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Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era - it's still real to me (2 Viewers)

Thanks for shedding the light on Shrieve .. damn my dismissiveness!

52. Danzig

"People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bull#### nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bull####," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'”

Sir, this is a Wendy's

Mother


I'm big into Punk which is maybe why I love Motley Crue so much. I won't get too political but will say Danzig is right. At the same time I'm astounded by all the metal heads today who's political views are the complete opposite of what the metal/rock/punk genre was all about though and some of the acts. I forget who it was recently I think someone who was with the Misfits (could be wrong) and comment sections of the article basically ripped him saying everything now he views is totally against what the Misfits stood for no wonder he was kicked out. 

Anyway I just thought this part of the scene today was a bit weird. Metal and all was against these dictatorships and other things so apparent in countries the last few yrs and some of the fans and talent in this genre are going against those views now 

 
That’s interesting. What’s the scoop?
Jeff Scott Soto the former lead singer apparently had a recent interview with I think Eddie Trunk. Said he was fired from Journey but Schonn never gave him a reason and wouldn't return phone calls or messages given to others about Soto wanting to know. Soto said he wasn't holding a grudge just was generally curious why they let him go since there never was any bad blood between him and anyone in the band. Schonn basically has ghosted him since telling him he was out. 

There's other incidents but this is the current one right now. According to reports Soto was liked and Schonn just didn't give him a reason. 

 
58. W.A.S.P. 

Back smack in the middle of the eighties, when I was first getting into the stuff, it seemed like these dudes were solidly in everybody's top ten as far as heavy metal acts.  A lot happened in just a few years, and they sort of faded into the scenery.  As for me, I was never a fan, but I can headbang along.

I Wanna Be Somebody

Wild Child

The Real Me -  kicks ###, we'll allow it
Oh #### yeah. 12-yr-old Herb first heard of this band when perusing the record section at the local public library. Inside the Electric Circus stood out because Blackie Lawless was on the cover in a tiger leotard, looking as threatening as a grown man with a giant mane of hair can possibly look while wearing a tiger leotard. I checked it out and gave it a spin and to this day it's one of my favorite albums ever. Blackie has a great voice, and despite their reputation, they have a pretty accessible sound.

I'm Alive

Restless Gypsy

Cover of Easy Living  that maybe no one asked for, but I love it.

 
My fault for not being clearer. I meant the guitar player's 2nd most famous band,  and his initials are RB.
I was thinking of the band you're talking about but the other I was thinking about still exists (sort of) and the main guys plays a V.  I know Joe played a bit with RB's most famous band, but I don't really associate Joe with that band much.  But good call...

 
Thanks for shedding the light on Shrieve .. damn my dismissiveness!

52. Danzig

"People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bull#### nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bull####," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'”

Sir, this is a Wendy's

Mother
I always liked Glenn Danzig's voice, even though it seemed as if he was intentionally aping Elvis at times. The problem I have with Danzig the band is that they were just completely inferior to the Misfits in every way. I know that's a high bar, as the Misfits are probably on the Mt. Rushmore of punk, I just expected more.

 
Thanks for shedding the light on Shrieve .. damn my dismissiveness!

52. Danzig

"People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bull#### nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bull####," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'”

Sir, this is a Wendy's

Mother
Ohhh, Glenn. You silly, tiny, little steroid elf, you.  Did you ever get that ####ty house of yours in Los Feliz sold?  Hope you celebrated with some nice french onion soup.

“HERE I AM MOTHERF-----R, JUST CLEANING UP MY F-----G BRICKS B----!”, indeed.

 
That’s interesting. What’s the scoop?
Nothing direct, all 2nd hand, so take it for what it's worth. A good friend of mine said Schon was extremely aggressive with one of his girl friends, like borderline Weinstein type stuff (years before Me Too), and just generally came across as arrogant to everyone. 

Another guy I worked with said he met Schon at a concert afterparty (not Journey) and Schon wasn't nice at all -- he did say maybe he was just having a bad day or something, everyone's allowed. 

Again, nothing definitive so don't want to drag his name through the mud when it may not be accurate. 

Love his guitar playing, though. He clearly rocks way harder than the band he's in. 

 
51. Hanoi Rocks

Most famous for - SADLY - their drummer being killed by Vince Neil, it's really too bad because they had a great story, played a lot of gigs all over the U.K and Scandinavia for a lot of years, cut some records and they had a lot of big names like Bob Ezrin and Ian Hunter behind them.  They were working on taking over over the U.S... when tragedy struck.

Would they have done it?  I don't know.  From what I've heard of their catalog, I can't say whether or not they had the hits in them.  Early on they were more New York Dolls than anything.  In any case.. they sure seem like they must have been a lot of fun.

Microfactoid: Razzle, our dearly departed Pantera passenger, was the only member of the band who wasn't Finnish.  He was a fan of the band when they moved to London, pushed himself on them to be their drummer and won the job from a guy called Gyp Casino.

Taxi Driver
Don't You Ever Leave Me
Around the Bend a cover everyone should always ask for

 
Testament. Seen 'em live. Great act. Practice What You Preach was the height of their popularity. Actually, Souls Of Black might have been bigger, but I was disappointed with it, either because it was different or I had moved on from thrash. Way into thrash junior and senior year of high school, along with Sub Pop, of all things. I tended to always go where the talent was -- it was never about heavy or soft, melodic or not, etc. It was where the good songwriters were, IMO. And thrash had it for those two years.

