Trading Foles for Maclin and McCown (1 Viewer)

[dirtyd30z]

Hey guys,

I'm league Commish and there has already been a trade requested. I cannot see how this trade makes any sense or let it be fair to the league. I usually approve trades, but this trade doesnt seem fair to anybody in the league. Can anybody see the positive of this trade going thru?

Player A current roster: Foles/Lynch/Martin/Cruz/Crabtree. QB2: Stafford QB3: Kaepernick Other WRs: Shorts/Bowe/Austin

Player B current roser: Dalton/Charles/Bush/Nelson/White/Spiller QB2: McCown Other WRs: White/ Maclin/ Cooper

How can I justify letting this trade go thru? Can you? Any input good or bad is appreciated. Thanks.

 

[BroadwayG]

What's wrong with it?

Don't be 'that' commish.

Actually it would be better if you took off commish approval for trades and let people manage their own teams.

 

[mr roboto]

What's wrong with it?

Don't be 'that' commish.

Actually it would be better if you took off commish approval for trades and let people manage their own teams.

Bingo.

 

[John Paul]

I am against blocking trades unless you can prove collusion.

 

[John 14:6]

I really don't see anything wrong with it at all.

 

[Skoo]

So someone drafted Stafford, Foles, AND Kaepernick?

Either way, it's not an unfair trade. Maclin and Foles have a similar ADP, and McCown is a low-end #2 QB.

 

[RedZone]

A is talent heavy at QB, WR poor; B is WR heavy and QB poor.

How is this not benefiting both?

Assume A will have to drop one to open roster spot, so he is also losing another player.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Trade looks fine to me on the surface, without knowing the league rules.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I can't even figure out which side you think is getting ripped off.

 

[iamkoza]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

 

[Dr. Octopus]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

I think maybe he wanted Maclin.

 

[Griffindor]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

What? He doesn't want McCown, he wants Maclin.

 

[nittanylion]

It depends on the individual League, but every League I've ever founded, Commissioned or been in, it's been one of the Commish's duties to 'preserve the integrity of the League' - however, I don't think this means being heavy-handed interfering with commerce between Owners unless a large majority of Owners approaches you with a concern. Otherwise, they've paid for their Team, it's theirs to manage. The only exception being collusion...

...where you have to take a heavy-handed approach, in my opinion, is in clearly defining exactly what your League is (as in, a code of conduct that all Owners agree to), so you can eliminate as much grey area, middle ground and 'open to interpretation' as possible, and every Owner knows what's expected and where they stand when it comes to engaging in predatory behavior (or not - I'm not condemning anything here; I'm in both cutthroat Leagues and gentlemen's Leagues, and have no problem with either).

...and constantly evaluating and re-evaluating the quality/acumen of the Ownership base, which includes having a pipeline of potential replacement Owners, and the balls to remove an Owner if they show a transactional track record that indicates they aren't on the same level as the rest of the group - as in, they repeatedly engage in transactions that have the other Owners complaining (except the Owner who took advantage of the League ATM, of course), that throw the League out of balance, or otherwise disrupt the integrity of the League.

In almost all cases, I've found that if you have an Ownership group whose acumen level is relatively equal across the board, and allow them to police themselves as much as possible, most problems of this sort are minimized.

 

[Bronco Billy]

That didn't go as planned.

 

[mquinnjr]

Any league where a commissioner, or other owners, wish to reject a non-collusive (e.g., cheating) trade between two consenting owners, is not a league worth investing one's time.

 

[chad in Indy]

I can't even figure out which side you think is getting ripped off.

I can't either.

 

[iamkoza]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

What? He doesn't want McCown, he wants Maclin.

you said he got maclin AND mccown... im questioning why he wanted mccown instead of cooper or another non QB

 

[zandbak]

Must be OPs first year as a commish. Hint: quit being that guy.

 

[hxperson]

Deal seems fair from a talent perspective. It also makes both teams better. What's the issue?

 

[cstu]

Hey guys,

I'm league Commish and there has already been a trade requested. I cannot see how this trade makes any sense or let it be fair to the league. I usually approve trades, but this trade doesnt seem fair to anybody in the league. Can anybody see the positive of this trade going thru?

