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[aldelgreco]

I can't believe how much more valuable FBG believes Joseph Addai is than Dominic Rhodes.

Joseph Addai with a 700+ trade value, just under Fred Taylor and SA while Rhodes has a measley 86 and is right there alongside Justin Fargas. I knew that the gap between these two guys was growing, but I had no idea that their projected values would be that far off from one another.

I was also interested to see how high Colston has risen on the receivers list. Who would have thought he would be the 11th best receiver at this point? Dude is a stud. It should be a crime that some leagues can start him as a TE.

 

[redsoxfan]

I think both of these make a tremendous amount of sense.

In fact, I almost think Addai should be higher. In the last 2 games Addai has 35 carries, Rhodes has 7. The RBBC is over, and the Indy offense is really starting to roll. If their defense comes alive as it did last week then Addai could end up getting even more carries.

I'm also not sure why you are surprised about Colston as #11. The season is half over and in most of my leagues he is the #1 scoring WR.

 

[RIM]

i dropped Rhodes this week. and i doubt anyone in my 10 team league will even bother to pick him up. He's a backup at this point

 

[hector31]

I was surprised to see Fitzgerald ranked above Walker. If I could pull that trade off today, I'd do it immediately.

 

[mbuehner]

I'm curious how Parker is RB9 going forward when he is RB6 to date and is now involved heavilly in the passing game. How does he lose ground?

 

[broncofan13000]

i think Dallas Defense is severly overratted....they don't generate any sacks, and have been a dissapointment all season.

 

[hpnepon]

I don't get your question. Do you actually think that Rhodes has any trade value in any league format?

 

[aldelgreco]

I don't get your question. Do you actually think that Rhodes has any trade value in any league format?

a trade went down in my redraft league yesterday:Rhodes, TBell and M HarrisonforJ Jones, J Lewis.

 

[rhawkins68]

I don't get your question. Do you actually think that Rhodes has any trade value in any league format?

He has trade value. I just traded him for a 2nd and D. Williams last week. Guess if you looking for big trades only then he has no value. Otherwise he can help you improve your team in Dynasty type leagues.

 

[Tau837]

I'm curious how Parker is RB9 going forward when he is RB6 to date and is now involved heavilly in the passing game. How does he lose ground?

I'm curious how you can say Parker is heavily involved in the passing game based on one game. This is the second thread in which I have seen you post this.Weeks 1-8 (7 games) - 14 targets, 13 catches, 75 yards (5.8 ypr), 1 TDWeek 9 - 9 targets, 7 catches, 67 yards (9.6 ypr), 1 TDYes, Parker had a great receiving game last week. Once. The 3 games prior, he had a total of 4 targets. There is no trend here, at least not yet.Also, this past week, Roethlisberger attempted 54 passes. In his other 6 games, he averaged 30 attempts. His previous career high was 41 passing attempts. His previous season high was 39 passing attempts. Think this past week might have been an outlier?

 

[VaCatFan]

I don't get your question. Do you actually think that Rhodes has any trade value in any league format?

He has trade value. I just traded him for a 2nd and D. Williams last week. Guess if you looking for big trades only then he has no value. Otherwise he can help you improve your team in Dynasty type leagues.

did the other owner offer you his wife too?

 

[mbuehner]

I'm curious how you can say Parker is heavily involved in the passing game based on one game. This is the second thread in which I have seen you post this.

Weeks 1-8 (7 games) - 14 targets, 13 catches, 75 yards (5.8 ypr), 1 TD

Week 9 - 9 targets, 7 catches, 67 yards (9.6 ypr), 1 TD

Yes, Parker had a great receiving game last week. Once. The 3 games prior, he had a total of 4 targets. There is no trend here, at least not yet.

Well- did it occur to you that the third down back for the Steelers is out for the rest of the season? Haynes was targetted 22 times in 7 games that need to be accounted for. Duce Staley has not been activated. Davenport was targetted only 5 times.