Until I heard Sonic Youth's Goo for the first time. Then that and the Seattle sludge/grunge scene took over for me, and thrash bands fell by the wayside, except for Slayer and Pantera, of all acts. Pantera ####### rocked your face off for a time without the ugliness that Anselmo would later embody. 

Death Angel's Act III is just a tight, tight ####### album that shows off a total array of styles. "The Organization," "A Room With A View," and "Disturbing The Peace" run the gamut of pure thrash, acoustic thrash, and then funk/thrash. A truly underrated record from that year. 

Exodus's "Fabulous Disaster" was a nod to the movie Sid and Nancy and was a worthy song, however sociopolitical it was. "The Toxic Waltz," a paean to moshing, got pits going everywhere. They were the precursors to the elaborate killing fields metal shows are now. 
Totally agree on Practice what you preach.  

The Time is Coming and more appropriately for this thread The Ballad were awesome songs.  Like Exodus, they've made some pretty good records in recent years too.  Still going strong. 

I loved Fabulous disaster.  Toxic Waltz was an anthem.  I wore it and Pleasures of the Flesh out back in the day.  It would be wrong to discuss them and not mention Bonded by Blood though.  It's one of the most important and influential thrash records of all time.  Not quite Kill Em All or Reign in Blood, but right behind those two.  Plinko mentioned that this is where Metallica poached Kirk, but it's also where Slayer found Hanneman's replacement in Gary Holt.  

 
plinko said:
51. Hanoi Rocks

Most famous for - SADLY - their drummer being killed by Vince Neil, it's really too bad because they had a great story, played a lot of gigs all over the U.K and Scandinavia for a lot of years, cut some records and they had a lot of big names like Bob Ezrin and Ian Hunter behind them.  They were working on taking over over the U.S... when tragedy struck.

Would they have done it?  I don't know.  From what I've heard of their catalog, I can't say whether or not they had the hits in them.  Early on they were more New York Dolls than anything.  In any case.. they sure seem like they must have been a lot of fun.

Microfactoid: Razzle, our dearly departed Pantera passenger, was the only member of the band who wasn't Finnish.  He was a fan of the band when they moved to London, pushed himself on them to be their drummer and won the job from a guy called Gyp Casino.

Taxi Driver
Don't You Ever Leave Me
Around the Bend a cover everyone should always ask for
My favorite band at age fifteen. Razzle (drums), Mike Monroe (vocals), Sam Yaffa (bass), Andy McCoy (guitar), Nasty Suicide (guitar).

They were Finnish, and had started out as the band Pelle Miljoona Oy. They were convinced to become an English speaking act, and tried, in their own way, to conquer the English-speaking world as rock stars, and they almost did. The English as a second language hampered their songwriting a touch. You could always tell something was a little off with their familiarity with the language. For most bands, a death knell. For Hanoi, it was merely a roadblock.

Led by the best looking lead singer in drag the planet had ever seen, a lethal guitarist in Andy McCoy (who would be sought out by metalheads everywhere, begging for him to teach them rhythm guitar), and a great bassist in Sam Yaffa (who would later go on to play in the reformed aforementioned New York Dolls) they played a mixture of punk, glam, trash, and pure rock n' roll in the Chuck Berry sense. McCoy would duckwalk on stage with his Les Paul, Yaffa would keep time with his upright cool, Monroe would jump around like a seven year-old girl at gymnastics class. Their live show was dizzying, a mixture of punk rockers and metalheads, generally united in their slam dancing to "Blitzkrieg Bop" and the Stooges covers that ended their sets. 

Their first album, Bangkok Shocks Saigon Shakes Hanoi Rocks was and is my favorite from them. There are no bad tracks on the album. If not for Gyp Casino's replacement with a drum machine (it seems -- either that or the production of the snare and bass are really lacking), it'd be darn near a perfect affair, joyously sloppy, frenetically played and urgent. From the opening strains of "Tragedy," to the ludicrous ballad of "Don't Never Leave Me" (there's that English), onto the ripping "First Timer," and then through to "Pretender," Hanoi rocked their way through a set, and almost instantly conquered England, where they became located. 

After several albums were under their belt, they decided to conquer the States, and signed to CBS/Epic, moving from PVC/Jem, and they recorded an album entitled Two Steps From The Move for their new label. There were promotional videos and singles undertaken, the aforementioned "Up Around The Bend" being one of them, the newly-crafted ballad "Don't You Ever Leave Me," a re-worked version of the aforementioned "Don't Never Leave Me" another, and the band was set to tour the states, release their records, and generally live the dream. Sadly, it was never to be. Razzle got in a car with Vince Neil one night and never returned. A car wreck took his life, and Hanoi, crestfallen and unable to carry on as a band, disintegrated. You couldn't replace their drummer, they reasoned, and their careers and dreams vanished -- up in smoke.

So it's a band based in a bit of tragedy, as it were. But a lot of their stuff, if you can tolerate a bit of sloppiness in songwriting, is top notch and well worth the listen. 

