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Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era - it's still real to me (2 Viewers)

98. King Diamond / Mercyful Fate

Copenhagen's third or fourth finest.  Former punks/ thrash metal genre shapers.  PMRC Bad List credibility.  Homey walks the talk and is a real life Satanist too.. although in these less mysterious times we've all figured out that really just means an atheist with a grudge.

I don't love the screaming, and we'll have a bit more of that soon, but all in all not too much.

KD would always pop up late on Headbangers Ball.  15 year old me found the music a little out of reach and I'd mostly just roll my eyes at the shtick.  But I cannot deny the man his place in history.

Melissa
Abigail

Welcome home Grandma

Slumming it with some stans

Fans of "real" metal aren't gonna like that I drop in bands like this behind the Wingers of the world, but I guess that's how the cookies crumble in the mostly-hair-metal ranking biz


King Diamond was my last Concert pre pandemic. Saw them a few days at the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby PA right on the boarder of West Philly. First time they played that venue in 20 or so yrs. Went with a coworker groupon tickets for like $20. Ended up running into a college Metal buddy who was also friends with my coworkers really good friend. Ended up meeting Jodi who plays Grandma and is from the Philly area got a pic and she signed a napkin at the bar for me. Cool chick. outside the bar which is across the street from the venue we met Andy LaRocque King's Guitar player. Awesome guy. I'll admit I was never a huge King/Mercyful fate fan but after that night I'm a fan. Won't play them repeat but if someone said come to a King or Merciful fate Show I'm down. One of the most fun nights I had attending a concert too. 

 
Like a lot of these bands, I didn't get a good listen until later on. Metallica's 11 minute cover on Garage, Inc. had me flocking to Half Price Books to pick up super cheap King Diamond/Mercyful Fate CDs. Thanks Lars!!


That was ironically enough one of my first tastes of them was From Metallica's cover on that album. I knew King Diamond was and MercyFul Fate were but never knew the music really. 

 
96. Vixen

Sadly there were more guys with fake girl names than there were actual girls in this scene.  Vixen were pretty lame, but they were all woman and they wore it well.

Fascinating facts about Vixen: 
They're from Minnesota like Prince and the Hold Steady
Richard Marx cowrote and produced their biggest stuff
Their lineup has been a revolving door and none of the classic lineup are still in the band.  Founder Jan Kuehnemund has passed.  T&P
Current singer Lorraine Lewis fronted another 80's glam metal group, Femme Fatale.  They were just plain bad and belong nowhere near this list.

Edge of a Broken Heart

Three more lady-led acts on the list.  Can't see myself adding more.  No Joan, no Great Kat


Vixen is a guilty pleasure 

I also love Joan Jett. The Talent agent I know I talked about earlier first met her when she was dating Carmen Elektra. People have always wondered if Joan was gay or not however she did have Girilfriends. Not sure how many Boyfriends she had or dated but she had them. Always fascinated me how people were obsessed what she was or wasn't. She was born at Lankenaul Hospital about 20 mins from me near St Joseph University Campus. She however grew up in Long Island where my buddy the talent scout is from 

 
You have absolutely got to be kidding me. I'm not going to binge an eight-part series, but I'll definitely try and find the spoilers. Thanks. 


TTLTR version is that the CIA wrote it and gave it to the Scorpions who I believe got paid handsomely to not say a word and credit as their own work. It's in the whole thing of UFOs and JFK genre if you are interested. However to me the conspiracy on this one I just don't think ever checks out because someone by now would've spilled the beans already. 

 
91. Helloween

German band still huge in Germany

I find it mildly interesting that these guys and their doppelgangers Queensrÿche were happening at the same time on different sides of the world.  The Queensrÿche of Europe?  Sure.

The Keeper of the Seven Keys 1 & 2 records are juicy through and through.

I Want Out

Future World


I got into these guys maybe 10 yrs ago Kiske and Dirse along with Kai finally reunited. Kai and Kiske were the original singer and Guitar backing vocals. Their DVD/Live ALbum Pumpkin Heads United is amazing and their one concert at Wacken awhile back is on Youtube great joy. 

