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Travdogg's final 2025 mock draft (3 rounds) (post draft grades on page 2) (1 Viewer)

My 2025 NFL Draft Grades, with some analysis on high picks or guys I think make a difference. Not gonna hit on everyone.

A+
1. Cleveland
Added 1 great player in Graham, 3 good players in Schwesinger, Sampson, and Sanders, a decent player in Judkins, and got the Jags 2026 1st rounder. Sure Fannin wasn't a need, and the Gabriel pick was dumb, but so what? They added more quality to their team than anyone in my eyes, even if the path was a bit unorthodox.

A
2. New England
Got the long-term LT in Campbell, 2 good big play skill guys in Henderson and Williams, one of the biggest steals of the draft in Swinson, and a good Center prospect in Wilson.

3. Tennessee
Cam Ward was the only franchise QB and they got him, that's always gonna boost the grade. Winston and Ayomanor were steals who both look like starters to me. Oladejo is a decent situational pass rusher.

A-
4. Carolina
I think McMillan is a #1 and a great prospect. Scourton and Princely should be their long-term starting EDGEs, and Ransom should push for a starting S job.

B+
5. Atlanta
I'm not the hugest Walker fan, but EDGE was a monster need, and Walker and Pearce give them long-term starters there. The #1 may be an overpay, but if they are right on Penix, it probably doesn't matter. I thought Watts was steal, and likely their long-term starter opposite Bates. This was arguably the worst defense on paper before the draft, not anymore.

6. NY Giants
Abdul Carter is a stud. One of 3 gamechangers in this class. I thought Dart was the worst pick of the draft, if that would have been a player I felt was a good pick there, they'd be #1 though. Alexander is a nice complement to Lawrence, I think Skattebo will be their starting RB, and I think he's underrated, and I like Mbow as a utility OL at worst.

B
7. Chicago
I like Loveland, and I've always felt Kmet was overrated, so no issues there. Maybe not the biggest need, but a great prospect. Loved Burden in round 2, and I think he's a sneaky candidate to be better the #1 long term in this suddenly loaded offense. Trapilo is a solid swing T, who maybe amounts to more, same with Turner at DT.

8. Las Vegas
Jeanty is a stud, I have no issues with a RB at #6. Bech strikes me as a career #2 WR. Porter has elite CB traits, but raw, well worth the pick to me. 2 fliers on OTs, I like Grant more than Rogers.

9. Kansas City
1st playoff team on the list. Simmons may have been the best OL in the draft before injury. Norman-Lott is a solid complement to Chris Jones. I think Royals has #2 WR talent, just had small school/injuries. Gillette is a decent 3rd EDGE. Williams was whatever, I think he'll get lost in the CB shuffle.

10. Dallas
I would make a case for Ezeiruaku as the #2 EDGE in the class, he and Parsons are gonna terrorize QBs. Booker was a reach but is still a quality starter. Revel was a nice pick and could be the #2 CB with Diggs uncertain.

B-
11. Baltimore
Starks opposite Hamilton might be the best Safety combo in the NFL. Mike Green was potentially a giant steal, who could easily be the #1 EDGE for them. After that, meh. I think Emery Jones is just backup material.

12. Arizona
Walter Nolen and Will Johnson could be topflight additions to a potentially top-10 defense. Burch gives utility DL vibes.

C+
13. Seattle
Grey Zabel was a little high for me, but filled a big need. I think Arroyo is a solid NFL starting TE. Martinez is a solid NFL #2 RB in my eyes. I think Emmanwori and Milroe are high upside fliers, but I could easily see neither amounting to much.

14. Buffalo
Nothing I love, but 3 guys (Jackson, Hairston, Sanders) that I think will be solid starters.

C
15. Tampa Bay
I think Egbuka and to a lesser extent Morrison have #1 traits. TB has the best WR room in the NFL in my eyes. Parrish felt like a waste of a pick. Hard to see him seeing the field. I liked Roberts as a utility DL type.

16. NY Jets
Membou was nice marriage of need and talent. I'm not a big Mason Taylor guy, I think he's an ok prospect, who is gonna need to be more given the lack of pass catching talent here. Thomas is pretty slow for a CB, but I think he can push for a role there.

17. Washington
Knocked it out of the park with Conerly and especially Amos in my eyes. Just don't think they got anything else of value.

18. Indianapolis
Tyler Warren was a nice pick, can they build the pass game around him like Penn State did? I think Tuimoloau is probably Paye's replacement after this season. Giddens gives them an actual backup behind oft-inured Taylor. I'm not a big Walley fan, and CB wasn't a need, whatever.
 
C-

19. Philadelphia

Jihaad Campbell could pair with Baun as the best LB combo in the NFL. I also think Makuba could potentially start at FS, despite his size. I think Cameron Williams is an interesting OT project.

20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

D+

21. Denver

Barron was a great pick, he and Surtain could end up being the best CB duo in the NFL. After that though...RJ Harvey strikes me as a good 3rd down/COP RB. Not a difference maker. Pat Bryant is a big nothing pick to me. Be shocked if he was ever a top-3 WR.

22. Cincinnati

I can live with the Stewart pick, though I'm not a big fan of traits guys who had no production. I liked the Knight pick in round 2, he's older sure, but he's gonna be a solid starter for years to come. Fairchild going on day 2 made my head hurt, I thought he was Georgia's worst OL. I doubt he wins a starting job even on a needy OL.

