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Top 100 Heavy Metal and glam rock acts from the MTV era - it's still real to me (3 Viewers)

In fact, VH fans might be worse because they have more targets for parking-lot bullies to aim at, and they can't even agree on when the sellout happened - all the while punching the paneling in their parents' basements sporting Doritos stains on their yellowed underwear.
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12. Van Halen / David Lee Roth / Van Hagar


Van Halen will always be my number one, and I actually prefer Van Hagar to the early Dave stuff, just because that was the music of my high school/college years. First time I saw them was the Balance tour and I will die on the mountain that that album is better than most think.

Even the Gary Cherone version was a great show, just not a great album.

 
My ex-wife was/is a music chameleon. What ever band her boyfriend/husband/older brothers/etc were into, she was into. The most cringe worthy moments in the car over the years would be when any hair metal would come on the radio, she would yell out, "I love the Scorps so much!!"  
Both of my ex-wives were like this. Which probably says more about me than it does them. It's funny, though - after both splits, they were public in despising the artists they liked when they were with me :lol:

 
Van Halen was my group of friends' house band in high school. Don't like them as much as I used to but there is still a lot to like.

First concert I ever saw was the Carnal Knowledge tour. Also saw their Balance show and they had actual (so they said) Tibetan monks chanting to kick off Seventh Seal. That was kinda cool.

Van Halen

I remember teaching Sunday school and then going home to listen to VH1 - with a track named Running With The Devil. The irony wasn't lost on 16 year old me. :lol:

Some tracks, other than the obvious ones, that I like are Everybody Wants Some, Could This Be Magic, Yours In A Simple Rhyme, So This Is Love, Little Guitars (their best song, IMO).

Van Hagar

If 5150 had been the second album of Van Hagar, it would probably be hailed as one of the great rock albums. But since it followed 1984, (which, no matter what the revisionists say now, IS one of the great rock albums) it had too much competition. The only song that doesn't belong is Inside, that one is terrible. But the eponymous track 5150, Dreams, Best of Both Worlds (awesome!) are among the best VH has to offer. The rest is heavily Hagar influenced - so if you're not a fan of his sound you probably don't like Van Hagar much.

Deep-ish tracks I like - Judgement Day, Runaround, Big Fat Money (oh yeah! :headbang: ), Take Me Back/Deja Vu 

OU812 is wheezy and it seemed like it was over at that point. But For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge redeemed things, if only for a little bit. 

Right Here, Right Now is a good live album and has a killer version of One Way To Rock.

For a moment, things were re-captured with the terrific Me Wise Magic. The chorus makes you feel like VH in the 80's again. 

And A Different Kind of Truth (10 years ago already?) had Blood And Fire, which should sound like VH since it was written in the 80's, is another good/deep track.

David Lee Roth

Sure the sound is different - Dave liked his big band stuff. But there's plenty to like here.

give me a bottle of anything and a glazed doughnut...to go!!!

Some good stuff - Goin' Crazy, Just Like Paradise, Skyscraper, Hot Dog & A Shake, A Lil' Ain't Enough, Hammerhead Shark, 40 Below

 
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Gotta admit I'm a bit surprised VH didn't even crack the top 10.  Intrigued to see how the rest of the rankings play out. 
I have so much to catch up on starting at Whitesnake. I love this thread and @plinko's work throughout, but I don’t see how VH lands outside the Top 5, let alone the Top 10!*

Especially considering nearly every guitarist in the bands listed in this thread were influenced by Eddie.

*Disclaimer: I have a rotation of 4 VH masks I wear in the office - not that I'm biased though.

 
Especially considering nearly every guitarist in the bands listed in this thread were influenced by Eddie.
This became a bit of a problem, though. Whereas Eddie could make his berserker solos fit the songs (most of the time), many of his imitators couldn't - they'd just hammer strings as hard as they could with no thought to the main melody. It was jarring and off-putting to my ears.

 
I have so much to catch up on starting at Whitesnake. I love this thread and @plinko's work throughout, but I don’t see how VH lands outside the Top 5, let alone the Top 10!*

Especially considering nearly every guitarist in the bands listed in this thread were influenced by Eddie.

