sihaokills
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Top 5 RBs of all time (1 Viewer)
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sihaokills
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Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
The top 5 RBs of all time in my opinion are:
1 - Jim Brown - Only played 9 years and left on top. He would be a beast in any era.
2 - Barry Sanders - Played on awful teams and awful OLs and had he kept playing would have passed Payton and Smith wouldn't have sniffed his record.
3 - Walter Payton - Simply a great football player, let alone a great RB.
4 - Gayle Sayers - See below.
5 - O.J. Simpson - The juice was head and shoulders better than any RB in his prime. He was electrifying.
I was tempted to put Marshall Faulk 5th, but the juice was too far ahead of other RBs for several years. I also liked Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson.
That's looking beyond the final tallys. Gayle Sayers didn't have a long career because of injury, but a lot of people say he's the best they ever saw in the time he DID play.
Sorry E Smith fans, but he isn't close to being better than the RBs I listed and was a product of the system and great OLs.
1 - Jim Brown - Only played 9 years and left on top. He would be a beast in any era.
2 - Barry Sanders - Played on awful teams and awful OLs and had he kept playing would have passed Payton and Smith wouldn't have sniffed his record.
3 - Walter Payton - Simply a great football player, let alone a great RB.
4 - Gayle Sayers - See below.
5 - O.J. Simpson - The juice was head and shoulders better than any RB in his prime. He was electrifying.
I was tempted to put Marshall Faulk 5th, but the juice was too far ahead of other RBs for several years. I also liked Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson.
That's looking beyond the final tallys. Gayle Sayers didn't have a long career because of injury, but a lot of people say he's the best they ever saw in the time he DID play.
Sorry E Smith fans, but he isn't close to being better than the RBs I listed and was a product of the system and great OLs.
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adrenaline
Footballguy
Brown
Sanders
Payton
Tomlinson
Dickerson
Sanders
Payton
Tomlinson
Dickerson
1. Jim Brown
2. Barry Sanders
3. Walter Payton
4. O.J. Simpson
5. Eric Dickerson
I do like the Gayle Sayers call, as he's the one RB I wished I could have seen play. The 2 RB's that I wished had a long healthy career were Sayers and Bo Jackson. Jackson's career was very short, but he had it all.
While he's not in my top 7, I do agree that Emmitt Smith should have been listed.
2. Barry Sanders
3. Walter Payton
4. O.J. Simpson
5. Eric Dickerson
I do like the Gayle Sayers call, as he's the one RB I wished I could have seen play. The 2 RB's that I wished had a long healthy career were Sayers and Bo Jackson. Jackson's career was very short, but he had it all.
While he's not in my top 7, I do agree that Emmitt Smith should have been listed.
adrenaline
Footballguy
I agree that he deserves to be an option.
hutchins929
Footballguy
I too wouldn't put Emmitt near #1 but he should be listed as an option.
#1 Jim Brown (I can't understand ANYONE not putting him there.)
#2 Walter Peyton (I'll never forget being at a game when there was a moment of silence, because he had just passed. He was, easily, one of the greatest ever.)
#3 Barry Sanders (I am a Lions fan but I think i'm being pretty realistic. If he played for another few years he would have the record that Emmitt now has. I would put him at #2 for sure. He just simply left too soon.)
#4 Marshall Faulk (I think that a lot of people don't give him the respect he deserves. I was a pleasantly surprised that he was listed in this poll because he definitely deserves it.)
#5 Emmitt Smith (He deserves the respect of being on the list. Yes, he played on a great team and behind a great line. But simply saying that he wouldn't do well in another situation is pure speculation.)
#1 Jim Brown (I can't understand ANYONE not putting him there.)
#2 Walter Peyton (I'll never forget being at a game when there was a moment of silence, because he had just passed. He was, easily, one of the greatest ever.)
#3 Barry Sanders (I am a Lions fan but I think i'm being pretty realistic. If he played for another few years he would have the record that Emmitt now has. I would put him at #2 for sure. He just simply left too soon.)
#4 Marshall Faulk (I think that a lot of people don't give him the respect he deserves. I was a pleasantly surprised that he was listed in this poll because he definitely deserves it.)
#5 Emmitt Smith (He deserves the respect of being on the list. Yes, he played on a great team and behind a great line. But simply saying that he wouldn't do well in another situation is pure speculation.)