D

23. San Francisco

I think SF was right identifying their holes, but I think made some bad picks. Williams was a big reach in my mind. I get that's where a toolsy 20-year-old starter from Georgia goes, but I don't have to like it, because I think he's a project.I like West slightly more than Collins at DT but probably would have switched the order and taken DT then EDGE given their neediness. 1 great DT (Nolen? Grant?) would help more than 2 ok ones. I literally didn't know who Martin or Stout were.

24. Houston

I'm fine with where Higgins and Noel went, I just think taking both was overkill. WR is deep for them at least with Metchie suddenly on the roster bubble. Ersery was a reach in my opinion, despite being a 23-year-old I think he's a bit raw. Thought trading down from #25 was a bad call, missing out on the Joshes at OT. Felt OL was a much bigger need than WR. I don't see Smith as anything more than a ST guy.

25. Jacksonville

I think Travis Hunter was the best player in this class. Huge fan of the guy. But man, they gave up a lot, including next year's #1. Probably wouldn't be so bad, but I'm not sure they got much else. I think Ransaw is a ST guy, and Milum feels like a utility OL. Based on interviews with GM/HC it sounds like Hunter will be a full time WR who plays some CB. I think the reverse would be more helpful, but whatever.

26. Pittsburgh

I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need. QB/RB/OL/CB were all much bigger. Kaleb Johnson likely slips right into Najee's role as lead RB who gives up touches to Warren. Might have preferred Hampton in round 1, and DL (West?) in round 3. I think Jack Sawyer is a nice depth piece, but its not like that was an issue, with Herbig around. Feels like OL/CB are just gonna continue being issues. I'm assuming Rodgers shows up, but if not, this is the worst QB room in the NFL.

D-

27. Miami

I like Kenneth Grant, and DT was a big need, maybe not the ideal pick, but not bad at all. I'm not a Savaainaea guy. I think he's more a utility OL. That's better than Eichenberg sure, but that doesn't make it a good pick. I like Jordan Phillips as a rotational DT. Run D should at least be fixed. Ignoring Safety was a choice given they arguably are the worst team in the NFL there. Secondary could be a massive issue if they deal Ramsey, though maybe that's not happening anymore.

28. Detroit

This was setting up as a boring meat and potatoes draft and then it went off the rails. I think Tyleik Williams is a good prospect, maybe not 1st round good, but solid starter good. I find Tate Ratledge is fine, but not sure he's a starter as a rookie. I liked Mahogany, and didn't think OL was a pressing need. TeSlaa was just burning a pick in my opinion. Not a fan of combine warriors with no production on day 2. Doubt he even challenges Raymond or Patrick. Very surprised they didn't touch EDGE, with Hitch coming off an ACL and Davenport currently pegged as the other starter.

F

29. New Orleans

I like Kelvin Banks, though I do wonder if he sticks at LT, they needed OL help badly. Broughton is an ok round 3 pick as a rotational DL, again a big need. Jonas Sanker made no sense to me at all, both how high he went, and NO taking a Safety when its their strongest position on the team. I don't get Tyler Shough at all. I thought he was a huge reach, and I think they'll regret passing on better QB prospects (especially Sanders, not to sound like Kiper) he's old, he's fragile, he plays scared. I would have rather gone with Rattler/vet if Carr is out all year, and reassessed next year if they weren't going Sanders, or at least even Milroe.

30. Green Bay

Matthew Golden was absolutely the right pick if they weren't going DL. I think he'll have little trouble ascending to #1 WR on what I feel is a pretty overrated WR room. After that they may as well have just gone home, except since the draft was in GB they already were. Belton was a huge reach in my eyes as a developmental OT in round 2 doesn't help much right now. Savion Williams feels like burning a pick. They don't need a returner, they don't need a gadget guy. Where's he playing? CB/DL got ignored despite being needs. They desperately need Wyatt and Van Ness to play to their draft positions. Little reason to think that happens. What's Alexander's status?

31. LA Rams

I like that they got the Falcons 1st rounder next year. I think less of Ferguson than I do of Taylor at TE. Rams also just gave Parkinson a big deal and still have Higbee. Josiah Stewart makes for a solid 3rd EDGE, and I think Chris Paul is at least a top ST guy, and maybe a potential starter at LB, given how little talent they have there. But yeah, this team didn't get much of anything helping this year. Under addressed LB need and ignored CB issue.

32. Minnesota

Always was gonna be toward the bottom given the lack of picks, but oof. Donovan Jackson is a good (but not great) prospect with solid versatility, an ok 1st rounder. I literally don't think another player makes an impact. Also would have gone CB or J. Campbell in round 1, as there were better players at bigger needs in my opinion. Or traded out of round 1. They couldn't have gotten as much or more than the Texans or Rams got
 
@travdogg
Ramsey is gone
-Tobin on Youtube, Dolphin media guy for a while now posted up saying the relationship between HC and Ramsey is fractured
Cannot be repaired which is why Ramsey will not wear a Miami uniform again

 
I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need

Not arguing the grade, but respectfully...you're wrong about the highlighted.

Their DL is aging, thin, and very recently was seen surrendering about a bajillion rushing yards to anyone willing to just dare them to stop the run (which they couldn't do).

