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Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era - it's still real to me (3 Viewers)

plinko said:
56. Testament

I am not qualified to talk about the Big Six of Bay Area thrash.  Usually on my radar, but a little heavier than what I was into, and not super hooky. 

Testament, Exodus, Death Angel, Lååz Rockit, Forbidden, Vio-lence

Testament I know the best, Laaz second best, Death Angel some, they got a little big in the late eighties.  Exodus I mostly know because that's where Metallica poached Kirk from.

Some of these guys' wikipedia entries are serious business.  Whoever wrote them should have written the Slayer 33 1/3 book.

Let the musics do the talking in this case..

Laaz Rockit  

Death Angel

Testament:

Over The Wall

Nutcrushing cover of Aerosmith's Nobody's Fault
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Got into them in HS. Alex Skolnick is very active on Facebook and communicates with fans often too. Fun fact that ties into Savatage. Skolnick plays Guitar for TSO on their US tours from 2000-09. 

There's my useless metal knowledge in the thread 

 
I hope you didn't think we were done with things that suck.

55. Neil Schon / Journey / H.S.A.S. / Bad English

Must be an awful lot to unpack here too.  Not really, unless I start talking about Sammy Hagar..

OK, Sammy probably deserves his own entry but instead he gets to be part of two, the other of course much higher than this.

The mag/movie/song HEAVY METAL are part of the reason I think everybody called all hard rock heavy metal back then ..

Anyway, more Sammy later, but he paired with Neil Schon one time and it's what's going to get him on our playlist because Van Hagar won't do it..

Schon always wanted to be a guitar god and he kind of was, maybe not as much as he thinks.  HSAS, his 1984 record with Sammy Hagar and a couple of whodats, is pretty forgettable outside of a shamefully awesome cover of Whiter Shade of Pale.

His later "supergroup" Bad English, with their crass attempt to cash in on the glam rock craze, were rewarded with, that's right, a number one hit single.

Forget Me Not Crank it up, boomer!

Tom Breihan's Number Ones on When I See You Smile  -- written by the same schlock peddler who wrote that Sheriff song!

And then there's Journey, freakin chick rock trailblazers.  Begat our #7 band.

Stone In Love

 
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54. Yngwie J. Malmsteen

The chosen one was born Lars Johan Yngve Lannerbäck in Stockholm, Sweden.  Made this when he was 15..  which led to ---

In early 1982, Mike Varney of Shrapnel Records, who had heard a demo tape of Malmsteen's playing from the 1978 demo titled Powerhouse, brought Malmsteen to the United States. He played briefly with the band Steeler on its 1983 self-titled album. He then appeared with Graham Bonnet in the band Alcatrazz, playing on its 1983 debut No Parole from Rock 'n' Roll and the 1984 live album Live Sentence. Bonnet and Malmsteen clashed about who was the frontman and had a fight during a show. Malmsteen was fired on the spot from Alcatrazz and replaced by Steve Vai.  Vai had one day to learn the songs for the ongoing tour. In 1984, Malmsteen released his first solo album Rising Force, which featured Barrie Barlow of Jethro Tull on drums and keyboard player Jens Johansson. His album was meant to be an instrumental side-project of Alcatrazz, but it ended up featuring vocals by Jeff Scott Soto and Malmsteen left Alcatrazz soon after the release of Rising Force.
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And, exhale

Black Star
I'll See The Light Tonight

I saw Yngwie.. 15 years ago? at one of the places that tried to replace Hammerjacks.. and George Lynch opened!

Bonus beatz -- YJM was in Steeler with Ron KEEL -- Speed Demon ... KEEL, we salute you 

 
plinko said:
56. Testament

I am not qualified to talk about the Big Six of Bay Area thrash.  Usually on my radar, but a little heavier than what I was into, and not super hooky. 

Testament, Exodus, Death Angel, Lååz Rockit, Forbidden, Vio-lence

Testament I know the best, Laaz second best, Death Angel some, they got a little big in the late eighties.  Exodus I mostly know because that's where Metallica poached Kirk from.

Some of these guys' wikipedia entries are serious business.  Whoever wrote them should have written the Slayer 33 1/3 book.

Let the musics do the talking in this case..

Laaz Rockit  

Death Angel

Testament:

Over The Wall

Nutcrushing cover of Aerosmith's Nobody's Fault
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Absolutely loved these guys back in the day. Probably listened to Into the Pit 1000 times as a teenager. Love all the rhythm/tempo changes. 

 
plinko said:
54. Yngwie J. Malmsteen

The chosen one was born Lars Johan Yngve Lannerbäck in Stockholm, Sweden.  Made this when he was 15..  which led to ---

And, exhale

Black Star
I'll See The Light Tonight

I saw Yngwie.. 15 years ago? at one of the places that tried to replace Hammerjacks.. and George Lynch opened!

