Torrey Smith (1 Viewer)

[ponchsox]

His ADP is 75 (great value IMO) and this guy is ready to be in the top 20 WR this year (possibly even top 15). He put up 800/7 as a rookie and from what I hear he has improved on his route running. Flacco limits his ceiling but I think Smith's floor is 1000/8. Thoughts?

 

[donkshow]

He's going to be a beast.

 

[12punch]

His ADP is 75 (great value IMO) and this guy is ready to be in the top 20 WR this year (possibly even top 15). He put up 800/7 as a rookie and from what I hear he has improved on his route running. Flacco limits his ceiling but I think Smith's floor is 1000/8. Thoughts?

according to him he tore his groin in that 3 td rams game and was playing with it the rest of the season.also, it looks like balt plans to let flacco whip it in wicked no huddles this year.just took him in the 6th (12 team redraft ppr 3+flex), but that was probably a round early because of the way our draft was shaking out.

 

[elshagon]

His ADP is 75 (great value IMO) and this guy is ready to be in the top 20 WR this year (possibly even top 15). He put up 800/7 as a rookie and from what I hear he has improved on his route running. Flacco limits his ceiling but I think Smith's floor is 1000/8. Thoughts?

according to him he tore his groin in that 3 td rams game and was playing with it the rest of the season.also, it looks like balt plans to let flacco whip it in wicked no huddles this year.just took him in the 6th (12 team redraft ppr 3+flex), but that was probably a round early because of the way our draft was shaking out.

I took him in the 6th as well today. I think he's in for a big year, and has a shot at top 10.

 

[12punch]

His ADP is 75 (great value IMO) and this guy is ready to be in the top 20 WR this year (possibly even top 15). He put up 800/7 as a rookie and from what I hear he has improved on his route running. Flacco limits his ceiling but I think Smith's floor is 1000/8. Thoughts?

according to him he tore his groin in that 3 td rams game and was playing with it the rest of the season.also, it looks like balt plans to let flacco whip it in wicked no huddles this year.just took him in the 6th (12 team redraft ppr 3+flex), but that was probably a round early because of the way our draft was shaking out.

I took him in the 6th as well today. I think he's in for a big year, and has a shot at top 10.

in my league that'd be around 80/1200/8 which might be a little ambitious, but he's my wr3, and I guess I could see mike wallace numbers.

 

[ponchsox]

His ADP is 75 (great value IMO) and this guy is ready to be in the top 20 WR this year (possibly even top 15). He put up 800/7 as a rookie and from what I hear he has improved on his route running. Flacco limits his ceiling but I think Smith's floor is 1000/8. Thoughts?

according to him he tore his groin in that 3 td rams game and was playing with it the rest of the season.also, it looks like balt plans to let flacco whip it in wicked no huddles this year.just took him in the 6th (12 team redraft ppr 3+flex), but that was probably a round early because of the way our draft was shaking out.

I took him in the 6th as well today. I think he's in for a big year, and has a shot at top 10.

in my league that'd be around 80/1200/8 which might be a little ambitious, but he's my wr3, and I guess I could see mike wallace numbers.

Honestly, I don't see how he won't get those numbers this year.

 

[12punch]

one thing I really like about him is that the ravens actually do run a vertical passing offense, and I drafted lee evans last year as a sleeper to try to cash that.

I think they're among the league leaders in 20+ yard pass attempts, or something like that.

 

[Sweetness_34]

one thing I really like about him is that the ravens actually do run a vertical passing offense, and I drafted lee evans last year as a sleeper to try to cash that.I think they're among the league leaders in 20+ yard pass attempts, or something like that.

That is because the only good thing Flacco can do is chuck it deep and pray someone catches it. Reading defenses; being accurate etc is not part of Flacco's game.

 

[ponchsox]

Smith had 11 targets in the last preseason game vs Jacksonville. Flacco will be looking his way a ton.

 

[johnnyboy8102]

I picked Torrey in the 8th round yesterday.

After seeing his 11 target/8 catch-103 yard performance in the 3rd pre season game I was sold.

His route running was much improved, he is clearly the #1, and Flacco looked sharp in the no huddle.

 

[mr roboto]

one thing I really like about him is that the ravens actually do run a vertical passing offense, and I drafted lee evans last year as a sleeper to try to cash that.I think they're among the league leaders in 20+ yard pass attempts, or something like that.