Their run defense has been on fumes for 5 years. It degraded a good deal when Hargraves left and cratered fully after Alualu injured his way out of town. They havent addressed DL early since they drafted Heyward, and none of their mid rounders have panned. DeMarvin Leal is a dead body walking. Lowdermilk/Lowry/Lee arent really NFL caliber contributors. Ogunjobi sucked and was cut. Benton looked okay as a rookie, but last year regressed.

I could go on, but won't. QB is a massive concern for them, but with this suspect class "Kenny Picketting" it again wasnt going to cut it. Shoring up their DL before Heyward decays into dust was/is incredibly important.
 
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20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

I disagree with C-. My take:

1 (22) - RB Hampton - Worst case scenario draft board for Chargers, with only 1 QB, 5 OL, and 1 RB going and LB Campbell not going before the Chargers pick. Hampton was their last player with a first round grade, so they took him when technical issues reportedly prevented a trade down from being completed with the Eagles. Ideally, I would not have wanted a RB here, but I understand it, given the situation. And the fact is, he fits the identity Harbaugh wants for this team.

You appear to give the Chargers a poor grade for Hampton without regard to the context. Disagree. I give this pick an A.

2 (55) - WR Harris - Should play mostly behind Williams (if/when healthy) this season but poised to be long term X WR. Excels against man coverage, which was a weakness for the Chargers except for Ladd last season; there came a point where opponents recognized this, and it was tough on Herbert. Williams and Harris will help overcome this challenge.

I understand your points on Harris, but I think he is better than you are giving him credit for. Not great, just saying I think he is a solid pick for this team given this team's needs. I give this pick a B-.

3 (86) - IDL Caldwell - Great pick given Chargers' needs and given they waited this long for IDL.

Completely disagree with your take on Caldwell. IMO he is the most talented IDL player on the Chargers right now and thus represents a quality upgrade. I give this pick a B.

4 (125) - Edge Kennard - Great pick given Chargers' needs and given they waited this long for Edge.

You didn't mention Kennard, who was a great value pick here. I give this pick an A-.

5 (158) - WR Lambert-Smith - Surprising pick that doesn't really make sense to me. Not sure he will make the final roster. I have seen it suggested that he was grossly underrated, but I'm not counting on it.

I give this pick a D.

5 (165) - TE Gadsden - When they traded up, I was certain it was to draft G Frazier and was disappointed to see it was for Gadsden. They do need a passing game TE of the future. I'm skeptical Gadsden is it and don't like the pick. My pick would have been Frazier.

I give this pick a C.

6 (199) - G Taylor - Will convert from tackle to guard, but seems like a reach to me. I assume he will make the final roster as the 9th OL since the team apparently likes him, and we know how much they value OL and specifically OTs playing across the OL. But I think he will generally be inactive on gameday unless due to injury. Hortiz and Harbaugh must have seen something in him they really liked, and they know OL.

I give this pick a D.

6 (214) - S R.J. Mickens - Great pick at this point in the draft.

I give this pick a B+.

7 (254) - CB Bridges - Looks like a reach but really just a priority UDFA at this point of the draft.

I give this pick a C. I mean it's almost Mr. Irrelevant, how hard should we grade it?

My issues with this draft are with drafting Lambert-Smith, Taylor, and, to a lesser degree, Gadsden. But they were 5th and 6th round picks. Expectations should not be particularly high in the first place.

I would probably give this draft a B.
 
20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

I disagree with C-. My take:

1 (22) - RB Hampton - Worst case scenario draft board for Chargers, with only 1 QB, 5 OL, and 1 RB going and LB Campbell not going before the Chargers pick. Hampton was their last player with a first round grade, so they took him when technical issues reportedly prevented a trade down from being completed with the Eagles. Ideally, I would not have wanted a RB here, but I understand it, given the situation. And the fact is, he fits the identity Harbaugh wants for this team.

You appear to give the Chargers a poor grade for Hampton without regard to the context. Disagree. I give this pick an A.

2 (55) - WR Harris - Should play mostly behind Williams (if/when healthy) this season but poised to be long term X WR. Excels against man coverage, which was a weakness for the Chargers except for Ladd last season; there came a point where opponents recognized this, and it was tough on Herbert. Williams and Harris will help overcome this challenge.

I understand your points on Harris, but I think he is better than you are giving him credit for. Not great, just saying I think he is a solid pick for this team given this team's needs. I give this pick a B-.

3 (86) - IDL Caldwell - Great pick given Chargers' needs and given they waited this long for IDL.

Completely disagree with your take on Caldwell. IMO he is the most talented IDL player on the Chargers right now and thus represents a quality upgrade. I give this pick a B.

4 (125) - Edge Kennard - Great pick given Chargers' needs and given they waited this long for Edge.

You didn't mention Kennard, who was a great value pick here. I give this pick an A-.

5 (158) - WR Lambert-Smith - Surprising pick that doesn't really make sense to me. Not sure he will make the final roster. I have seen it suggested that he was grossly underrated, but I'm not counting on it.

I give this pick a D.

5 (165) - TE Gadsden - When they traded up, I was certain it was to draft G Frazier and was disappointed to see it was for Gadsden. They do need a passing game TE of the future. I'm skeptical Gadsden is it and don't like the pick. My pick would have been Frazier.

I give this pick a C.