HellToupee
Footballguy
1-Jim Brown
2-Barry Sanders
3-Earl Campbell
4-Walter Payton
5-Eric Dickerson -**** just nips the juice
2-Barry Sanders
3-Earl Campbell
4-Walter Payton
5-Eric Dickerson -**** just nips the juice
adrenaline
Footballguy
Obviously we value talent over longevity.at those who do not have smith top 5
Keith R
The Don
No love for Franco Harris yet? He was the key to the Pittsburgh offense during their first four SBs.
My top 5 were
Brown
Payton
Dickerson
Harris
OJ
I have a bias against scat-backs, hence my omission of Barry (and part of my hatred of Reggie Bush). Outstanding at what he did, no doubt but I can't put him above these bruisers.
My top 5 were
Brown
Payton
Dickerson
Harris
OJ
I have a bias against scat-backs, hence my omission of Barry (and part of my hatred of Reggie Bush). Outstanding at what he did, no doubt but I can't put him above these bruisers.
Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
5th c'mon. Just because you never had Brown on your fantasy team?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Brownhttp://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowJi00.htmRead up
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
It's not about being a fan Hoss, it's just fact. He's not a product of just a good O-line and a good system, it's very narrow minded thinking IMO. I'm not going to try and change your mind, but why did you even mention Emmitt Smith in your closing statement? Why wasn't it sorry Riggins fans, or sorry Marcus Allen fans, why did you pick Emmitt Smith?My guess is because you know deep down he is in that company yet you just don't have him there.There's no way Gayle Sayers was a better football player than Emmitt Smith. The guy didn't even come close to the career Emmitt Smith had. Let me also ask you this, if the Juice was head and shoulders above any RB in his prime, why wasn't he your NO. 1 selection, why did you drop him to No. 5 if he was better than all the rest like you stated?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I like your theme, but if you're going with pure bruisers, how do you not put Earl Campbell in there, he should be right behind Jim Brown in that category.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
Fixed!
Agreed. I never got to watch Brown , but you could just see the fear in defensive backs when they had to get in front of Campbell. I've never seen that with any other player, & I wonder if Brown was even like that.
Mr Rodgers neighborhood
Footballguy
Emmitt Smith
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Barry Sanders
Ladainian Tomlinson
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Barry Sanders
Ladainian Tomlinson
sihaokills
Footballguy
Gale Sayers is getting respect... Good
This is what John Mackey said about Jim Brown:He told me, 'Make sure when anyone tackles you he remembers how much it hurts.' He lived by that philosophy and I always followed that advice. —John Mackey, 1999Something tells me not many DB's wanted to tackle Mr. Brown.
T with T
Footballguy
JIM BROWN number 1??? that's laughable.. Best rb ever was Barry Sanders.. I live in Detroit but Im not a real lions fan and I will admit that guy was sick... 10 straight years of unstoppbale force, then retired early. Never had a great line or a good team and was an ultimate competitor and could have smashed the record. period. 1. B. sanders2. W. payton3. jim brown4. Marshall Faulk5. Ladanian Tomlinson6. Emmit SmithHere is your top 6
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
1. Brown
2. Sanders
3. Payton
4. Dickerson
5. Campbell
Franco Harris does belong up there as an option.
Then again, so does Marion Motley:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MotlMa00.htm
Look, Smith was "Great", definitely belongs in the conversation, but no he is not was not shall never be better than all of those above. He is basically the Joe The Jet Perry of the current generation.
2. Sanders
3. Payton
4. Dickerson
5. Campbell
Franco Harris does belong up there as an option.
Then again, so does Marion Motley:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MotlMa00.htm
Look, Smith was "Great", definitely belongs in the conversation, but no he is not was not shall never be better than all of those above. He is basically the Joe The Jet Perry of the current generation.
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Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
Jim Brown Laughabe?????Let's compare.Rushing Yards Per GameBrown 104.33Sanders 99.79Receiving Yards Per GameBrown 21.17Sanders 19.09Touchdowns per gameBrown 1.07Sanders .71Carrer Rushing Yard Per AttemptBrown 5.2Sanders 5.0Sanders was a great back, he should be in the discussion for #2 all time, but he was tackled at or brhind the line 1/3 of his attempts. If you had 3rd and the The Lions passed, The Browns ran.Best RB of all time:Jim BrownMost exciting RB of all time:Barry SandersBest all around athlete to play RB:Walter PaytonMost exciting athlete to play RBGayle Sayers
T with T
Footballguy
Who cares if 1/3 of his runs went for neg yards the guy led the league in rushing almost all the time and was an ultimate runningback machine. He got taken out at THE GOALLINE for some stupid reason or he would have way more then 115 career tds that he has. Jim Brown played in a totally different era where defensive players were nowhere near the specimens of the 90s defenses Barry went up with inferior line play and half a team compared to what Brown had to work with.. you could argue SANDERS/BROWN all day they are 2 of the top 3 but I think Sanders, put on a good team with a good line could have had 2000 yard seasons on the norm.
adrenaline
Footballguy
If only I could run a 4.3, I may have been on this list.
Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
When you have to gain ten yards every set of downs, losing yardage 1/3 of the time is huge, especially when talking about the greatest of all time. Do you think Ruth or Aaron would be in the discussion for the great hitter ever if either had struck out 1/3 of the time? Again I think Sanders was a GREAT back, but Brown was the greatest in any era. To say Brown at number one is laughable is ill informed to put it nicely.
adrenaline
Footballguy
Horrible comparison, their teammates had very little to do with their batting stats, they had the option to use the same bats as their peers. How do you think they would have done if they had a 250-300lb man running at them while they were batting?
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
New to football?I am not old enough to say that I ever saw Jim Brown play a down of football, except for what I have seen on replays. So, in lieu of the fact that I never saw him play, I will go on what most experts who saw Brown, Payton, Barry, Emmitt, and all of the current-day RBs will tell you which is...he is, hands down, easily the #1 RB to ever play the game and one of those rare guys from a completely different era who could have been the best RB in this era (some would even half-kid that he could suit up as an old man today and still rush for 1000 yards). So to suggest that listing Brown #1 is laughable is pretty laughable, in and of itself.
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Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
Many of Sanders negitive plays were on him, his dancing style led to those losses. Jim Brown was a straight ahead punishing runner he would had had fewer negitive plays riunning behind worst lines than the Lion's ever had.Horrible comparison, their teammates had very little to do with their batting stats, they had the option to use the same bats as their peers. How do you think they would have done if they had a 250-300lb man running at them while they were batting?
fsufan
Footballguy
do not like the what if agreementswhat if Jerry Rice didn't have 2 HOF QBs throwing him the ball for the bulk of his career. we could do this all day with all playersNot saying he is not a HOF'er, but he had one of the best O-lines of the day. Just don't think he's top 5 all time. I'd be curious how he would've done running behind the Lions O-line.'fsufan said:
adrenaline
Footballguy
I wasn't arguing that Sanders was better than Brown.Many of Sanders negitive plays were on him, his dancing style led to those losses. Jim Brown was a straight ahead punishing runner he would had had fewer negitive plays riunning behind worst lines than the Lion's ever had.Horrible comparison, their teammates had very little to do with their batting stats, they had the option to use the same bats as their peers. How do you think they would have done if they had a 250-300lb man running at them while they were batting?
SWC
Bromigo
i agree my brother because if the indians all had laser guns that we would all be history and there would be no nfl at all and we would all be playing some form of lacross like games and there would be the natinal lacrosse league and since i dont really like the fancy pants ivy league boys that play lacross im glad that didnt happen to clearly jim brown is number one but jim taylor was pretty good toodo not like the what if agreementswhat if Jerry Rice didn't have 2 HOF QBs throwing him the ball for the bulk of his career. we could do this all day with all playersNot saying he is not a HOF'er, but he had one of the best O-lines of the day. Just don't think he's top 5 all time. I'd be curious how he would've done running behind the Lions O-line.'fsufan said:
Devine Intervention
Footballguy
he mostly danced behind the line because there was no hole to run through. How many times was he handed the ball and either had a guy already in the backfield or nothing but the back of his linemen?Many of Sanders negitive plays were on him, his dancing style led to those losses. Jim Brown was a straight ahead punishing runner he would had had fewer negitive plays riunning behind worst lines than the Lion's ever had.Horrible comparison, their teammates had very little to do with their batting stats, they had the option to use the same bats as their peers. How do you think they would have done if they had a 250-300lb man running at them while they were batting?
eakfootball
Footballguy
I wouldn't laugh at Smith being in or out of the top 5. I would put him at the 4-6 range.'JuSt CuZ said:Fixed!'fsufan said:
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Bo Jackson should be on the list.
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Shane Falco
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Arizona Ron
Footballguy
'fsufan said:
I hate Dallas and I know he's top 5.