Bonus beatz -- YJM was in Steeler with Ron KEEL -- Speed Demon ... KEEL, we salute you 
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I still have a vivid memory of buying the Rising Force cassette tape on the suggestion of a friend, taking it home and putting into my boom box. I sat there, alone in my room, as I listened to Black Star for the first time. And my mind was completely blown. As soon as it finished I immediately stopped and rewound it to listen to it again. Honest to God, I listened to that song probably 15 times consecutively before I let the tape advance to the second song. I know that Yngwie has become a bit of a parody of himself in the years since. But for fifteen year old bigbottom (who started on a nylon string classical guitar playing J.S. Bach), Yngwie was a bona fide guitar god.

 
plinko said:
54. Yngwie J. Malmsteen

The chosen one was born Lars Johan Yngve Lannerbäck in Stockholm, Sweden.  Made this when he was 15..  which led to ---

And, exhale

Black Star
I'll See The Light Tonight

I saw Yngwie.. 15 years ago? at one of the places that tried to replace Hammerjacks.. and George Lynch opened!

Bonus beatz -- YJM was in Steeler with Ron KEEL -- Speed Demon ... KEEL, we salute you 
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I saw Yngwie open for Maiden sometime around 1987.   Maybe it was 1988, Yngwie was blistering fast and played super clean.   The supersonic sweep picking got old though and after about 20 minutes the place was chanting for Maiden.   

 
Yngwie was always more curiosity than polished act for me, anyway. Never caught his appeal. Nor Vai's, for that matter. Eddie Van Halen I got, but the other guys couldn't seem to write good songs, especially songs that didn't feature their guitar pyrotechnics to that song's detriment. Eddie could. 

 
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rockaction said:
Yngwie was always more curiosity than polished act for me, anyway. Never caught his appeal. Nor Vai's, for that matter. Eddie Van Halen I got, but the other guys couldn't seem to write good songs, especially songs that didn't feature their guitar pyrotechnics to that song's detriment. Eddie could. 
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Some of his group’s proper songs were pretty good. Heaven tonight probably the best example

 
plinko said:
Some of his group’s proper songs were pretty good. Heaven tonight probably the best example
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Yeah, I have to admit to only seeing him occasionally on MTV. I never really sought him out because my friends played him for me about three times and I didn't dig it. He may have a fine song or two that I just never heard. I'll admit -- and hopefully this is cool -- a lot of these bands I didn't care for that much. I suppose that'll change once we start reaching the top of the countdown. But I had considered myself a bit of an aficionado of the hair and even non-hair metal genres, and it's looking like I wasn't, really. 

Like, Savatage and "Hall Of The Mountain King" (the only song I remember from them because I didn't buy the album) would never be ahead of Sea Hags or Love/Hate, even, for me. I think I never liked the weird sort of Norse mythology/Continental ubermensch bombast that appealed to so many metalheads throughout the years. 

Anyway, I'm digressing a bit. Back to the countdown. 

Your humble servant, 

ra

 
plinko said:
56. Testament

I am not qualified to talk about the Big Six of Bay Area thrash.  Usually on my radar, but a little heavier than what I was into, and not super hooky. 

Testament, Exodus, Death Angel, Lååz Rockit, Forbidden, Vio-lence

Testament I know the best, Laaz second best, Death Angel some, they got a little big in the late eighties.  Exodus I mostly know because that's where Metallica poached Kirk from.

Some of these guys' wikipedia entries are serious business.  Whoever wrote them should have written the Slayer 33 1/3 book.

Let the musics do the talking in this case..

Laaz Rockit  

Death Angel

Testament:

Over The Wall

Nutcrushing cover of Aerosmith's Nobody's Fault
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Testament’s “The Ritual” didn’t leave my CD player for about a year after purchase. Just. Freakin. Rocks. (And still does)

I wasn’t really into Death Angel, tho my GBs at the time were youge fans, and was Exodus-blind until many years later due to my Metallica Myopia .

Laaz Rockit? never on my radar.

glad all these guys made the list. 

 
plinko said:
54. Yngwie J. Malmsteen

The chosen one was born Lars Johan Yngve Lannerbäck in Stockholm, Sweden.  Made this when he was 15..  which led to ---

And, exhale

Black Star
I'll See The Light Tonight

I saw Yngwie.. 15 years ago? at one of the places that tried to replace Hammerjacks.. and George Lynch opened!

