TheFanatic
Footballguy
That first letter doesn't get the meat of the situation until the big paragraph 2-3 paragraphs down. anything above that should not be put in writing. Ride this thing out and don't put anything in writing.
if you think it would help .....If you consider me one of them, I'm available to draft something for you, Ren. I don't think it will turn out the way you want it to, though.
Unless ren is completely blowing smoke, this is the deal:Still have no idea what's happening in here.
You're basically confirming her allegations with this.This woman was hired on to work a technical position. Former hairdresser. I'd been tasked with training her for it. She's wildly unprofessional, can't take criticism and has been a complete liability from the second the manager hired her without our input, and I'm the one getting #### on for it, but other than that she's an ok person. Today she forgot to enter in a patient history on the computer and asked me 'well why wasn't there a patient history?' I said, "because you didn't put one there." That's when she stormed out saying 'I'm gonna talk to personnel,' muttered something about 'gonna snap.' Here's a brief rundown and statement I'm thinking about turning in tomorrow.
I'd really rather not give up too much about personal details and line of work. So there's some redacted stuff here. But really appreciate the advice (or failing that, piping hot takes).
I'm a total poopyhead on here of course, but I'm generally pretty easy in real life. What do I do going forward?
This is pretty much the beginning and end of it.Unless ren is completely blowing smoke, this is the deal:
Completely overwhelmed and unqualified new hire is brought on at ren's work. Ren is training new hire on her new position. New hire is pretty obviously out of her depth. New hire also has a bad attitude about her job and shows signs of being there for the wrong reasons (e.g. less to give an honest effort at performing her job, and more to exploit the apparently generous employee health package). New hire is now pretty much lying to HR to sink ren professionally.
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I understand ren hoek's political stances aren't popular ... but if the OP is taken at face value (can't stress that enough ... the big "if"), ren seems to be almost 100% in the right here. Surely most all of us have seen or even personally dealt with employees like the new hire described in the OP.
Any chance whatsoever that the new hire would've been able to tell that you were frustrated with her? How buttoned-up and professional have you been with her?I'm guessing just about anyone put in this situation would get incredibly frustrated under the same circumstances.
Should have more blanks so we can Mad-Lib it.This woman was hired on to work a technical position. Former hairdresser. I'd been tasked with training her for it. She's wildly unprofessional, can't take criticism and has been a complete liability from the second the manager hired her without our input, and I'm the one getting #### on for it, but other than that she's an ok person. Today she forgot to enter in a patient history on the computer and asked me 'well why wasn't there a patient history?' I said, "because you didn't put one there." That's when she stormed out saying 'I'm gonna talk to personnel,' muttered something about 'gonna snap.' Here's a brief rundown and statement I'm thinking about turning in tomorrow.
I'd really rather not give up too much about personal details and line of work. So there's some redacted stuff here. But really appreciate the advice (or failing that, piping hot takes).
I'm a total poopyhead on here of course, but I'm generally pretty easy in real life. What do I do going forward?
He'd probably end up in jail.Yeah, but how would THE HERBAL ENFORCER handle this?
Take that to the pizza basement brozzarellaSWC said:maybe blast her with some of your patented deep state conspiracy theories about using pizza made in a hidden basement to assasinate julian asange and blow her mind up then she will probably go on disability due to her blown up mind and your issues will be solved bam another problem solved by the old swcer take that to the bank brochacho
Torque Bow down?ren hoek said:I never felt comfortable continuing to invest time in her as a tech after she came back from the fall. She was a liability already and even if training went pitch perfect after that, it was still just a matter of humoring the training process for 90 days until she gets insurance and goes in for gastrointestinal surgery. Then foot surgery after that. She would disappear a lot and be on the phone in the other doctor's office and I didn't think much of it, but there were a lot of instances where I had to ask around 'where's Jeanine?'
The person who broke her fall, a 60-year old lady, suggested she may have been faking it and wouldn't save her again. New hire is 300 pounds and it hurt the front desk lady's back to ease the fall. Now I don't know if that's true or not but she looked at me like she meant it.