That is because the only good thing Flacco can do is chuck it deep and pray someone catches it. Reading defenses; being accurate etc is not part of Flacco's game.

About 2 years old on this analysis.

 

[treat88]

Flacco and Smith are a perfect match.

For all his limitations, Flacco throws one if the prettiest deep balls in the league. Smith has the extra gear to exploit that.

If he is actually running a full route tree he's going to be damn near unstoppable.

 

[mr roboto]

I think we are going to see an Eli type of progression from flacco in the next year. Came in as a rookie from a small school. We've been spoiled with rookies being very productive at the qb position.

This is the first legit #1 Flacco has had. Before this it was Mason who was a very solid pro but Smith bring another level IMO.

 

[KellysHeroes]

 

[EBF]

I think he'll have a big year. He can get deep and Flacco will be looking for him. With Boldin getting older, he's clearly looking like the WR to have from Baltimore.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I like him, but I think he will remain inconsistent this year. 44% of his fantasy production last year came during 2 games. I agree with the sentiment that Flacco throws a good deep ball (1 of his few positives), but youre essentially counting on that to hit each week for him to be better than a WR on your bench.

The WRs surrounding him at his most recent ADP are Stevie Johnson, Decker, SMITH, Garcon, Meachem, Blackmon....and I actually think Id rather have all of those WRs except for Meachem. Garcon has been a Smith-type player at this point, but I think this will be his most effective season.

Fantasy wise, Im not too high on him. Inconsistency really chaps my ###

 

[JPeso]

He's a pimp and there's really not much else to say. He's got a floor of 1,000/8 with a ceiling of 1,300/12. Route running was his major opportunity for development and guess what? He has developed. Scarrrrrry

 

[ponchsox]

I like him, but I think he will remain inconsistent this year. 44% of his fantasy production last year came during 2 games. I agree with the sentiment that Flacco throws a good deep ball (1 of his few positives), but youre essentially counting on that to hit each week for him to be better than a WR on your bench.

The WRs surrounding him at his most recent ADP are Stevie Johnson, Decker, SMITH, Garcon, Meachem, Blackmon....and I actually think Id rather have all of those WRs except for Meachem. Garcon has been a Smith-type player at this point, but I think this will be his most effective season.

Fantasy wise, Im not too high on him. Inconsistency really chaps my ###

I think that was to be expected as a rookie. I think he will be a consistent pass catcher on that team. It's clear Cam Cameron wants to throw it more this year and score more points. Who else is going to get the ball? Boldin? Dickson or Pitta? It's going to be the Rice and Torey show all season in Baltimore.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

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[VA703]

stole him in the 10th round in a 10 team

i have a feeling balt will go no huddle quite often and hes the quick scape goat

 

[fightingillini]

He's the perfect #2 or #3WR to have. You know he's going to have some huge games, and has the upside to crack the top 10 in non PPR leagues, and the top 15 WRs in PPR leagues. BAL is still going to run the ball a lot with Rice, but with teams having to gear up to stop the run, Smith is going to have many chances at big plays this year. Definitely a guy that you should target in Round 6 as your WR2 or WR3.

I got Smith in the 7th round in one of my leagues as my #2WR after I loaded up on RBs, Tom Brady and Vernon Davis, so I am pretty pleased with that.

 

[moleculo]

 

[12punch]

stole him in the 10th round in a 10 team i have a feeling balt will go no huddle quite often and hes the quick scape goat

Is that his college nickname?

 

[Kenny Powers]

I like him, but I think he will remain inconsistent this year. 44% of his fantasy production last year came during 2 games. I agree with the sentiment that Flacco throws a good deep ball (1 of his few positives), but youre essentially counting on that to hit each week for him to be better than a WR on your bench.

The WRs surrounding him at his most recent ADP are Stevie Johnson, Decker, SMITH, Garcon, Meachem, Blackmon....and I actually think Id rather have all of those WRs except for Meachem. Garcon has been a Smith-type player at this point, but I think this will be his most effective season.

Fantasy wise, Im not too high on him. Inconsistency really chaps my ###

I think that was to be expected as a rookie. I think he will be a consistent pass catcher on that team. It's clear Cam Cameron wants to throw it more this year and score more points. Who else is going to get the ball? Boldin? Dickson or Pitta? It's going to be the Rice and Torey show all season in Baltimore.