 
77. Loudness

Japanese act, originally called Lazy.  I remember these guys touring with Crue, when I wasn't quite old enough to go to shows, but was beginning to pine.

Guitarist rules.  

I always enjoyed Thunder In The East, but honestly their purest and best record is 1983's The Law of Devil's Land.  The vocals at least on the streaming versions are still mostly in their native tongue ... ETA the version on ####racket Spotify isn't even under Loudness, but (loudness) <_<  

In The Mirror  

In The Mirror - Japanese

Never Change Your Mind  

Crazy Nights  
 


Loudness very underrated band Akira Takasaki is a very underrated. They tried to Americanize the band with an American singer to become more popular in the states but it never worked out well. Crazy Nights gets stuck in my head ones in awhile. They have made 27 studio albums as of 2018 and still touring btw 

 
73. Warlock / Doro

Hot

All We Are

Our second pull from Das Land der Dichter und Denker..  We'll see another very soon.. and then a break mein freunde until top 15
 


I saw Warlock video I think Burning witches on a repeat headbangers VH1 Classic use to do back in the early/mid 2000s when I was getting into this scene. If I was an 80s teen Doro Pesch would have no issue getting me through puberty. 😍

 
XYZ was underrated loved the first album. PBF I really liked for late era glam and Danger Danger are underrated but would've been a bigger success had they come out a lot earlier (I think this last part could apply to many of the later bands)

Firehouse I love and another if they came out sooner would've been bigger. Also CJ Snare has a gosh darn great voice and going strong 

Also Nugent is a gosh darn clown and probably the most overrated guitar player ever. Know a guy who's a talent buyer who met Nugent back in the late 80s. One of the worst acts he had to work with he said. He told me he'd refuse to work with anyone who'd try and hire him after he caught Nugent sexually harassing a 17 yrs old working and the promoter didn't seem to give a dam. Said something to him himself and Ted asked him what his problem was? Told he would've punched Ted if it wasn't for people separating the 2 of them. Ted was completely bombed so he said he'd have most likely knocked him out cold if it did happen. 

Anyway thats my only Ted Nugent rant and honestly this guy doesn't even deserve a rant. He just sucks as a person in general too. 
I do like a lot of Ted’s music.  His biggest problem is Ted Nugent and the rock star lifestyle vs the guy making music.

 
Doro clocks in at 73? 

I swear, if Vain, Cats In Boots, and Spread Eagle didn't make this list and all those Scandinavian/German weird not-so-glam rockers do, you're gonna have to answer for that. 

I spent most of the fall of '89 listening to all of them. 

:bag:


Reverse Euro Snob!

 
Reverse Euro Snob!
Totes, and I don't mind it one bit. Rock and roll and any blues-based or jump blues-based music is as American as apple pie, and I don't mind being provincial about it. The Brits get it. Continental Europe rarely did. Scandinavia (Finland, precisely) gave us one notable glam/MTV-era heavy metal band I can think of, the rest were lacking. Scandinavia does death metal and uber heavy metal proud, though. I'll give them that. 

 
And I'm not really that provincial nor contentious, really. I'd just been silent a few days and wanted to let plinko know I was still following, still reading. 

 
Of all the bands mentioned so far, I think I only recall 5 from the period being covered here - Autograph, Cheap Trick, Vixen, Nelson & Krokus. If I kinda/sorta recognize some of the others, I'm sure it's been because of music threads here over the years.

The Autograph hit was everywhere and even I wasn't immune to hearing it. Same with Vixen and Nelson.

Cheap Trick was all over the radio when I was in high school in the late '70s. All of the jocks listened to them.

I knew Krokus by name, but have no idea what context I would have heard them in since I wasn't diving deep into this music at the time.

Seems like I knew Ugly Joe Kid's name, too, but that could be one that I first heard here years ago. 

 
bigbottom said:
yeah, I only got here in 2001, so most of those are unknown to me. As for Sara, I am NOT a fan. A story for another day, but it’s personal. Said I’d never play Fitz’s again about a year or so before it closed. 
I get it. She got pretty angry, nutty, racist, etc. in the latter years.