6 (199) - G Taylor - Will convert from tackle to guard, but seems like a reach to me. I assume he will make the final roster as the 9th OL since the team apparently likes him, and we know how much they value OL and specifically OTs playing across the OL. But I think he will generally be inactive on gameday unless due to injury. Hortiz and Harbaugh must have seen something in him they really liked, and they know OL.

I give this pick a D.

6 (214) - S R.J. Mickens - Great pick at this point in the draft.

I give this pick a B+.

7 (254) - CB Bridges - Looks like a reach but really just a priority UDFA at this point of the draft.

I give this pick a C. I mean it's almost Mr. Irrelevant, how hard should we grade it?

My issues with this draft are with drafting Lambert-Smith, Taylor, and, to a lesser degree, Gadsden. But they were 5th and 6th round picks. Expectations should not be particularly high in the first place.

I would probably give this draft a B.
I mentioned Kennard, I said I thought he'd be a good 3rd EDGE.

My context form the Hampton pick is I don't see him as significantly better than RBs who went in round 4, and I thought Najee was fine.

In hindsight, I would have wanted to switch the order of players taken. Take Golden in round 1, DT in round 2, and then a RB (Skattebo?) in round 3, and I'd have liked that draft better.
 
I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need

Not arguing the grade, but respectfully...you're wrong about the highlighted.

Their DL is aging, thin, and very recently was seen surrendering about a bajillion rushing yards to anyone willing to just dare them to stop the run (which they couldn't do).

Their run defense has been on fumes for 5 years. It degraded a good deal when Hargraves left and cratered fully after Alualu injured his way out of town. They havent addressed DL early since they drafted Heyward, and none of their mid rounders have panned. DeMarvin Leal is a dead body walking. Lowdermilk/Lowry/Lee arent really NFL caliber contributors. Ogunjobi sucked and was cut. Benton looked okay as a rookie, but last year regressed.

I could go on, but won't. QB is a massive concern for them, but with this suspect class "Kenny Picketting" it again wasnt going to cut it. Shoring up their DL before Heyward decays into dust was/is incredibly important.

I think the Steelers should have taken a shot with Sanders in the 4th. He was good value there, and that kind of draft capital wouldn't have prevented them from signing a QB or drafting one in the future.
 
20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

I disagree with C-. My take:

1 (22) - RB Hampton - Worst case scenario draft board for Chargers, with only 1 QB, 5 OL, and 1 RB going and LB Campbell not going before the Chargers pick. Hampton was their last player with a first round grade, so they took him when technical issues reportedly prevented a trade down from being completed with the Eagles. Ideally, I would not have wanted a RB here, but I understand it, given the situation. And the fact is, he fits the identity Harbaugh wants for this team.

You appear to give the Chargers a poor grade for Hampton without regard to the context. Disagree. I give this pick an A.

2 (55) - WR Harris - Should play mostly behind Williams (if/when healthy) this season but poised to be long term X WR. Excels against man coverage, which was a weakness for the Chargers except for Ladd last season; there came a point where opponents recognized this, and it was tough on Herbert. Williams and Harris will help overcome this challenge.

I understand your points on Harris, but I think he is better than you are giving him credit for. Not great, just saying I think he is a solid pick for this team given this team's needs. I give this pick a B-.

3 (86) - IDL Caldwell - Great pick given Chargers' needs and given they waited this long for IDL.

Completely disagree with your take on Caldwell. IMO he is the most talented IDL player on the Chargers right now and thus represents a quality upgrade. I give this pick a B.

4 (125) - Edge Kennard - Great pick given Chargers' needs and given they waited this long for Edge.

You didn't mention Kennard, who was a great value pick here. I give this pick an A-.

5 (158) - WR Lambert-Smith - Surprising pick that doesn't really make sense to me. Not sure he will make the final roster. I have seen it suggested that he was grossly underrated, but I'm not counting on it.

I give this pick a D.

5 (165) - TE Gadsden - When they traded up, I was certain it was to draft G Frazier and was disappointed to see it was for Gadsden. They do need a passing game TE of the future. I'm skeptical Gadsden is it and don't like the pick. My pick would have been Frazier.

I give this pick a C.

6 (199) - G Taylor - Will convert from tackle to guard, but seems like a reach to me. I assume he will make the final roster as the 9th OL since the team apparently likes him, and we know how much they value OL and specifically OTs playing across the OL. But I think he will generally be inactive on gameday unless due to injury. Hortiz and Harbaugh must have seen something in him they really liked, and they know OL.

I give this pick a D.

6 (214) - S R.J. Mickens - Great pick at this point in the draft.

I give this pick a B+.

7 (254) - CB Bridges - Looks like a reach but really just a priority UDFA at this point of the draft.

I give this pick a C. I mean it's almost Mr. Irrelevant, how hard should we grade it?

My issues with this draft are with drafting Lambert-Smith, Taylor, and, to a lesser degree, Gadsden. But they were 5th and 6th round picks. Expectations should not be particularly high in the first place.

I would probably give this draft a B.
Great write up, agree with some of your analysis
Thanks for taking the time to do this
 
Miami graded out low on many websites and to be fair there were others that had them close to a "B"
Lot of media that follow the team on a more day in day out basis said it was hard to argue against Grant in the 1st
Many felt they needed to address the OL so they agree with the 2nd Rd pick but what they fail to acknowledge is Grier could have done something more like this...