And their influence loomed large.

Motley Crüe, once leather-bound, copied their look, as did all the hair metal bands around. They had been the first since the Dolls to go full drag, really, and their look and influence was felt throughout the eighties and late eighties unlike any other band. If you look closely, Axl Rose has Mike Monroe's tattoos tatted on himself. Rose would re-release all of the hard-to-find PVC/Jem stuff on his vanity label later on as Guns N' Roses got big, and never denied Hanoi's huge influence on their sound and look. Slash even borrowed Razzle's signature top hat (yes, it was the departed Razzle whose hat Slash copied down to the clamshell pattern around it). I can personally remember trying to track down those PVC/Jem records in New York down in the Village and the bigger record stores on Broadway back in the day. Thanks to very patient parents, fifteen year-old rock scoured the stores in search of a recording, a bootleg, a T shirt. These guys were larger than life to him. 

This is your intrepid cub reporter rockaction reporting for duty. Hope you enjoyed. 

 
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I forgot, I was going to mention something about Michael Monroe's appearance on The Spaghetti Incident, and maybe a link to that

Here he tells the whole story

In a recent interview with RockSverige, former HANOI ROCKS singer Michael Monroe was asked if he still gets money from his contributions to the GUNS N' ROSES songs "Ain't it Fun" (off 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident") and "Bad Obsession" (off 1991's "Use Your Illusion"). He responded: "I got a session payment for playing the saxophone and harmonica on 'Bad Obsession'. The song 'Ain't It Fun' came about when Axl [Rose, GUNS N' ROSES singer] had told me that he had not heard THE DEAD BOYS. I made him a tape of THE DEAD BOYS' first two albums and then I gave him a tape when we were in Hollywood. We were listening to the tape in his car and when the song 'Ain't It Fun' came on, he went, 'Wow! Wait a minute. I recognize this song! We've got do this as a duet. We're doing a compilation album of cover songs next.' He called Slash and said, 'Put the band together! We're doing this song.' We did it as a duet and I said, 'Could it say on the record, 'In memory of Stiv Bators (1949-1990)'?' And he said, 'Of course.' That was the first single of the album and it was a magical take and Stiv was definitely there in spirit.

"But my point was that I never wanted any money," he continued. "It was a scumbag manager I had anyway, so I didn't want to touch it. I didn't want them guys to change their minds about the song, so all I asked for what to have on the record, 'In memory of Stiv Bators,' and to spell my name right. That was all I wanted. I had heard through the grapevine that some of the old band members had gotten greedy and claimed that they wrote some of the songs that they hadn't really written."

Even though HANOI ROCKS was formed in Finland, their trashy, hedonistic, decadent hard rock/pop-metal boogie influenced many Los Angeles acts, including GUNS N' ROSES and MÖTLEY CRÜE.

Asked in a 2007 interview if he ever felt jealous of GUNS N' ROSES' commercial success, considering that GN'R openly cited HANOI ROCKS as a huge influence in the Axl Rose-fronted band's early days, Monroe said: "No, I never felt that. Not at all. I was always happy for their success and they definitely earned it themselves. I'm thankful for them recognizing the HANOI ROCKS influence and talking about it in the press."

He continued: "A lot of bands weren't really that talented and they sold a lot of records and really just deliberately tried to fake something out of it with the looks and not having much to back it up with. But GUNS N' ROSES really had their own thing and they were secure enough in themselves to quote HANOI ROCKS as an influence. Also, they released a lot of the old [HANOI ROCKS] catalog in America with their Uzi Suicide label. So they were definitely paying homage to us and they were being very cool.

"I've never been envious of their success — quite the opposite; I've been very happy for them. I was part of it. I played on their records and I was happy to be part of it. It's always fun working with those guys. Slash played the right kind of guitar because he grew up with HANOI and mine and Andy's [McCoy, HANOI ROCKS guitarist] playing. I actually did something with him for the movie 'Coneheads'."



 
plinko said:
51. Hanoi Rocks

Most famous for - SADLY - their drummer being killed by Vince Neil, it's really too bad because they had a great story, played a lot of gigs all over the U.K and Scandinavia for a lot of years, cut some records and they had a lot of big names like Bob Ezrin and Ian Hunter behind them.  They were working on taking over over the U.S... when tragedy struck.

Would they have done it?  I don't know.  From what I've heard of their catalog, I can't say whether or not they had the hits in them.  Early on they were more New York Dolls than anything.  In any case.. they sure seem like they must have been a lot of fun.

Microfactoid: Razzle, our dearly departed Pantera passenger, was the only member of the band who wasn't Finnish.  He was a fan of the band when they moved to London, pushed himself on them to be their drummer and won the job from a guy called Gyp Casino.

Taxi Driver
Don't You Ever Leave Me
Around the Bend a cover everyone should always ask for


Like these guys Michael Monroe has had a very good solo career but seems very bitter these days even to the Crue despite the fact most were very apologetic for what happened. I think Monroe's issue was always how Vince got off with a slap on the wrist but many people I talked to who know MM said it's more so he didn't understand US laws and he's lashing his anger at Crue instead of the justice system. Too this day Monroe can't even compliment Motley on the good things they did. 