*Disclaimer: I have a rotation of 4 VH masks I wear in the office - not that I'm biased though.


If he's not counting KISS and AC/DC's pre-MTV stuff, I don't think it's that implausible.  I'll assume he's counting Fair Warning (like MTV, it came out in 1981).  But the only other two Roth-era albums that count in this countdown are Diver Down and 1984 (which is admittedly massive).  

I have no problem with Sammy era VH, but it's hard to think of a lot of the popular songs from those albums that really rocked.  Dreams, Love Walks In.  I guess Best of Both Worlds had that blues groove going.  

 
This became a bit of a problem, though. Whereas Eddie could make his berserker solos fit the songs (most of the time), many of his imitators couldn't - they'd just hammer strings as hard as they could with no thought to the main melody. It was jarring and off-putting to my ears.
I guess it helps when you're the soloist and the rhythm guitarist.

I love Eddie's solos, but I like his bluesy riffs better.  At least, I think the combination of those riffs and the soaring harmonies are what make a "Van Halen song."

 
Van Halen will always be my number one, and I actually prefer Van Hagar to the early Dave stuff, just because that was the music of my high school/college years. First time I saw them was the Balance tour and I will die on the mountain that that album is better than most think.

Even the Gary Cherone version was a great show, just not a great album.
I like Balance….again Feeling and Take Me Back are for me awesome songs. Love those two tunes immensely. 

 
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If he's not counting KISS and AC/DC's pre-MTV stuff, I don't think it's that implausible.  I'll assume he's counting Fair Warning (like MTV, it came out in 1981).  But the only other two Roth-era albums that count in this countdown are Diver Down and 1984 (which is admittedly massive).  

I have no problem with Sammy era VH, but it's hard to think of a lot of the popular songs from those albums that really rocked.  Dreams, Love Walks In.  I guess Best of Both Worlds had that blues groove going.  
Best of Both Worlds, Get Up, Summer Nights, Good Enough and from OU812 AFU, Source of the Infection and Black N Blue rocked hard.

 
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Just for the shtick, I hope plinko plays this completely straight right up until he selects Huey Lewis and the News at Number 1.


I have thought about multiple fake #1's but will just play it straight, even the top 11 at this point should be clearing up

Van Halen is an epic rock band,  DLR's vids were incredible, it was all "heavy metal" at the time and Eddie was unquestionably the greatest.  But there are a few actual metal bands still to come, and some acts who really conquered the video platform and when cable was in every house.

Glad I moved Ratt down anyway

 
I had tickets to see the 1984 tour-main floor risers at Cobo Hall. As we were walking through the parking lot a guy offered us $250 for the pair. We had only paid like $70 for them at were like sure, we'll see them next time! Not sure I would have sold if I knew it was the last chance to see the DLR VH.  Used some of the money to buy a bag of Thai stick from some dude riding a Good Humor tricycle . Have seen Van Hagar 4 times and DLR once but not quite the same.

 
I can come up with a few more bands left to put in the top 10, but there are a couple that are either top-10 or off the list depending on whether they met the list criteria, and I'm not sure which it will be.

 
I had tickets to see the 1984 tour-main floor risers at Cobo Hall. As we were walking through the parking lot a guy offered us $250 for the pair. We had only paid like $70 for them at were like sure, we'll see them next time! Not sure I would have sold if I knew it was the last chance to see the DLR VH.  Used some of the money to buy a bag of Thai stick from some dude riding a Good Humor tricycle .
Nice work by the ice cream man to stop you while you passed by.

 
Still trying to imagine what a Hall Halen would sound like.  Maybe a mashup of Sarah Smile/Jamie's Crying. 


I feel like I can see where Eddie would want to go with adding Hall. Better singer, more serious stage presence, more synth, more soul, probably much better collaborator. But I can't figure out what the finished product would be, or who you could compare them to?

Considering that Hall and Oates peaked in 1985, might have been a good more for Hall.