1. Jahdae Barron CB Texas
2. Darius Alexander DT Toledo
3. Charles Grant OT/OL Wm and Mary...he went at 99 so he was there at 98 for them but they traded up
4. Jack Sawyer, Edge OSU
4. Malachi Moore, S Alabama

This would have addressed 2 positions of real need in the Secondary, starting IDL and Grant is just as able to succeed at LG as the guy Miami took at 37

I wouldn't give Grier much more than a "C" since Miami only had 2 picks in the Top 115, didn't pick after 37 until the 4th round
Kinda disappointing they didn't manufacture more picks in the Top 100
 
I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need

Not arguing the grade, but respectfully...you're wrong about the highlighted.

Their DL is aging, thin, and very recently was seen surrendering about a bajillion rushing yards to anyone willing to just dare them to stop the run (which they couldn't do).

Their run defense has been on fumes for 5 years. It degraded a good deal when Hargraves left and cratered fully after Alualu injured his way out of town. They havent addressed DL early since they drafted Heyward, and none of their mid rounders have panned. DeMarvin Leal is a dead body walking. Lowdermilk/Lowry/Lee arent really NFL caliber contributors. Ogunjobi sucked and was cut. Benton looked okay as a rookie, but last year regressed.

I could go on, but won't. QB is a massive concern for them, but with this suspect class "Kenny Picketting" it again wasnt going to cut it. Shoring up their DL before Heyward decays into dust was/is incredibly important.

I think the Steelers should have taken a shot with Sanders in the 4th. He was good value there, and that kind of draft capital wouldn't have prevented them from signing a QB or drafting one in the future.

Logically, it'd have made sense. The "expected nonsense" that comes attached likely wouldn't have been worth it in the long run.

If I had to speculate, I'd wager Art II dictated he was a hard pass.
 
D
C-

19. Philadelphia

Jihaad Campbell could pair with Baun as the best LB combo in the NFL. I also think Makuba could potentially start at FS, despite his size. I think Cameron Williams is an interesting OT project.

20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

D+

21. Denver

Barron was a great pick, he and Surtain could end up being the best CB duo in the NFL. After that though...RJ Harvey strikes me as a good 3rd down/COP RB. Not a difference maker. Pat Bryant is a big nothing pick to me. Be shocked if he was ever a top-3 WR.

22. Cincinnati

I can live with the Stewart pick, though I'm not a big fan of traits guys who had no production. I liked the Knight pick in round 2, he's older sure, but he's gonna be a solid starter for years to come. Fairchild going on day 2 made my head hurt, I thought he was Georgia's worst OL. I doubt he wins a starting job even on a needy OL.

D

23. San Francisco

I think SF was right identifying their holes, but I think made some bad picks. Williams was a big reach in my mind. I get that's where a toolsy 20-year-old starter from Georgia goes, but I don't have to like it, because I think he's a project.I like West slightly more than Collins at DT but probably would have switched the order and taken DT then EDGE given their neediness. 1 great DT (Nolen? Grant?) would help more than 2 ok ones. I literally didn't know who Martin or Stout were.

24. Houston

I'm fine with where Higgins and Noel went, I just think taking both was overkill. WR is deep for them at least with Metchie suddenly on the roster bubble. Ersery was a reach in my opinion, despite being a 23-year-old I think he's a bit raw. Thought trading down from #25 was a bad call, missing out on the Joshes at OT. Felt OL was a much bigger need than WR. I don't see Smith as anything more than a ST guy.

25. Jacksonville

I think Travis Hunter was the best player in this class. Huge fan of the guy. But man, they gave up a lot, including next year's #1. Probably wouldn't be so bad, but I'm not sure they got much else. I think Ransaw is a ST guy, and Milum feels like a utility OL. Based on interviews with GM/HC it sounds like Hunter will be a full time WR who plays some CB. I think the reverse would be more helpful, but whatever.

26. Pittsburgh

I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need. QB/RB/OL/CB were all much bigger. Kaleb Johnson likely slips right into Najee's role as lead RB who gives up touches to Warren. Might have preferred Hampton in round 1, and DL (West?) in round 3. I think Jack Sawyer is a nice depth piece, but its not like that was an issue, with Herbig around. Feels like OL/CB are just gonna continue being issues. I'm assuming Rodgers shows up, but if not, this is the worst QB room in the NFL.

D-

27. Miami

I like Kenneth Grant, and DT was a big need, maybe not the ideal pick, but not bad at all. I'm not a Savaainaea guy. I think he's more a utility OL. That's better than Eichenberg sure, but that doesn't make it a good pick. I like Jordan Phillips as a rotational DT. Run D should at least be fixed. Ignoring Safety was a choice given they arguably are the worst team in the NFL there. Secondary could be a massive issue if they deal Ramsey, though maybe that's not happening anymore.

28. Detroit

This was setting up as a boring meat and potatoes draft and then it went off the rails. I think Tyleik Williams is a good prospect, maybe not 1st round good, but solid starter good. I find Tate Ratledge is fine, but not sure he's a starter as a rookie. I liked Mahogany, and didn't think OL was a pressing need. TeSlaa was just burning a pick in my opinion. Not a fan of combine warriors with no production on day 2. Doubt he even challenges Raymond or Patrick. Very surprised they didn't touch EDGE, with Hitch coming off an ACL and Davenport currently pegged as the other starter.

