next Jones-Drew Jacobs or MB3. I am almost positive people had discussions arguing over these three as late round picks last year. Of course, he could be the next Ron Dayne or JJ Arrington, but his brutal running style and tough nosed play (believe me i have watched him at PSU for years) reminds me of some other power backs like eddie george. All I'm saying is that we should keep an eye on him and he is more worthy of a roster spot than backs like Chris Henry. Its all about the upside baby.