 
I can come up with a few more bands left to put in the top 10, but there are a couple that are either top-10 or off the list depending on whether they met the list criteria, and I'm not sure which it will be.
I'm either pretty close to having the rest of the list or only about half way there depending on whether Plinko does his lump bands with common members together thing.

 
I mentioned once before that there were three people I've never met that have died and caused me to shed tears. Lemmy Kilmister was the first, Eddie Van Halen was the most recent (Prince was the third, but I suspect he won't be mentioned on this list). EVH died on Oct. 6th, which is my wedding anniversary, and I carved a VH logo into my jack-o-lantern for Halloween that year.

I probably wore out at least one copy of VH I on cassette, same with 1984. Count me as one of those that preferred Van Hagar to the Roth iteration. I did love a lot of DLR's solo stuff, his debut album (and EP before that) was fantastic, and Yankee Rose is still a crank-it-to-11 tune for me when I hear it. 

5150 and For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge both rate very highly for me on my all-time albums list. I don't think there's a weak number on 5150 (Get Up? Nah, still awesome), and the title track, Summer Nights, Best of Both Worlds and Dreams are all great. Poundcake is one of my favorite VH tunes, and brings back some crazy great memories from the summer of 1991. I listened to that song endlessly that summer. And Me Wise Magic... so fantastic! It gave us hope that there would be a reunion, but alas...

 
Gotta admit I'm a bit surprised VH didn't even crack the top 10.  Intrigued to see how the rest of the rankings play out. 
It's going to be interesting for sure....lots of twists and turns in this list.

ETA that was weird, quoted the wrong post. Grabbed Ramsey's instead of Skip's.

 
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If he's not counting KISS and AC/DC's pre-MTV stuff, I don't think it's that implausible.  I'll assume he's counting Fair Warning (like MTV, it came out in 1981).  But the only other two Roth-era albums that count in this countdown are Diver Down and 1984 (which is admittedly massive).  

I have no problem with Sammy era VH, but it's hard to think of a lot of the popular songs from those albums that really rocked.  Dreams, Love Walks In.  I guess Best of Both Worlds had that blues groove going.  
I did think of that re:MTV. They only had Hear About It Later, Unchained & So This Is Love rotating on early MTV as they were pulled from a concert in Oakland. Diver Down's only video was Pretty Woman which MTV banned. So first true MTV videos weren't until 1984.

 
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I'm either pretty close to having the rest of the list or only about half way there depending on whether Plinko does his lump bands with common members together thing.
One more of those, and only kind of

BUT FIRST

11. Slayer

This is challenging music for most people, and that includes me.  But to take a burgeoning form to its extreme (not that Extreme), but still not go over the top, that's what Slayer did and and they are the best at what they did.

Early on of course, not a whole lot separated them from what other young bands in the heavy thrash scene were doing, but as the more talented groups started softening their sound in search of hooks - and willing, paying ears - Slayer forged ahead and made some intensely heavy and layered ####.

Their uncompromising aggression would prove to bear the torch for blar blar blar blargggghhhhhHHHHH!!!!

Black Magic

Angel of Death
Postmortem/Raining Blood

South of Heaven

Tom Breihan's Number Ones on Baby Come Back
 

 
When my daughters were young we were playing hide and seek once and they wouldn't come out when I called for them, so I played Slayer's Dead Skin Mask very very loud. They came out, pale-faced and frightened. Father of the year right there. 

 
One more of those, and only kind of

BUT FIRST

11. Slayer

This is challenging music for most people, and that includes me.  But to take a burgeoning form to its extreme (not that Extreme), but still not go over the top, that's what Slayer did and and they are the best at what they did.

Early on of course, not a whole lot separated them from what other young bands in the heavy thrash scene were doing, but as the more talented groups started softening their sound in search of hooks - and willing, paying ears - Slayer forged ahead and made some intensely heavy and layered ####.

Their uncompromising aggression would prove to bear the torch for blar blar blar blargggghhhhhHHHHH!!!!