Yeah, I think inconsistency can be more common as a rookie, but he had as good of a season as he did because his biggest skill is his speed and deep threat ability. While he probably has improved his route running and gotten more plays in the playbook, that is still the case Im guessing at this point, and they will still be sending him deep plenty (IMO limiting his possible production some). Why is it clear they are going to throw the ball more? Because of the preseason playcalling?? Did it occur to you that maybe that had as much to do with not using Rice in the preseason (they know what they got there, obviously) as it did passing more? Flacco had over 40 more attempts than his previous high in 2011, and approached 550 attempts last year. That offense and QB isnt built for many more attempts than that. Cam Cameron has been there 5 years, its not like he is the new OC looking to install a high octane offense. The Ravens and Flacco are NOT going to be a 600 passing attempt team.And again, his QB is Joey freakin Flacco, which will limit his ceiling. People are saying his ceiling is 12 TD's, that wouldve been 60% of Falco's TDs last year (48% of his career high in 2010). Even if Flacco has a career year for say 28 TDs, Torrey getting 12 TDs would still be 43% of Flacco's production. The elite WR's dont have TD rates remotely close to this, and there is no way Torrey Smith is all of a sudden going to buck that trend.

 

[ponchsox]

I like him, but I think he will remain inconsistent this year. 44% of his fantasy production last year came during 2 games. I agree with the sentiment that Flacco throws a good deep ball (1 of his few positives), but youre essentially counting on that to hit each week for him to be better than a WR on your bench.

The WRs surrounding him at his most recent ADP are Stevie Johnson, Decker, SMITH, Garcon, Meachem, Blackmon....and I actually think Id rather have all of those WRs except for Meachem. Garcon has been a Smith-type player at this point, but I think this will be his most effective season.

Fantasy wise, Im not too high on him. Inconsistency really chaps my ###

I think that was to be expected as a rookie. I think he will be a consistent pass catcher on that team. It's clear Cam Cameron wants to throw it more this year and score more points. Who else is going to get the ball? Boldin? Dickson or Pitta? It's going to be the Rice and Torey show all season in Baltimore.

Yeah, I think inconsistency can be more common as a rookie, but he had as good of a season as he did because his biggest skill is his speed and deep threat ability. While he probably has improved his route running and gotten more plays in the playbook, that is still the case Im guessing at this point, and they will still be sending him deep plenty (IMO limiting his possible production some). Why is it clear they are going to throw the ball more? Because of the preseason playcalling?? Did it occur to you that maybe that had as much to do with not using Rice in the preseason (they know what they got there, obviously) as it did passing more? Flacco had over 40 more attempts than his previous high in 2011, and approached 550 attempts last year. That offense and QB isnt built for many more attempts than that. Cam Cameron has been there 5 years, its not like he is the new OC looking to install a high octane offense. The Ravens and Flacco are NOT going to be a 600 passing attempt team.And again, his QB is Joey freakin Flacco, which will limit his ceiling. People are saying his ceiling is 12 TD's, that wouldve been 60% of Falco's TDs last year (48% of his career high in 2010). Even if Flacco has a career year for say 28 TDs, Torrey getting 12 TDs would still be 43% of Flacco's production. The elite WR's dont have TD rates remotely close to this, and there is no way Torrey Smith is all of a sudden going to buck that trend.

I'm not saying that they are going to be a pass happy juggernaut like the Lions. I suspect that if they want to get the Superbowl, they are going to have to score more points to beat the Patriots. I just think that all of the stars are aligning for Smith to be a #1 WR. Boldin isn't going to be that guy and neither are the TEs.

 

[JPeso]

And again, his QB is Joey freakin Flacco, which will limit his ceiling.

Is this really a negative?

 

[Kenny Powers]

I like him, but I think he will remain inconsistent this year. 44% of his fantasy production last year came during 2 games. I agree with the sentiment that Flacco throws a good deep ball (1 of his few positives), but youre essentially counting on that to hit each week for him to be better than a WR on your bench.

The WRs surrounding him at his most recent ADP are Stevie Johnson, Decker, SMITH, Garcon, Meachem, Blackmon....and I actually think Id rather have all of those WRs except for Meachem. Garcon has been a Smith-type player at this point, but I think this will be his most effective season.