F

29. New Orleans

I like Kelvin Banks, though I do wonder if he sticks at LT, they needed OL help badly. Broughton is an ok round 3 pick as a rotational DL, again a big need. Jonas Sanker made no sense to me at all, both how high he went, and NO taking a Safety when its their strongest position on the team. I don't get Tyler Shough at all. I thought he was a huge reach, and I think they'll regret passing on better QB prospects (especially Sanders, not to sound like Kiper) he's old, he's fragile, he plays scared. I would have rather gone with Rattler/vet if Carr is out all year, and reassessed next year if they weren't going Sanders, or at least even Milroe.

30. Green Bay

Matthew Golden was absolutely the right pick if they weren't going DL. I think he'll have little trouble ascending to #1 WR on what I feel is a pretty overrated WR room. After that they may as well have just gone home, except since the draft was in GB they already were. Belton was a huge reach in my eyes as a developmental OT in round 2 doesn't help much right now. Savion Williams feels like burning a pick. They don't need a returner, they don't need a gadget guy. Where's he playing? CB/DL got ignored despite being needs. They desperately need Wyatt and Van Ness to play to their draft positions. Little reason to think that happens. What's Alexander's status?

31. LA Rams

I like that they got the Falcons 1st rounder next year. I think less of Ferguson than I do of Taylor at TE. Rams also just gave Parkinson a big deal and still have Higbee. Josiah Stewart makes for a solid 3rd EDGE, and I think Chris Paul is at least a top ST guy, and maybe a potential starter at LB, given how little talent they have there. But yeah, this team didn't get much of anything helping this year. Under addressed LB need and ignored CB issue.

32. Minnesota

Always was gonna be toward the bottom given the lack of picks, but oof. Donovan Jackson is a good (but not great) prospect with solid versatility, an ok 1st rounder. I literally don't think another player makes an impact. Also would have gone CB or J. Campbell in round 1, as there were better players at bigger needs in my opinion. Or traded out of round 1. They couldn't have gotten as much or more than the Texans or Rams got
Damn you're a tough grader! I do hate when sites give out nothing but As and Bs, but this seems an EXTREME over correction.

PFF this year gave 3 teams a grade lower than a B... you gave 22 teams a grade lower than a B!

Is there a reason for this? Seems crazy to me giving over 56% of the NFL teams a C or lower grade.
 
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C grades or lower by popular site:

PFF: 3 teams
CBS Trapasso: 1 team
CBS Prisco: 4 teams
SI: 5 teams
Fox: 4 teams
ESPN Kiper: 2 teams
Yahoo: 4 teams
@travdogg : 18 teams :ponder:
 
D
C-

19. Philadelphia

Jihaad Campbell could pair with Baun as the best LB combo in the NFL. I also think Makuba could potentially start at FS, despite his size. I think Cameron Williams is an interesting OT project.

20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

D+

21. Denver

Barron was a great pick, he and Surtain could end up being the best CB duo in the NFL. After that though...RJ Harvey strikes me as a good 3rd down/COP RB. Not a difference maker. Pat Bryant is a big nothing pick to me. Be shocked if he was ever a top-3 WR.

22. Cincinnati

I can live with the Stewart pick, though I'm not a big fan of traits guys who had no production. I liked the Knight pick in round 2, he's older sure, but he's gonna be a solid starter for years to come. Fairchild going on day 2 made my head hurt, I thought he was Georgia's worst OL. I doubt he wins a starting job even on a needy OL.

D

23. San Francisco

I think SF was right identifying their holes, but I think made some bad picks. Williams was a big reach in my mind. I get that's where a toolsy 20-year-old starter from Georgia goes, but I don't have to like it, because I think he's a project.I like West slightly more than Collins at DT but probably would have switched the order and taken DT then EDGE given their neediness. 1 great DT (Nolen? Grant?) would help more than 2 ok ones. I literally didn't know who Martin or Stout were.

24. Houston

I'm fine with where Higgins and Noel went, I just think taking both was overkill. WR is deep for them at least with Metchie suddenly on the roster bubble. Ersery was a reach in my opinion, despite being a 23-year-old I think he's a bit raw. Thought trading down from #25 was a bad call, missing out on the Joshes at OT. Felt OL was a much bigger need than WR. I don't see Smith as anything more than a ST guy.

25. Jacksonville

I think Travis Hunter was the best player in this class. Huge fan of the guy. But man, they gave up a lot, including next year's #1. Probably wouldn't be so bad, but I'm not sure they got much else. I think Ransaw is a ST guy, and Milum feels like a utility OL. Based on interviews with GM/HC it sounds like Hunter will be a full time WR who plays some CB. I think the reverse would be more helpful, but whatever.

26. Pittsburgh

I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need. QB/RB/OL/CB were all much bigger. Kaleb Johnson likely slips right into Najee's role as lead RB who gives up touches to Warren. Might have preferred Hampton in round 1, and DL (West?) in round 3. I think Jack Sawyer is a nice depth piece, but its not like that was an issue, with Herbig around. Feels like OL/CB are just gonna continue being issues. I'm assuming Rodgers shows up, but if not, this is the worst QB room in the NFL.

D-

27. Miami

I like Kenneth Grant, and DT was a big need, maybe not the ideal pick, but not bad at all. I'm not a Savaainaea guy. I think he's more a utility OL. That's better than Eichenberg sure, but that doesn't make it a good pick. I like Jordan Phillips as a rotational DT. Run D should at least be fixed. Ignoring Safety was a choice given they arguably are the worst team in the NFL there. Secondary could be a massive issue if they deal Ramsey, though maybe that's not happening anymore.