Black Magic

Angel of Death
Postmortem/Raining Blood

South of Heaven

Tom Breihan's Number Ones on Baby Come Back
 
1. RIP Jeff

2. Still putting out brutal, quality music

**nsfw - violence, language**

 
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scorchy said:
We probably saw the band 7 or 8 times, and Ron Jeremy was at the club every single one of them.  One time, he and some poor drugged out girl sat at the table next to me and Ron kept nodding off onto my shoulder.  He had horrible B.O.
You ever go to Viper Room when they had the early version of Steel Panther playing? Think they were called Metal Shop. I went once, 2000 or so, Chad Smith was there chilling, and the band brought up Chip Z'Nuff (😳) for a song. 

We went to The Rainbow that trip, we were like, whoa! Ron Jeremy! Went back to LA years later, went by Rainbow for a drink, Ron at same table. Creepy. 

 
10. Judas Priest

Does this seem high? I don't know, I feel like, from my little perch in the deepish south, these were the leaders of the metal charge, right in 81-82-83 when it mattered, and they delivered... the goods!

They had been delivering the goods for quite some time.  I can't remember who our resident Spinal Tap consultant is, but reading through their Origins on wikipedia is pretty much like reading the script :lmao:

A precursor of The Flying Hat Band called Shave'Em Dry featured future Starfighters drummer Barry Scrannage, who had played with original Priest members Ernest Chataway and Bruno Stapenhill in the band Bullion.
1975-76 Victim of Changes

And then, from 1977 to 1982 they'd release an album a year, breaking through to mainstream America despite being loud-as-#### leather daddies, thanks to something like this You've Got Another Thing Coming

Heading Out to the Highway
 
Screaming For Vengeance
Electric Eye

Freewheel Burning

Did they plod a bit through the second half of the 80's with a lot of filler?  Yes they did, but they did it vaguely gay and anthemically, and I was happy to be a brief part of it.

Turbo Lover guilty as charged, your honor
Johnny B. Goode we did not ask but we got anyway

But then 1990 rolls around, they pick up Scott Travis, drummer from Racer X, and he helps double-kick them back into high gear for another metal classic

Painkiller

Also, dragged into court by religious loons around this time.. that's points!

Other stuff happens, Halford gets replaced by the Funky Bunch or something

 
I'll say it. Turbo is a great album. Favorite track is Hot For Love, but also like Turbo Lover and Rock You All Around the World.

Hard as Iron off the next album is good too.

Breaking the Law was 80's to, so that qualifies. :headbang:

 
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I'll say it. Turbo is a great album. Favorite track is Hot For Love, but also like Turbo Lover and Rock You All Around the World.
I also dig Parental Guidance and Wild Nights, Hot and Crazy Days from that album. Definately not heavy Priest but still good.

 
10. Judas Priest

Does this seem high? I don't know, I feel like, from my little perch in the deepish south, these were the leaders of the metal charge, right in 81-82-83 when it mattered, and they delivered... the goods!

They had been delivering the goods for quite some time.  I can't remember who our resident Spinal Tap consultant is, but reading through their Origins on wikipedia is pretty much like reading the script :lmao:

1975-76 Victim of Changes

And then, from 1977 to 1982 they'd release an album a year, breaking through to mainstream America despite being loud-as-#### leather daddies, thanks to something like this You've Got Another Thing Coming

Heading Out to the Highway
 
Screaming For Vengeance
Electric Eye

Freewheel Burning

Did they plod a bit through the second half of the 80's with a lot of filler?  Yes they did, but they did it vaguely gay and anthemically, and I was happy to be a brief part of it.

Turbo Lover guilty as charged, your honor
Johnny B. Goode we did not ask but we got anyway

But then 1990 rolls around, they pick up Scott Travis, drummer from Racer X, and he helps double-kick them back into high gear for another metal classic

Painkiller

Also, dragged into court by religious loons around this time.. that's points!