Monroe did a nice set at Wacken a few yrs ago. HR came up again with Motley's Netflix The Dirt coming out which prompted new interest in the Crue and their reason for coming out of retirement. It also brought up the incident with Razzle again which I thought was nicely done in the movie and Vince's struggles with what happened. Vince has had to live with that his whole life and in some sick way for some people the tragedy of Vince's daughter Sklar dying of Cancer seemed like justice for them right or wrong 

 
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zamboni said:
Mr. Big was decent if you can get past To Be With You. Love that they named themselves after this old Free gem.

Obviously two great musicians in Gilbert and Sheehan. Lead singer Eric Martin had a modest solo career before MB. Back in the earlier MTV days, the cheesy video for  Sucker For A Pretty Face (by Eric Martin Band) got a fair amount of airplay.
 
I played the heck out of Green Tinted Sixties Mind

Cool intro by Gilbert. And I'm a sucker for harmonies.

 
plinko said:
59. Tora Tora

Memphis, TN. Surprise Attack.  I always dug this one and it has stayed in my rotation for many many years. Follow-up was OK but flopped.  This is the kind of band I felt like could have kept an upward trajectory during grunge, with a solid enough effort, but I think they lost a little something off that debut.  And another one bit the dust. They've been back around and on point, had a record just a couple years ago and it was pretty impressive.  I reckon these ol' boys can still raise a roof 

Love's A #####
Phantom Rider fn kids, they look like I remember Trixter looking

Silence the Sirens  - a quick google dive tells me this video was made by the singer's son

wiki says 

SLEAZEROXX interview with frontman Anthony Corder
Yea thought they coulda been a bluesy Tesla - no glam, straight ahead rock & 2nd album was good but very few who broke that late in the era stood a chance.

 
FairWarning said:
HSAS is a top 10 album in my collection.   They only played 2 shows (Oakland).  Some of it is posted on YouTube.  It’s obvious that Journey really held back Schon’s talents.  It’s an outstanding concert, also a few other songs that didn’t make the album is on it also.

Blue Murder - no idea why Coverdale fired John Sykes, he’s an outstanding musician.  The self titled first album is another one of my all time favs.  The record company wanted them to feature Jelly Roll (maybe the worst song) over Valley of the Kings.  VotK and Ptolemy are the best songs on the album IMO.
Oh man, Blue Murder still in my rotation & when Jelly Roll comes on I'm singin like it's a concert (until the slow down..).

Saw Sykes do an acoustic set at small club around the BM time. At 1 point he asks, "Any requests?" Few dudes yell out "Ptolemy!" He started laughing and said "On acoustic?"

 
From the New York Dolls of Helsinki to the New York Dolls of New Jersey.

50. Twisted Sister

They really did make their start aping the Dolls from across the bridge in the mid-70's, but after a few years they picked up a RAWK singer and found themselves drawn into heavy metal.

First record Under the Blade is kind of badass and raw, in the way that Too Fast is.  As good? No.  Then they really started to lean into an anthems-for-the-disaffected-youth sort of thing, and it really ####### worked in 1984, I can assure you.  Stay Hungry and MTV launched them momentarily into the stratosphere.  

So of course they, moreso than Crue, were Public Enemy #1 in the never-ending arena of the absurd, but it shouldn't need to be said that as a man Dee Snider is a better role model than 99% of the country.  And he gave a lot of kids an outlet, something to pump their fists at.

But not really me so much   :)   Album cover grossed me out and I was already a Lep guy

Burn In Hell

The Price

 
From the New York Dolls of Helsinki to the New York Dolls of New Jersey.

50. Twisted Sister

They really did make their start aping the Dolls from across the bridge in the mid-70's, but after a few years they picked up a RAWK singer and found themselves drawn into heavy metal.

First record Under the Blade is kind of badass and raw, in the way that Too Fast is.  As good? No.  Then they really started to lean into an anthems-for-the-disaffected-youth sort of thing, and it really ####### worked in 1984, I can assure you.  Stay Hungry and MTV launched them momentarily into the stratosphere.  

So of course they, moreso than Crue, were Public Enemy #1 in the never-ending arena of the absurd, but it shouldn't need to be said that as a man Dee Snider is a better role model than 99% of the country.  And he gave a lot of kids an outlet, something to pump their fists at.

But not really me so much   :)   Album cover grossed me out and I was already a Lep guy

Burn In Hell

The Price
They got a fair amount of pre-makeup MTV airplay the year before with You Can’t Stop Rock ‘N’ Roll. Thought it was interesting enough and got totally hooked with Stay Hungry. Played that cassette (yup) in 1984 more times than I can count.

 
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I loved Twisted Sister so much in junior high.  Joined the SMF fan club, had a band poster on my door, and a red sweatshirt with the Stay Hungry album cover ironed on.

 
From the New York Dolls of Helsinki to the New York Dolls of New Jersey.

50. Twisted Sister

They really did make their start aping the Dolls from across the bridge in the mid-70's, but after a few years they picked up a RAWK singer and found themselves drawn into heavy metal.

First record Under the Blade is kind of badass and raw, in the way that Too Fast is.  As good? No.  Then they really started to lean into an anthems-for-the-disaffected-youth sort of thing, and it really ####### worked in 1984, I can assure you.  Stay Hungry and MTV launched them momentarily into the stratosphere.  