 
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71. Badlands

Very much a personal favorite, and taking us into a little Zeppelin-wannabe twofer.  Sad and frustrating (for me and potentially no one else) that this is no longer streaming anywhere.

I don't know why that is, not ambitious enough to dig that deep into the googlesphere.

I invite you to read this guy's blog post and check out the album.  

Wikipedia on what brought Jake E Lee from Ozzy to Badlands

Singer Ray Gillen recorded The Eternal Idol with Black Sabbath in the mid-80's before being replaced with somebody else, during their whole mess.  Bounced around for a few years and ended up doing this project with Jake E. Lee.  Their follow-up was OK but really I'm all about the self-titled debut.  Who knows what their future might have been but SADLY.. and we say this too much around here.. Ray died in 1993 (of HIV related illness)

Winter's Call
I still play the first Badlands album Frequently.   It has held up pretty well due to a strong bluesy feel.  For the record, I still listen to a ton of 80s metal that has not held up well and don’t care.  

 
plinko said:
One more before a weekend break!  We'll pick up with 69 and maybe Doro will join us.

70. Kingdom Come

Almost feels cliche to say, when I heard this on the local rock radio station, it was a natural assumption for 16 year old me that it was a Zeppelin song I had never heard, there will still a few of those.  So as far as the single track that sounds the most Zeppy, these guys still hold the belt, sorry Greta Von Fleak

Besides that, it's hard to believe, thinking back, I heard something on central TX rock radio before I saw it on MTV but radio still did its job from time to time.. 

I picked up the tape, and it wasn't even the worst tape I bought that day.

Get It On - live!

The ballad: What Love Can Be  not particularly LZ, or particularly great either 

Kingdom Come opened Van Halen's 1988 Monsters of Rock tour.  Check out the NYT article posted here on Van Halen's website, in which the reviewer trashes the Scorpions

Their next album was called Kingdom Come In Your Face.  It was a load.
Kingdom Come were great Zep wanna-be’s.  They had some good tunes and the singer could sing.  I caught the Monsters of a Rock tour and it is still one of my favorite concerts ever attended.   I was a bunch of friends on a hot summer day to see a bunch of great bands.  

Kingdom Come sounded great and held their own.  Metallica stole the show and the crowd went nuts for them.   The Scorpions are a great band but were almost too polished.   A few of us got bored with their set about halfway through.   They were good live but didn’t have that raw edge that feeds fans live.   Dokken was sloppy as they often were live but had that raw energy necessary to entertain most young metal heads.  

 
Kingdom Come were great Zep wanna-be’s.  They had some good tunes and the singer could sing.  I caught the Monsters of a Rock tour and it is still one of my favorite concerts ever attended.   I was a bunch of friends on a hot summer day to see a bunch of great bands.  

Kingdom Come sounded great and held their own.  Metallica stole the show and the crowd went nuts for them.   The Scorpions are a great band but were almost too polished.   A few of us got bored with their set about halfway through.   They were good live but didn’t have that raw edge that feeds fans live.   Dokken was sloppy as they often were live but had that raw energy necessary to entertain most young metal heads.  
Saw that tour in Philly at the old JFK. You pretty much nailed the recap.

 
Kingdom Come were great Zep wanna-be’s.  They had some good tunes and the singer could sing.  I caught the Monsters of a Rock tour and it is still one of my favorite concerts ever attended.   I was a bunch of friends on a hot summer day to see a bunch of great bands.  

Kingdom Come sounded great and held their own.  Metallica stole the show and the crowd went nuts for them.   The Scorpions are a great band but were almost too polished.   A few of us got bored with their set about halfway through.   They were good live but didn’t have that raw edge that feeds fans live.   Dokken was sloppy as they often were live but had that raw energy necessary to entertain most young metal heads.  
I saw Dokken at a crap venue six or so months ago and Don was about the saddest thing I’ve ever seen on stage. He literally sat down on the drum riser for about 5-10 minutes in the middle of the set. He couldn’t sing a lick either. 