Other stuff happens, Halford gets replaced by the Funky Bunch or something
i like Robs version of Away In A Manger

 
I was probably a little young for Slayer, and they didn’t have the mainstream appeal of say a Metallica or Megadeth so I didn’t really hear a lot of their stuff until I was older.  Guitar Hero made me love Reigning Blood

But I was definitely aware of them, I have a brother that’s 10 years older and he played bass in a metal band in the late 80s timeframe, so lots of Slayer T-Shirts

 
11. Slayer
Even with my misgivings about content, they could easily be number one here. South Of Heaven and Seasons In The Abyss were two of the finer metal offerings in the years '89-'91. Just outstanding albums, produced by none other than Rick Rubin, a bit slowed-down, always intense and chugging riffage. Just a great band. Good lead singer, too. I met Dave Lombardo during the Clash Of The Titans tour in San Diego. I was dressed all preppy in the hotel in the elevator, and I asked "Excuse me, aren't you the drummer for Slayer?" He seemed very surprised, but was very courteous and wished me a good time at the show once I told him I was going to see them that night. Nice guy. 

Anyway, I already told my "War Ensemble" story so I have little else other than that their later albums are much, much better than they get credit for. Everybody likes Reign In Blood and the other sped-up albums, I love their slower, more riff-laden type of stuff. When they riff and go breakneck, they're awesome. 

Metal. 

 
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You ever go to Viper Room when they had the early version of Steel Panther playing? Think they were called Metal Shop. I went once, 2000 or so, Chad Smith was there chilling, and the band brought up Chip Z'Nuff (😳) for a song. 

We went to The Rainbow that trip, we were like, whoa! Ron Jeremy! Went back to LA years later, went by Rainbow for a drink, Ron at same table. Creepy. 
I remember going to the Viper Room once - CC Deville's cover band was playing.  Was that Metal Shop?  

Ron Jeremy apparently was Mr. Everywhere,

 
plinko said:
Loving the Ratt love!

12. Van Halen / David Lee Roth / Van Hagar

Pretty Woman - "one of the first" videos banned by MTV (first was Queen!) ... nightmare #### happening here..

Panama

It's 1984 and the biggest rock band in the country must have known they had just peaked, at least Eddie did, at least with this current group.  I imagine he could have put up with Dave for the rest of his life if there was much more in it.

Dave went solo in bombastic fashion, and 14 year old me thought it was amazing.

Just A Gigolo
Yankee Rose

Van Halen picked up Sammy Hagar  (after being turned down by Daryl Hall and Patty Smyth? -- can't be real.. friend of band Billy Sheehan also once said he was offered Michael's job) and carried forth like they knew what they were doing.  And they did.  And it was good.  I didn't like it but it was good.

Dreams  forgot about this Blue Angels video

DLR, Eat 'Em And Smile I liked.  Again.. 14.. but it's a fun piece.  Not a ton of staying power maybe.  The follow-up, Skyscraper, same band is still on, had one pretty big hit and it's a good pop song, but the rest is faded on me.  Beyond that, he's had his moments, and he helped bring up John 5.

.. My last chance to mention Steve Vai, who always seemed super cool and could rip it up.  I liked his solo record around '90 too.. his Zappa-esque earlier solo record is... something.

The Sammy years were a good time for the rest of the Halens, at least from what I could tell, and they were able to rock into their middle ages.

I caught Van Halen on the first reunion tour with Dave, teenage Wolfgang, maybe 2006? It was not spectacular by any sense but dammit it was great to be there!  I'm lucky to have done it.  Legends.

Tom Breihan's old dilapidated Number Ones on JUMP


VH with Roth is always better. Eddie dying I cried for a good long Time. Wolfgang is doing great just release his first solo music recently. I had a chance to see them on their last reunion tour with Roth but I can't remember why we didn't go. I wish I had though. Never will get to see Eddie live. What a legend on the guitar. Eddie Van Halen was great for the generation. Unfortunately my Generations great Guitar player Alexi Lahio of Children of Bodom died a year ago this past December do to some health issues he kept quiet. Only two times in the last few yrs I cried over a celebs death. Before that it was Dio and the late Phillies Play by Play Harry Kalas when they aired his funeral live from the stadium 

 
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One more of those, and only kind of

BUT FIRST

11. Slayer

This is challenging music for most people, and that includes me.  But to take a burgeoning form to its extreme (not that Extreme), but still not go over the top, that's what Slayer did and and they are the best at what they did.