So of course they, moreso than Crue, were Public Enemy #1 in the never-ending arena of the absurd, but it shouldn't need to be said that as a man Dee Snider is a better role model than 99% of the country.  And he gave a lot of kids an outlet, something to pump their fists at.

But not really me so much   :)   Album cover grossed me out and I was already a Lep guy

Burn In Hell

The Price
So much of the focus is always on Stay Hungry, but they had some amazing rock songs on the first 2 albums. The Kids are Back, You Can’t Stop Rock and Roll, Under the Blade. 
 

the “We Are Twisted F@&!ing Sister” documentary is well worth your time if you haven’t seen it. It was on netflix for a while, might be able to find it somewhere on the internet.
 

 
I feel like I probably should have put Twisted Sister higher.  Maybe the way they went out with a thud, I might have subconsciously docked them some points.

I never loved em or hated em.  Influential enough they should have been maybe 10 spots higher.. BUT.. NO REGERTS .. we're getting to the tasty stuff  

49. Enuff Z'Nuff

So these cats talk like they hate being lumped in with the hair metal now, but they were all about it in 1989.

They've hardly stopped..  lineup changes here and there, I know they have some fame as "friends" of Howard Stern but I can't say what good it has or hasn't done them.  Chip Z'Nuff, worst made up name in a scene built around terrible made up names*, runs this ship and he does it well.  But let's be real, they dropped in on a big frou frou red balloon the same way he does in this video, and they wanted to take over.  

I thought the Beatley/Cheap-Tricky vibe was a welcome tone.  Thoroughly enjoyed.  Points for continuing to work hard and grow as a band, which they appear to do.. 

Hot Little Summer Girl best track hands down if you're asking me

The World Is A Gutter - banger (for them)  
Strength ballad that's decent

*probably not true but deduction for naming your band after your fake name 

 
48. Dangerous Toys

Not a ton to say about these guys, no good gossip that I can recall, they were from the same area I went to high school, Temple/Killeen, so they were kind of a big deal locally, so-and-so knew a guy who knew the bassist, etc.  Another 1989er who followed up with a not-as-good / not-as-raw / not-as-hungry sophomore fizzler.  Get yer Texas sleaze though

Scared

Feel Like Makin Love When a badco cover is the best song on your 2nd record, it's time to think about finding the exit..

 
48. Dangerous Toys

Not a ton to say about these guys, no good gossip that I can recall, they were from the same area I went to high school, Temple/Killeen, so they were kind of a big deal locally, so-and-so knew a guy who knew the bassist, etc.  Another 1989er who followed up with a not-as-good / not-as-raw / not-as-hungry sophomore fizzler.  Get yer Texas sleaze though

Scared

Feel Like Makin Love When a badco cover is the best song on your 2nd record, it's time to think about finding the exit..
Really missed out on these guys originally, even though i saw them live on the Operation Rock and Roll tour. (Priest, Alice Cooper, Motohead, Metal Church, Dangerous Toys) Got into them years later and can’t believe I wasn’t much more into them in the 90’s. 

 
48. Dangerous Toys

Not a ton to say about these guys, no good gossip that I can recall, they were from the same area I went to high school, Temple/Killeen, so they were kind of a big deal locally, so-and-so knew a guy who knew the bassist, etc.  Another 1989er who followed up with a not-as-good / not-as-raw / not-as-hungry sophomore fizzler.  Get yer Texas sleaze though

Scared

Feel Like Makin Love When a badco cover is the best song on your 2nd record, it's time to think about finding the exit..
Saw these guys play a lot in Houston in the early 90's. Always thought they were a local act. Never expected to see them here. Do we get some  :deadhorse:  next?

 
From the New York Dolls of Helsinki to the New York Dolls of New Jersey.

50. Twisted Sister

They really did make their start aping the Dolls from across the bridge in the mid-70's, but after a few years they picked up a RAWK singer and found themselves drawn into heavy metal.

First record Under the Blade is kind of badass and raw, in the way that Too Fast is.  As good? No.  Then they really started to lean into an anthems-for-the-disaffected-youth sort of thing, and it really ####### worked in 1984, I can assure you.  Stay Hungry and MTV launched them momentarily into the stratosphere.  

So of course they, moreso than Crue, were Public Enemy #1 in the never-ending arena of the absurd, but it shouldn't need to be said that as a man Dee Snider is a better role model than 99% of the country.  And he gave a lot of kids an outlet, something to pump their fists at.

But not really me so much   :)   Album cover grossed me out and I was already a Lep guy

Burn In Hell

The Price


I'm curious your top 10 if TS is only 50 seems low for them. They were in the PMRC thing and Dee gave one of the best speeches during the congressional hearings and made congress look silly. Think what he said about Congress then still holds true today. The short audited version is Congress thought he wasn't a smart guy and he surprised them with how intelligent and thought out his responses were. Also he saw them nothing more then a bunch of rag tag elitist who only cared about themselves and not the people who voted for them. I wish I was around during this time. I've been Known to troll Conservative Christian and SJW WOKE Facebook groups and sites putting links up to Twisted Sister videos and W.A.S.P F Like a Beast and other goodies that people would be triggered by. Add me to the SMFers 

Dee did We're not Gonna Take it Piano version as a tribute to cancer patience. He's a heck of a guy and person too. Sucks what happened to AJ Perro. If you haven't Seen A Twisted Christmas Concert from years back at their Vegas Residency it's a treat. The fact he blends the comedy in so well with the actual music is insane. Hot Love is a very underrated Tune btw. Stay Hungry an Awesome Album and their Christmas album is pretty good and a riot at the same time. Twisted sister is one of the bands if you asked Little DJACK who his favorite bands were at 10 he'd tell you I WANT TO ROCK!!!!!!!!!! 