When trainee was in the hospital, she would call in periodically to update us on her status. Every day you miss is a mark on attendance, once you have so many the company automatically starts considering termination for the employee. The manager told her she couldn't return without a doctor's note giving permission for her to work without restrictions. And I think he intentionally left her on the schedule so she would accrue the 3 or 4 points she did. We all think she's a problem and the only person who didn't see it coming a mile away is the manager. And me apparently.
I think there's a line to be drawn between saying something threatening like 'you wanna flip burgers at 41?', and telling her she's not doing something right and she needs to do it better. I don't know if an impatient tone of voice constitutes a hostile work environment. I sure hope not.
The average high schooler has a better outlook and work ethic than she does. We needed someone sophisticated and technical and she just isn't a good fit. Like I said I've trained many people for precisely this line of work time and again no problem. The whole thing is just total baloney.
It wouldn't have been hard to figure out I was past the handholding phase. I'd say it was about week 3 and she's still fumbling around with very basic stuff. She had mentioned before that she doesn't respond to my teaching style. I think a more scholarly person that took a genuine interest in the trade would have found it helpful if a little demanding. For a passing pedestrian with no technical knowledge, predisposition for machinery and computers, or apparent desire to actually learn the job she was being trained for, I think it could be overwhelming. I'd say I was fair on things she had rightful questions about, but impatient when I had to rehash extremely basic concepts with her.Doug B said:Any chance whatsoever that the new hire would've been able to tell that you were frustrated with her? How buttoned-up and professional have you been with her?
Me too. I was wondering what I may have said to someone last night while drunk.I thought this was going to be a RockNRole thread. I really did.
Like a hospital would hire me.did you forget to sign in with your RokNRole alias?
Nope, they sure haven't. I thought it would be savvy to submit a statement as soon as I heard about it. Almost handed it in a manila folder to the manager yesterday, but figured I'd get some advice here first. Gf and doctor both thought it was fair enough to turn in.Has anybody higher up even asked you to comment about trainee complaining about you?
It sounds like everyone knows she's a problem and they aren't even putting any weight (pun intended) into her #####ing. They know she's blowing smoke.
Dont be so defensive. You've done nothing wrong. You're the long-term employee who has a good track record and was asked to train this unqualified person.
If you get asked for your opinion keep it professional and performance based (hers). Only verbally. This isn't about you.
Even if he's right, he will look very, very bad by saying it.i have noticed that you are way in to conspiracy theories around here and now with this new hire you have conspiracies that she faked her fall and that she was going to go get two surgeries immediately after 90 days on the job man maybe just simmer down a little with trying to figure out everyones nofarieous purposes take that to the bank brohan
he could get a new suit and a haircut maybe trim any stray ear or nose hairs and then bam he might look damn good saying it look im just sayin that you never know how someone is gonna clean up take that to the bank brohanEven if he's right, he will look very, very bad by saying it.i have noticed that you are way in to conspiracy theories around here and now with this new hire you have conspiracies that she faked her fall and that she was going to go get two surgeries immediately after 90 days on the job man maybe just simmer down a little with trying to figure out everyones nofarieous purposes take that to the bank brohan
Nah... Ren has a job.I thought this was going to be a RockNRole thread. I really did.
he could get a new suit and a haircut maybe trim any stray ear or nose hairs and then bam he might look damn good saying it look im just sayin that you never know how someone is gonna clean up take that to the bank brohan
Wait - she's not really gone, is she? If she is, your OP would be merely academic, wouldn't it?The doctor rejoiced yesterday that she was gone. Another coworker today told me she thinks it's just a personality clash. They respect and appreciate me but don't hold any grudge against Jeanine either. At this point I probably just let the chips fall where they may and keep my head down.
Oh, sorry. She's been reassigned to a retail position, but is still with the company. It's separate but under the same umbrella.Wait - she's not really gone, is she? If she is, your OP would be merely academic, wouldn't it?
You would be amazed on the people they hire. Amazed!Like a hospital would hire me.