Bonus beatz -- YJM was in Steeler with Ron KEEL -- Speed Demon ... KEEL, we salute you 
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1 - “Black Star” ruelz \m/

2. I’m 97% sure KEEL won’t make this Top 100, for many valid reasons, but LOVE he got a shou-out here. 

 
rockaction said:
Testament. Seen 'em live. Great act. Practice What You Preach was the height of their popularity. Actually, Souls Of Black might have been bigger, but I was disappointed with it, either because it was different or I had moved on from thrash. Way into thrash junior and senior year of high school, along with Sub Pop, of all things. I tended to always go where the talent was -- it was never about heavy or soft, melodic or not, etc. It was where the good songwriters were, IMO. And thrash had it for those two years.

Until I heard Sonic Youth's Goo for the first time. Then that and the Seattle sludge/grunge scene took over for me, and thrash bands fell by the wayside, except for Slayer and Pantera, of all acts. Pantera ####### rocked your face off for a time without the ugliness that Anselmo would later embody. 

Death Angel's Act III is just a tight, tight ####### album that shows off a total array of styles. "The Organization," "A Room With A View," and "Disturbing The Peace" run the gamut of pure thrash, acoustic thrash, and then funk/thrash. A truly underrated record from that year. 

Exodus's "Fabulous Disaster" was a nod to the movie Sid and Nancy and was a worthy song, however sociopolitical it was. "The Toxic Waltz," a paean to moshing, got pits going everywhere. They were the precursors to the elaborate killing fields metal shows are now. 
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great post. xactly right. 
 

and if “paean” was gonna get tossed into the FFA mix, this is the correct context/thread. 

 
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plinko said:
54. Yngwie J. Malmsteen

The chosen one was born Lars Johan Yngve Lannerbäck in Stockholm, Sweden.  Made this when he was 15..  which led to ---

And, exhale

Black Star
I'll See The Light Tonight

I saw Yngwie.. 15 years ago? at one of the places that tried to replace Hammerjacks.. and George Lynch opened!

Bonus beatz -- YJM was in Steeler with Ron KEEL -- Speed Demon ... KEEL, we salute you 
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The first concert I ever saw without parents was Yngwie opening for Triumph in 1986. 

I was like, how is it possible to do what he’s doing?

 
plinko said:
Somebody GAVE me the tape but it was one of those embarrassing Columbia House copies :lmao:  

I only ever got into Whiter Shade of Pale.  Aaronson and Shrieve were just some dudes.
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Shrieve was Santana’s original drummer and was in the band when Schon was. If you’ve ever seen the Woodstock movie, the guy doing the drum solo in the middle of Soul Sacrifice is him.

 
DJackson10 said:
Got into them in HS. Alex Skolnick is very active on Facebook and communicates with fans often too. Fun fact that ties into Savatage. Skolnick plays Guitar for TSO on their US tours from 2000-09. 

There's my useless metal knowledge in the thread 
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The duo of Alex Skolnick on guitar & Chuck Billy on vocals was one of the best of that era. Plus Testament wrote good songs.

Alex Skolnick's side project trio did some hilarious jazz renditions of classic rock songs like Highway Star & Detroit Rock City. 🎸

 
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53. Candlebox

The most recent band on the countdown is one that I enjoy, always have.  With their debut album in 1993, strictly soundwise they straddled the line between the fading glam and the new wave of alternative rock, in solid fashion.  It didn't hurt that singer Kevin Martin still had that dolled up eighties yowl.  

One could easily argue, anyway, that they were a logical progression from Saigon Kick and Ugly Kid Joe.

Like so many of their peers in both camps, they faded fast.  Second album was super meh, and while the third album was a nice recovery, it was 1998 at that point and they were already passé.  

Fascinating that they came up in the Seattle club scene right at the time that grunge was going international.  Almost like a little local backlash.  

I feel like their success is an indicator that there was always plenty of room for good rock music of every strain.  Conventionally speaking they generally get lumped in now with the Lives and the Lemonheads, could have been left out of this group here entirely, but they popped on MTV a bit, another band I have to live with the shame of liking, so let's just call them the last of the mohicans.

Cover Me
 - not our last entry from the "With Honors" soundtrack

Far Behind

Woodstock 94 -- get in the pit!!