 
So much of the focus is always on Stay Hungry, but they had some amazing rock songs on the first 2 albums. The Kids are Back, You Can’t Stop Rock and Roll, Under the Blade. 
 

the “We Are Twisted F@&!ing Sister” documentary is well worth your time if you haven’t seen it. It was on netflix for a while, might be able to find it somewhere on the internet.
 


Very good doc. Saw it when it first came out. The amount of respect I have for Dee in the industry and as a person can't be underestimated. Doc was cool and I loved how he talked how involved his wife is with the band making the costumes and doing make up and all. Thank you Mrs Snider for all that you have contributed 

 
I feel like I probably should have put Twisted Sister higher.  Maybe the way they went out with a thud, I might have subconsciously docked them some points.

I never loved em or hated em.  Influential enough they should have been maybe 10 spots higher.. BUT.. NO REGERTS .. we're getting to the tasty stuff  

49. Enuff Z'Nuff

So these cats talk like they hate being lumped in with the hair metal now, but they were all about it in 1989.

They've hardly stopped..  lineup changes here and there, I know they have some fame as "friends" of Howard Stern but I can't say what good it has or hasn't done them.  Chip Z'Nuff, worst made up name in a scene built around terrible made up names*, runs this ship and he does it well.  But let's be real, they dropped in on a big frou frou red balloon the same way he does in this video, and they wanted to take over.  

I thought the Beatley/Cheap-Tricky vibe was a welcome tone.  Thoroughly enjoyed.  Points for continuing to work hard and grow as a band, which they appear to do.. 

Hot Little Summer Girl best track hands down if you're asking me

The World Is A Gutter - banger (for them)  
Strength ballad that's decent

*probably not true but deduction for naming your band after your fake name 


Never a huge fan Fly high Michelle was their biggest hit. Definitely would've put TS over these guys 

 
48. Dangerous Toys

Not a ton to say about these guys, no good gossip that I can recall, they were from the same area I went to high school, Temple/Killeen, so they were kind of a big deal locally, so-and-so knew a guy who knew the bassist, etc.  Another 1989er who followed up with a not-as-good / not-as-raw / not-as-hungry sophomore fizzler.  Get yer Texas sleaze though

Scared

Feel Like Makin Love When a badco cover is the best song on your 2nd record, it's time to think about finding the exit..


Never was too into them but they are nice nostalgia group They have a live album too which is good. Incase you guys haven't noticed DJACK likes the live albums 

 
So much of the focus is always on Stay Hungry, but they had some amazing rock songs on the first 2 albums. The Kids are Back, You Can’t Stop Rock and Roll, Under the Blade. 
 

the “We Are Twisted F@&!ing Sister” documentary is well worth your time if you haven’t seen it. It was on netflix for a while, might be able to find it somewhere on the internet.
 
Was never a big fan of TS.   Didn’t really like their sound.   It seems thin.   That being said, there are some good tunes on the first two albums and they are not the ones that were overplayed.   

 
48. Dangerous Toys

Not a ton to say about these guys, no good gossip that I can recall, they were from the same area I went to high school, Temple/Killeen, so they were kind of a big deal locally, so-and-so knew a guy who knew the bassist, etc.  Another 1989er who followed up with a not-as-good / not-as-raw / not-as-hungry sophomore fizzler.  Get yer Texas sleaze though

Scared

Feel Like Makin Love When a badco cover is the best song on your 2nd record, it's time to think about finding the exit..
Liked this band but the ranking seems off.   Should be in the 70s, not 40s since they were rather small-time.  

 
Liked this band but the ranking seems off.   Should be in the 70s, not 40s since they were rather small-time.  


I don't think you're wrong, my idea was to get to this point where we're taking a full swing at the real, most popular hair stuff, but that is of course all relative/objective etc.  When I'm finished, maybe we can just take this whole quadrant and flip it with the last one, because I definitely don't think we'll get as many fans with a lot of these next ten in particular, we're really buckling in for the hairiest of the hair without crossing into the legends just yet.

On that note, here come a lot of great breakouts and fizzled-out follow-ups.  It was not the audience's fault.  It was not Kurt Cobain's fault.  Not really even the labels' faults.  It was disappointing sophomore/subsequent efforts abound.  

47. Junkyard

Speaking of labels, Geffen, so they were definitely bound to get ####ed at some point.  This wasn't Salty Dog though, these dudes were L.A. stalwarts.  

Their debut album had Skynyrd all over it, frankly, but it was rife with bangers.  