 
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I saw Dokken at a crap venue six or so months ago and Don was about the saddest thing I’ve ever seen on stage. He literally sat down on the drum riser for about 5-10 minutes in the middle of the set. He couldn’t sing a lick either. 
That sounds awful.   I know people like Don Dokken and bands like Dokken continue for the money but they have to know they are horrible.  I don’t know how their ego allows them to continue.   The money can’t be that good. 

 
That sounds awful.   I know people like Don Dokken and bands like Dokken continue for the money but they have to know they are horrible.  I don’t know how their ego allows them to continue.   The money can’t be that good. 
Their guitar player is pretty good. But he’s not Lynch and Don is just old and tired. Piece of trivia - Dokken’s guitar player is also Don and the band’s lawyer. Not kidding. 

 
I caught the Monsters of a Rock tour and it is still one of my favorite concerts ever attended.   I was a bunch of friends on a hot summer day to see a bunch of great bands.  

Kingdom Come sounded great and held their own.  Metallica stole the show and the crowd went nuts for them.   The Scorpions are a great band but were almost too polished.   A few of us got bored with their set about halfway through.   They were good live but didn’t have that raw edge that feeds fans live.   Dokken was sloppy as they often were live but had that raw energy necessary to entertain most young metal heads.  
Agree with this, though wasn't Van Halen headlining? Saw this at the Meadowlands and IIRC VH was on this bill and it was great. 
 

 
Agree with this, though wasn't Van Halen headlining? Saw this at the Meadowlands and IIRC VH was on this bill and it was great. 
 
VH was headlining and was solid.   Many of fans were probably like me and still not quite sold on Sammy joining VH.   It was not quite the same and never really was in my humble opinion.  Eddie was always VH to me and was worth seeing no matter who fronted the band.  

 
We're a little early on this convo but it all floats.. I've been a sucker for Dokken AND Lynch's studio output, even well past their relevancy, and even the crummiest of Dokken discs seem to have at least a couple good tracks..

Don's solo album Solitary from 2008 is .. something..  pretty chillaxing .. and their latest album as a group, Broken Bones was good too.  That was almost ten years ago, it's out of print and not streaming (I'd be happy to google drive it)  and I'm not sure what he's up to lately.  I had always heard that he sucks live.  I like Beast from the East though :shrug:   

Saw George open for Yngwie once, but I never saw Don play 

 
I wasn't sure I'd have time and/or energy to put into write-ups this weekend but who am I kidding, we're in ####### lockdown again plus it's cold as balls.

In a couple of picks I'm going to make a bit of an unconventional move but whatever, it's just me being a tightass with myself.

But first..

69. Dirty Looks

Before we get any farther YES he's dead, dammit, RIP Henrik   🍻

Erie PA representing.  Cool From The Wire and Turn Of The Screw were loaded with good stuff if you ask me.  Nothing super new here, very AC/DC.

Oh Ruby

Turn of the Screw - love this whole album still! 

 
We're a little early on this convo but it all floats.. I've been a sucker for Dokken AND Lynch's studio output, even well past their relevancy, and even the crummiest of Dokken discs seem to have at least a couple good tracks..

Don's solo album Solitary from 2008 is .. something..  pretty chillaxing .. and their latest album as a group, Broken Bones was good too.  That was almost ten years ago, it's out of print and not streaming (I'd be happy to google drive it)  and I'm not sure what he's up to lately.  I had always heard that he sucks live.  I like Beast from the East though :shrug:   

Saw George open for Yngwie once, but I never saw Don play 
Take a listen for yourself.  This was from the show I saw this past August. 

 
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FairWarning said:
I do like a lot of Ted’s music.  His biggest problem is Ted Nugent and the rock star lifestyle vs the guy making music.


Honestly never liked anything he did. Just never got it I guess and numerious musicians tell me his stuff is some of the easiest guitar stuff to ever learn. Nothing really earth shattering.  This was well before he gave his opinion on stuff too

 
VH was headlining and was solid.   Many of fans were probably like me and still not quite sold on Sammy joining VH.   It was not quite the same and never really was in my humble opinion.  Eddie was always VH to me and was worth seeing no matter who fronted the band.  


Really wish I saw VH when I had the chance 6 or so yrs ago. One of my coworkers went but I remember tickets being outrageously expensive. Only I guy I knew who might go wasn't a big enough fan I could talk into dropping that kind of $$$$ for. Wish I just went though. 