Early on of course, not a whole lot separated them from what other young bands in the heavy thrash scene were doing, but as the more talented groups started softening their sound in search of hooks - and willing, paying ears - Slayer forged ahead and made some intensely heavy and layered ####.

Their uncompromising aggression would prove to bear the torch for blar blar blar blargggghhhhhHHHHH!!!!

Black Magic

Angel of Death
Postmortem/Raining Blood

South of Heaven

Tom Breihan's Number Ones on Baby Come Back
 


Had a friend in HS who was a huge Slayer fan. Got into them years back later in college/post college. Saw one of their last shows in Camden. I wasn't into Slayer as much till I saw them play on one of the VH1's Revolver Golden Gods award shows (One of the few music award shows I will watch from the US) and they blew me away. This was after Jeff died. At the time I was into a Gothic Power Metal Band from Italy (still am) named Lacuna Coil. The Lead Female Singer Cristina Scabbia was really good friends with Jeff at the time he died and I think they were dating at the time. One of my college buddies mom worked the Tower theatre going back yrs so Lacuna Coil was doing a show there which my buddy and I went. We skipped class to hang with the band (Yes my buddy has that kind of power from his mom) and they were pretty cool. Cristina talked a lot of Jeff at the time so I figured I'd give them a listen too. 

Wish I had gotten into them sooner but back in HS I for some reason couldn't get into a band like Slayer despite having become a huge Metallica fan. 

 
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You ever go to Viper Room when they had the early version of Steel Panther playing? Think they were called Metal Shop. I went once, 2000 or so, Chad Smith was there chilling, and the band brought up Chip Z'Nuff (😳) for a song. 


Yep Metal Shop before they became Steel Panther and what a great band. Lead Singer Micheal Starr briefly played in LA Guns in the late 90s as lead singer. If people get their gig of not being taken serious they are great. They are also very talented musicians and I think would surprise people if they made a serious album one of these days. 

 
10. Judas Priest

Does this seem high? I don't know, I feel like, from my little perch in the deepish south, these were the leaders of the metal charge, right in 81-82-83 when it mattered, and they delivered... the goods!

They had been delivering the goods for quite some time.  I can't remember who our resident Spinal Tap consultant is, but reading through their Origins on wikipedia is pretty much like reading the script :lmao:

1975-76 Victim of Changes

And then, from 1977 to 1982 they'd release an album a year, breaking through to mainstream America despite being loud-as-#### leather daddies, thanks to something like this You've Got Another Thing Coming

Heading Out to the Highway
 
Screaming For Vengeance
Electric Eye

Freewheel Burning

Did they plod a bit through the second half of the 80's with a lot of filler?  Yes they did, but they did it vaguely gay and anthemically, and I was happy to be a brief part of it.

Turbo Lover guilty as charged, your honor
Johnny B. Goode we did not ask but we got anyway

But then 1990 rolls around, they pick up Scott Travis, drummer from Racer X, and he helps double-kick them back into high gear for another metal classic

Painkiller

Also, dragged into court by religious loons around this time.. that's points!

Other stuff happens, Halford gets replaced by the Funky Bunch or something


I'm a Priest fan not huge but I respect them. One of the first bands that made wearing leather and rocking cool in a biker gimmick way. Rob Halford has such a great voice. 

 
I'll say it. Turbo is a great album. Favorite track is Hot For Love, but also like Turbo Lover and Rock You All Around the World.

Hard as Iron off the next album is good too.

Breaking the Law was 80's to, so that qualifies. :headbang:
Turbo is fantastic. I really liked Painkiller and Screaming For Vengeance as well, but for my money, British Steel is not to be topped. Absolute classic, Mt. Rushmore-of-heavy-metal-quality record. I still can't figure out how United isn't considered one of their classics like You've Got Another Thing Coming, Breaking the Law, or Turbo Lover. I used to play that track at full volume if I was way behind and needed a rally in Super Tecmo Bowl. It got Warren Moon, Lorenzo White, Drew Hill, Earnest Givens, and Haywood Jeffries super pumped and ready to mount a comeback for the ages.

ETA:  :nerd: :bag:

 
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