28. Detroit

This was setting up as a boring meat and potatoes draft and then it went off the rails. I think Tyleik Williams is a good prospect, maybe not 1st round good, but solid starter good. I find Tate Ratledge is fine, but not sure he's a starter as a rookie. I liked Mahogany, and didn't think OL was a pressing need. TeSlaa was just burning a pick in my opinion. Not a fan of combine warriors with no production on day 2. Doubt he even challenges Raymond or Patrick. Very surprised they didn't touch EDGE, with Hitch coming off an ACL and Davenport currently pegged as the other starter.

F

29. New Orleans

I like Kelvin Banks, though I do wonder if he sticks at LT, they needed OL help badly. Broughton is an ok round 3 pick as a rotational DL, again a big need. Jonas Sanker made no sense to me at all, both how high he went, and NO taking a Safety when its their strongest position on the team. I don't get Tyler Shough at all. I thought he was a huge reach, and I think they'll regret passing on better QB prospects (especially Sanders, not to sound like Kiper) he's old, he's fragile, he plays scared. I would have rather gone with Rattler/vet if Carr is out all year, and reassessed next year if they weren't going Sanders, or at least even Milroe.

30. Green Bay

Matthew Golden was absolutely the right pick if they weren't going DL. I think he'll have little trouble ascending to #1 WR on what I feel is a pretty overrated WR room. After that they may as well have just gone home, except since the draft was in GB they already were. Belton was a huge reach in my eyes as a developmental OT in round 2 doesn't help much right now. Savion Williams feels like burning a pick. They don't need a returner, they don't need a gadget guy. Where's he playing? CB/DL got ignored despite being needs. They desperately need Wyatt and Van Ness to play to their draft positions. Little reason to think that happens. What's Alexander's status?

31. LA Rams

I like that they got the Falcons 1st rounder next year. I think less of Ferguson than I do of Taylor at TE. Rams also just gave Parkinson a big deal and still have Higbee. Josiah Stewart makes for a solid 3rd EDGE, and I think Chris Paul is at least a top ST guy, and maybe a potential starter at LB, given how little talent they have there. But yeah, this team didn't get much of anything helping this year. Under addressed LB need and ignored CB issue.

32. Minnesota

Always was gonna be toward the bottom given the lack of picks, but oof. Donovan Jackson is a good (but not great) prospect with solid versatility, an ok 1st rounder. I literally don't think another player makes an impact. Also would have gone CB or J. Campbell in round 1, as there were better players at bigger needs in my opinion. Or traded out of round 1. They couldn't have gotten as much or more than the Texans or Rams got
Damn you're a tough grader! I do hate when sites give out nothing but As and Bs, but this seems an EXTREME over correction.

PFF this year gave 3 teams a grade lower than a B... you gave 22 teams a grade lower than a B!

Is there a reason for this? Seems crazy to me giving 53% or the NFL teams a C or lower grade.
I believe in curve grading. Therefore, if there are 32 teams, 16th is a C. I think it makes more sense grading the drafts against each other, not just "did this team get better?" Because its basically impossible to get worse.
 
Given another day to think about it, I think I'd move the Titans ahead of NE, and Seattle up to the B range around Las Vegas. I was probably not giving enough value for Milroe potentially being the long-term QB, and as much as I loved NE's draft, they didn't get anyone who helps as much as Ward could.
 
D
C-

19. Philadelphia

Jihaad Campbell could pair with Baun as the best LB combo in the NFL. I also think Makuba could potentially start at FS, despite his size. I think Cameron Williams is an interesting OT project.

20. LA Chargers

I like Omarion Hampton, though I question whether that was a good use of resources. He's better than Najee at least. I'm not a Harris guy at all, I think he's a raw route runner and isn't as explosive as his highlights suggest. Basically Johnston but behind in development. Kennard is a nice 3rd EDGE. I think Caldwell was a wasted pick, just don't think he's more than mediocre depth.

D+

21. Denver

Barron was a great pick, he and Surtain could end up being the best CB duo in the NFL. After that though...RJ Harvey strikes me as a good 3rd down/COP RB. Not a difference maker. Pat Bryant is a big nothing pick to me. Be shocked if he was ever a top-3 WR.

22. Cincinnati

I can live with the Stewart pick, though I'm not a big fan of traits guys who had no production. I liked the Knight pick in round 2, he's older sure, but he's gonna be a solid starter for years to come. Fairchild going on day 2 made my head hurt, I thought he was Georgia's worst OL. I doubt he wins a starting job even on a needy OL.

D

23. San Francisco

I think SF was right identifying their holes, but I think made some bad picks. Williams was a big reach in my mind. I get that's where a toolsy 20-year-old starter from Georgia goes, but I don't have to like it, because I think he's a project.I like West slightly more than Collins at DT but probably would have switched the order and taken DT then EDGE given their neediness. 1 great DT (Nolen? Grant?) would help more than 2 ok ones. I literally didn't know who Martin or Stout were.