Fantasy wise, Im not too high on him. Inconsistency really chaps my ###

I think that was to be expected as a rookie. I think he will be a consistent pass catcher on that team. It's clear Cam Cameron wants to throw it more this year and score more points. Who else is going to get the ball? Boldin? Dickson or Pitta? It's going to be the Rice and Torey show all season in Baltimore.

Yeah, I think inconsistency can be more common as a rookie, but he had as good of a season as he did because his biggest skill is his speed and deep threat ability. While he probably has improved his route running and gotten more plays in the playbook, that is still the case Im guessing at this point, and they will still be sending him deep plenty (IMO limiting his possible production some). Why is it clear they are going to throw the ball more? Because of the preseason playcalling?? Did it occur to you that maybe that had as much to do with not using Rice in the preseason (they know what they got there, obviously) as it did passing more? Flacco had over 40 more attempts than his previous high in 2011, and approached 550 attempts last year. That offense and QB isnt built for many more attempts than that. Cam Cameron has been there 5 years, its not like he is the new OC looking to install a high octane offense. The Ravens and Flacco are NOT going to be a 600 passing attempt team.And again, his QB is Joey freakin Flacco, which will limit his ceiling. People are saying his ceiling is 12 TD's, that wouldve been 60% of Falco's TDs last year (48% of his career high in 2010). Even if Flacco has a career year for say 28 TDs, Torrey getting 12 TDs would still be 43% of Flacco's production. The elite WR's dont have TD rates remotely close to this, and there is no way Torrey Smith is all of a sudden going to buck that trend.

I'm not saying that they are going to be a pass happy juggernaut like the Lions. I suspect that if they want to get the Superbowl, they are going to have to score more points to beat the Patriots. I just think that all of the stars are aligning for Smith to be a #1 WR. Boldin isn't going to be that guy and neither are the TEs.

Smith's ADP is 72, Boldin's is 105, Dickson's is 186, and Pitta isnt being drafted. I think everyone knows who the #1 passing option is in BAL. Not that it would be impossible, but within this offense and his role, Id be surprised to see Smith go for well over 1000 yards and more than 9 TDs.That said, his ADP right before the WRs fall off a cliff so I think he's a good buy late 6th/early 7th.

 

[Kenny Powers]

And again, his QB is Joey freakin Flacco, which will limit his ceiling.

Is this really a negative?

Well, there's more than a dozen QB's in the NFL that he'd be better off with, so while not a negative exactly, I dont think having an average QB is helping him out here.

 

[ponchsox]

 

[cstu]

I like him, but I think he will remain inconsistent this year. 44% of his fantasy production last year came during 2 games. I agree with the sentiment that Flacco throws a good deep ball (1 of his few positives), but youre essentially counting on that to hit each week for him to be better than a WR on your bench.

The WRs surrounding him at his most recent ADP are Stevie Johnson, Decker, SMITH, Garcon, Meachem, Blackmon....and I actually think Id rather have all of those WRs except for Meachem. Garcon has been a Smith-type player at this point, but I think this will be his most effective season.

Fantasy wise, Im not too high on him. Inconsistency really chaps my ###

I think that was to be expected as a rookie. I think he will be a consistent pass catcher on that team. It's clear Cam Cameron wants to throw it more this year and score more points. Who else is going to get the ball? Boldin? Dickson or Pitta? It's going to be the Rice and Torey show all season in Baltimore.

Yeah, I think inconsistency can be more common as a rookie, but he had as good of a season as he did because his biggest skill is his speed and deep threat ability. While he probably has improved his route running and gotten more plays in the playbook, that is still the case Im guessing at this point, and they will still be sending him deep plenty (IMO limiting his possible production some). Why is it clear they are going to throw the ball more? Because of the preseason playcalling?? Did it occur to you that maybe that had as much to do with not using Rice in the preseason (they know what they got there, obviously) as it did passing more? Flacco had over 40 more attempts than his previous high in 2011, and approached 550 attempts last year. That offense and QB isnt built for many more attempts than that. Cam Cameron has been there 5 years, its not like he is the new OC looking to install a high octane offense. The Ravens and Flacco are NOT going to be a 600 passing attempt team.And again, his QB is Joey freakin Flacco, which will limit his ceiling. People are saying his ceiling is 12 TD's, that wouldve been 60% of Falco's TDs last year (48% of his career high in 2010). Even if Flacco has a career year for say 28 TDs, Torrey getting 12 TDs would still be 43% of Flacco's production. The elite WR's dont have TD rates remotely close to this, and there is no way Torrey Smith is all of a sudden going to buck that trend.