 
I wasn't sure I'd have time and/or energy to put into write-ups this weekend but who am I kidding, we're in ####### lockdown again plus it's cold as balls.

In a couple of picks I'm going to make a bit of an unconventional move but whatever, it's just me being a tightass with myself.

But first..

69. Dirty Looks

Before we get any farther YES he's dead, dammit, RIP Henrik   🍻

Erie PA representing.  Cool From The Wire and Turn Of The Screw were loaded with good stuff if you ask me.  Nothing super new here, very AC/DC.

Oh Ruby

Turn of the Screw - love this whole album still! 
Still a big fan of Dirty Looks.   Cool from the Wire is great from beginning to end and I listen to it often when working out.  

 
GOING OFF THE RESERVATION HERE FOLKS 

68. Diamond Head / Riot / Tygers of Pan Tang

A trifecta of acts who imploded right when things were about to get rolling.

Wherein we also discuss the new wave of British heavy meal (NWOBHM) and record label dramarama.

Technically the pick is meant to be Diamond Head, but TECHNICALLY none of these bands really qualify very well according to my own requirements ( MTV ERA )

But they just barely kind of qualify.  They were making records, in some form and at some point in the MTV heyday, and you'd see an old crusty video by these guys here and there, later on, when Headbangers Ball was really firing.

Still, they were gone as the functional outfits that we recognize these days.  But why not, this stuff is gold.

I won't bother overusing or worse yet mansplaining the annoying acronym NWOBHM too much, beyond.. there was a glut of English metal bands in the late 70s and early 80s, following in the wake of Sabbath, some are in our top ten, and some fell by the wayside.  

Diamond Head, most famous now for being one of Metallica/Lars's faves.  They have some legit great stuff.  Much of which was covered by Metallica.  Kind of more earnest, glammy vocals than what you might expect.  Done in by lack of label support, ripped off by management.

Am I Evil?
In The Heat Of The Night

Another English act, and in a similar fashion to Diamond Head, they seemed to have been done in by the same kind of business trouble.  Tygers of Pan Tang's record Spellbound is another great slice of that sound.

Gangland

Zam's mention of Riot had me rethink my approach because they're in the same boat as Diamond Head.  Really 81 was their year, Fire Down Under is a classic, and in MTV's birth year too.  Done in again by label drama, their singer left to get married and settle down. They tried rebooting but it was too little too late, the next frontman didn't work out and then another band came along and pretty much took ownership of their name for a while..  

Outlaw

 
Tygers of Pan Tang's record Spellbound is another great slice of that sound.

Gangland

Zam's mention of Riot had me rethink my approach because they're in the same boat as Diamond Head.  
👍

Great call on Tigers’ Spellbound album - a classic of the genre and very critically acclaimed. John Sykes crushes on it. Also a great album cover.

 
IIRC Lynch claims he lost the Ozzy gig to Jake E Lee because Lee had better hair. Does anyone else remember hearing that?

🤘Badlands!

 
Really wish I saw VH when I had the chance 6 or so yrs ago. One of my coworkers went but I remember tickets being outrageously expensive. Only I guy I knew who might go wasn't a big enough fan I could talk into dropping that kind of $$$$ for. Wish I just went though. 
Was too young to see them in the original Dave years but saw them a bunch of times with Sammy (they were fine, not Dave era but fine). When they came around in '08 I saw them at MSG, paid $300 IIRC which I normally wouldn't do, but to see Dave & Eddie on stage together was one of my concert dreams. Was great to see them play the hits but overall didn't blow me away. Dave's voice isn't where it used to be, I think Eddie was a bit hammered & they missed Michael Anthony's backup vocals (though Wolfgang is certainly passable). Glad I went but don't think you missed too much, it wasn't close to the glory days I don't think. If I had a Hot Tub Time Machine I'd be going back to Fair Warning, Women & Children First tours. 

 
I like the updated thread title: Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era :: 68. Riot / Tygers / ♦ Head

Riot and Tygers and Head, oh my...