This article is a hot mess but the ensuing interview with eternally-drunk-ala-Lemmy, singer David Roach is great.
(There's those Black Crowes, opening for Junkyard.. )

DAVID ROACH:  I’m not a writer/ wordsmith, like yourself. I was born in Dallas, 1965. My father was gay. He died of AIDS when we were recording our first album. I didn’t talk about it then ‘cos the rock scene was very homophobic. That was fuelled by Axl and Sebastian Bach and the like.  

Dad moved to Austin, a sanctuary for gays in Texas (see Gary Floyd from the ##### and Biscuit from the Big Boys, two men who encouraged me to pursue my dreams when I started my first band, the Pagans, we broke up when the East coast biker gang of the same name suggested we change our name.

My mom and siblings followed soon after.  

Mom was my biggest influencer. 

She gave me a chronological history of rock ‘n’ roll. She started with Hank Williams. We’d go to Goodwill and I’d pour over the 45’s looking for Elvis singles. I loved the 50’s stuff. Elvis, Drifters, Platters, Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, all of it.  

Then, she introduced to the Beatles and Stones and the 60’s garage stuff, 13th Floor Elevators, Doug Sahm... 

Our home in Austin was right up the street from the Armadillo World Headquarters where later I saw Devo, Taj Mahal, BOC, the outlaw country guys, and many others. The Bandidos MC sold acid in the parking lot. My introduction to the finer things in life. 

Austin obviously is a Mecca for live music and mom spoiled me, taking me to Antone’s to see Bobby Womack, Gatemouth Brown and others. 

My good friend, Nick Ferrari and his sister moved from Lubbock and opened a hole in the wall called the AusTex Lounge. Stevie Ray Vaughan was in tow and he had a standing gig Tuesday nights with Double Trouble and Lou Ann Barton. 

Across the street, a few years later, at the Continental Club, Little Charlie Sexton and the Eager Beaver Boys had a residency. Also, the Austin punk scene flourished and I saw everyone, as punk was a tight knit community that depended on each other from town to town through pay phones and offers of couches and floors. Needless to say my exposure to live music and the lifestyle was priceless. 

I think these influences are why Junkyard is kind of a round peg, square hole band. 

I’m sorry this is rambling and incoherent and it’s gonna take some time.  Let me know if I’m saying too much and I need be more brief. 
I’m a drunk by trade so apologize if I repeat myself from question to question, well, you’re a writer so you deal and edit. Fortunately and unfortunately, Top Jimmy took me under his wing when I first moved to LA. 

I think one  of my favorite 80’s experiences in Hollywood was when my roommate, Nick Ferrari talked Len Fagen at the Coconut Teaszer into starting the Monday night Eyetalian Sportscars jam night. He and and Jonny Hell and Fritz Friedman were the house band and they’d start the evening off with some Link Wray or something instrumental. Then it was an open mic event. It started with a whimper, but a few months in, everyone wanted to  be on stage. Bobby Durango, Joe Ely, Mitch Mitchell, the guys from Blondie, a who’s who that transcended genres. An ideal Nick understood, cos in the end, it’s only rock ‘n’ roll and I like it. Other than that, Dayle Gloria and Michael Stewart (our former managers) did the Scream, another cool gig, as I’m sure you know, cos genre didn’t matter. You could have rockabilly on one floor, goth on the next and punk or rock ‘n’ roll on the third and 1200 people got along and enjoyed it all.


Pat and Todd grew up in the same neighborhood in Monrovia. Their tales of life in so Cal in the late ‘70s inspired a JY demo (never released) called “Pasadena Kegger” about how they went to those backyard Van Halen house parties back then. ( I got a decent David Lee Roth story for later).

They went on to play together in SC punk bands , Atom Bombs, America’s Hardcore, and  Decry, Shanghai. They both take credit for showing Izzy Stradlin how to dress when he got off the boat from Indiana with Bill Bailey or whatever his name was. 

Tim Mosher grew up in DC same time Brian Baker did but they weren’t friends til Hollywood. His band, Broken Glass, played shows with us a lot early on. Tim has been writing with Junkyard since ‘91 and he and Baker still collaborate with new Yard songs.  Hard to call him a new member. 

Jimmy James is ####### Jimmy James. He came from Florida with Bobby Durango (a lovely gentleman, R.I.P.) and the Rock City Angels. He’s played with everyone and now with us the last five years and also currently with the Hangmen, another band we came up with in the east of west Hollywood scene. 

I’m David, from Austin Tx, I had bad punk and garage bands and moved to LA when I was 20.
The book that changed my world view, (probably in a negative way) that I’ve probably read five times is "Confederacy of Dunces" by John Kennedy Toole. He received a Pulitzer Prize for this post mortem. Great  story about that in the forward.  He also wrote "Neon Bible" when he was 16, another great read. Currently readin' Peter Frampton’s autobiography. More interesting than I gave him credit for. 

You can’t dismiss people like book covers. 

I’ve recently been chatting with Tracii Guns, who was someone I dismissed, errantly. 

I told him as much and he asked if it was the lipstick. 

I said yes, that and the Lip Service gear. 

Don’t ever hand me a line like: ”I can barely use a computer or iPhone…” it’s disrespectful to people with real issues dealing with this brave new world, like me. 

This morning I tried to check my checking balance, couldn’t remember my password.  