I'm not saying that they are going to be a pass happy juggernaut like the Lions. I suspect that if they want to get the Superbowl, they are going to have to score more points to beat the Patriots. I just think that all of the stars are aligning for Smith to be a #1 WR. Boldin isn't going to be that guy and neither are the TEs.

Smith's ADP is 72, Boldin's is 105, Dickson's is 186, and Pitta isnt being drafted. I think everyone knows who the #1 passing option is in BAL. Not that it would be impossible, but within this offense and his role, Id be surprised to see Smith go for well over 1000 yards and more than 9 TDs.That said, his ADP right before the WRs fall off a cliff so I think he's a good buy late 6th/early 7th.

Receiving TD's are going to be tough to come by in this offense so I don't expect him to quite get to 10 TD's, but 1000 is not hard for him to reach. He didn't play the first two games last year and ended up with 841 yards. 70/1050/9 doesn't seem unreasonable.

 

[Raider Nation]

Started Nicks over Smith this week (non-PPR). They were very, very close in all the rankings I looked at.

After the very first play of the game tonight, Smith had more points than Nicks.

Didn't cost me, fortunately. He's not coming out of my lineup anytime soon. He looks so explosive.

 

[fire_tune]

Like that double reverse they run with Smith. His speed is just

 

[jbz]

he's pretty much MIA now. Got the Bengals attention more. Opening up space for Boldin

 

[shadyridr]

1 target

 

[shadyridr]

suddenly not feeling so good about this now lol

 

[SeanTaylor21]

suddenly not feeling so good about this now lol

Flacco hasn't even looked at him since the reverse... Frustrating

 

[DeaLerZ]

suddenly not feeling so good about this now lol

Flacco hasn't even looked at him since the reverse... Frustrating

yea starting to regret picking Torrey Smith over Reggie Wayne... 1 target compared to 17...

 

[SameSongNDance]

I'm going against him, which means another 50 yard bomb is coming soon.

 

[swidman]

He was one of my keepers in a five player keeper league and tonight is somewhat reminding me of last season....boom or bust.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

suddenly not feeling so good about this now lol

Flacco hasn't even looked at him since the reverse... Frustrating

yea starting to regret picking Torrey Smith over Reggie Wayne... 1 target compared to 17...

Flacco underthrows him on a nice move as well. They rant and rave about how much better he's gotten but you'd never know.

 

[Minne]

Hes starting to get some looks. Relax

 

[Irish Chaos]

I'm going against him, which means another 50 yard bomb is coming soon.

this...

 

[Minne]

He will have a huge game next week.

 

[shadyridr]

He will have a huge game next week.

against asomugah?

 

[Raider Nation]

This game was in Baltimore's control from the beginning. You could see that the short passing game to the tight ends was a big part of their game plan in order to offset Cincy selling out to stop Rice. When the games are closer, Smith will be a bigger factor.

Was that convincing at all?

 

[shadyridr]

This game was in Baltimore's control from the beginning. You could see that the short passing game to the tight ends was a big part of their game plan in order to offset Cincy selling out to stop Rice. When the games are closer, Smith will be a bigger factor.

Was that convincing at all?

lol good try. the kid looked good but ill temper expectations. id stick with nicks

 

[Kenny Powers]

Nice premature bump 2/57 on 3 targets, with Flacco looking quite good and having tons of time all game. Still looks like he'll be an inconsistent fantasy guy to me.

 

[Gawain]

Nice premature bump 2/57 on 3 targets, with Flacco looking quite good and having tons of time all game. Still looks like he'll be an inconsistent fantasy guy to me.

If Clements doesn't absolutely mug Smith in the endzone, he would have ended up with 90 total yards and a touch. Can't hate on this game at all for Smith. He is involved in the offense and has potential to score on any play.

 

[chinawildman]

4 targets 2 catches 57 yds 1 rush 13 yds. What's the big deal? There are plenty of guys drafted ahead of Smith (Nicks, Cruz, Jennings, Welker, Lloyd, Decker, Fitz, ...) that had similar or worse #s. He hasn't even started 16 games yet, have some patience.

 

[12punch]

the big deal is I needed that torrey td for my draftstreet league