 
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Loved Riot in HS.  Swords and Tequila still may be my favorite song of all time.  Their follow-up album Restless Breed got a lot of airplay here also.  

 
67. Vain

Another story where a good promising band comes along in 1989 and gets wiped out by the business, I like this one alot, just the right balance of glam/sleaze and raw sound.  From San Francisco but these guys pulled off the L.A. sound just fine.  No Respect - killer album.  They never had the chance to follow it up, until it was too late to build off of the early buzz anyway.  Took their careers into their own hands and they are still out there plugging away.   Just a few years ago I sat outside my old office in Columbia, MD, on a Saturday, got stoned and listened to their live set at the Merriweather M3 Festival.

This was always a fun one to crank on my *checks notes* Sparkomatic tape player in my *checks notes again* 1984 Nissan Sentra hatchback 

@rockactionmight be able to fill us in on more Vain deets

Beat The Bullet

No Respect

I have NEVER made it to an M3 Festival.  Maybe this is the year?

 
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Think plinko pretty much covered Vain. Vain was outstanding, cutting a debut like few others had or will. Perfect amount of chops, sleaze, and come hither whine in their voices. The whole debut album is worth listening to if you like that sort of thing, but as plinko noted, they came along right at the tail end of the hair metal thing and never broke it big despite having the chops, songs, and look nailed. 

After an ill-fated second album called All Those Strangers and the then the inevitable keep afloat/turn towards a grunge look in '94 called Move On It, their 2005 album, On The Line, is an album where they're still in fine form, getting back to doing what they do best, rocking and shaking away in all their glam glory. 

Fun fact: Davy Vain, lead singer, was also a Bay Area sound engineer/producer who produced, among others, thrash metal acts like Death Angel. 

From On The Line: 

On The Line 

Drag Me

 
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66. Bang Tango

What to say about Bang Tango, their name was goofy enough that they're still mocked over it, but similar to Vain (in a similar vein?) I thought their record Psycho Cafe was pretty excellent front to back, and they actually got some support into the 90's.  Their next record Dancin' On Coals came out around the same time as Slave To The Grind and it was no Slave To The Grind.  But it wasn't bad.  

Someone Like You
Dancing On Coals

Singer Joe Leste sounds like Billy Idol but also shrieks a lot

Bassist “Kyle Kyle” is a little showy. Fuller production here than with Vain 

 
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65. Britny Fox

Philly-based Cinderella Jr. even picked a couple of early band members from Cinderella.  I think these guys kinda blow, their lyrics were hopeless, but.. they had their day.

Girlschool   music for the lcd
Save The Weak   first look how cute we are

I hate these covers too
Gudbuy T'Jane  
Hair of the Dog  

Dean Davidson thing from 2007, he talks a little at 1:18.  Philly boy. I expect him to start #####ing about the Flyers offseason.

Pointless personal plinko ptrivia: Britny Fox and Bang Tango had played St Louis and were staying at the same Days Inn as me the night before I shipped off to the Air Farce.  I talked to some groupies for a while but never saw anyone from the bands.

Out of this trifecta of 1989ers.. I like Vain the best but I ranked them by popularity.  Onward, back we go to Germany.
 

 
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Shine On and Dream On are solid tunes by Britney Fox. Definitely Cinderella Jr but i still dig some of their stuff.

 
66. Bang Tango

What to say about Bang Tango, their name was goofy enough that they're still mocked over it, but similar to Vain (in a similar vein?) I thought their record Psycho Cafe was pretty excellent front to back, and they actually got some support into the 90's.  Their next record Dancin' On Coals came out around the same time as Slave To The Grind and it was no Slave To The Grind.  But it wasn't bad.  

Someone Like You
Dancing On Coals

Singer Joe Leste sounds like Billy Idol but also shrieks a lot

Bassist “Kyle Kyle” is a little showy. Fuller production here than with Vain 
They had very good live album “Live Injection“. I came across this a year or so ago, and of course got lost down this rabbit hole: Full Bang Tango documentary- Attack of Life on youtube. This was 2015, so covers their return at M3 festival (i believe it was M3, could have been Rock on the Range or any of the others)

 

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