10,000 Horses (1998)  

 
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plinko said:
I  lured all you metalheads in here just so I could drop Neil Schon in your laps
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HSAS is a top 10 album in my collection.   They only played 2 shows (Oakland).  Some of it is posted on YouTube.  It’s obvious that Journey really held back Schon’s talents.  It’s an outstanding concert, also a few other songs that didn’t make the album is on it also.

Blue Murder - no idea why Coverdale fired John Sykes, he’s an outstanding musician.  The self titled first album is another one of my all time favs.  The record company wanted them to feature Jelly Roll (maybe the worst song) over Valley of the Kings.  VotK and Ptolemy are the best songs on the album IMO.

 
Pip's Invitation said:
plinko said:
Somebody GAVE me the tape but it was one of those embarrassing Columbia House copies :lmao:  

I only ever got into Whiter Shade of Pale.  Aaronson and Shrieve were just some dudes.
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Shrieve was Santana’s original drummer and was in the band when Schon was. If you’ve ever seen the Woodstock movie, the guy doing the drum solo in the middle of Soul Sacrifice is him.
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Good call on Shrieve - going back to his young Santana days. he was widely praised as one of the best drummers in the business. Aaronson was the least known of the four, but was a highly in demand session player.

Agree on Whiter Shade of Pale as being a great cover - probably their finest moment.

 
Thanks for shedding the light on Shrieve .. damn my dismissiveness!

52. Danzig

"People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bull#### nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bull####," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'”

Sir, this is a Wendy's

Mother

 
plinko said:
Thanks for shedding the light on Shrieve .. damn my dismissiveness!

52. Danzig

"People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bull#### nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bull####," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'”

Sir, this is a Wendy's

Mother
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Dirty Black Summer for the win.

 
plinko said:
53. Candlebox

The most recent band on the countdown is one that I enjoy, always have.  another band I have to live with the shame of liking, so let's just call them the last of the mohicans.
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I still crank up Far Behind and I'm not gonna apologize for it.  

 
plinko said:
I hope you didn't think we were done with things that suck.

55. Neil Schon / Journey / H.S.A.S. / Bad English

Must be an awful lot to unpack here too.  Not really, unless I start talking about Sammy Hagar..

OK, Sammy probably deserves his own entry but instead he gets to be part of two, the other of course much higher than this.

The mag/movie/song HEAVY METAL are part of the reason I think everybody called all hard rock heavy metal back then ..

Anyway, more Sammy later, but he paired with Neil Schon one time and it's what's going to get him on our playlist because Van Hagar won't do it..

Schon always wanted to be a guitar god and he kind of was, maybe not as much as he thinks.  HSAS, his 1984 record with Sammy Hagar and a couple of whodats, is pretty forgettable outside of a shamefully awesome cover of Whiter Shade of Pale.

His later "supergroup" Bad English, with their crass attempt to cash in on the glam rock craze, were rewarded with, that's right, a number one hit single.

Forget Me Not Crank it up, boomer!

Tom Breihan's Number Ones on When I See You Smile  -- written by the same schlock peddler who wrote that Sheriff song!

And then there's Journey, freakin chick rock trailblazers.  Begat our #7 band.

Stone In Love
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Wait a minute… You can’t throw Neil Schon into the mix without mentioning the most deserving of his bands for this MTV/Hair Band list. I present without further explanation…..

Hardline “Hot Cherie”

 
MindCrime said:
Wait a minute… You can’t throw Neil Schon into the mix without mentioning the most deserving of his bands for this MTV/Hair Band list. I present without further explanation…..

Hardline “Hot Cherie”
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When this is all over, have to post the pièce de résistance  “We’re Stars” by Hear N Aid. Schon has a prominent part in it, but several others not yet ranked are also in it and want to avoid spoilers.

 
Love Neil Schon as a guitarist, have heard he's not a good person IRL. 

Never bought a Danzig album but don't turn off when on Ozzy's Boneyard. Dirty Black Summer, Her Black Wings, good stuff.

 
zamboni said:
When this is all over, have to post the pièce de résistance  “We’re Stars” by Hear N Aid. Schon has a prominent part in it, but several others not yet ranked are also in it and want to avoid spoilers.
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It was going to come up, maybe not long from now?  I know Blackie was on it, Neil was around, but I hadn't thought to bring it up just yet.  As one can naturally assume, the organizer is in the top 3.

By the time we got to Queensryche I'd figure we'd have covered it, but anything goes, I already posted at least a few people who were on that so let's talk Hear N' Aid.

By let's I mean you guys because I have an important write-up to do that will hopefully please @rockaction . For once in my life.  Then we're at halfway break!