Player A current roster: Foles/Lynch/Martin/Cruz/Crabtree. QB2: Stafford QB3: Kaepernick Other WRs: Shorts/Bowe/Austin

Player B current roser: Dalton/Charles/Bush/Nelson/White/Spiller QB2: McCown Other WRs: White/ Maclin/ Cooper

How can I justify letting this trade go thru? Can you? Any input good or bad is appreciated. Thanks.

Are you that worried about B upgrading from Dalton to Foles, especially when he's giving up his #3 WR to do it?

It's a fair deal.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

good god

 

[habsfan]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

I think maybe he wanted Maclin.

... and maybe he puts another deal together with someone else to move Stafford or Kaep or McCown or...

 

[utche96]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that trade. What do you find so unfair about it?

 

[Griffindor]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

What? He doesn't want McCown, he wants Maclin.

you said he got maclin AND mccown... im questioning why he wanted mccown instead of cooper or another non QB

Have you ever traded before? Of course he would want Maclin and Cooper if he could get them. Hell, why don't we question why he wanted Maclin instead of Charles?

 

[iamkoza]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

What? He doesn't want McCown, he wants Maclin.

you said he got maclin AND mccown... im questioning why he wanted mccown instead of cooper or another non QB

Have you ever traded before? Of course he would want Maclin and Cooper if he could get them. Hell, why don't we question why he wanted Maclin instead of Charles?

wtf is wrong with you? i pose a perfectly legitimate question as to why someone who has stafford and kap would be trading FOR josh mccown and i get crapped on...

 

[FreeBaGeL]

i dont get it... why would he want mccown when he has stafford and kap already.... it doesnt look like anything more than a bad trade from a dumb owner

What? He doesn't want McCown, he wants Maclin.

you said he got maclin AND mccown... im questioning why he wanted mccown instead of cooper or another non QB

Have you ever traded before? Of course he would want Maclin and Cooper if he could get them. Hell, why don't we question why he wanted Maclin instead of Charles?

wtf is wrong with you? i pose a perfectly legitimate question as to why someone who has stafford and kap would be trading FOR josh mccown and i get crapped on...

He wasn't trading for McCown. McCown was just a throw-in. There's nothing wrong with getting throw-ins at positions you're already strong at. It leaves you a lot of flexibility. Now he can dangle one of Kaep/Stafford if he wants to.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Start hiding money!

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Actually it would be better if you took off commish approval for trades and let people manage their own teams.

 

[shadyridr]

First punch yourself in the face and then Please quit as commish of your league and give it to someone more responsible. There is nothing wrong with that trade at all and the fact you are even questioning a fair trade worries me when a lopsided deal goes thru.

 

[Leonidas]

IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT THE SHARK POOL Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum.

 

[Hankmoody]

IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT THE SHARK POOL Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum.

And he has done neither. Don't be salty just because you got shut down.

 

[Leonidas]

IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT THE SHARK POOL Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum.

And he has done neither. Don't be salty just because you got shut down.

I also did neither

My post was the exact same thing.

Explain, I don't get it

 

[Dismattle]

Hey guys,

I'm league Commish and there has already been a trade requested. I cannot see how this trade makes any sense or let it be fair to the league. I usually approve trades, but this trade doesnt seem fair to anybody in the league. Can anybody see the positive of this trade going thru?

Player A current roster: Foles/Lynch/Martin/Cruz/Crabtree. QB2: Stafford QB3: Kaepernick Other WRs: Shorts/Bowe/Austin

Player B current roser: Dalton/Charles/Bush/Nelson/White/Spiller QB2: McCown Other WRs: White/ Maclin/ Cooper

How can I justify letting this trade go thru? Can you? Any input good or bad is appreciated. Thanks.

I will try to help ya out here..

The Foles owner is possibly concerned w Crabtree, and likes the upside of Maclin? Im not sure if this is possible, but I could see a person changing their opinion of both Foles and Stafford. Stafford could be the man, as per reports..

The Dalton Owner has to CYA because of all the GameManager talk of having a Run first Team Is that supposed to be Roddy? Why listed twice? Anyway I could see the Dalton owner figuring one if not both Dalton / Foles will put up numbers fwiw McCown will probably enjoy some game managing too..

Basically Im in agreement w the Dr. which side you think getting shafted?

p.s. Normally I like to see the whole team, but in this case I think the RBs kinda do more harm than good. I mean I hope you aint expecting to see a counter suggested

 

[renesauz]

Quit being a commissioner.