Suddenly Parker is targetted 9 times in one game, when he was only targetted 15 times in the previous 7 games. You don't find that significant? I guess I could wait till February and then announce this potentially critical finding...

Also, this past week, Roethlisberger attempted 54 passes. In his other 6 games, he averaged 30 attempts. His previous career high was 41 passing attempts. His previous season high was 39 passing attempts. Think this past week might have been an outlier?

Immaterial- the Steelers are averaging over 7 RB targets a game (even excluding this week its still 6.1 targets) this season. They are one of the best screen pass executors in football. Even if Parker only splits the available targets with Davenport (who is injury prone as well!) this is an opportunity for some significant FPs. Moreover this is a struggling team that is going to need to find ways to move the ball, and Parker is their best playmaker. Resting him for the playoffs isnt really an issue, now is it?Im having trouble seeing how you don't find this to be an extremely interesting turn of events. Like i said, he's already the #6 RB while ranking 25th in targets. If that picks up we're quickly into elite country. Sure, i could wait until it actually happens to bring it up, but what in god's name good would that do? Arent we in the business of finding things out before they occur and everybody in the world knows about it? Hey, keep an eye on that Larry Johnson kid, btw.

 

[Tau837]

I'm curious how you can say Parker is heavily involved in the passing game based on one game. This is the second thread in which I have seen you post this.

Weeks 1-8 (7 games) - 14 targets, 13 catches, 75 yards (5.8 ypr), 1 TD

Week 9 - 9 targets, 7 catches, 67 yards (9.6 ypr), 1 TD

Yes, Parker had a great receiving game last week. Once. The 3 games prior, he had a total of 4 targets. There is no trend here, at least not yet.

Well- did it occur to you that the third down back for the Steelers is out for the rest of the season? Haynes was targetted 22 times in 7 games that need to be accounted for. Duce Staley has not been activated. Davenport was targetted only 5 times.

Suddenly Parker is targetted 9 times in one game, when he was only targetted 15 times in the previous 7 games. You don't find that significant? I guess I could wait till February and then announce this potentially critical finding...

Also, this past week, Roethlisberger attempted 54 passes. In his other 6 games, he averaged 30 attempts. His previous career high was 41 passing attempts. His previous season high was 39 passing attempts. Think this past week might have been an outlier?

Immaterial- the Steelers are averaging over 7 RB targets a game (even excluding this week its still 6.1 targets) this season. They are one of the best screen pass executors in football. Even if Parker only splits the available targets with Davenport (who is injury prone as well!) this is an opportunity for some significant FPs.

You say yourself that the Steelers were averaging 6.1 RB targets per game prior to last week. If Parker splits the available targets with Davenport, that gives him 3.05 targets per game going forward.Prior to last week, Parker was averaged 2.0 targets per game. So he stands to gain 1.05 targets per game.

Even including last week, he is averaging 0.87 catches, 6.17 yards, and 0.09 TDs per target, so that's the type of gain you can expect with his extra target per game. Excuse me while I catch my breath.

In truth, it sounds like you're expecting him to do more than split those 6 targets.

Moreover this is a struggling team that is going to need to find ways to move the ball, and Parker is their best playmaker. Resting him for the playoffs isnt really an issue, now is it?

Im having trouble seeing how you don't find this to be an extremely interesting turn of events. Like i said, he's already the #6 RB while ranking 25th in targets. If that picks up we're quickly into elite country. Sure, i could wait until it actually happens to bring it up, but what in god's name good would that do? Arent we in the business of finding things out before they occur and everybody in the world knows about it? Hey, keep an eye on that Larry Johnson kid, btw.

It certainly doesn't hurt Parker's potential, I'll grant you. I just don't see the big uptick you do. Thanks for the tip on LJ.

 

[mbuehner]

You say yourself that the Steelers were averaging 6.1 RB targets per game prior to last week. If Parker splits the available targets with Davenport, that gives him 3.05 targets per game going forward.

Prior to last week, Parker was averaged 2.0 targets per game. So he stands to gain 1.05 targets per game.