Saw Neil Schon play just a few years ago at the Independent when I was living in San Francisco.  A charity gig for something or other.. I forget now.    I thought it was a kick butt show and whoever the drummer was, he was awesome singing the Journey songs and being the general frontman.  Neil just shut up and played.  I would rather see that 1000X over new era Journey again, whose butts I later saw Def Leppard kick off the stage at Oracle Park.

(Also I picked Stars in the Summerpalooza league :LAM: for DeSean I think? Where is that thread)

 
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plinko said:
53. Candlebox

The most recent band on the countdown is one that I enjoy, always have.  With their debut album in 1993, strictly soundwise they straddled the line between the fading glam and the new wave of alternative rock, in solid fashion.  It didn't hurt that singer Kevin Martin still had that dolled up eighties yowl.  

One could easily argue, anyway, that they were a logical progression from Saigon Kick and Ugly Kid Joe.

Like so many of their peers in both camps, they faded fast.  Second album was super meh, and while the third album was a nice recovery, it was 1998 at that point and they were already passé.  

Fascinating that they came up in the Seattle club scene right at the time that grunge was going international.  Almost like a little local backlash.  

I feel like their success is an indicator that there was always plenty of room for good rock music of every strain.  Conventionally speaking they generally get lumped in now with the Lives and the Lemonheads, could have been left out of this group here entirely, but they popped on MTV a bit, another band I have to live with the shame of liking, so let's just call them the last of the mohicans.

Cover Me
 - not our last entry from the "With Honors" soundtrack

Far Behind

Woodstock 94 -- get in the pit!!

10,000 Horses (1998)  
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Back in high school I had a party where a bunch of us dropped acid and somehow Cover Me got out on repeat in the CD player and just played for hours (I don’t know why nobody bothered to change it)

also saw them at Arts Beats and Eats 5ish years ago (2017 looks like https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/candlebox/2017/arts-beats-and-eats-royal-oak-mi-23e2f807.html )

 
This is what I said about Hear N' Aid 

HFS. Rokken with Dokken at 1:55 in! And then back around with George Lynch at about 4:00 in. 

Ronnie James Dio, Rob Halford, all the pipes in the L.A. were laying down tracks. I think Geoff Tate is there at about 5:15. 

@KarmaPolice and @Raging weasel you guys absolutely have to watch this ish. 

This is laying it down. Guitars from about 2:45 - to, well, I've been typing for about over two and a half minutes now. 

This is some guitar solo. 

 
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Leroy Hoard said:
Hoping he might show up here again singing for one of Yngwie's guitar heros in that guy's second most famous band. 🎸
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I'm pretty sure I know the 2 bands you're speaking about where Joe Lynn sang, but I don't know which I would consider the most famous...   I'm guessing the band name you're referencing as 2nd has MS in it?

 
plinko said:
I hope you didn't think we were done with things that suck.

55. Neil Schon / Journey / H.S.A.S. / Bad English

Must be an awful lot to unpack here too.  Not really, unless I start talking about Sammy Hagar..

OK, Sammy probably deserves his own entry but instead he gets to be part of two, the other of course much higher than this.

The mag/movie/song HEAVY METAL are part of the reason I think everybody called all hard rock heavy metal back then ..

Anyway, more Sammy later, but he paired with Neil Schon one time and it's what's going to get him on our playlist because Van Hagar won't do it..

Schon always wanted to be a guitar god and he kind of was, maybe not as much as he thinks.  HSAS, his 1984 record with Sammy Hagar and a couple of whodats, is pretty forgettable outside of a shamefully awesome cover of Whiter Shade of Pale.

His later "supergroup" Bad English, with their crass attempt to cash in on the glam rock craze, were rewarded with, that's right, a number one hit single.

Forget Me Not Crank it up, boomer!

Tom Breihan's Number Ones on When I See You Smile  -- written by the same schlock peddler who wrote that Sheriff song!

And then there's Journey, freakin chick rock trailblazers.  Begat our #7 band.

Stone In Love
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Saw Journey open for Def Leppard as their anniversary tour for Hysteria album. My cousin took me for my birthday. This was when Soto was Journey's Lead. 

 
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SteevieG said:
I'm pretty sure I know the 2 bands you're speaking about where Joe Lynn sang, but I don't know which I would consider the most famous...   I'm guessing the band name you're referencing as 2nd has MS in it?
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My fault for not being clearer. I meant the guitar player's 2nd most famous band,  and his initials are RB.

 
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