24. Houston

I'm fine with where Higgins and Noel went, I just think taking both was overkill. WR is deep for them at least with Metchie suddenly on the roster bubble. Ersery was a reach in my opinion, despite being a 23-year-old I think he's a bit raw. Thought trading down from #25 was a bad call, missing out on the Joshes at OT. Felt OL was a much bigger need than WR. I don't see Smith as anything more than a ST guy.

25. Jacksonville

I think Travis Hunter was the best player in this class. Huge fan of the guy. But man, they gave up a lot, including next year's #1. Probably wouldn't be so bad, but I'm not sure they got much else. I think Ransaw is a ST guy, and Milum feels like a utility OL. Based on interviews with GM/HC it sounds like Hunter will be a full time WR who plays some CB. I think the reverse would be more helpful, but whatever.

26. Pittsburgh

I like Derrick Harmon as a prospect, but I really don't think DL was anywhere near that big a need. QB/RB/OL/CB were all much bigger. Kaleb Johnson likely slips right into Najee's role as lead RB who gives up touches to Warren. Might have preferred Hampton in round 1, and DL (West?) in round 3. I think Jack Sawyer is a nice depth piece, but its not like that was an issue, with Herbig around. Feels like OL/CB are just gonna continue being issues. I'm assuming Rodgers shows up, but if not, this is the worst QB room in the NFL.

D-

27. Miami

I like Kenneth Grant, and DT was a big need, maybe not the ideal pick, but not bad at all. I'm not a Savaainaea guy. I think he's more a utility OL. That's better than Eichenberg sure, but that doesn't make it a good pick. I like Jordan Phillips as a rotational DT. Run D should at least be fixed. Ignoring Safety was a choice given they arguably are the worst team in the NFL there. Secondary could be a massive issue if they deal Ramsey, though maybe that's not happening anymore.

28. Detroit

This was setting up as a boring meat and potatoes draft and then it went off the rails. I think Tyleik Williams is a good prospect, maybe not 1st round good, but solid starter good. I find Tate Ratledge is fine, but not sure he's a starter as a rookie. I liked Mahogany, and didn't think OL was a pressing need. TeSlaa was just burning a pick in my opinion. Not a fan of combine warriors with no production on day 2. Doubt he even challenges Raymond or Patrick. Very surprised they didn't touch EDGE, with Hitch coming off an ACL and Davenport currently pegged as the other starter.

F

29. New Orleans

I like Kelvin Banks, though I do wonder if he sticks at LT, they needed OL help badly. Broughton is an ok round 3 pick as a rotational DL, again a big need. Jonas Sanker made no sense to me at all, both how high he went, and NO taking a Safety when its their strongest position on the team. I don't get Tyler Shough at all. I thought he was a huge reach, and I think they'll regret passing on better QB prospects (especially Sanders, not to sound like Kiper) he's old, he's fragile, he plays scared. I would have rather gone with Rattler/vet if Carr is out all year, and reassessed next year if they weren't going Sanders, or at least even Milroe.

30. Green Bay

Matthew Golden was absolutely the right pick if they weren't going DL. I think he'll have little trouble ascending to #1 WR on what I feel is a pretty overrated WR room. After that they may as well have just gone home, except since the draft was in GB they already were. Belton was a huge reach in my eyes as a developmental OT in round 2 doesn't help much right now. Savion Williams feels like burning a pick. They don't need a returner, they don't need a gadget guy. Where's he playing? CB/DL got ignored despite being needs. They desperately need Wyatt and Van Ness to play to their draft positions. Little reason to think that happens. What's Alexander's status?

31. LA Rams

I like that they got the Falcons 1st rounder next year. I think less of Ferguson than I do of Taylor at TE. Rams also just gave Parkinson a big deal and still have Higbee. Josiah Stewart makes for a solid 3rd EDGE, and I think Chris Paul is at least a top ST guy, and maybe a potential starter at LB, given how little talent they have there. But yeah, this team didn't get much of anything helping this year. Under addressed LB need and ignored CB issue.

32. Minnesota

Always was gonna be toward the bottom given the lack of picks, but oof. Donovan Jackson is a good (but not great) prospect with solid versatility, an ok 1st rounder. I literally don't think another player makes an impact. Also would have gone CB or J. Campbell in round 1, as there were better players at bigger needs in my opinion. Or traded out of round 1. They couldn't have gotten as much or more than the Texans or Rams got
Damn you're a tough grader! I do hate when sites give out nothing but As and Bs, but this seems an EXTREME over correction.

PFF this year gave 3 teams a grade lower than a B... you gave 22 teams a grade lower than a B!

Is there a reason for this? Seems crazy to me giving over 56% of the NFL teams a C or lower grade.

Grading is subjective. Maybe @travdogg is more realistic than those other sites.
 
32. Minnesota

Always was gonna be toward the bottom given the lack of picks, but oof. Donovan Jackson is a good (but not great) prospect with solid versatility, an ok 1st rounder. I literally don't think another player makes an impact. Also would have gone CB or J. Campbell in round 1, as there were better players at bigger needs in my opinion. Or traded out of round 1. They couldn't have gotten as much or more than the Texans or Rams got

Kwesi, you've really outdone yourself this time.


Yeah, can't say I was blown away, but not based on any special intel or research. A lot of fantasy WRs I would have preferred in round 3, but maybe Felton fills a role. I think there was a desire to move down in the 1st and add picks, but compelling offers to jump back into the late 1st just weren't there for the distribution of this year's talent pool.
 

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