Then I got a royalty statement from BMI ( probably $23.47) 

Couldn’t remember password. Now I can’t find your questions again… 

I think it was, what’s next for Junkyard type stuff, but I feel like I missed something. 
I’m proud of "Blooze". I was 20 and wrote it in 10 minutes. It came pouring out cos I knew the subject. When you write, the longer it takes the more you can’t see the forest for the trees. 

I’m proud of "The River", "Styrofoam Cup", and "Wallet".

I don’t play guitar, so I had to hum the guitar part to Tim. 

I’m also proud of "Hands Off". We just moved to LA and Nick Ferrari of the Little Kings was my mentor, along with Top Jimmy. Nick also mentored Stevie Ray and collaborated with Stiv Bators (good company huh?) 

Chris Gates came up with the riff and Nick says “that’s too pretty, y’all need some ugly lyrics , like, get your hands off my throat” 

Magic, as I had girlfriend when I was 16, she was 24 with a young daughter and we lived together three years. One-night, long story, I woke up and she was choking me. So again, if you live it , it’s easier to write it. 

A couple of years ago I reunited with Lori’s daughter at a gig in Portland. She was married with three kids. 

I learned Lori had moved to Costa Rica six years prior.  She had opened a diner with the aim to start a spiced rum business.  She had a neighbor that didn’t like her and he broke in one night and beat her into a coma.

She died three days later. 

It was hard to sing that song afterwards. I did it in London where my sister lives and we both cried in front of everyone. 

Lori was hurt by that song but it’s a fan favorite so I do it.  
He never tells the David Lee Roth story..

Blooze

Hands Off

 
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 Hot Love is a very underrated Tune btw.
A thousand times this. I still listen to this tune on the reg, it's my favorite TS song, and at one time in my pre-adolescence, they were tied with AC/DC in "favorite band" status. Putting on the TS greatest hits cd at a house party was a great way to get things energized. 

 
I don't think you're wrong, my idea was to get to this point where we're taking a full swing at the real, most popular hair stuff, but that is of course all relative/objective etc.  When I'm finished, maybe we can just take this whole quadrant and flip it with the last one, because I definitely don't think we'll get as many fans with a lot of these next ten in particular, we're really buckling in for the hairiest of the hair without crossing into the legends just yet.

On that note, here come a lot of great breakouts and fizzled-out follow-ups.  It was not the audience's fault.  It was not Kurt Cobain's fault.  Not really even the labels' faults.  It was disappointing sophomore/subsequent efforts abound.  

47. Junkyard

Speaking of labels, Geffen, so they were definitely bound to get ####ed at some point.  This wasn't Salty Dog though, these dudes were L.A. stalwarts.  

Their debut album had Skynyrd all over it, frankly, but it was rife with bangers.  

This article is a hot mess but the ensuing interview with eternally-drunk-ala-Lemmy, singer David Roach is great.
(There's those Black Crowes, opening for Junkyard.. )

He never tells the David Lee Roth story..

Blooze

Hands Off
I had a CD from them called Sixes, Sevens, and Nines.  I really liked a song called Misery Loves Company - very Great White sound to it.

I hadn't thought of them even once for 30 years.

 
SMOOTH UP IN YA

Everybody who was shaking their fists at mom and dad in 1984 was now ready to #### in 1988

46. BulletBoys

Marq Torien... HERE IS A REAL GEM

Even earlier than that, he had been a guitarist and auditioneed for Ozzy--
This is from a blog post concerning Rudy Sarzo's book (which I now want to read)

One guy that was really wild to read about was Marq Torien. Who is Marq Torien you ask? In the late ’80s Torien was the lead singer of the Bullet Boys but back in 82 Marq played at an audition with Ozzy and impressed Oz so he sent Torien to Sarzo and Aldridge who jammed with him and in no time told Ozzy there was no way Torien could play or handle the Rhoads stuff.

Clearer minds prevailed.


So they were seasoned pros, cashing in for sure, they made just about a perfect glam metal single with Smooth Up but really that whole record was good.  I feel like I remember the critics liking their '91 follow up, but I couldn't get into it.  Hang On St. Christopher is pretty cool.

For The Love Of Money a cover you can take to the bank, brohans

 
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SMOOTH UP IN YA

Everybody who was shaking their fists at mom and dad in 1984 was now ready to #### in 1988

46. BulletBoys

Marq Torien... HERE IS A REAL GEM Even earlier than that, he had been a guitarist and auditioneed for Ozzy--
This is from a blog post concerning Rudy Sarzo's book (which I now want to read)

So they were seasoned pros, cashing in for sure, they made just about a perfect glam metal single with Smooth Up but really that whole record was good.  I feel like I remember the critics liking their '91 follow up, but I couldn't get into it.  Hang On St. Christopher is pretty cool.

For The Love Of Money a cover you can take to the bank
The Bulletboys were a fun band that had some good tunes.  Smooth Up is still a rocking song.  The sweet thing about the Bulletboys and most of the hair bands is that you never really had to wonder about the meaning of the lyrics. You just turned up the stereo and had fun.  

 
Now we are talking. I’ve always loved these last two bands. Odd interview with Junkyard but pretty interesting nonetheless.

This has been an awesome walk down memory lane. Keep em coming!

 

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