I didnt say the available targets, i said Haynes share of the targets. All you are suggesting is that Davenport steps into Haynes roll which obviously wouldnt increase FWPs looks at all. Even so, i realize we are splitting hairs. But lets say its 2 extra targets a game. This is not negligible, particularly with a very elusive RB like Parker. Parker has 2 TDs this season on 23 targets, you give him an extra 16 or so targets and you are talking about 1-2 more TDs potentially, and another hundred yards or so. That equates to around 20 fantasy points, which is about the difference between the #5 and #4 RB and so forth. Is that a big deal? If you have FWP and you are playing Clinton Portis in the playoffs it sure is!Maybe im overselling this to some degree because Parker is still playing several slots above his 'assumed' value (much less ADP). The argument is- even in PPG he is the #7 RB right now, these extra looks surely arent going to hurt him. Admittedly his schedule is reasonably tough, but also 1/4 of his remaining games are again Cleveland, including playoff week 1.

And this is all assuming the coaches just dont watch him catch the ball and decide he's the best recieving RB they got. Thats even greater upside.

 

[Steelers4Life]

I can't believe how much more valuable FBG believes Joseph Addai is than Dominic Rhodes. Joseph Addai with a 700+ trade value, just under Fred Taylor and SA while Rhodes has a measley 86 and is right there alongside Justin Fargas. I knew that the gap between these two guys was growing, but I had no idea that their projected values would be that far off from one another.

Addai has gotten 80% of the RB touches over the past two weeks (40 out of 50)If he had 80% of the combined production between he and Rhodes so far this year, he'd be a top 10 RB, and he's been better with his touches than Rhodes has.

 

[Rogi]

I can't believe how much more valuable FBG believes Joseph Addai is than Dominic Rhodes.

Joseph Addai with a 700+ trade value, just under Fred Taylor and SA while Rhodes has a measley 86 and is right there alongside Justin Fargas. I knew that the gap between these two guys was growing, but I had no idea that their projected values would be that far off from one another.

Addai has gotten 80% of the RB touches over the past two weeks (40 out of 50)If he had 80% of the combined production between he and Rhodes so far this year, he'd be a top 10 RB, and he's been better with his touches than Rhodes has.

Great posting. If Addai continues with this workload he could pay nice dividends for anybody who drafted him in the late rounds. He's not the next Larry Johnson, but he might put up reasonably good numbers in the Indy offense. I think Indy has passed the torch now that he's comfortable with the offense. It didn't help fantasy owners early on, but it looks like the Colts did a good job of easing him into the role by sharing the load with Rhodes the first half of the season.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm curious how Parker is RB9 going forward when he is RB6 to date and is now involved heavilly in the passing game. How does he lose ground?

I'm curious how you can say Parker is heavily involved in the passing game based on one game. This is the second thread in which I have seen you post this.Weeks 1-8 (7 games) - 14 targets, 13 catches, 75 yards (5.8 ypr), 1 TDWeek 9 - 9 targets, 7 catches, 67 yards (9.6 ypr), 1 TDYes, Parker had a great receiving game last week. Once. The 3 games prior, he had a total of 4 targets. There is no trend here, at least not yet.Also, this past week, Roethlisberger attempted 54 passes. In his other 6 games, he averaged 30 attempts. His previous career high was 41 passing attempts. His previous season high was 39 passing attempts. Think this past week might have been an outlier?

That's a good amount of info.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm not seeing the value of Parker as a pass-catching RB.

Even with the big game last week, they averaged 7 targets per game to RBs, and it looks like the RBs will split targets.

Parker had 9 targets, Davenport had 5. And, what about Dan Kreider? It looks like he gets a smattering of targets.

I don't envision his receiving numbers getting him to the elite for RBs.

I also question who Parker bumps out of the top-8 going forward? Rudi is the only one I would reasonably bump.

Portis it the #10 RB with, essentially, three games MISSED - he's a stud. LJ, LT, and Westbrook are unquestionably the tops. A great argument can be made for both KJones and SJax going forward.

Tiki?

Who gets bumped?